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We Are, In Fact, Eating More Beats 2017
G-Fafif Feb 06 2017 05:44 PM |
Kicking off this season's beatwriting thread (if one doesn't already exist) with shocking news: Adam Rubin getting out of the game, per his own tweeting. Heading to PR like the guy in the hat who works in retailing. No replacement named.
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Edgy MD Feb 06 2017 06:02 PM Re: We Are, In Fact, Eating More Beats 2017 |
Wow.
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Ceetar Feb 06 2017 06:10 PM Re: We Are, In Fact, Eating More Beats 2017 |
And welcome to
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Ceetar Feb 06 2017 06:13 PM Re: We Are, In Fact, Eating More Beats 2017 |
Meanwhile Maria moves on
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d'Kong76 Feb 06 2017 06:17 PM Re: We Are, In Fact, Eating More Beats 2017 |
Best to El Rubino. Stop in and visit us!
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Feb 06 2017 06:33 PM Re: We Are, In Fact, Eating More Beats 2017 |
Perhaps Tracky (recently laid off by the Snooze) gets the Rubin seat next. I guess this makes Marc Carig the dean of Met Beaters
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Frayed Knot Feb 06 2017 06:48 PM Re: We Are, In Fact, Eating More Beats 2017 |
Just the fact that Rubin would often take the rare MLB off day and use it to head up to Binghamton to check out the AA squad was shirley a pace not to be kept up for long.
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Edgy MD Feb 06 2017 07:10 PM Re: We Are, In Fact, Eating More Beats 2017 |
James Wagner, who took the Times beat over from Bob Seger mid-season last year, is a native of Nicaragua and a native Spanish speaker. He made his bones doing a (terrible) crime story while he was still in school.
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Ashie62 Feb 06 2017 07:47 PM Re: We Are, In Fact, Eating More Beats 2017 |
Sad, Rubin seemed like one of us in a similar way that Gary Cohen does.
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G-Fafif Feb 06 2017 08:11 PM Re: We Are, In Fact, Eating More Beats 2017 |
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I think Anthony DiComo of mlb.com has Carig, who joined in 2012, "beat" by a couple of years; he'd already been around a while when Marty Noble did our last Amazin' Tuesday (which was a Monday) in 2010 and said "nobody writes a better game story than Tony DiComo," his colleague at the time. Not sure when Mike Puma came along for the Post, but it feels as if he's been there quite a while. Throw in Kristie Ackert and it feels as if there is some genuine traction among these people after so many came and went. But institutional memory takes a hit with Adam's departure. Wagner's been good, and Guardado, in the limited sample I took in, did fine work. Ehalt is weirdly prickly on Twitter but writes well.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Feb 06 2017 08:42 PM Re: We Are, In Fact, Eating More Beats 2017 |
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Shoulda looked up last year's thread.
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Edgy MD Feb 06 2017 08:53 PM Re: We Are, In Fact, Eating More Beats 2017 |
Tim Rohan's now working his night moves over at The MMQB, which looks like Sports Illustrated spinoff that's taking the Deadspin approach on an NFL-only level.
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Edgy MD Feb 06 2017 09:10 PM Re: We Are, In Fact, Eating More Beats 2017 |
That day Adam Rubin joined the Pool.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Feb 07 2017 03:00 AM Re: We Are, In Fact, Eating More Beats 2017 |
It's weird to envision the Metbeat without him, and him without constant, CONSTANT streams of Metly scoops.
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Ceetar Feb 07 2017 03:32 AM Re: We Are, In Fact, Eating More Beats 2017 |
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I somehow missed this (I don't even remember Seger either) which probably doesn't bode well for him adding anything of value, but I followed him and Abbey, which means I'm +2 beat 'guys' which I'm sure will annoy me when they all tweet the same stuff so I'm sure at least one will get the axe by May
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Feb 08 2017 04:28 AM Re: We Are, In Fact, Eating More Beats 2017 |
Kevin Kernan's not a beater but a columnist but he's down at Spring Training early, filing stuff on Seth Lugo's disc golf game in an attempt to step into that Ruubin Vacuum. http://nypost.com/2017/02/06/inside-mlb ... g-met/amp/
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G-Fafif Feb 08 2017 06:09 PM Re: We Are, In Fact, Eating More Beats 2017 |
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Seger wasn't much on getting trade scoops during the day, but he was like a rock when it came to night moves. Since shifting to the Dodger beat, he's still the same working those Hollywood nights...or so I hear.
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G-Fafif Feb 17 2017 04:51 PM Re: We Are, In Fact, Eating More Beats 2017 |
For those who missed it, Adam Rubin is now SID (or some such PR title) for the NYIT Bears athletic program.
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G-Fafif Mar 10 2017 12:46 PM Re: We Are, In Fact, Eating More Beats 2017 |
Adam lets it all hang out for The 30.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 10 2017 01:13 PM Re: We Are, In Fact, Eating More Beats 2017 |
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Holy God, that was great. Roobs should write a book.
You don't say. I was also reading and nodding all the way; I've been trying to hang in newsmedia for 25+ years and can say the finacial models, conditions and support for what we do has never been worse at the same time that the hunger for the work has probably never been higher. I'd say in general I will cop to being of those guys perpetually dissatisfied with work but things really do suck today and I need a new career.
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Ceetar Mar 10 2017 09:00 PM Re: We Are, In Fact, Eating More Beats 2017 |
Rubin is really just that Rovell guy for the Mets. or was. or whatever. I'd forgotten that in the years since I paid any attention to him.
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Edgy MD Mar 15 2017 01:39 AM Re: We Are, In Fact, Eating More Beats 2017 |
Jared Diamond comes home with a fascinating scoop on the shadowy, underground world of independent batting coaches and the pupils they rescued from obcsurity and helped turn into All Stars.
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Edgy MD Mar 19 2017 10:12 PM Re: We Are, In Fact, Eating More Beats 2017 |
Kevin Kernan breaks the open secret that one of the ushers at First Data Field is Sixers semi-great Steve Mix.
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Frayed Knot Mar 19 2017 10:21 PM Re: We Are, In Fact, Eating More Beats 2017 |
A small item in one of the papers recently said that WFAN is likely to be cutting back on travel assignments for their longtime NYM reporter Ed Coleman (and also Sweeny Murti on the NYY side).
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G-Fafif Mar 30 2017 04:21 PM Re: We Are, In Fact, Eating More Beats 2017 |
Sign of the times: Adam is now @AdamRubinMedia and has had to relinquish his Twitter check mark.
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Ceetar Mar 30 2017 04:34 PM Re: We Are, In Fact, Eating More Beats 2017 |
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I'm sure he'll get it back, but has to be re verified. They pretty much verify anyone these days. If you submit the form they'll definitely verify you.
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Edgy MD Apr 04 2017 08:51 PM Re: We Are, In Fact, Eating More Beats 2017 |
That didn't last long. Adam Rubin has taken a side gig, blogging for SNY/Metsblog.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 04 2017 08:55 PM Re: We Are, In Fact, Eating More Beats 2017 |
That guy is a maniac. He needs a good dose of wife-kids-and-mortgage.
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Benjamin Grimm Apr 04 2017 08:55 PM Re: We Are, In Fact, Eating More Beats 2017 |
This was in the plan for a while. He mentioned it in the article that G-Fafif linked earlier in this thread, on March 10.
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Edgy MD Apr 04 2017 09:19 PM Re: We Are, In Fact, Eating More Beats 2017 |
I had no idea.
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Ceetar Apr 04 2017 10:56 PM Re: We Are, In Fact, Eating More Beats 2017 |
and spoiling games and trolling I'm sure.
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G-Fafif Apr 05 2017 07:47 PM Re: We Are, In Fact, Eating More Beats 2017 |
Attended the PitchTalks event in Brooklyn last night. The featured attraction was Hank Azaria, promoting his new IFC show Brockmire, whose pilot was screened. It's about a minor league baseball announcer who is climbing back from his fall from grace, to put it mildly. It was probably funnier because it was on an enormous screen shown in the company of a couple of hundred people with the star and creator on stage. But it was funny on its own merit. Premieres tonight at 10. DVR it if the Mets game is still on.
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Ceetar Apr 05 2017 08:16 PM Re: We Are, In Fact, Eating More Beats 2017 |
I've always been intrigued by those but between kids and that it actually costs money to hear people that generally share their writing on the internet already, I've never pulled the trigger.
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Frayed Knot Apr 05 2017 08:40 PM Re: We Are, In Fact, Eating More Beats 2017 |
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Heard Azaria on a radio interview a few days ago. When asked if he could/would-like-to-be a real baseball announcer he admitted that he's more of a Mets fan than he is an all-purpose baseball fan. IOW, knows that O'Flaherty is still in the league because he saw him pitch on Monday but likely not as up to date on the rest of the NL. But then also claimed to record and watch 'Daily News Live' on a regular basis. "Hey", he said, "I only work three hours a week".
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Benjamin Grimm Apr 05 2017 08:46 PM Re: We Are, In Fact, Eating More Beats 2017 |
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It's like he's my brother from another mother!
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 05 2017 08:49 PM Re: We Are, In Fact, Eating More Beats 2017 |
I never thought I'd see the day when a Hollywood Celebrity has a better memory of ex-Mets than I do. I saw you guys discussing OFlaherty as an ex-Met the other day and I was like "when?"
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Frayed Knot Apr 06 2017 12:20 AM Re: We Are, In Fact, Eating More Beats 2017 |
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Ichiro is like that; can speak English but chooses not to. His inevitable HoF induction will be interesting as it'll be the first time 99% of baseball ever hears him speak. Of course he's also vowed to play until he's at least 50 so many of those who watched him play will no longer be alive.
Dealing with Met fans has got to be one of the tougher parts of that job.
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G-Fafif Apr 06 2017 05:24 AM Re: We Are, In Fact, Eating More Beats 2017 |
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Keyser was professional with a touch of mischief. She talked about the series she wrote on the smuggling of Cuban ballplayers but also answered a deadly serious audience question about pressure from the business side to write things a certain way rather playfully before admitting, no, nobody's bothered her.
The dealing is something the previous generation of beat writers didn't have to dirty their hands with. These guys interact social-mediatically, if you will, probably because they have to, probably because on some level they enjoy it until they don't. DiComo has been a Met writer all his working life, it seems (been with MLB.com for a decade, having started as an intern, covering the Mets all along) and seems to accept Mets fans as the breed we/they are. There's a still a touch of the outsider perspective in Carig, which is probably helpful. They both hung out and mingled later, as did everybody else, save for Azaria, though he appeared approachable during one of the intermissions.
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Benjamin Grimm Apr 07 2017 12:39 PM Re: We Are, In Fact, Eating More Beats 2017 |
Bill Madden is back with the Daily News.
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Edgy MD Apr 07 2017 01:25 PM Re: We Are, In Fact, Eating More Beats 2017 |
I hadn't realized Bill Madden was on the planet.
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Frayed Knot Apr 07 2017 01:26 PM Re: We Are, In Fact, Eating More Beats 2017 |
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I think if Madden were one of the participants in Elon Musk's mission to Mars we would have heard about it already.
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G-Fafif May 01 2017 08:09 PM Re: We Are, In Fact, Eating More Beats 2017 |
Groping through Twitter for updates as Sandy press conference supposed to have begun, not finding anything new from the crew. Days like this a fan misses Adam Rubin.
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MFS62 May 29 2017 05:41 PM Re: We Are, In Fact, Eating More Beats 2017 |
We're not the only ones concerned with current baseball writing.
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Ceetar May 30 2017 02:25 PM Re: We Are, In Fact, Eating More Beats 2017 |
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This this is the key paragraph:
The Internet creates more noise, and sometimes it's harder to see the signal. But it's there, and it's strong. And the thing about the noise is, sometimes it's not just noise, but someone else signal. You may find tweets about food/dinner annoying, but someone else in the same space enjoys them. There's no more "I can't believe the Times wasted space covering X" because we have unlimited space. There are more great writers out there, it's just less linear. You have to put in the work yourself to find them, they're not automatically the regular columnist at the New York Times. And that's the real key. Previously it was a bit of a tautology, "This guy's the best because he writes for the Times. He writes for the Times because he's the best" There were almost definitely better writers out there that didn't go into sports writing or get the chance, that today could spend a few hours a week on a blog and get noticed.
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