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Mex17 Dec 10 2016 01:06 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Dec 10 2016 05:29 PM

Assuming that the Bruce trade happens and it is for a controllable righty for the bullpen with a live arm who has at least one year of success on the major league level and multiple years left of team control, My next move would be to go against the Alderson "book" and offer 3 years/$18 million to Blevins. I know and have heard everything that they have been saying about them experiencing more success with regard to rounding out the bullpen by going with shorter term deals later in the winter or into the season as opposed to multi-year deals, but I think that the difference is that Blevins has already been on this team, so that might make his case different from those of, say, D.J. Carrasco and Antonio Bastardo. They know him already, they know his working habits and they know how he fits on the team and in the clubhouse. That can make the three year commitment worth the risk, and $6 million a season for a lefty who can get both leftys and rightys out should not be a back breaker. I am also warming up to the idea of letting Gsellman be the fifth starter and letting Lugo and Wheeler pitch out of the pen. Lugo has experience doing it already whereas Gsellman has not, and Wheeler in the pen reduces the innings that he will pitch coming off a two-year Tommy John surgery rehab. Who knows, maybe Wheeler turns out to be the Isringhausen of this bunch (ie, the vaunted rotation prospect who winds up having a long and productive Major League career out of the bullpen instead). With all that in mind, I think that the primary 2017 bullpen could end up like this (notwithstanding any sort of Familia suspension). . . Familia Reed Blevins Robles Lugo Wheeler Guy that they get for Bruce who fits the above referenced description Then, in reserve, are the likes of Edgin, Smoker, Goeddel, Montero, Ynoa, Gilmartin, Sewald, and any veterans that they can bring in on minor league contracts.

Lefty Specialist Dec 10 2016 01:44 PM Re: Bullpen

I like Blevins, but there's no way I give him 3 yrs/$18 million. If he gets it somewhere else, Mazel Tov.

Centerfield Dec 10 2016 02:21 PM Re: Bullpen

Certainly understand the apprehension. But we have Harper, Murphy, FFF in the division. We need someone better than Josh Smoker.

Edgy MD Dec 10 2016 02:35 PM Re: Bullpen

Edgin is well out of opdgins, so he's ahead of Smoker in line, at least for now. Erik Goeddel is currently sticking pins in a voodoo doll that looks suspiciously like Mex.

Frayed Knot Dec 10 2016 03:09 PM Re: Bullpen

As mentioned in the 'Off-Season' thread, LHR Brett Cecil recently signed a 4 year $30.5 mil deal with StL so it's a pretty nice era in which to be a slinging southpaw. Now Cecil is nearly three years younger than Blevins but their recent stats are mostly comparable or even favoring Blevins in some spots. Looking just at 2012-2016 (which, for Blevins, includes his mostly empty 2015 season): Cecil = 264 appearances (includes 9 starts), 3.55 ERA, 1.25 WHiP, 266 IP, 10.5 K/9, 3.2 BB/9 Blevins = 274 appearances (no starts), 3.25 ERA, 1.12 WHIP, 229 IP, 8.9 K/9, 3.1 BB/9 Yeah you'd prefer to hold a deal to two years rather than three, but the per year estimates are probably in the neighborhood and a durable guy other than in 2015 (60+ games five different times) who'll just be turning 35 at the tail end of a two-year deal (or 36 in Sept of a three-year) isn't an unreasonable chance ... unless they're a bit gun-shy after coming up snake-eyes by going 2 x $6 on Bastardo

Mex17 Dec 10 2016 03:35 PM Re: Bullpen

Frayed Knot wrote: who'll just be turning 35 at the tail end of a two-year deal (or 36 in Sept of a three-year) So the 2nd year of the deal would count as his "age 34" season and the 3rd would be the "age 35" season.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Dec 12 2016 05:56 AM Re: Bullpen

You know that the guy we sign/acquire/promote to get lefties out doesn't actually have to BE a lefty, right? (Terry might need a briefing on this, as well.) Multiple years to a reliever isn't as nettlesome to me as multiple years to a LOOGY. I'd rather give that money, if necessary, to someone like Neftali Feliz, who's younger, just as good against lefties, and nowhere near as, um, kittenish against righties. Hell, at least someone like Travis Wood can get out lefties AND start in a pinch.

Edgy MD Dec 12 2016 01:32 PM Re: Bullpen

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: You know that the guy we sign/acquire/promote to get lefties out doesn't actually have to BE a lefty, right? (Terry might need a briefing on this, as well.) The team got virtually all the way through the pennant-winning year of 2015 without an effective LOOGy (apart from five innings from Blevins and 11.2 from Leathersich), so I'm certain they know how to play that game. It seems to me they've had sone success finding potential LOOGy-ness in guys who are just floating around, failing at bigger roles, waiting to blossom in the smallest role of them all. Over-committing to such characters as Brett Cecil seems folly.

Frayed Knot Dec 12 2016 01:32 PM Re: Bullpen

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Hell, at least someone like Travis Wood can get out lefties AND start in a pinch. Not to mention pinch-hit (9 HRs in 280 career ABs) or play you an occasional corner OF (Maddon used him in LF three times in 2016 for a total of 5 innings).

MFS62 Dec 12 2016 02:10 PM Re: Bullpen

According to the news over the weekend, Familia will be pitching winter league ball this off-season. Later

Centerfield Dec 12 2016 02:15 PM Re: Bullpen

Edgy MD wrote: It seems to me they've had sone success finding potential LOOGy-ness in guys who are just floating around, failing at bigger roles, waiting to blossom in the smallest role of them all. Over-committing to such characters as Brett Cecil seems folly. Yeah, I'd be happy to find a guy who is kinda struggling as a starter sign on and blossom as a LOOGY. This is one of my favorite story lines. Right up there with HS nerd-girl is forced to tutor good looking jock, who eventually falls for her and then she has a makeover and ends up looking amazing at the homecoming dance at the end of the movie.

Benjamin Grimm Dec 12 2016 02:39 PM Re: Bullpen

From what I've learned from TV and movies, the "makeover" simply requires taking off your glasses and letting down your hair.

MFS62 Dec 13 2016 01:35 AM Re: Bullpen

Benjamin Grimm wrote: From what I've learned from TV and movies, the "makeover" simply requires taking off your glasses and letting down your hair. And sometimes your neckline. Later

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Dec 15 2016 04:22 AM Re: Bullpen Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Dec 15 2016 05:23 AM

Other options: STRIKEOUT-Y SETUP-Y GUYS (in rough order of preference): Sergio Romo* Junichi Tazawa Santiago Casilla* Feliz Greg Holland** David Hernandez NOT-SO-STRIKEOUT-Y SETUP-Y OPTIONS: Drew Storen** Casey Janssen** Salas Fernando Rodriguez Yusmeiro Petit Joba Chamberlain LOOGY (or LOOGY-plus) OPTIONS: J.P. Howell Brian Matusz Blevins Boone Logan Mike Dunn Javier Lopez Tim Collins *Recent, successful "closer experience" might price us out of these guys. ** But not so much these guys, because they're coming off of injuries/down years/velocity loss. Am I missing anyone else interesting?

Edgy MD Dec 15 2016 04:50 AM Re: Bullpen

Closers shmosers.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Dec 15 2016 04:52 AM Re: Bullpen

I just mention it in terms of affecting our likelihood to bring 'em in.

Edgy MD Dec 15 2016 04:55 AM Re: Bullpen

Anyhow, some Tigers guy is proposing Justin Wilson and Mike Pelfrey for Curtis Granderson, and ... I'm gonna take a pass.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Dec 15 2016 05:08 AM Re: Bullpen

Wilson's interesting. Not Granderson interesting, but still. Who's this Palfrey fellow, though?

A Boy Named Seo Dec 15 2016 05:15 AM Re: Bullpen

What a nice, long, money-filled career "Big Pelf" made for himself. Also, keep that man the hell away from this team.

Frayed Knot Dec 15 2016 01:54 PM Re: Bullpen

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Am I missing anyone else interesting? Brad Ziegler is now 37 but is a FA, is coming off a decent year (split between ARZ & BOS) and had that 'Gen-U-Wine Closer Material' stamp on his head only recently (52 saves in 2015-16) Probably wants a two-year deal somewhere but that doesn't mean he'll get one.

Frayed Knot Dec 15 2016 06:17 PM Re: Bullpen

LOOGY (or LOOGY-plus) OPTIONS: J.P. Howell Brian Matusz Blevins Boone Logan Mike Dunn Javier Lopez Tim Collins Cross Dunn off the list, he goes to the Rockies for 3 years/$19 mil

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Dec 16 2016 01:23 AM Re: Bullpen

3 years, 6-plus per. For THAT. Yeah, Blevins isn't coming back. THANKS FOR RUINING THE MARKET, ROCKIES.

Frayed Knot Dec 16 2016 01:35 AM Re: Bullpen

Well, I suppose the Rox could say that if Brett Cecil is getting nearly $8 x 4 then $6+ x 3 is merely the next level down. Meanwhile on the Righty side, Junichi Tazawa goes to the Marlins on a two-year deal at $6 per.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Dec 16 2016 07:06 PM Re: Bullpen

Damn. See, 6-per for Blevins is a little tough to swallow, but for Tazawa (consistent 9K/2ishBB-plus-per-9, with seemingly fluky BABIP/HR-per-fly rates the last two years deflating his price a bunch)... that's not nearly as spicy a meat-a-ball.

Frayed Knot Dec 17 2016 01:45 PM Re: Bullpen

And now Brad Ziegler to the Marlins at an unconfirmed 2 x $8

Edgy MD Dec 17 2016 01:58 PM Re: Bullpen

Here's hoping our bargain basement sub-mariner Rowen out-Zieglers Ziegler.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 17 2016 06:05 PM Re: Bullpen

Sergio Romo is out there still. I think he'd be an interesting addition, closer experience, colorful look, he'll be 34 next season and had a few elbow issues but appeared to have recovered from them by year-end and pitched pretty well. Not a bad K man, if we could get him on a Bastardoish kinda deal and role I like him for that. Fun Fact: I always assumed Romo was from Latin America but he's as American as Apple Pie, from Brawley, Calif. (birthplace of other relief pitchers of note: Sid Monge and Rudy Seanez and ex-Met Don Rowe)

Frayed Knot Dec 18 2016 04:14 AM Re: Bullpen

Romo lost his closer's job to Santiago Casilla a couple years back despite maintaining better peripheral numbers over the last two seasons and was actually pressed back into the closer role for a time in 2016 (finished 13 games, saved 4) while SF was having all kinds of trouble in the back end of games last season. Turns 34 during ST, he has the feel of a former closer who may thrive in a 7th inning type of role. Still going to want some kind of lefty out there at some point.

Zvon Dec 18 2016 06:20 AM Re: Bullpen

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: 3 years, 6-plus per. For THAT. Yeah, Blevins isn't coming back. THANKS FOR RUINING THE MARKET, ROCKIES. It's a vicious cycle. I used to like Ziegler, but 37..... Blevins, oy. Both deals are like:OUCH. Sergio Romo should have been a singer. [fimg=500]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/3fTD1XXbev653p-M6AeFggNhKRc4j3hC-gJtPeW8_wXt-jK7C5KRKuXrofHKW2OeYhqRp3-oqxtLWxmcjZ8v-OSJJQiWMckiX9juJdIdlG4SKwVTM-cJ9_46G6uhiewFb5qXtRIBQBX05RMFyUt3H8tL8gVmsrr8WgwIiLUhX3viUq-2ljMRzagxKjl7fDXnHJyAEnCYtbo0TCxzFHo8Z368yY5bZPN7JInYqJ6pzda9rUGBwzB-Hq5O5BejcxhmhI9z8w84-61IkX_tvxs3ZMR6XwmDxWiNxjs39YHg0eiH2ZqI8_YLLoVUSAcXVYAvova8WKLREnH_g3ayCDF4uOrhyF8ULoxD8ur2nH9rufMoFw_Xi-8Pv9XLTzLj5xzec2rawt-txaoe0vedZkY1nW1bs0DRzC8IWaiZVMzn6k2hEHKYxQ698dCxbzB0C-FZEV3rZk8Me2ZlG76OjPJLgCEPDRO68slpb0rlU9PsCfB3olkzB6S7mc95HDuUb-WnKzgWezEyXBLAh4eEjBomwEJe6EhEcpN5mQmRLRMZ3E59TuttwNWWI0d-Nk6XRWljXJtfEsrgj_NOpEN9DCa5qf1rzK22kFX7Q5auef4Jg-MESuRboFrNOA=w1400-h1392-no[/fimg]

Centerfield Dec 19 2016 07:04 PM Re: Bullpen

Frayed Knot wrote: Still going to want some kind of lefty out there at some point. Yeah. I have no idea who though. Maybe the Pirates will give us Bastardo back.

seawolf17 Dec 19 2016 08:41 PM Re: Bullpen

Centerfield wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: Still going to want some kind of lefty out there at some point. Yeah. I have no idea who though. Maybe the Pirates will give us Bastardo back. "You rang?"

themetfairy Dec 19 2016 08:50 PM Re: Bullpen

NO!!!!!!

Frayed Knot Dec 20 2016 01:04 AM Re: Bullpen

Even the likes of Daniel Hudson get a two-year deal this winter, jumping from the DBacks to the Pirates. That's one year for each of his Tommy John surgeries as some of you will remember that his story was one of those featured in 'THE ARM' earlier this year. Unfortunately he hasn't been all that good since returning from the second go-'round of TJS (4.68 ERA, 1.38 WHiP since 2014) but that's no reason to deny a guy 11 million dollars. And he's not even a lefty!!

Edgy MD Dec 20 2016 02:48 AM Re: Bullpen

I'm more than happy to see these commitments made by somebody else.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Dec 20 2016 03:13 AM Re: Bullpen

Other options: STRIKEOUT-Y SETUP-Y GUYS (in rough order of preference): Sergio Romo* Junichi Tazawa Santiago Casilla* Feliz Greg Holland** David Hernandez NOT-SO-STRIKEOUT-Y SETUP-Y OPTIONS: Drew Storen** Casey Janssen** Salas Fernando Rodriguez Yusmeiro Petit Joba Chamberlain LOOGY (or LOOGY-plus) OPTIONS: J.P. Howell Brian Matusz Blevins Boone Logan Mike Dunn Javier Lopez Tim Collins *Recent, successful "closer experience" might price us out of these guys. ** But not so much these guys, because they're coming off of injuries/down years/velocity loss. Am I missing anyone else interesting? Yes, yes I am. Someone familiar, no less: Joe Smith. Coming off an apparently-fluky down year himself (slightly high FB% coupled with an anomalously-yuuuuuge HR/FB rate), no less.

Ashie62 Dec 29 2016 03:19 AM Re: Bullpen

Rotoblurb says the market for 36 year old reliever Joe Blanton is "heating up." It seems to me I saw his name come up in context with the Mets some time ago. The guy is cheap, durable and rubberarmed.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 31 2016 03:44 PM Re: Bullpen

Mets reportedly thinking about asking out 32-year-old Jose Arredondo, ex-Angel, ex-Red reliever trying to come back (indy leagues and Venezuelan winter league) from prior arm trouble. Last pitched in MLB in 2012! Killer split-finger, few too many walks. http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseb ... -1.2922533

Frayed Knot Jan 26 2017 06:03 PM Re: Bullpen

The Mets have "some level of interest" on RHRs Sergio Romo & (one-time NYM) Joe Smith and are "keeping an eye on" Jerry Blevins says FOX's Ken Rosenthal, but are said by sources to NYDN's Jon Harper to be "just browsing" at this stage and not close to an agreement with any of the three. http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseb ... -1.2956172

Vic Sage Jan 27 2017 05:19 PM Re: Bullpen

while i'd be fine with any of those, i don't see a substantial upgrade there from what we have now, namely: Starters: Syndegaard, deGrom, Harvey, Matz, Gsellman CL: Familia (if suspended, Reed)-x CL/set-up: Reed set-up: Robles situational LH: Smoker situational RH: Goeddel long/6th SP: Wheeler-x x- if Wheeler is on DL, or if Famila is suspended, or a 7th RP is added = Lugo other LHPs on 40man: Edgin,Gilmartin other RHPs on 40man: Montero, Ynoa, Flexen, Molina non-roster ST invitees: LHP: P.J. Conlon, David Roseboom, Adam Wilk RHP: Chase Bradford, Kevin McGowan, Ben Rowen, Paul Sewald, Corey Taylor, Logan Taylor Rather than sign one of those relievers on the scrap heap, i'd just as soon trade Bruce for a real set-up guy, to pitch the 8th for Reed. If they think Joe Smith is still that guy, well ok then. --

Centerfield Jan 27 2017 05:29 PM Re: Bullpen

I think we badly need a LOOGY. Smoker is bad against lefties, and everyone else is right-handed.

Edgy MD Jan 27 2017 05:42 PM Re: Bullpen

Well, Edgin isn't righthanded. Neither is Gilmartin, Roseboom, or Wilk. Plus Roseboom has BOOM in his name.

Centerfield Jan 27 2017 05:47 PM Re: Bullpen

Maybe Edgin can bounce back. But from what I remember he didn't seem particularly sharp last year. Gilmartin, I remember, was not effective against lefties either. Don't know about the new minor-league guys. I suspect they can't be all that good if they are minor league guys.

Edgy MD Jan 27 2017 05:50 PM Re: Bullpen

Well, they're all minor league guys until they're not. Rose-BOOM! held lefties to a .141 average (and righties to .189) in Binghamton last season. OE: Adam Wilk held LHB to a .167 average in the International League.

Centerfield Jan 27 2017 05:59 PM Re: Bullpen

Are the lefties prospects? I thought we had signed a couple of journeyman minor-leaguers. In the end, I don't care where the LOOGY comes from, so long as we have someone who is tough against lefties. We have Harper, Freeman, Murphy and Yelich in this league. I just hope we have a good plan in place to find a few of these guys, rather than just hoping that a career journeyman suddenly finds himself.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 27 2017 06:29 PM Re: Bullpen

Roseboom looks like a relief pitcher. I think this guy's ready.

Benjamin Grimm Jan 27 2017 06:31 PM Re: Bullpen

I especially admire his power of telekinesis.

Edgy MD Jan 27 2017 07:01 PM Re: Bullpen

Centerfield wrote: Are the lefties prospects? I thought we had signed a couple of journeyman minor-leaguers. If by prospects, you mean guys originally signed and developed by the Mets, Rose[fimg=100]https://lostcoastoutpost.com/media/uploads/post/14486/57a5f0dd57a47e1bdb441cb7c5efc696.jpg[/fimg] fits the bill. Wilkie was a minor league free agent. But, you know, so was R.A. Dickey.

Centerfield Jan 27 2017 07:47 PM Re: Bullpen

Sorry, I think I am being careless with words here. I really don't know much about the lefties we have. I fear that aren't well stocked there and we are going to pine for someone to attack the big lefty hitters. If these guys are prospects, meaning young guys in our organization who have shown promise who we can reasonably expect to succeed, I'm all for that. If these guys are older, from other organizations, but our scouts see something new that they feel will be a difference maker, and we can reasonably expect them to succeed, then that's fine too. If we are taking a bunch of guys who suck and just playing a numbers game, then I think this is leaving too much to chance.

Vic Sage Jan 27 2017 08:16 PM Re: Bullpen

i'm all for signing a LOOGY, but the ones that are available don't excite me, and they'd cost more than the Wilpons will spend, as long as Bruce is still around. The best case scenario is trading Bruce for 2 serviceable, mid-tier relievers (a LOOGY and a ROOGY), or just one good reliever (LHP or RHP)

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jan 27 2017 09:03 PM Re: Bullpen

Greg Holland is off the market, at something less than full retail (which makes sense, considering the irregular tag on that elbow). The Rockies probably aren't looking to move folks, but... coming-off-a-down-year Jake McGee, anyone?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 27 2017 09:07 PM Re: Bullpen

Maybe as part of a Bruce/Blackmon WATP, perhaps? Otherwise, hard to see it.

Centerfield Jan 27 2017 09:39 PM Re: Bullpen

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Greg Holland is off the market, at something less than full retail (which makes sense, considering the irregular tag on that elbow). The Rockies probably aren't looking to move folks, but... coming-off-a-down-year Jake McGee, anyone? Man. I need to show the world I am healthy so I can get that long-term deal. One year where I can put up great numbers to show I'm back at full-strength. Cindy? Get my agent on the phone...tell him I want to go to Colorado.

Centerfield Jan 27 2017 09:40 PM Re: Bullpen

But seriously, 1 year, $7 million. You roll the dice on something like that no? Come on Mets.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jan 28 2017 06:33 AM Re: Bullpen

I mean, he's recovering and all. But when he was pitching, he was pitching. I mean, Mike Dunn made a 3 year deal at about that AAV.

Frayed Knot Feb 01 2017 01:19 PM Re: Bullpen

Still cautiously flirting with Blevins

Edgy MD Feb 02 2017 09:10 PM Re: Bullpen

Boone Logan is apparently Cleveland-bound. Breslow reporting that the Mets have been flirting with him, but that may just be about making Blevvy jealous.

Vic Sage Feb 03 2017 06:43 PM Re: Bullpen

no need for Blevins now... we got Gorzelanny! https://twitter.com/JonHeyman/status/827568197880659970

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Feb 03 2017 07:26 PM Re: Bullpen

Wait, again? Didn't he put up a shitty start or two for us in '13 or '14? OE: Conflating him with Lannan, whom I used to conflate with Suppan*, whom I used to occasionally get mixed up with John Lackey. *Come now, brain.

G-Fafif Feb 03 2017 07:36 PM Re: Bullpen

Rosenthal reports Fernando Salas is returning on a 1 year deal.

Lefty Specialist Feb 03 2017 07:39 PM Re: Bullpen

G-Fafif wrote: Rosenthal reports Fernando Salas is returning on a 1 year deal. Good stuff. He stabilized things down the stretch. Sign Blevins and you're done.

Frayed Knot Feb 03 2017 07:48 PM Re: Bullpen

Gorzelanny is one of those names I knew (like you could forget a name like that?!?) but couldn't have told you where he's been recently or in his career. Turns out the answer is Pitt, Cubs, Nats, Brewers, Tigers and Indians over the past 12 seasons. Hasn't pitched much at all lately -- just 3 IP in 7 appearances for Cleveland in 2016 -- turns 35 in mid-season. On the other hand it's a minor league invite. Salas was certainly good at year's end in 2016, although that was quite UNcharacteristic of how he had been prior to coming aborad so we'd be best to remember SSS before we expect to see six months of that.

RealityChuck Feb 04 2017 02:25 AM Re: Bullpen

Lefty Specialist wrote: G-Fafif wrote: Rosenthal reports Fernando Salas is returning on a 1 year deal. Good stuff. He stabilized things down the stretch. Sign Blevins and you're done. Your wish is my command.

Frayed Knot Feb 04 2017 01:00 PM Re: Bullpen

Blevins for one year at $6 mil plus an option for 2018 acc to unofficial reports. Sandy gets his price again. Certainly beats the hell out of the 3/$19 (plus option) that the Rockies gave Mike Dunn earlier this winter, especially seeing as how the two LH relievers are more or less the same guy. In the four seasons starting with 2013 the stats favor Blevins in H/9 (7.2 to 7.9), BB/9 (3.0 vs 3.7) and obviously WHiP (1.13 vs 1.26); Dunn slightly in K/9 (9.9 vs 9.5) and ERA (3.38 vs 3.56) Dunn is also a year and a half younger (32 in May vs 34 in Sept) and has been available for more appearances (273 to 211) but that's almost entirely on account of Blevins' lost 2015 year due to the broken arm rather than anything chronic or age related.

Lefty Specialist Feb 04 2017 01:09 PM Re: Bullpen

Sandy gettin' the band back together. Short of a Bruce deal in Spring Training when some other team's RF trips over his shoelaces and breaks a leg, this is pretty much it. This team rises or falls on health more than any other team I can remember.

Edgy MD Feb 04 2017 04:42 PM Re: Bullpen

How do you like them completing the Gorzellany deal first? Sandy Alderson: "Well, we've been trying all winter long, but haven't been able to come to terms with any lefties on a major league deal, so while we're offering you a minor league deal and an invitation to camp, the way we see it, if you work hard and show us something, you have a real chance to crack that roster and break camp with the team and be a real part of a playoff-bound roster from the get-go. Tom Gorzelanny: "You know, hell, gimme that contract. I'm signing." SA: "That's great. Here you go, right here." TG: "... L-A-N-N-Y. Sorry. I always run out of space and have to use the margin." SA: "That's fine. Now I want to introduce you to your new teammate, Jerry Blevins. I think you can learn a lot from him." TG: "@#$%!!!"

Centerfield Feb 04 2017 05:38 PM Re: Bullpen

Frayed Knot wrote: Blevins for one year at $6 mil plus an option for 2018 acc to unofficial reports. Sandy gets his price again. Certainly beats the hell out of the 3/$19 (plus option) that the Rockies gave Mike Dunn earlier this winter, especially seeing as how the two LH relievers are more or less the same guy. In the four seasons starting with 2013 the stats favor Blevins in H/9 (7.2 to 7.9), BB/9 (3.0 vs 3.7) and obviously WHiP (1.13 vs 1.26); Dunn slightly in K/9 (9.9 vs 9.5) and ERA (3.38 vs 3.56) Dunn is also a year and a half younger (32 in May vs 34 in Sept) and has been available for more appearances (273 to 211) but that's almost entirely on account of Blevins' lost 2015 year due to the broken arm rather than anything chronic or age related. This. Happy about the moves. I don't pretend to have any idea which middle reliever will do well in any given year. I think I was happy with the Bastardo signing last year. But I like that we have a lot of relatively cheap options that have a chance of being good. Well played Sandy.

Ashie62 Feb 06 2017 04:23 AM Re: Bullpen

Lefty Specialist wrote: Sandy gettin' the band back together. Short of a Bruce deal in Spring Training when some other team's RF trips over his shoelaces and breaks a leg, this is pretty much it. This team rises or falls on health more than any other team I can remember. I find it scary when the success of the team depends on the return of four starting pitchers more than any other pending issue. And I still want Bartolo back.

Edgy MD Feb 08 2017 03:30 PM Re: Bullpen

Strangely, none of these deals (Salas, Blevins, Gorzelanny) seem to be official yet. None have appeared on Mets.com or MLB transaction lists. I'm guessing that they're holding off the physicals until these guys report to camp, so they wouldn't have had to make a second trip, but I'm a little (pointlessly) anxious to close these out.

Vic Sage Feb 08 2017 07:51 PM Re: Bullpen

2017 projected pitching staff: Starters: Syndegaard, deGrom, Harvey, Matz, Gsellman CL: Familia (if suspended, Reed)* CL/set-up: Reed Set-up: Robles Situational LH: Blevins Situational RH: Salas 2nd LH: Smoker long-man/spot SP: Wheeler * * if Wheeler starts on DL, or if Famila is suspended, = Lugo Other pitchers on 40-man roster: - LHP: Smoker, Edgin, Gilmartin - RHP: Goeddel, Montero, Ynoa, Flexen, Molina Non-roster ST invitees: -LHP: Gorzelanny, Conlon, Roseboom, Wilk -RHP: Bradford, McGowan, Rowen, Sewald, C.Taylor, L.Taylor

MFS62 Feb 09 2017 08:26 PM Re: Bullpen

Internets are saying the Blevins deal is done (Heyman) and that Ty Kelly has been DFA, but saw no confirmation of the latter. Later