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It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Edgy MD Jan 05 2017 05:21 AM

Check this out. Video from December 27. When you were sleeping off your holiday, this was happening in Hampton Roads, VA. [video:ktzw8awq]https://www.facebook.com/hamptonroadssportsacademy/videos/1830383617178136/[/video:ktzw8awq]

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 05 2017 12:19 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Whifleball pitchers around the league are terrified

Edgy MD Jan 05 2017 01:24 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

That first one came it at, what? 38? 39?

MFS62 Jan 05 2017 02:08 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

I'd like to see what happened when he tried to bend down to retrieve the ball on the ground behind him. Later

Centerfield Jan 05 2017 02:23 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

He doesn't look right.

Frayed Knot Jan 05 2017 02:27 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

When are people going to learn that horizontal video works a lot better than vertical for like 90% of the stuff they shoot? I mean, we're how many years into the cell-phone era and Still folks don't realize this?!?

Edgy MD Jan 05 2017 02:36 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Well, it's December and he's hitting soft-serv and recovering from major back surgery, and still seemingly 20 pounds or so lighter than usual, so yeah, he's not ready to bat cleanup. But swinging a bat with full force and torque means something at this point, I hope. Beats sitting around and waiting for a green light from the docs.

Nymr83 Jan 05 2017 02:51 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

20 pounds lighter could be a good thing compared to the alternatives. i sure wouldn't be lighter if i stayed off my feet for 6 months...

Centerfield Jan 05 2017 02:53 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Understood, and I'm happy about the progress. Was just thinking that his swing doesn't look right. And I guess my swing doesn't ever look right, and certainly wouldn't if I had just had neck surgery and a degenerative back condition, but he's out on his front foot more than normal, a little more upright than I'm used to seeing, and he's letting go with one hand. Wright, when he's right, has as nice a swing as a righty can have. This just doesn't look like him.

Rockin' Doc Jan 06 2017 03:02 AM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Centerfield wrote: Understood, and I'm happy about the progress. Was just thinking that his swing doesn't look right. And I guess my swing doesn't ever look right, and certainly wouldn't if I had just had neck surgery and a degenerative back condition, but he's out on his front foot more than normal, a little more upright than I'm used to seeing, and he's letting go with one hand. Wright, when he's right, has as nice a swing as a righty can have. This just doesn't look like him. Well, one uses a different swing in slow pitch softball than they do when hitting a baseball. Still, it is encouraging that he is healthy enough to be swinging a bat once again.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jan 07 2017 12:21 AM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

I think we'll be okay if he can use a ghost runner when he hits, and a ghost diver/bender-overer/twist-to-make-backhanded-plays-er for the field.

Edgy MD Jan 07 2017 03:46 AM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Don't be voting for the Givuplicans.

Ashie62 Jan 07 2017 08:27 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Thats just a picture of a guy hoping he can play. I wouldn't even call what we see a swing.

Edgy MD Jan 07 2017 08:41 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Sure it's a swing. And it's a video (not a picture) of a guy semi-immobilized and largely inactive over the last year who has been given clearance to swing and is doing so. And that's not nothing.

G-Fafif Feb 15 2017 07:51 PM New Aches & Pains: Injuries in 2017

Zack Wheeler tries not to feel a little tenderness, but does -- in his right elbow. Scar tissue from surgery, it is said.

Benjamin Grimm Feb 15 2017 07:53 PM Re: New Aches & Pains: Injuries in 2017

Hopefully that's all it is, but big things frequently start small. Next week we'll probably be reading about how someone found his arm lying on the dugout floor.

Ceetar Feb 15 2017 07:54 PM Re: New Aches & Pains: Injuries in 2017

this just in, pitching after two years hurts.

Edgy MD Feb 15 2017 08:04 PM Re: New Aches & Pains: Injuries in 2017

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Hopefully that's all it is, but big things frequently start small. And yet, this is hardly the start.

Benjamin Grimm Feb 15 2017 08:08 PM Re: New Aches & Pains: Injuries in 2017

That's true too.

Ashie62 Feb 15 2017 11:06 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Wright swinging and taking balls at 3rd and first. Not cleared to throw yet but on an arm strength program. I am now cautiously optimistic.

Frayed Knot Feb 16 2017 02:54 AM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

The award for best injury of the spring may already have been won as Royals LH reliever Brian Flynn (of course he's left-handed) was working on the roof of his barn when he fell through it. The fall resulted in him knocking himself out temporarily, breaking a rib, and sustaining "three non-displaced fractures in his vertebrae". As a result, he'll be about eight weeks behind the rest of the children in the lessons for the spring semester.

MFS62 Feb 16 2017 04:40 AM Re: New Aches & Pains: Injuries in 2017

G-Fafif wrote: Zack Wheeler tries not to feel a little tenderness, but does -- in his right elbow. Scar tissue from surgery, it is said. I'm cautiously optimistic. But like Ben, I know that anything can happen. I fought through recovering from a sore pitching arm myself and I appreciate what is going through Wheeler's mind. What he's feeling is caused by breaking adhesions and other scar tissue and is considered normal. He has probably been told to expect it and that it results in better freedom of motion. He has probably been told to expect it several times during his rehab. So, unless this discomfort is far beyond what is expected, it may indicate that Wheeler is a wus. Later

John Cougar Lunchbucket Feb 16 2017 05:08 AM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

I'm leaning toward the assumption Wheeler's career is about over and whatever we get from him, if anything, has to be looked at as a surprise by now. It's not like this was a guy who ever had it all together before a serious injury, surgery and a poor recovery from surgery. What is anyone expecting?

Edgy MD Feb 16 2017 05:16 AM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Well, the Wheeler Expectations thread wasn't due for another month, but he may well be retired by then. Yeah, I was dubious that he was going to help the team much this season, and I'm doubly dubious now.

Ashie62 Feb 16 2017 11:51 AM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Points for "doubly dubious." Did not know Zack was hurting again. I think I have heard when it works it is Tommy John surgery. When it does not it is Steve Trout surgery. Missing Bartolo today. Kristie Ackert on Zack from yesterday. [url]http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/mets/zack-wheeler-shut-day-experiencing-tenderness-article-1.2973547

Ceetar Feb 16 2017 01:41 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

I'm going to need more than soreness from throwing after two years before I dig the grave personally. Especially since they're purposely not wanting anyone to really be throwing much yet.

TransMonk Feb 16 2017 04:11 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: It's not like this was a guy who ever had it all together before a serious injury, surgery and a poor recovery from surgery. What is anyone expecting? Dude had a 3.50 ERA in 49 starts with 8.5 K/9. I would at worst label his pre-injury career as "average" and there was certainly room for him to grow, but I don't remember thinking he was below expectations based on his youth and experience. The fortune we have had with deGrom/Syndergaard/Harvey/Matz all being really good (better than Wheeler) very early in their careers may have altered the expectations, though. If he was being counted on the the ace or even the number two, I would agree that he was definitely not that guy yet pre-injury, but I'd be thrilled to have those stats from a fifth starter. I do think having missed two years makes it less likely that he will reach the ceiling we all thought he had back in 2013-14, but I haven't given up on him being valuable yet.

Centerfield Feb 16 2017 04:40 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Zach Wheeler starts were torture to watch. He lacked control, his secondary pitches were sub-par, and he used to run up late-career Al Leiter-type pitch counts. I agree with JCL that he wasn't all that beforehand. He was a good pitcher. And those numbers are actually better than what I would have thought. And yes, I get that he is young and could definitely have gotten better. The one encouraging thing that I remember reading, pre-surgery, was that the TJ operation would alleviate issues he had been dealing with for years, and that he expected to improve coming out on the other end. That, I guess, is still possible. Notwithstanding the long recovery. At this point, nothing would really surprise me about Wheeler. If he came on and was lights out, it's in the realm of possibility. So is a second TJ surgery and never making it back to the bigs. Such is pitching I guess.

Edgy MD Feb 16 2017 04:42 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

TransMonk wrote: If he was being counted on the the ace or even the number two, I would agree that he was definitely not that guy yet pre-injury, but I'd be thrilled to have those stats from a fifth starter. The thing is, after being that guy two years ago, and being two years in the wasteland without throwing a pitch, and with him seemingly already on a tight innings ratio (Terry was talking 25 starts limited to five innings per, and that's the upside!), it would seem to be a far better ambition to invest hopes in Gsellman. I mean, 125 innings as a starter at 3.50 ERA. I imagine that's somewhere between 1.1 and 1.5 fWAR. And that's the upside? And yeah, Centerfield has a pretty good description of him above. I likened him to Pelfrey, getting ahead of batters and then forever wasting two pitches away. I'm considering anything the Mets get from him as a bonus. And I'll certainly congratulate him if he gets his career back on track after that long layoff.

TransMonk Feb 16 2017 05:03 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Overall, you're right about Gsellman having more upside now...if he puts up a 3.50 ERA over a full season, I'll be ecstatic. Still, I had no problem with Wheeler's development pre-injury. He did waste pitches after getting ahead, but he had better stuff (and stats) than Pelfrey over each of their first 49 starts.

Benjamin Grimm Feb 16 2017 05:04 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Edgy MD wrote: ... it would seem to be a far better ambition to invest hopes in Gsellman. I think so too. Kristie Ackert made the argument today that Wheeler has to pitch as a starter because he wouldn't be able to handle the ups and downs of being a bullpen pitcher. If she's right about that, then should he get those starts at Vegas, while Gsellman pitches for the Mets? Or are Wheeler innings going to be regarded as so precious that they have to be pitched in the big leagues?

Benjamin Grimm Feb 16 2017 05:04 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Edgy MD wrote: ... it would seem to be a far better ambition to invest hopes in Gsellman. I think so too. Kristie Ackert made the argument today that Wheeler has to pitch as a starter because he wouldn't be able to handle the ups and downs of being a bullpen pitcher. If she's right about that, then should he get those starts at Vegas, while Gsellman pitches for the Mets? Or are Wheeler innings going to be regarded as so precious that they have to be pitched in the big leagues?

Ceetar Feb 16 2017 06:44 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

I imagine there will be opportunities for both Gsellman and Wheeler.

Edgy MD Apr 18 2017 08:58 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

News POURING out on the injury front, although that may just be a case of the writers having had an off day. [list]Matz: Throwing tomorry for the fist time since spring training. Lugo: Throwing tomorry for the fist time since spring training. Wright: Resuming béisbol activities this week.[/list:u]

Benjamin Grimm Apr 18 2017 09:05 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

I may be even more pessimistic about Lugo than I am about Wright.

Edgy MD Apr 20 2017 03:38 AM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

It could be nuttin' but Matt Reynolds was pulled from the Vegas-Fresno matchup mid-game.

MFS62 Apr 20 2017 12:31 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Edgy MD wrote: It could be nuttin' but Matt Reynolds was pulled from the Vegas-Fresno matchup mid-game. They didn't play Amed Rosario two nights ago, but then he played again last night. I had call-up ideas. I think the Reynolds move was because he was playing left field in a scoreless game (they later lost 1-0) and the mgr wanted a more experienced outfielder in there for defense. Later

Frayed Knot Apr 20 2017 01:51 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

I read some column touting Rosario as having "nothing left to prove" at AAA and so should be called up immediately, something which is wildly overreacting IMO Not only is Reyes going to get at least 100 ABs (currently 53) but Rosario has all of 51 AAA ABs (with barely 300 in total above the A-ball level) and, though hitting .353, his hits are all singles and he's walked just twice. No, I think he has a lot left to prove yet and is very unlikely to be the first move made even if Reyes is cut/benched/demoted/whatever.

Ashie62 Apr 21 2017 02:45 AM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Wilmer Flores has a staph infection in a joint. That could be awhile.

G-Fafif Apr 21 2017 04:39 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

So this is what happens when Ray Ramirez sends injured Mets down the tunnel.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 21 2017 07:41 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Flores to the DL Cabrera banged up, not playing (he looked very slow this whole series especially on D) TJ Rivera called up, playing 3B Bruce at 1B Reyes at SS Cespedes not playing dArnaud not playing oh Doodooo also to the DL, Gilmartin back up

Ashie62 Apr 21 2017 09:27 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

I haven't seen Nimmo's name in about three weeks.

bmfc1 Apr 21 2017 09:57 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

I think I saw that Nimmo is hurt. It's hard to keep track.

DocTee Apr 22 2017 12:39 AM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

It seems that every time a regular for whom Wilmer Flores can take over gets hurt...so does Wilmer Flores. He needs to time his own injuries better. Or get hurt less frequently.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 22 2017 12:49 AM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Ashie62 wrote: Wilmer Flores has a staph infection in a joint. That could be awhile. I mean, it's antibiotics for a week or so, no? Or, y'know, it's drug-resistant, life-threatening good times.

MFS62 Apr 22 2017 12:54 AM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

DocTee wrote: It seems that every time a regular for whom Wilmer Flores can take over gets hurt...so does Wilmer Flores. He needs to time his own injuries better. Or get hurt less frequently. I noticed that,too. Wilmer can't catch a Wally Pipp replacement break. Later

Benjamin Grimm Apr 22 2017 12:54 AM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Madison Bumgarner banged up in a dirt bike accident. Will miss two months.

MFS62 Apr 22 2017 12:31 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Madison Bumgarner banged up in a dirt bike accident. Will miss two months. You would have thought they would have a Jeff Kent (Don't be an idiot) clause in the contracts of their star players. Later

Ashie62 Apr 22 2017 08:46 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Ashie62 wrote: Wilmer Flores has a staph infection in a joint. That could be awhile. I mean, it's antibiotics for a week or so, no? Or, y'know, it's drug-resistant, life-threatening good times. Staph is a complete disruption of the joint with pain. The joint gets tapped and you hope bios fix it.

Centerfield Apr 24 2017 06:41 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Some good news. Multiple reports have Lucas Duda coming off the DL when he is eligible (I think Sunday). That is some OBP and SLG coming back. I guess you move Bruce back to RF and then move Conforto to CF when that happens. I guess Granderson is the odd man out.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 24 2017 06:48 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Yes I think the difficult but sad reality is that Brucie and Grandy will have to fight for 1 position between them most nights.

Centerfield Apr 24 2017 07:18 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Yes I think the difficult but sad reality is that Brucie and Grandy will have to fight for 1 position between them most nights. I think it might be a good idea to let Cespedes rest from time to time too. He's got fragile legs.

Ashie62 Apr 24 2017 08:15 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

The Pirates have stated publicly that they are looking for an OF.

Edgy MD Apr 24 2017 08:34 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

I'd be surprised if they'd bite at anybody as costly as Bruce or Granderson. Maybe if the Mets included Plawecki and took Francisco Cervelli or something. But then they'd have to include something else sweet. Like, really sweet.

Edgy MD Apr 27 2017 06:27 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

So, not DL-ing Céspedes is apparently ... a decision that hasn't panned out. As far as kids to bring up, you've got [list:az59ojuw][*:az59ojuw]Nimmo, who would be playing his second rehab game for St. Lucie today.[/*:m:az59ojuw] [*:az59ojuw]Taijeron, hitting .304 / .388 / .522 // .909 for Las Vegas.[/*:m:az59ojuw] [*:az59ojuw]Smith, hitting .342 / .388 // .506 // .895 for Las Vegas, who could come up and play first, and push Bruce back to the outfield.[/*:m:az59ojuw][/list:u:az59ojuw]

Benjamin Grimm Apr 27 2017 06:32 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Duda's back soon, right? I doubt that they'd call up Smith.

cooby Apr 27 2017 06:35 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Can we blame the conditioning coach? Cripes.

d'Kong76 Apr 27 2017 06:36 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

April sucks, bring on May...

themetfairy Apr 27 2017 06:37 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

cooby wrote: Can we blame the conditioning coach? Cripes.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 27 2017 06:42 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Barwis is my Goat. 1) He was hand-picked by Jeff Wilpon who doesn't know anything 2) He has these guys doing shit that probably doesn't help them be better baseball players 3) Muscles exploding and backs breaking would suggest as much 4) Listen to this freaking douche for christ sakes: http://www.discovery.com/tv-shows/ameri ... ke-barwis/

Edgy MD Apr 27 2017 06:46 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Barwis is as good a guess as any. I know I wasn't thinking, "Let's resign Céspedes and then lock him in a gym until he's as big as a bear!"

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 27 2017 06:46 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

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Edgy MD Apr 27 2017 06:49 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Send that shit to Sandy NOW!!!!

cooby Apr 27 2017 06:56 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Why would anyone train with him on purpose? Kinda like my jr high gym teacher on steroids. That guy with the beard doing jerks will have no elbows soon

seawolf17 Apr 27 2017 07:33 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

cooby wrote: That guy with the beard doing jerks will have no elbows soon BREAKING: Mets sign Beardo From the Barwis Video to a four-year, $66 million contract, and place him on the 60-day DL.

cooby Apr 27 2017 07:35 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Haha!

Ashie62 Apr 27 2017 08:15 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Yes I think the difficult but sad reality is that Brucie and Grandy will have to fight for 1 position between them most nights. Not anymore.

Edgy MD Apr 27 2017 08:22 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

So who is your callup, dudes?

cooby Apr 27 2017 08:36 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Darryl strawberry

seawolf17 Apr 27 2017 08:39 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Edgy MD wrote: So who is your callup, dudes? Nimmo, because otherwise you're starting the clock on the others. I'd cut Granderson and Reyes and call up Taijeron and Rosario. But it's not my money.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 27 2017 08:39 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Edgy MD wrote: So who is your callup, dudes? I wish they would send us Zimmo and Cecchini right this second.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 27 2017 08:41 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

I am prepared to wait a few beats for Rosario. When Doodoo returns we won't even miss Ces. Oh and what the hell, let's get LJ Mazzilli up here

Edgy MD Apr 27 2017 08:45 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Nimmo is probably two or three days away but I wouldn't be shocked if he was on a plane to DCA right now. Washington, sheesh.

cooby Apr 27 2017 10:37 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Just showed these videos to my hubby, who used to lift weights for football. He's appalled that this guy is anywhere near a professional athlete (let alone OURS!) Strongman training has no place in baseball.

Centerfield Apr 27 2017 11:20 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Wait, so Cespedes gets a leg injury. Instead of putting him on the DL (now only 10 days) they play shorthanded against their main division rival. Then bring him back too early, so that he aggravates it, then ends up on the DL for much longer. Where have I heard that one before?

Lefty Specialist Apr 29 2017 04:11 AM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

No faith in the medical staff, part #28054: Syndergaard refuses an MRI and pronounces himself ready to start on Sunday. For everyone's sake, I hope he's right.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 29 2017 04:03 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

It's like he learned nothing from Harvey's pride-goeth-before-a-fall episodes.

Edgy MD Apr 29 2017 05:32 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

You want to tell me that you have no faith in Mike Barwis to train you in the gym, that's fine. If you put no credence in a diagnosis from a doctor staring at a screen in his white coat at the hospital for special surgery, that's silly.

bmfc1 Apr 29 2017 05:34 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Duda is back on Monday. I guess that Reynolds departs. I wouldn't mind Nimmo coming up and Granderson taking a break.

Ashie62 Apr 29 2017 05:38 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

I thought Syndergaard was joking. Oye.

Edgy MD Apr 29 2017 05:46 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

bmfc1 wrote: Duda is back on Monday. I guess that Reynolds departs. I wouldn't mind Nimmo coming up and Granderson taking a break. Well, if the USS Syndergaard is able to fly, there's little reason for Gilmartin. I think there's little call for 13 pitchers or three catchers as it is.

bmfc1 Apr 29 2017 06:08 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Good point. So many fringe major leaguers to choose from!

Lefty Specialist Apr 30 2017 06:32 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Lefty Specialist wrote: No faith in the medical staff, part #28054: Syndergaard refuses an MRI and pronounces himself ready to start on Sunday. For everyone's sake, I hope he's right. Well, fuck.

Ashie62 Apr 30 2017 09:47 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

No Duda? [url]http://www.nj.com/mets/index.ssf/2017/04/whats_wrong_with_mets_lucas_duda.html#incart_river_index

Edgy MD May 01 2017 05:04 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Wilmer and Nimmo went 5-9 total with two homers (one each) and a double for St. Lucie yesterday. Wilmer played first and Nimmo DH'd.

Ashie62 May 02 2017 04:16 AM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Whatever happened to Duda? Setback?

Ashie62 May 02 2017 04:32 AM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Duda felt a "twinge" in his elbow in his first rehab game Friday. He will be reevaluated. I hope T.J. Rivera gets to stay.

Edgy MD May 02 2017 11:15 AM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Well, he's certainly ahead of Reynolds and Plawecki, so if the team gets Flores back, Rivera should be as safe as houses.

Ashie62 May 03 2017 04:27 AM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Just cueing this up for the next report on Travis d'boo boo

Benjamin Grimm May 05 2017 02:58 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

The fact that just about every reference to Steven Matz's injury describes it as a "mysterious elbow ailment" doesn't really give me a warm fuzzy feeling.

Ashie62 May 05 2017 10:07 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Ashie62 wrote: Just cueing this up for the next report on Travis d'boo boo Travis on 10 day DL retro 5/3, bruised wrist

Ashie62 May 07 2017 01:04 AM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Ashie62 wrote: Whatever happened to Duda? Setback? Oh doo duh.. ohh Zimmo? I am beginning to think Zimmo is fra-gile. Where are these guys?

Edgy MD May 07 2017 03:07 AM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

I don't know why you would think that about Nimmo. He's playing. He may well get activated as Cabrera's replacement, if one is needed.

Ashie62 May 07 2017 12:00 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Edgy MD wrote: I don't know why you would think that about Nimmo. He's playing. He may well get activated as Cabrera's replacement, if one is needed. I am under the impression it was an injured hamstring only and very surprised that it would take two months to heal. Anyway, glad to see him returning and hopefully leading off.

Benjamin Grimm May 07 2017 10:08 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

The Failing New York Times wrote: In an interview with SiriusXM MLB Network Radio on Sunday afternoon, Mets General Manager Sandy Alderson said that the ligaments in shortstop Asdrubal Cabrera’s left hand between his thumb and index finger were intact despite an injury he sustained during Saturday’s game. “We’ve got about the best news that we could from that situation,” Alderson said, adding, “Cabrera’s out for a short period of time, hopefully.”

bmfc1 May 07 2017 10:18 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Crazy idea: it's been 2 days already, there's a day off on Thursday so use the 10-day DL. They were already concerned about him so let him rest.

cooby May 07 2017 11:25 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Here's the thing. The Mets are having a time out of mind with injuries and Harvey decides to just do his own thing (whatever it may have been) when they need everyone to be as sharp as they can. Dump his butt.

MFS62 May 08 2017 01:12 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Good news. The Mets have given Matt Harvey three days off to allow his migraines to feel better. Later

Ashie62 May 10 2017 11:43 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

I hope Conforto's hammy heal quicker than some others on the team.

Benjamin Grimm May 16 2017 02:52 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

This isn't particularly surprising. Abbey Mastracco,NJ.com wrote: No one has more hope for a David Wright return than David Wright himself, but that return seems further away by the day. According to Mets' assistant general manager John Rico, Wright once again has been shut down from his throwing program and his only work is with team physical therapists in New York. It's unclear when Wright, who is on the 60-day disabled list with cervical disc herniation, will be able to start throwing again. But it's not likely to be soon. That makes it unlikely that he'll return to the team before the 60-game mark, meaning the Mets will recoup 75 percent of contract while he is unable to play, based on the insurance policy the club purchased in 2015. The team has been able to recoup a significant amount of his salary the past two seasons because he has played only 36 and 37 games, respectively.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 16 2017 03:12 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

#BarwisMethod

Edgy MD May 16 2017 03:39 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

He was on the 60-day DL anyhow. So the recoup (whoop-de-doo) was almost a certainty anyhow. But I guess knowing that makes it more workable to take on a contract now, if they choose.

themetfairy May 16 2017 03:58 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Benjamin Grimm wrote: This isn't particularly surprising. Abbey Mastracco,NJ.com wrote: No one has more hope for a David Wright return than David Wright himself, but that return seems further away by the day. According to Mets' assistant general manager John Rico, Wright once again has been shut down from his throwing program and his only work is with team physical therapists in New York. It's unclear when Wright, who is on the 60-day disabled list with cervical disc herniation, will be able to start throwing again. But it's not likely to be soon. That makes it unlikely that he'll return to the team before the 60-game mark, meaning the Mets will recoup 75 percent of contract while he is unable to play, based on the insurance policy the club purchased in 2015. The team has been able to recoup a significant amount of his salary the past two seasons because he has played only 36 and 37 games, respectively. September 9th is a TBD promotion. My strong suspicion is that it will be David Wright's retirement ceremony.

Frayed Knot May 16 2017 04:18 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

I don't believe that this issue has already been decided and especially not to the point of being pre-planned.

Ashie62 May 16 2017 04:21 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Here is the whole article with updates on the other wounded. [url]http://www.nj.com/mets/index.ssf/2017/05/mets_injury_updates_bad_news_regarding_david_wrigh.html#incart_river_index

Ashie62 May 16 2017 04:22 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Frayed Knot wrote: I don't believe that this issue has already been decided and especially not to the point of being pre-planned. I agree but would not bet against the idea.

Edgy MD May 16 2017 04:27 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

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Benjamin Grimm May 16 2017 04:46 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

I don't think David will retire by September, but the handwriting has got to be on the wall. I definitely admire how determined he is to come back, but the odds are looking steeper and steeper. And by that I mean not only the odds that he'll be able to swing a bat and throw a ball, but also that he'll be able to do so well enough to actually help a big league team. At some point he's bound to say, "I've done everything I can. Time to move on to whatever is next."

themetfairy May 16 2017 06:45 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

I don't believe it's pre-planned per se. But I believe it's being reserved, just in case. Just like last summer's TBD date became Piazza's number retirement. If something is TBD this late in the season, the odds are that they're saving it for something bigger than a lucky canary bobblehead. (Watch - the first 15,000 fans on September 9th will receive lucky canary bobbleheads....)

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 16 2017 07:04 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

That's an interesting observation anyway, especially pointing out last year's parallel. You figure if DW doesn't pack it in, they could always fall back on some kind of Mets HOF induction, possibly of a dead guy like Rube Walker, saving them the trouble of needing to plan too much ahead of time.

Edgy MD May 16 2017 07:28 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

My crystal ball says ... Vin Scully Day! Born in New York, raised in New York, started his career in New York, and then spent 50+ years on the West Coast working for Fred's Dodgers. Called Game Six and did so exquisitely. Vin Scully Day.

Benjamin Grimm May 16 2017 07:34 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Doesn't Vin no longer travel? He might not be up for a trip to New York. Maybe instead, on that day the Mets can retire number 2 for Lute Barnes.

Lefty Specialist May 16 2017 07:43 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Doesn't Vin no longer travel? He might not be up for a trip to New York. Maybe instead, on that day the Mets can retire number 2 for Lute Barnes. Or Bobby Valentine!

Ashie62 May 16 2017 10:27 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

IN JEST, We also announce the retirement of, LUCAS DUDA NEIL WALKER JOSE REYES CURTIS GRANDERSON TRAVIS D'ARNAUD STEVEN MATZ SETH LUGO JOSH SMOKER ROBERT GSELLMAN HANSEL ROBLES and KEVIN PLAWECKI Cheers

MFS62 May 17 2017 12:24 AM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

themetfairy wrote: September 9th is a TBD promotion. My strong suspicion is that it will be David Wright's retirement ceremony. Shucks! I'm hoping for a Derek Jeter Iron Glove giveaway day. Later

Lefty Specialist May 17 2017 12:50 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

I think David will have a press conference in the off-season and they'll have a day for him next year.

cooby May 17 2017 12:51 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Lefty Specialist wrote: Benjamin Grimm wrote: Doesn't Vin no longer travel? He might not be up for a trip to New York. Maybe instead, on that day the Mets can retire number 2 for Lute Barnes. Or Bobby Valentine! Or Mackey

batmagadanleadoff May 18 2017 04:02 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/ ... edule-2017 From The New Yorker: The New York Mets 2017 Injury Schedule ----- [fimg=1066]https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4172/34697114506_d5e2e31258_k.jpg[/fimg]

batmagadanleadoff May 18 2017 08:24 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

All those Mets injuries? Guess whose fault they are? Jeff Wilpon. (Mike Barwis, too) According to these, uh-oh, get ready for it .... anonymous sources. Mets' injury issues go far beyond the disabled list excerpt: Multiple people familiar with the Mets' operation -- most of whom spoke on the condition of anonymity -- say the team has a less-than-optimal command structure that allows routine problems to fester until they become major conflagrations. Too often, the Mets' approach leads to communication breakdowns, mixed signals or a lack of trust between the team and its players. "It's the same old, same old mistakes,'' one industry source said. "The Mets are a successful, profitable organization. But no organization, over a protracted period of time, has more significant players on the disabled list. There's a failing across the board. And what changes have been instituted, if any?'' [***] So who's in charge? Multiple sources said the lack of a single medical point person allows for greater involvement by COO Jeff Wilpon in areas where he's lacking in professional expertise. They describe Wilpon as a micromanager who creates an environment in which the Mets simply whipsaw from one crisis to the next and are too often governed by how their decisions will be publicly perceived. "Jeff gets in the middle of everything that's going on, and he ends up doing more damage,'' said a person who has been involved in the Mets' internal operation. "He meddles. I can't come up with a more appropriate term.'' http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/1940 ... abled-list

MFS62 May 18 2017 11:49 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Rehab update: Matz and Lugo pitching, TDA catching tonight for St. Lucie. Later

Ashie62 May 19 2017 02:44 AM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

TDA is close. On the Espn piece, multiple sources? Cmon. I don't buy that the Mets have a systemic business problem with injury management. At the moment they do have a dozen guys on the wrong side of 30. There may lay the true answer.

Frayed Knot May 19 2017 03:22 AM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

This is the first official game (extended ST doesn't count) for the two pitchers which means it also 'starts the clock' on their rehab time. 20 days is, I believe, the maximum time allowed which takes us to June 7th as the latest date they could be activated - 17 games on the schedule between now and then. Of course they can always been re-DL'd if things don't go well but, set-backs aside, we now at least have a time frame for the two which is more than we've had since this whole thing began back in ST That date should also serve as a wake-up call to the current under-performers. The Syndergaard injury and the crashing and burning by in-house replacements (Montero, Wilk) have left Terry with few alternatives to those currently contributing to the league's worst ERA but soon (hopefully anyway) there will be. Gsellman, Harvey & Milone will need to sing for their supper now over the next 2-3 weeks.

bmfc1 May 19 2017 11:44 AM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 19 2017 01:04 PM

Ashie62 wrote: TDA is close. This must be a rarity as brothers are listed in the daily transactions: http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/transactions/?tc ... &year=2017

Frayed Knot May 19 2017 12:56 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

That's two DFAs for Cd'A in 1/4 of one season (Braves and now Bosox). Baseball is a tough business at times. 1 run on 2 hits, 2 BBs, 3 Ks over 3 innings for Matz in PSL yesterday 3.2 shutout innings for Lugo: 2 hits / 0 Ks / 0 BB Each faced 13 batters. Can't find any pitch count data although just looking at the lines you'd expect it took more for Matz to get through his stint than Lugo

Ashie62 May 23 2017 07:28 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Per the snooze, Cespedes' return has been pushed back a few more days. I would not be shocked if he's out another 2-3 weeks. I would be willing to plunk Nimmo in center for awhile. Lets find out, the kid looks ready.

Rockin' Doc May 24 2017 01:33 AM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

MFS62 wrote: Rehab update: Matz and Lugo pitching, TDA catching tonight for St. Lucie. Later I will be shocked if the Mets get more than 5 starts out of Matx before he is hurt again. The guy just seems fragile. He always seems to have some sort of injury.

Frayed Knot May 24 2017 01:49 AM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Matz: 5 runs on 5 hits in 4 innings vs Round Rock tonight; 2 walks, 4 Ks, and 2 HRs (both to the same guy - Cesar Puello!!) Sounds like he'll need at least one more tune-up.

Ashie62 May 24 2017 02:19 AM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

He still did better than Milone.

Frayed Knot May 25 2017 07:05 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Asdrubal Cabrera: went 2-for-5 in his rehab assignment w/Binghamton Wednesday night. Terry said that he could need "from six to ten games" before being reactivated. So, mid/late next week if nothing else goes haywire.

MFS62 May 25 2017 08:04 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Matz: 5 runs on 5 hits in 4 innings vs Round Rock tonight; 2 walks, 4 Ks, and 2 HRs (both to the same guy - Cesar Puello!!) I always knew my kid could hit well against a major league pitcher. (Just didn't think it would happen in the minors) Later

Rockin' Doc May 28 2017 12:50 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Cespedes went 0-2 with a walk and a run scored in his first rehab start with St. Lucie last night. Unfortunately, Cepsedes who has been out due to a strained left hamstring, had to leave the game in the 6th inning after experiencing tightness in right quad while running the bases. He is not expected to play again until Tuesday at the earliest. [url]http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/19480896/yoenis-cespedes-new-york-mets-shut-least-tuesday-soreness-right-quad

Edgy MD May 29 2017 12:44 AM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Helluva rehab start for Steven Matz agains the mighty El Paso Chihuahuas. I have to conclude that he's done rehabbing.

Frayed Knot May 29 2017 01:14 AM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

And if you can strike-out a whole ton of Chihuahuas your stuff will work against anyone. Gotta also like seeing Nimmo with a 4-for-5 day including 3 doubles.

Ashie62 May 29 2017 01:17 AM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Cespedes pulled today with a quad.

Edgy MD May 29 2017 02:19 AM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Already reported above. That actually was last night. Meanwhile after Matz' day was done, Alberto Baldonado came on and put up this line: 0.1 IP, 3, H, 4 Runs (all earned), 1 BB, 0 SO. He can be a Met with a show like that. But amazingly, he was credited with a hold.

Frayed Knot May 29 2017 02:23 AM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Seth Lugo, a Rumble Pony du jour, allowed 3 runs on 8 hits + 2 BBs + 8 Ks over 6 innings to various (Hartford) Yard Goats Bingo went down 3-2

Ashie62 May 29 2017 05:58 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Frayed Knot wrote: Seth Lugo, a Rumble Pony du jour, allowed 3 runs on 8 hits + 2 BBs + 8 Ks over 6 innings to various (Hartford) Yard Goats Bingo went down 3-2 Lugo should get the surgery.

Ashie62 May 29 2017 05:59 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Already reported above. That actually was last night. Meanwhile after Matz' day was done, Alberto Baldonado came on and put up this line: 0.1 IP, 3, H, 4 Runs (all earned), 1 BB, 0 SO. He can be a Met with a show like that. But amazingly, he was credited with a hold. Any new time frame on Ces?

Edgy MD May 29 2017 06:56 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Week to 10 days, sez Alderson. Even as he came out of the game, they were announcing he'd be back on Tuesday. It was reported as tightness, and he came out of the game out of caution, rather than an injury.

Ashie62 Jun 07 2017 02:30 AM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Two months for a hammy. Wow.

Frayed Knot Jun 07 2017 02:39 AM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

If April 27th to June 7th counts as two months, then yeah. btw, there are guys who have missed half a season or more with hamstring injuries.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 09 2017 12:51 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Is it me, or did the back thing start like this, too? Collins said Walker told him the knee was bothering him after Tuesday’s game.

Ashie62 Jun 09 2017 09:08 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Ces back Saturday as the 26th man for the doubleheader per Puma. YIPPEE! I saw Lugo slated to start, I think Sunday.

G-Fafif Jun 13 2017 07:29 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

So many places to mention Cabrera's thumb has him back on the DL.

Benjamin Grimm Jun 13 2017 07:42 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

And Jay-or-Reese Familia hopes to get clearance to start throwing.

smg58 Jun 13 2017 09:23 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

G-Fafif wrote: So many places to mention Cabrera's thumb has him back on the DL. You can't convince me that Reyes at shortstop instead of Rosario gives the Mets the best chance of winning games right now.

Ashie62 Jun 13 2017 10:20 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

AMED!

Edgy MD Jun 14 2017 03:25 AM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Has Rosario gotten hurt?

G-Fafif Jun 14 2017 10:55 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Josh Smoker, 10-day DL, left shoulder strain.

themetfairy Jun 15 2017 06:16 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

While this is not baseball-related, D-Dad will be consulting with a surgeon at the Hospital for Special Surgery on Monday. Last month he had a fight with a kayak, and the kayak won big time. Between a damaged labrum and a fracture in the shoulder, he's going to need to be put back together, and it's way more complicated a procedure than what can be done in Suburgatory. At least Ray Ramirez will be 3,000 miles away from the City on Monday....

Edgy MD Jun 15 2017 07:08 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

No Neil Walker updates, man.

Ceetar Jun 15 2017 07:53 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Walker, out a few weeks. Harvey, out a few weeks.

A Boy Named Seo Jun 15 2017 07:54 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Ceetar wrote: Walker, out a few weeks. Harvey, out a few weeks. "Partially torn hammy" for Walker, according to my phone. That sounds ... bad.

Ceetar Jun 15 2017 08:00 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

A Boy Named Seo wrote: Ceetar wrote: Walker, out a few weeks. Harvey, out a few weeks. "Partially torn hammy" for Walker, according to my phone. That sounds ... bad. stress injury to shoulder thingy for Harvey. Scapula. Thor sidelined at least 4 more weeks before throwing. Smoker has some stuff in his elbow, shoulder is fine. News on familia tomorrow. there's another guy we could use an update on. What was his name again? no word.

Ashie62 Jun 15 2017 10:42 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Partially torn hammy ? Weeks and weeks. He may have played his last game as a Mets.

d'Kong76 Jun 16 2017 01:13 AM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Lagares with a fractured thumb thing I never heard of. Just another day at the office for Los Mets.

Ashie62 Jun 16 2017 04:08 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Smoker on DL with loose bodies in his shoulder.

Edgy MD Jun 16 2017 05:36 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Elbow.

RealityChuck Jun 16 2017 05:44 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

This season makes me long for the days of 2009. :(

themetfairy Jun 19 2017 08:37 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

themetfairy wrote: While this is not baseball-related, D-Dad will be consulting with a surgeon at the Hospital for Special Surgery on Monday. Last month he had a fight with a kayak, and the kayak won big time. Between a damaged labrum and a fracture in the shoulder, he's going to need to be put back together, and it's way more complicated a procedure than what can be done in Suburgatory. At least Ray Ramirez will be 3,000 miles away from the City on Monday.... Tomorrow D-Dad is having shoulder surgery at The Hospital For Special Surgery. I'm hoping to take a photo of him and Mr. Met in the recovery room, giving the camera the middle finger.

themetfairy Jun 20 2017 10:57 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Arthroscopic surgery was a success, likely because Ray Ramirez is 3,000 miles away.

Ashie62 Jun 22 2017 06:00 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

themetfairy wrote: Arthroscopic surgery was a success, likely because Ray Ramirez is 3,000 miles away. Congrats, and probably lol.

MFS62 Jun 22 2017 06:19 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Wish him a speedy recovery. We need some healthy arms in the bullpen. Later

Ashie62 Jun 26 2017 01:58 AM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Conforto's x-rays are negative. Diagnosed as a contusion.

dgwphotography Jun 30 2017 01:43 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Littlest DGW is on DL after surgery to repair front and rear labral tears in her left shoulder. So no dancing for about 6 months... She posed for this the night before her surgery. She's a tough kid...

Ashie62 Jun 30 2017 05:03 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Get well!

Edgy MD Jul 24 2017 03:38 AM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Noah Syndergaard amazingly owns up to the idea that his bulking up is probably a part of why he's not playing baseball right now. $$ MONEY Quote $$ wrote: I realize now how messed up my body was, and I’m working hard to get it back to normal.

41Forever Jul 24 2017 10:33 AM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Rosario expected back today after missing the last six games -- and visiting the hospital -- because of stomach ailments.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 24 2017 08:33 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Zack Wheelie to the DL with a "stress reaction"

41Forever Jul 24 2017 08:43 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Zack Wheelie to the DL with a "stress reaction" The heck is a stress reaction? Gsellman's been out a month with that hammie. Any word about him inching closer to returning?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 24 2017 08:55 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Dunno about Gselly. The Pill-Man is back

themetfairy Jul 24 2017 08:55 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

A stress reaction is a precursor to a stress fracture. Think of it as a stress fracture caught at a very early stage.

Frayed Knot Jul 24 2017 09:04 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Zack Wheelie to the DL with a "stress reaction" Because, why not.

Edgy MD Jul 24 2017 09:07 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

I remember when my old man used to have stress reactions. Whoo, boy, you didn't want to be in the room for one of those.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 25 2017 04:16 AM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Bad things happen when you let stress reactions fester.

Lefty Specialist Aug 24 2017 08:13 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Jeez. Conforto with the dislocated shoulder on a swing. What's next....locusts?

Ashie62 Aug 24 2017 09:37 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Pop shoulder in, administer meds and rest. He'll be ok. The Mets should wrap the few valuable assets they have in cotton til 2018.

themetfairy Aug 24 2017 10:28 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Unless he injured his labrum and glenoid, like D-Dad did in May. The good news is that the Hospital for Special Surgery is really good at repairing that kind of injury.

Ashie62 Aug 24 2017 10:38 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Glad D-Dad is healed, lets hope for the same for Mikey.

smg58 Aug 24 2017 10:52 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Lefty Specialist wrote: Jeez. Conforto with the dislocated shoulder on a swing. What's next....locusts? I'm pretty sure the locusts already happened. What comes next?

Frayed Knot Aug 24 2017 11:11 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Well it's not like Wheeler and Pill and Matz were all declared out for the season this week ... oh wait!

Zvon Aug 24 2017 11:20 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Holy crapoli. Just heard about this. Didn't believe it and came here to see. I still find it hard to believe.

RealityChuck Aug 25 2017 01:13 AM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

At this point, only three position players from the opening day roster haven't been on the DL -- and all three have been traded. Twelve pitchers have started for the Mets this year. Only four have avoided the DL -- Degrom, Montero, Flexen, and Tyler Pill. I thought 2009 was bad, but this is a disaster.

Ashie62 Aug 25 2017 01:34 AM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Epic

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 25 2017 02:24 AM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

RealityChuck wrote: At this point, only three position players from the opening day roster haven't been on the DL -- and all three have been traded. Twelve pitchers have started for the Mets this year. Only four have avoided the DL -- Degrom, Montero, Flexen, and Tyler Pill. I thought 2009 was bad, but this is a disaster. Pill had surgery the other day.

RealityChuck Aug 25 2017 02:36 AM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: RealityChuck wrote: At this point, only three position players from the opening day roster haven't been on the DL -- and all three have been traded. Twelve pitchers have started for the Mets this year. Only four have avoided the DL -- Degrom, Montero, Flexen, and Tyler Pill. I thought 2009 was bad, but this is a disaster. Pill had surgery the other day. Man, you can't tell the DL list without a scorecard.

Edgy MD Aug 25 2017 02:59 AM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

I like that, in the age of ballplayers modeled on superheroes, the two ectomorphs—Blevins and deGrom—are the only guys to remain with the team the whole season.

Centerfield Aug 25 2017 04:21 AM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Torn posterior capsule. Any word on recovery time for surgery?

Centerfield Aug 25 2017 01:49 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Metsblog says 3-6 months recovery in the event of surgery. Other papers are saying it could be as long as 9-12 months. Seems like a huge discrepancy in projections.

Vic Sage Aug 25 2017 03:10 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

i have to admit that upon hearing this, i literally laughed out loud. You have to appreciate the biblical scale of how disastrous this season is turning out. Locusts? It looks like we're soon going to see the death of our first born.

Centerfield Aug 25 2017 03:29 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

themetfairy wrote: Unless he injured his labrum and glenoid, like D-Dad did in May. The good news is that the Hospital for Special Surgery is really good at repairing that kind of injury. What was D-Dad's recovery time?

Ashie62 Aug 25 2017 06:30 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Torn capsule does not sound good. The aliens will be after our women and children next.

Ashie62 Aug 25 2017 06:33 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Dr. David Chao offers some optimistic thoughts on Conforto in the light of what appears to be a very serious injury. [url]http://www.nj.com/mets/index.ssf/2017/08/mets_michael_conforto_shoulder_surgery_is_an_optio.html#incart_river_index

bmfc1 Aug 25 2017 07:15 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

And Puma has a guy with pessimistic thoughts: [tweet:v5n40d5n]https://twitter.com/NYPost_Mets/status/901157425058910210[/tweet:v5n40d5n]

Frayed Knot Aug 25 2017 08:03 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

So according to a whole host of people, some of whom are doctors, some of whom are not, some of whom have spoken to doctors but none of which have actually examined Conforto, this could either be a long rehab or a shorter one depending on things we don't know yet and aren't going to know because none of those commenting on these things are going to examine Conforto. But we'll be back to bring you more details as they remain unavailable.

Ashie62 Aug 25 2017 10:43 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

We're screwed, again.

Edgy MD Aug 25 2017 11:36 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

I don't know, but it's sort of why I'm slow to target offseason acquisitions. Lots can change over the remaining weeks.

Ashie62 Aug 26 2017 12:40 AM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Its' just too early to target much.

Rockin' Doc Aug 26 2017 04:31 AM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

I don't know. it seems to me that the Mets should target upgrading their strength and conditioning staff.

cooby Aug 26 2017 06:00 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Cepedes on DL according to my Fantasy League

seawolf17 Aug 26 2017 06:35 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

cooby wrote: Cepedes on DL according to my Fantasy League Even in our fantasies, these guys are hurt.

Ashie62 Aug 26 2017 06:47 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Cespedes on the ten day. He hurt his "good" hamstring. Likely to end his season. [url]http://www.nj.com/mets/index.ssf/2017/08/mets_yoenis_cespedes_likely_out_for_season_will_he.html#incart_river_index

Edgy MD Aug 28 2017 08:21 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Harvey set to start Friday. HARVEY!

cooby Aug 28 2017 08:57 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Can Thor be far behind? It will surely be a breath of fresh air to have someone back from the DL to root for.

Lefty Specialist Aug 29 2017 01:07 AM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

David Wright has shut down his rehab due to recurring shoulder pain. Oh well.

Edgy MD Aug 29 2017 03:54 AM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Yeah, what a mess. [tweet:2173hypz]https://twitter.com/AnthonyDiComo/status/902317511865139200[/tweet:2173hypz]

Nymr83 Aug 29 2017 05:00 AM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Edgy MD wrote: Harvey set to start Friday. HARVEY! ESPN announces Harvey will be skipped against the Astros as his name bears an unfortunate similarity to a Hurricane and may upset Houston residents.

MFS62 Aug 29 2017 12:23 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Nymr83 wrote: Edgy MD wrote: Harvey set to start Friday. HARVEY! ESPN announces Harvey will be skipped against the Astros as his name bears an unfortunate similarity to a Hurricane and may upset Houston residents. BOC. Later

Benjamin Grimm Aug 29 2017 12:31 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

He should just change his name to "Shirley"

MFS62 Aug 29 2017 12:46 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Benjamin Grimm wrote: He should just change his name to "Shirley" NO! I heard a report on radio a few days ago (WCBS?) about a study that found that deaths from storms named after women were three times higher than from those named after men. The study covered that last ten tears. One conclusion was that we think of women being "gentler and nicer" than men, so the public doesn't believe the warnings are as serious when the storm is named after a woman and tend to disregard them. Keep the name Harvey, please. Later

Edgy MD Aug 29 2017 01:16 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

We should name them after meaner women. Meanwhile, that's going to be it for Wright, isn't it?

MFS62 Aug 29 2017 01:25 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Edgy MD wrote: Meanwhile, that's going to be it for Wright, isn't it? It sounds like it will be. But there's that "exam in New York". Or is that just an echo from the past? Either way, it sounds like that's it for this year. Later

Benjamin Grimm Aug 29 2017 01:41 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

He's definitely shut it down for 2017. I think he plans to see what the doctor says before he makes any decisions for 2018. David's pattern has been to rest and rehab for months, and then play for a few days, and then rest and rehab for months. I would fully understand if he didn't want to get on that merry-go-round again.

Frayed Knot Aug 29 2017 01:44 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Hard to judge seeing as how I don't think we've ever gotten a clear explanation of what it is that's wrong with his shoulder. Is it related to the back/neck stuff? Totally separate? A problem that can be fixed by something other than rest and rehab? Is that his only remaining obstacle?

Ashie62 Aug 29 2017 06:54 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Edgy MD wrote: Yeah, what a mess. [tweet]https://twitter.com/AnthonyDiComo/status/902317511865139200[/tweet] Too far to come back David. Thank you for being a Met.

themetfairy Sep 03 2017 08:37 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Just out of curiosity, would the rules allow Noah Syndergaard to pitch a rehab game this week with Binghamton during their playoff series?

Benjamin Grimm Sep 03 2017 08:42 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

I think so, yes. Unless things have changed. But I remember instances in the past where rehabbing big leaguers have played in minor league playoff games. It doesn't seem fair, but it appears to be allowed.

themetfairy Sep 03 2017 08:46 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Cool - unfair or not, it would be fun to see him in action down here.

cooby Sep 03 2017 09:15 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

We could think of it as divine intervention for Binghamton. Unless he sucks :/

Ashie62 Sep 03 2017 09:17 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Did someone break a thumb typing?

G-Fafif Sep 04 2017 12:38 AM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Rosario right index finger bruised, either Saturday night or for a while, depending on whether you believe Rosario, Collins or the whispering wind.

dgwphotography Sep 04 2017 03:11 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

David Wright will have surgery on his right rotator cuff, and T.J. Rivera will undergo Tommy John surgery.

Lefty Specialist Sep 04 2017 03:47 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

dgwphotography wrote: David Wright will have surgery on his right rotator cuff, and T.J. Rivera will undergo Tommy John surgery. Jeez, they didn't notice this when he had trouble throwing this spring? In any case, David, please hang them up. It's time.

Ashie62 Sep 04 2017 04:23 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

David is becoming an example of "you have to scrape the uniforms off of them" to retire. Geez, he's missed two full seasons. I'm more concerned about Conforto's surgery. Johan Santana had that surgery, albeit anterior. There is nothing routine about Micheal's recovery.

Edgy MD Sep 04 2017 05:59 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Infielders getting pitching surgery. Curious! Josh Edgin also ending his season with arthroscopic surgery on his knee. He's off the roster and will be a minor league free agent at the end of the season, so that could well be the end of the Metly road for him. His demotion was surprising. He was Edgin, sure, but he's currently eleventh on the 2017 Mets in bWAR.

G-Fafif Sep 07 2017 08:04 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Flores out for the year from his Marcia Brady injury.

Benjamin Grimm Sep 07 2017 08:14 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

The month of September is offering opportunities for the few remaining players to get what could be a rare chance at Schaefer glory.

G-Fafif Sep 07 2017 08:20 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Benjamin Grimm wrote: The month of September is offering opportunities for the few remaining players to get what could be a rare chance at Schaefer glory. Brian Stokes retired too soon. Assuming he retired.

bmfc1 Sep 07 2017 08:23 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

G-Fafif wrote: Flores out for the year from his Marcia Brady injury. Football and hockey players are laughing at this news.

G-Fafif Sep 08 2017 06:50 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Swelling reportedly down on Rosario's finger, still day to day...as are we all.

Edgy MD Sep 15 2017 08:57 PM Re: It Cuts Like a Knife: Injuries and Rehab in 2017

Goeddel getting treated for dizziness and blurred vision. Syndergaard expected to throw a pen in the next few days and then maybe a game next week. Xorge Carillo, to judge by social media, seems to be honeymooning in Greece. Not cool when your team needs a catcher, man.