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Mary Tyler Moore, 1936-2017

themetfairy Jan 25 2017 07:48 PM

RIP to Mary Tyler Moore

Mets Willets Point Jan 25 2017 07:51 PM Re: Guess who died in 2017

RIP to Mary Tyler Moore Oh, man.... :(

Benjamin Grimm Jan 25 2017 07:57 PM Re: Guess who died in 2017

G-Fafif Jan 25 2017 08:16 PM Re: Guess who died in 2017

[youtube:1w70uwdq]8sIRlGnt2zQ[/youtube:1w70uwdq]

Lefty Specialist Jan 25 2017 08:21 PM Re: Guess who died in 2017

Oh man. My first TV crush.

Benjamin Grimm Jan 25 2017 08:24 PM Re: Guess who died in 2017

If everyone gets one "America's Sweetheart", Mary Tyler Moore was mine.

cooby Jan 25 2017 10:50 PM Re: Guess who died in 2017

She was the real deal. To this day, when I need cheered up, I watch an MTM show on youtube. One leads to another. I loved that woman. She was a good role model for girls in the 70s who needed to suddenly start wondering if being a housewife was passe. She was a role model for diabetics like my dad. She was sweet, pretty and funny. I loved her hair. I loved her clothes. I LOVED her laugh. She reminds me of my cousin Barb. Can she please have her own thread?

MFS62 Jan 26 2017 12:46 AM Re: Mary Tyler Moore, 1936-2017

Cooby, I feel sad for most of the reasons you mentioned. RIP, Mary. Later

Edgy MD Jan 26 2017 01:09 AM Re: Mary Tyler Moore, 1936-2017

At the height of Jaws-mania, my brother got one of those books from the catalog you order from in school, called 1,001 Shark Jokes. So one night, shortly after it arrives, we're taking turns reading it, like 10 jokes from him, handoff, 10 jokes from me. It was dreadful, full of forced puns, and rehashed Vaudeville dust-gatherers. "When does an old shark hunter retire? When he runs out of old sharks to hunt!" It alternated between jokes that weren't funny and jokes that I didn't get, until my brother explained it to me, and then weren't funny. But what did we know? We were kids. Funny was a religion. If this book said that these were supposed to be funny, we believed we must have a good source of funniness that must be respected. And it was Jaws inspired. Everything was sharks this and Jaws that. How could a Jaws knockoff steer us wrong? We plowed on. Until, about 60% of the way through, he gets to the following joke: "What's a shark's favorite TV show? Mary Tyler No-More!" I stared dumbly at him. He said a word or two trying to explain it, but then he stared back at me, as the epiphany hit both of us at the same time. This shitty book sucked! He threw it against the wall and we didn't say anything for a bit, embarrassed at the all the unfunny shit we had been pretending was high comedy just minutes earlier. This isn't really much of a Mary Tyler Moore memory. In fact, about that time, my brother and I would have been in the minority, being forced to turn to our 10-inch black-and-white backup television to watch S.W.A.T. on Channel 7 while the rest of the family watched The Mary Tyler Moore Show on CBS. But somehow, while we were stubbornly insisting that something stupid was, in fact, awesome, it took the indisputable dignity of Mary Tyler Moore to wake us up to the fact that, no, funny is funny, but sometimes stupid is just stupid.

d'Kong76 Jan 26 2017 01:14 AM Re: Mary Tyler Moore, 1936-2017

Few could take a nothing day and suddenly make it all seem worthwhile... RIP

Fman99 Jan 26 2017 01:53 AM Re: Mary Tyler Moore, 1936-2017

Before my time, for the most part. I can't recall watching any show that she was on with any regularity, even in the syndication years.

cooby Jan 26 2017 02:18 AM Re: Mary Tyler Moore, 1936-2017

Thanks for giving her her own space. For those of you too young too remember, just watch a ep or two from the first season. Magic.

cooby Jan 26 2017 02:19 AM Re: Mary Tyler Moore, 1936-2017

And do you know what? I've been off facebook since November...but came back to mourn her. She's worth it

themetfairy Jan 26 2017 03:07 AM Re: Mary Tyler Moore, 1936-2017

I'll offer a slightly different memory of Mary Tyler Moore. Of course I grew up watching her comedic television roles, but in 1980 D-Dad and I saw her on Broadway in a revival of Whose Life Is It Anyway? It was an impressive dramatic performance, and a treat seeing her on stage. RIP Miss Moore - few stars shined as brightly as you did.

Edgy MD Jan 26 2017 03:39 AM Re: Mary Tyler Moore, 1936-2017

Obscure MTM Memory #2: Elvis Presley films generally ranged from awful to almost average. But they all made money. The Colonel knew how to work a balance sheet and by keeping costs low and getting the city where the film is set to help underwrite the production, he had a formula for making money from nothing. But in 1969, Universal gave Elvis a chance to break out of the cycle of farce that had come to define him, casting him in Change of Habit, a big feature they had planned to be a vehicle for Mary Tyler Moore. Set in a failing inner city Catholic parish coping with the changes of Vatican II, Moore played a spunky leader of three nuns shedding their habits to work among the poor citizens as equals. The King played the good-hearted-but-earth-bound doctor to the poor that becomes her partner and rival, sporting a King-sized love interest in the uncloistered Moore. If you think it sounded awful, it was much worse. It was disastrous. Career-wreckingly bad. I've seen it piecemeal on Youtube and every scene is embarrassing. It was supposed to be her jump to big-screen leading lady and his jump to not-stupid films. Instead, his 31st film in 14 years became and his dead last (not counting a pair of concert films). She wouldn't star or even appear in another film for 11 years, when she was nominated for the Academy Award for Ordinary People. A lot of great things happened in 1969. This film wasn't one of them. But, you know, you adjust. Mary Tyler Moore returned to TV, followed Lucy's example by starting her own independent production company, and starred in one of the most beloved sitcoms of all time. In fact, Change of Habit featured Ed Asner in a supporting role, so one might surmise that she had the headiness to scout him for her show. Elvis should would have been lucky to have done half as well. [youtube]KGtxHEXiTQ0[/youtube]

batmagadanleadoff Jan 26 2017 04:10 AM Re: Mary Tyler Moore, 1936-2017

Edgy MD wrote: Obscure MTM Memory #2: Elvis Presley films generally ranged .... I remember once reading that MTM was the only leading lady in an Elvis movie not to sleep with "The King".

Lefty Specialist Jan 26 2017 01:10 PM Re: Mary Tyler Moore, 1936-2017

It's impossible not to laugh when you watch this. One of the best TV bits ever. [youtube:fjozh8jk]92I04DkMEps[/youtube:fjozh8jk]

Edgy MD Jan 26 2017 03:55 PM Re: Mary Tyler Moore, 1936-2017

I was wondering if anybody would pay tribute by breaking into an inappropriate laughter fit at her funeral.

d'Kong76 Jan 26 2017 04:47 PM Re: Mary Tyler Moore, 1936-2017

I dvr'd the Chuckles episode a week or two ago on Sundance. Wish I didn't delete it now. What was that song with Mary Tyler Moore in the lyrics 15 years ago (I'm bad with time, may be less or moore) - catchy tune.

Edgy MD Jan 26 2017 04:49 PM Re: Mary Tyler Moore, 1936-2017

Man, 22 years. [youtube:3uvrnj3w]kemivUKb4f4[/youtube:3uvrnj3w]

d'Kong76 Jan 26 2017 04:53 PM Re: Mary Tyler Moore, 1936-2017

Cool, I knew it was Weezer in the back of my head. I have the CD, duh...

Mets Willets Point Jan 26 2017 05:54 PM Re: Mary Tyler Moore, 1936-2017

I started having insomnia around the age of 10 (long story) so the back to back episodes of "Mary Tyler Moore" (followed by back-to-back episodes of "The Bob Newhart Show") were my comfort on those long, lonely nights.

Edgy MD Jan 26 2017 06:55 PM Re: Mary Tyler Moore, 1936-2017

Obscure Mary Tyler Moore episode #3. It relates to those years referenced above when back-to-back episodes of The Mary Tyler Moore Show ran from 2:00-3:00 on WNBC-TV, New York, Channel 4. I graduated into a recession. So myself and a lot of my colleagues went through some false starts getting our careers off the ground. Our stupidity and lack of direction certainly were contributing factors too. But I had a friend named Fink who was a good guy when you were confused about direction. He'd give you a push in the ass if you needed it, or an idea for a new field to look into if you needed it. He inspired me to go back to school and it changed my life. Fink himself was working the evening shift at WFAN shortly after college, which was hilarious because he was the king of prank-calling them when he was in college. We pick up Tony one day around one, but it's obvious he had just gotten out of bed, and would have been down longer hadn't we come for him. He climbs in all groggy and smelling funky and Fink says, "You watched the second episode." "What?" "That second, 2:30 episode of Mary Tyler Moore. You watched it didn't you?" "I'm unemployed, man. Why you busting my balls?" "Edgy's unemployed. When you're watching that second episode of Mary Tyler Moore, you've passed from unemployed into a new state. You've become hard-core unemployable. Congratulations man." "Fuck you, man." "Yeah, whatever, how's Murray and Marie's marriage doing?" But it was a pick-up for me (I was suddenly somehow morally superior because I had ... gotten to bed before 2:30?) and a kick in the pants for Tony that strangely helped launch us both back in the workforce within a few weeks.

Mets Willets Point Jan 26 2017 08:01 PM Re: Mary Tyler Moore, 1936-2017

Glad to know I was in the company of Tony.

Mets Willets Point Jan 26 2017 08:02 PM Re: Mary Tyler Moore, 1936-2017

But you were seriously messed up if you were still awake when "The Lucy Show" came on.

Benjamin Grimm Jan 26 2017 08:05 PM Re: Mary Tyler Moore, 1936-2017

The Uni-Watch page has an interesting video about the making of the Mary Tyler Moore Show opening credits. Was Mary left-handed or right-handed? She throws her cap in the air with her right hand, but at that Twins game she throws out the first pitch lefty. (Maybe she was just pretending to be Johan Santana?)

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jan 26 2017 08:15 PM Re: Mary Tyler Moore, 1936-2017

Bats right.

Zvon Jan 27 2017 03:05 PM Re: Mary Tyler Moore, 1936-2017

Some people, you just don't imagine they'd ever die. The life force of MTM was so strong, the light that she created, you could never foresee it going out. :( RIP Mary Tyler Moore.

Vic Sage Jan 27 2017 04:51 PM Re: Mary Tyler Moore, 1936-2017

And having gone, she takes a piece of my adolescence with her... and not one of the many shitty pieces, mind you, but one of the good pieces. I don't have many of those left to spare. By the way, where did MTM and DvDyke end up in our sitcom rankings poll?

cooby Jan 27 2017 04:56 PM Re: Mary Tyler Moore, 1936-2017

If we did one of those, I missed it! (or forgot about it) We should do another!

Frayed Knot Jan 27 2017 05:21 PM Re: Mary Tyler Moore, 1936-2017

Vic Sage wrote: By the way, where did MTM and DvDyke end up in our sitcom rankings poll? DVD lost out to SEINFELD in the round of 16 (much to your dismay). -- http://archives.thecranepool.net/15500/f2_t15533.shtml MTM bowed out to ALL IN THE FAMILY one round later in the quarter-finals -- http://archives.thecranepool.net/15500/f2_t15546.shtml

cooby Jan 27 2017 05:23 PM Re: Mary Tyler Moore, 1936-2017

Figgers I'd completely forget! I'll have fun reading this again now though

Frayed Knot Jan 27 2017 05:37 PM Re: Mary Tyler Moore, 1936-2017

Here was the introductory/control thread that ran the length of the contest -- http://archives.thecranepool.net/15400/f2_t15442.shtml Also a pretty funny thread overall.

Edgy MD Jan 27 2017 05:39 PM Re: Mary Tyler Moore, 1936-2017

An interesting find from one of those links: TheOldMole wrote: Went for Barbara Colby's memory and MTM. Did TheOldMole know Barbara Colby? That's just the sort of person I imagine he would have known. Barbara was a bicoastal actress who starred in New York in Shakespeare and Greek classics as well as high-minded higher fare, but would jet out to LA to do scene-stealing supporting work on TV, often as a tough New Yorker. She played Mary's prostitute friend in a couple of MTM episodes, and probably had another guest role on the show as well, and was part of the original cast for Phyllis. She was killed in her prime in an LA drive-by shooting that still remains unsolved.

Benjamin Grimm Feb 17 2017 03:08 PM Re: Mary Tyler Moore, 1936-2017

David Hinckley on America's Sweethearts And on Laura Petrie

cooby Feb 17 2017 09:29 PM Re: Mary Tyler Moore, 1936-2017

Yes Mary Richards was wonderful but Laura Petrie was sublime

Benjamin Grimm Feb 17 2017 09:37 PM Re: Mary Tyler Moore, 1936-2017

I agree with that.