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Where Mets Rank in 2017

Benjamin Grimm
Feb 15 2017 04:16 PM

MANAGER
Terry Collins, entering his seventh season, has a chance to be the first Mets manager to complete seven seasons. Davey Johnson made it a quarter of the way through his seventh season before being fired on May 29, 1990. Bobby Valentine was hired late in the 1996 season and then managed another six full seasons but was fired after the 2002 season. Johnson and Valentine are the only Mets managers to have managed 1,000 games, and Collins looks likely to join that exclusive company.

Barring rainouts, on May 17, 2017, in Arizona for the 41st game of the season, Terry Collins will pass Davey Johnson for most regular-season Mets games managed in a career. For Terry to pass Davey in wins, the Mets would need to win 115 games in 2017. (How great would that be?) Terry needs only 56 wins to pass Bobby Valentine and take possession of second place.

Terry already has more losses than any of his predecessors, with 491.

If the Mets win 86 games in 2017, Terry's overall Mets regular-season record will reach the .500 mark.

If the Mets win 83 games, Terry's winning percentage will nudge ahead of Yogi Berra's.

GAMES
Davey Johnson 1012
Bobby Valentine 1003
Terry Collins 972

WINS
Davey Johnson 595
Bobby Valentine 536
Terry Collins 481

LOSSES
Terry Collins 491
Bobby Valentine 467
Joe Torre 420

WINNING PCT.
(Minimum 200 games managed)
Davey Johnson .588
Willie Randolph .544
Bobby Valentine .534
Bud Harrelson .529
Gil Hodges .523
Yogi Berra .497
Terry Collins .495
Jerry Manuel .489
Joe Frazier .488


BATTING
The Mets have two current players who are at or near the top of the list of career leaders in many offensive categories.

Jose Reyes, currently in 8th place, can move up a few notches on the list of most games played by a Met. David Wright, in second place, is not within reach of Ed Kranepool this year, even if he miraculously manages to play in all 162 games.

A much easier milestone for David is in the At Bats category, where he needs only 4 to become the first Met ever to reach 6,000.

Wright and Reyes are in first and second place in Runs. If David can score 51 runs this year he'd become the first Met to score 1,000 times.

Wright's recent injuries have significantly slowed his attempt to get 2,000 hits. 1,800 is hopefully in reach this year. To get to 1,900, he would need 123 hits. Jose Reyes, meanwhile, needs 51 hits to pass Ed Kranepool and move into second place.

Wright needs 10 doubles to reach 400. Reyes is in a distant second place, with 235.

Wright's assault on Darryl Strawberry's record of 252 home runs has also been stalled the past two years. He had 7 last year. If he gets 11 this year he'll be the Mets Home Run King. Lucas Duda, in 11th place with 108 homers, can move up the list this year. With 17 homers he'd pass Ed Kranepool, Edgardo Alfonzo, Kevin McReynolds, and Todd Hundley and move into 7th place. Also, 11 homers would make Jose Reyes the 13th Met to hit 100.

David Wright, the Mets all-time RBI leader, needs 30 more to reach 1,000. Jose Reyes, in 11th place, with 447, needs 10 more to pass Kevin McReynolds and claim a spot in the top ten. 22 runs batted in will move him ahead of Keith Hernandez.

All-time leader Jose Reyes needs 21 stolen bases to reach 400. David Wright, in fourth place, needs 4 to reach 200 and 7 to pass Howard Johnson and move into third place.

If David Wright gets 55 total bases, he'll extend his Mets career record in that category to 3,000.



GAMES
1. Ed Kranepool 1853
2. David Wright 1583
3. Bud Harrelson 1322
4. Jerry Grote 1235
5. Cleon Jones 1201
6. Howard Johnson 1154
7. Mookie Wilson 1116
8. Jose Reyes 1110
9. Darryl Strawberry 1109
10. Edgardo Alfonzo 1086


AT BATS
1. David Wright 5996
2. Ed Kranepool 5436
3. Jose Reyes 4708


RUNS
1. David Wright 949
2. Jose Reyes 780


HITS
1. David Wright 1777
2. Ed Kranepool 1418
3. Jose Reyes 1368


DOUBLES
1. David Wright 390
2. Jose Reyes 235


HOME RUNS
1. Darryl Strawberry 252
2. David Wright 242
3. Mike Piazza 220
4. Howard Johnson 192
5. Dave Kingman 154
6. Carlos Beltran 149
7. Todd Hundley 124
8. Kevin McReynolds 122
9. Edgardo Alfonzo 120
10. Ed Kranepool 118
11. Lucas Duda 108
12. Carlos Delgado 104
13. George Foster 99
14. Bobby Bonilla 95
15. John Milner 94
16. Cleon Jones 93
17. Gary Carter 89
17. Jose Reyes 89
19. Tommie Agee 82
20. Cliff Floyd 81
21. Keith Hernandez 80
22. Robin Ventura 77
23. Curtis Granderson 76

RUNS BATTED IN
1. David Wright 970
2. Darryl Strawberry 733
3. Mike Piazza 655
4. Howard Johnson 629
5. Ed Kranepool 614
6. Carlos Beltran 559
7. Edgardo Alfonzo 538
8. Cleon Jones 521
9. Keith Hernandez 468
10. Kevin McReynolds 456
11. Jose Reyes 447


STOLEN BASES
1. Jose Reyes 379
2. Mookie Wilson 281
3. Howard Johnson 202
4. David Wright 196


TOTAL BASES
1. David Wright 2945
2. Jose Reyes 2076


PITCHING

In most pitching categories, Tom Seaver and Jerry Koosman racked up totals that no Mets pitcher, other than Dwight Gooden, was ever able to approach. That won't change this year, but there are some opportunites for a few Mets pitchers to advance in a few categories.

Jeurys Familia is in 19th place in games pitched. His likely suspension will prevent him from appearing in as many games as he did last year, but if he gets into 49 games he'll pass ten pitchers and take ninth place.

Matt Harvey (36th place) and Jacob deGrom (40th place) can make significant ground in the Innings Pitched category this year.

DeGrom's 30 wins has him in 35th place, tied with Ray Sadecki. Matt Harvey has 29 wins, tied with Oliver Perez, Nolan Ryan, and Bret Saberhagen. And Noah Syndergaard, with 23 wins, is in 49th place. All three have a chance to pass a number of players and put themselves in better position for next year.

Matt Harvey (19th place), Jacob deGrom (25th place) and Noah Syndergaard (40th place) can expect to climb many slots on the all-time strikeout list.

Harvey needs 18 starts and deGrom needs 24 to reach 100.

Jeurys Familia has 100 saves and is in fifth place. With 8 saves this year, he'd pass Billy Wagner and Jesse Orosco and move into third. Armando Benitez, in second place, will have to wait until at least 2018 before Familia passes him. John Franco, in first place with 276, is way out of reach for the time being.

GAMES
1. John Franco 695
2. Pedro Feliciano 484
3. Tom Seaver 401
4. Jerry Koosman 376
5. Jesse Orosco 372
6. Tug McGraw 361
7. Armando Benitez 333
8. Bobby Parnell 329
9. Aaron Heilman 305
9. Dwight Gooden 305
11. Jeff Innis 288
12. Turk Wendell 285
13. Roger McDowell 280
14. Ron Taylor 269
15. Doug Sisk 263
16. Ron Darling 257
17. Dennis Cook 255
17. Sid Fernandez 255
19. Jeurys Familia 247
20. Craig Swan 229


INNINGS
1. Tom Seaver 3045.2
2. Jerry Koosman 2544.2
3. Dwight Gooden 2169.2
4. Ron Darling 1620.0
5. Sid Fernandez 1584.2
6. Jon Matlack 1448.0
7. Al Leiter 1360.0
8. Craig Swan 1230.2
9. Bobby Jones 1215.2
10. David Cone 1209.1
11. Jon Niese 1079.1
12. Tom Glavine 1005.1
13. Al Jackson 980.2
14. Steve Trachsel 956.1
15. Jack Fisher 931.2
16. Mike Pelfrey 896.1
17. Rick Reed 888.2
18. Tug McGraw 792.2
19. Gary Gentry 789.1
20. Bob Ojeda 764.0
21. Pat Zachry 741.2
22. Ed Lynch 730.1
23. Jim McAndrew 729.2
24. Johan Santana 717.0
25. John Franco 702.2
26. Dillon Gee 679.1
27. R. A. Dickey 616.2
28. Pete Falcone 607.2
29. Ray Sadecki 600.1
30. Jesse Orosco 595.2
31. Bartolo Colon 588.2
32. Frank Viola 566.1
33. John Maine 542.0
34. Bret Saberhagen 524.1
35. Oliver Perez 520.0
36. Matt Harvey 519.2
37. Nolan Ryan 510.0
38. Dave Mlicki 501.1
39. Pedro Martinez 486.2
40. Jacob deGrom 479.1


WINS
1. Tom Seaver 198
2. Dwight Gooden 157
3. Jerry Koosman 140
4. Ron Darling 99
5. Sid Fernandez 98
6. Al Leiter 95
7. Jon Matlack 82
8. David Cone 81
9. Bobby Jones 74
10. Steve Trachsel 66
11. Jon Niese 61
11. Tom Glavine 61
13. Rick Reed 59
13. Craig Swan 59
15. Bob Ojeda 51
16. Mike Pelfrey 50
17. John Franco 48
18. Jesse Orosco 47
18. Tug McGraw 47
20. Johan Santana 46
21. Bartolo Colon 44
22. Al Jackson 43
23. Gary Gentry 41
24. Pat Zachry 41
25. Dillon Gee 40
26. R. A. Dickey 39
26. John Maine 39
28. Frank Viola 38
28. Jack Fisher 38
28. Ed Lynch 38
31. Rick Aguilera 37
32. Jim McAndrew 36
33. Roger McDowell 33
34. Pedro Martinez 32
35. Ray Sadecki 30
35. Jacob deGrom 30
37. Oliver Perez 29
37. Matt Harvey 29
37. Nolan Ryan 29
37. Bret Saberhagen 29
41. Pete Falcone 26
42. Dennis Cook 25
42. Nino Espinosa 25
42. Neil Allen 25
45. Skip Lockwood 24
45. Terry Leach 24
45. Dave Mlicki 24
45. Danny Frisella 24
49. Noah Syndergaard 23


STRIKEOUTS
1. Tom Seaver 2541
2. Dwight Gooden 1875
3. Jerry Koosman 1799
4. Sid Fernandez 1449
5. David Cone 1172
6. Ron Darling 1148
7. Al Leiter 1106
8. Jon Matlack 1023
9. Jon Niese 838
10. Bobby Jones 714
11. Craig Swan 671
12. Tug McGraw 618
13. Johan Santana 607
14. John Franco 592
15. Rick Reed 590
16. Steve Trachsel 580
17. Gary Gentry 563
18. Al Jackson 561
19. Matt Harvey 525
20. Tom Glavine 516
21. Jesse Orosco 506
21. Mike Pelfrey 506
23. Oliver Perez 494
24. Nolan Ryan 493
25. Jacob deGrom 492
26. Dillon Gee 489
27. Jack Fisher 475
28. R. A. Dickey 468
29. John Maine 467
30. Pedro Martinez 464
31. Bob Ojeda 459
32. Armando Benitez 456
33. Bartolo Colon 415
34. Jim McAndrew 408
35. Dave Mlicki 402
36. Aaron Heilman 395
37. Pat Zachry 391
38. Bret Saberhagen 388
39. Frank Viola 387
40. Noah Syndergaard 384
41. Ray Sadecki 380
42. Pete Falcone 379
43. Skip Lockwood 368
44. Rick Aguilera 351
45. Pedro Feliciano 350
46. Glendon Rusch 313


STARTS
1. Tom Seaver 395
2. Jerry Koosman 346
3. Dwight Gooden 303
4. Sid Fernandez 250
5. Ron Darling 241
6. Al Leiter 213
7. Jon Matlack 199
8. Bobby Jones 190
9. Craig Swan 184
10. Jon Niese 179
11. David Cone 169
12. Tom Glavine 164
13. Steve Trachsel 160
14. Mike Pelfrey 149
15. Al Jackson 138
16. Rick Reed 138
17. Jack Fisher 133
18. Gary Gentry 121
19. Pat Zachry 113
20. Dillon Gee 110
21. Bob Ojeda 109
22. Johan Santana 109
23. Jim McAndrew 105
24. Ed Lynch 98
25. John Maine 96
26. Bartolo Colon 95
27. R. A. Dickey 91
28. Oliver Perez 91
29. Pete Falcone 86
30. Frank Viola 82
31. Matt Harvey 82
32. Pedro Martinez 79
33. Jacob deGrom 76


SAVES
1. John Franco 276
2. Armando Benitez 160
3. Jesse Orosco 107
4. Billy Wagner 101
5. Jeurys Familia 100

Edgy MD
Feb 15 2017 04:50 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

Curtis Granderson is 23rd all-time in Metly homers, but still in a position where he'll be catching or tying someone with almost every homer. A 30-homer season from Granderson (which I'd probably sign up for) would get him up to 12th place.

Benjamin Grimm
Feb 15 2017 04:55 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

My apologies to Curtis. I've added him to the list above.

Edgy MD
Feb 15 2017 05:00 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

Not at all. Just an outside observation.

Edgy MD
Feb 16 2017 04:52 AM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

Wright passed Ron Hodges last season, moving into second place in Mets History in the category of

Most Seasons Without Appearing for Any Other Big League Team

Leaving out active players, such as Wright, who are still eligible to disqualify themselves by playing for another team, the list looks like this:

1. Ed Kranepool, of, 1b, ph, 1962-1979: 18 seasons
2. Ron Hodges, c, phi, 1973-1984: 12 seasons
3. __________, rp, 2002-2013: 9 seasons
4. __________, rp, 1987-1993: 7 seasons
T5. __________, rp, 1973-1977: 5 seasons
T5. __________, of, ph, 1974-1979: 5 seasons
T5. __________, ss, 1981-1985: 5 seasons
T5. __________, rp, sp, 2010-2015: 5 seasons
T5. __________, rp, sp, 2000-2004: 5 seasons
10. __________, if, 2011-2014: 4 seasons

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Feb 16 2017 05:31 AM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

3. Feliciano
4. Innis in the Morning

t5 Apodaca, Boisclair, Gardenhire...

Edgy MD
Feb 16 2017 12:14 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

1. Ed Kranepool, of, 1b, ph, 1962-1979: 18 seasons

2. Ron Hodges, c, phi, 1973-1984: 12 seasons

3. [u:2zzvcrba]Pedro Feliciano[/u:2zzvcrba], rp, 2002-2013: 9 seasons

4. [u:2zzvcrba]Jeff Innis in the Morning[/u:2zzvcrba], rp, 1987-1993: 7 seasons

T5. [u:2zzvcrba]Bob Apodaca[/u:2zzvcrba], rp, 1973-1977: 5 seasons (I think he spent 1978-1980 rehabbing before finally packing it in)

T5. [u:2zzvcrba]Bruce Boisclair[/u:2zzvcrba], of, ph, 1974-1979: 5 seasons (Didn't play for any other MLB franchises, but WAS a Hanshin Tiger in NPB)

T5. [u:2zzvcrba]Ron Gardenhire[/u:2zzvcrba], ss, 1981-1985: 5 seasons (Five seasons, but only 285 games)

T5. __________, rp, sp, 2010-2015: 5 seasons

T5. __________, rp, sp, 2000-2004: 5 seasons

10. __________, if, 2011-2014: 4 seasons

Benjamin Grimm
Feb 16 2017 12:20 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

I can't believe I'm drawing a complete blank on this guy:

T5. __________, rp, sp, 2010-2015: 5 seasons


I was pondering it while walking the dog this morning and I got nothing!

batmagadanleadoff
Feb 16 2017 01:22 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

Benjamin Grimm wrote:
I can't believe I'm drawing a complete blank on this guy:

T5. __________, rp, sp, 2010-2015: 5 seasons


I was pondering it while walking the dog this morning and I got nothing!


It's Mejia. I knew instantly that Mejia hadn't pitched in the majors since 2015, and it's likely obvious to you now that I bring it up. But it took a while to register that Mejia fit the bill - that he had been around that long and exclusively with the Mets. But Mejia was initially, Jerry Manuel's failed experiment in the bullpen in 2010.

Benjamin Grimm
Feb 16 2017 01:31 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

I think I've completely relegated Jenrry Mejia to the dustbin of my memory. He's dead to me!

41Forever
Feb 16 2017 01:45 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

As mocked as Terry is sometimes, he's working his way toward a plaque in the Mets Hall of Fame. Another trip to the World Series this year would cement it, I think.

Ceetar
Feb 16 2017 01:53 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

41Forever wrote:
As mocked as Terry is sometimes, he's working his way toward a plaque in the Mets Hall of Fame. Another trip to the World Series this year would cement it, I think.


and if he wins..he's arguably the best Mets manager ever and gets his number retired?

Benjamin Grimm
Feb 16 2017 02:19 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

41Forever wrote:
As mocked as Terry is sometimes, he's working his way toward a plaque in the Mets Hall of Fame. Another trip to the World Series this year would cement it, I think.


I think he's already there. I don't think he's in retired-number territory, nor do I think he'll get there, but if he retired today to devote the rest of his life to chasing Maja around Stockholm, he's already a Mets Hall-of-Famer.

And I say this as someone who's not a big supporter of his.

Edgy MD
Feb 16 2017 02:41 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

Yeah, I kind of bent my own definition of "active players, such as Wright, who are still eligible to disqualify themselves by playing for another team," by including Mejia, but there you have it. He's certainly eligible to be reinstated, but although I'm generally of the mind that athletes who can perform will get a chance from somebody, I wasn't feeling particularly optimistic about Mejia at the time.

1. Ed Kranepool, of, 1b, ph, 1962-1979: 18 seasons

2. Ron Hodges, c, phi, 1973-1984: 12 seasons

3. [u:1lkrt1gg]Pedro Feliciano[/u:1lkrt1gg], rp, 2002-2013: 9 seasons

4. [u:1lkrt1gg]Jeff Innis in the Morning[/u:1lkrt1gg], rp, 1987-1993: 7 seasons

T5. [u:1lkrt1gg]Bob Apodaca[/u:1lkrt1gg], rp, 1973-1977: 5 seasons (I think he spent 1978-1980 rehabbing before finally packing it in)

T5. [u:1lkrt1gg]Bruce Boisclair[/u:1lkrt1gg], of, ph, 1974-1979: 5 seasons (Didn't play for any other MLB franchises, but WAS a Hanshin Tiger in NPB)

T5. [u:1lkrt1gg]Ron Gardenhire[/u:1lkrt1gg], ss, 1981-1985: 5 seasons (Five seasons, but only 285 games)

T5. [u:1lkrt1gg]Jenrry Mejia[/u:1lkrt1gg], rp, sp, 2010-2015: 5 seasons

T5. __________, rp, sp, 2000-2004: 5 seasons

10. __________, if, 2011-2014: 4 seasons

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Feb 16 2017 04:39 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

10 is Josh "Hail" Satin

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Feb 16 2017 04:44 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

5. Grant "bonghit" Roberts

Edgy MD
Feb 16 2017 05:19 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

Both correct. Like the guy ahead of him on the list, Roberts short-circuited his career with PEDs. That guy had a lot of drama for a parts-of-five-seasons career. And not all of it was his fault.

[list][*]After coming through the system as the last of the high-end pitching prospects of the 1990s Mets, he got absolutely raked in his only big league start, coming right in the midst of a playoff hunt.

[/*:m]
[*]Basically got consigned forever to bullpen duty after the trauma of that one start.

[/*:m]
[*]Was utterly fantastic through the first two months of 2002, pitching out of the bullpen with a nearly invisible ERA.

[/*:m]
[*]After his first bad outing of that season, pow, he gets put on the disabled list in one of those "it's nothing" assignments that portends the beginning of the end.

[/*:m]
[*]Newsday lists him as one of seven Mets actively using marijuana, shortly after teammate Mark Corey has a terrifying brain seizure after smoking some of Tony Torasco's shit in a parking lot. Remember when Newsday did investigative work?

[/*:m]
[*]That minor issue that interrupted his season? That was apparently a torn rotator cuff that took too damn long to diagnose. He missed most of the second half of 2002 and his career was now looking like a runaway train heading to Craig Swan City.

[/*:m]
[*]On top of that, Newsday comes out with a shot of him going down on a bong.

[/*:m]
[*]It turns out, that bong shot was part of an extortion plot by an ex-girlfriend. Helpful hint to all gold-diggers: wait until the guy is making real money.

[/*:m]
[*]Diagnosis and rehab plans go back and forth and most of 2003 is lost for the guy as well. He doesn't appear until September and plans for surgery on the cuff for the off-season.

[/*:m]
[*]Fuck it. He decides NOT to have surgery in the off-season, putting him at odds with the team.

[/*:m]
[*]He predictably sucks it up at the start of 2004 before landing, again, on the disabled list. He plans to finally have his surgery in mid-May. The Mets, pissed that he missed the opportunity to go through this in the off-season, are fuming.

[/*:m]
[*]In an ugly-assed bit of vindication, with Roberts wearing a gown and minutes from undergoing surgery, the Mets DFA him, disqualifying him from getting the operation.

[/*:m]
[*]Confronted by the MLBPA that that sort of dastardliness is not really allowed, the Mets relent, and he gets the procedure a few weeks later.

[/*:m]
[*]He becomes a free agent at the end of the year, but amazingly, signs a minor league deal with the Mets(!), who are now under new management of Omar Minaya, which presumably washes away some of the bad blood with the previous adminsitration.

[/*:m]
[*]Roberts fails to make the team out of spring training ... and fails a PED test.

[/*:m]
[*]After serving his ridiculously short 15-day suspension, the Mets release him.

[/*:m]
[*]Roberts signs a minor league deal with the Yankees, for whom the sort of drama he brings is a typical workday. He fails to impress with the AA Trenton Thunder and ultimately retires without returning to the bigs with another team, qualifying as a career Met, very much representing the black hat era in a nutshell.[/*:m][/list:u]

And here's our list of career Mets, interspersed with active players, who would qualify if they retired today.

1. Ed Kranepool, of, 1b, ph, 1962-1979: 18 seasons
[list][*]David Wright: 13 seasons[/*:m][/list:u]

2. Ron Hodges, c, phi, 1973-1984: 12 seasons

3. Pedro Feliciano, rp, 2002-2013: 9 seasons

4. Jeff Innis in the Morning, rp, 1987-1993: 7 seasons
[list][*]Lucas Duda: 7 seasons[/*:m][/list:u]

T5. Bob Apodaca, rp, 1973-1977: 5 seasons (I think he spent 1978-1980 rehabbing before finally packing it in)

T5. Bruce Boisclair, of, ph, 1974-1979: 5 seasons (Didn't play for any other MLB franchises, but WAS a Hanshin Tiger in NPB)

T5. Ron Gardenhire, ss, 1981-1985: 5 seasons (Five seasons, but only 285 games)

T5. Jenrry Mejia, rp, sp, 2010-2015: 5 seasons

T5. Gwant Wobets, rp, sp, 2000-2004: 5 seasons
[list][*]Jeurys Familia: 5 seasons[/*:m][/list:u]

10. Josh Satin, if, 2011-2014: 4 seasons
[list][*]Travis d'Arnaud: 4 seasons[/*:m]
[*]Josh Edgin: 4 seasons[/*:m]
[*]Wilmer Flores: 4 seasons[/*:m]
[*]Matt Harvey: 4 seasons[/*:m]
[*]Juan Lagares: 4 seasons[/*:m]
[*]Eric Campbell: 4 seasons[/*:m][/list:u]

Centerfield
Feb 16 2017 07:43 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

Both correct. Like the guy ahead of him on the list, Roberts short-circuited his career with PEDs. That guy had a lot of drama for a parts-of-five-seasons career. And not all of it was his fault.

[list][*]After coming through the system as the last of the high-end pitching prospects of the 1990s Mets, he got absolutely raked in his only big league start, coming right in the midst of a playoff hunt.

[/*:m]
[*]Basically got consigned forever to bullpen duty after the trauma of that one start.

[/*:m]
[*]Was utterly fantastic through the first two months of 2002, pitching out of the bullpen with a nearly invisible ERA.

[/*:m]
[*]After his first bad outing of that season, pow, he gets put on the disabled list in one of those "it's nothing" assignments that portends the beginning of the end.

[/*:m]
[*]Newsday lists him as one of seven Mets actively using marijuana, shortly after teammate Mark Corey has a terrifying brain seizure after smoking some of Tony Torasco's shit in a parking lot. Remember when Newsday did investigative work?

[/*:m]
[*]That minor issue that interrupted his season? That was apparently a torn rotator cuff that took too damn long to diagnose. He missed most of the second half of 2002 and his career was now looking like a runaway train heading to Craig Swan City.

[/*:m]
[*]On top of that, Newsday comes out with a shot of him going down on a bong.

[/*:m]
[*]It turns out, that bong shot was part of an extortion plot by an ex-girlfriend. Helpful hint to all gold-diggers: wait until the guy is making real money.

[/*:m]
[*]Diagnosis and rehab plans go back and forth and most of 2003 is lost for the guy as well. He doesn't appear until September and plans for surgery on the cuff for the off-season.

[/*:m]
[*]Fuck it. He decides NOT to have surgery in the off-season, putting him at odds with the team.

[/*:m]
[*]He predictably sucks it up at the start of 2004 before landing, again, on the disabled list. He plans to finally have his surgery in mid-May. The Mets, pissed that he missed the opportunity to go through this in the off-season, are fuming.

[/*:m]
[*]In an ugly-assed bit of vindication, with Roberts wearing a gown and minutes from undergoing surgery, the Mets DFA him, disqualifying him from getting the operation.

[/*:m]
[*]Confronted by the MLBPA that that sort of dastardliness is not really allowed, the Mets relent, and he gets the procedure a few weeks later.

[/*:m]
[*]He becomes a free agent at the end of the year, but amazingly, signs a minor league deal with the Mets(!), who are now under new management of Omar Minaya, which presumably washes away some of the bad blood with the previous adminsitration.

[/*:m]
[*]Roberts fails to make the team out of spring training ... and fails a PED test.

[/*:m]
[*]After serving his ridiculously short 15-day suspension, the Mets release him.

[/*:m]
[*]Roberts signs a minor league deal with the Yankees, for whom the sort of drama he brings is a typical workday. He fails to impress with the AA Trenton Thunder and ultimately retires without returning to the bigs with another team, qualifying as a career Met, very much representing the black hat era in a nutshell.[/*:m][/list:u]



Like seriously. How does anyone know this.

Centerfield
Feb 16 2017 07:43 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

I mean, I bet Grant's mom couldn't even tell you that.

Edgy MD
Feb 16 2017 08:08 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

80% of that comes from his Wikipedia page, but yeah, he always struck me as one of the more star-crossed Mets, so his story has stuck with me, in a similar way to Sammy Khalifa's sticking with Coo.

G-Fafif
Feb 17 2017 04:53 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

2005 reliever Jose Santiago ranked as Least Consequential Met ever by local blog.

Edgy MD
Feb 17 2017 06:27 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

The one thing I remember about Santiago is that he was sent down, cleared waivers, and then endured an extended DL assignment in the minors based on an injury sustained while on the big league roster, which kind of screwed him out of the big league pay he'd've gotten.

And before you ask, no, I'm not sure that isn't actually a misplaced José Parra memory. I conflate.

G-Fafif
Feb 17 2017 06:30 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

The one thing I remember about Santiago is that he was sent down, cleared waivers, and then endured an extended DL assignment in the minors based on an injury sustained while on the big league roster, which kind of screwed him out of the big league pay he'd've gotten.

And before you ask, no, I'm not sure that isn't actually a misplaced José Parra memory. I conflate.


Which is Spanish for with flate.

Retro Rubin reports:

Parra broke the pinkie on his throwing hand a week ago while rehabbing a hip injury with Double-A Binghamton.


Parra might be the hombre you're looking for in this case.

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 06 2017 01:13 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

Some movement already this season on the all-time strikeout list.

Jacob deGrom has moved up two positions, passing Nolan Ryan and Oliver Perez to move from 25th place to 23rd.

And Noah Syndergaard also passes two players, Frank Viola and Bret Saberhagen, and advances from 40th place to a tie (with Pat Zachry) for 37th.

21. Jesse Orosco 506
21. Mike Pelfrey 506
23. Jacob deGrom 498
24. Oliver Perez 494
25. Nolan Ryan 493
[crossout]25. Jacob deGrom 492[/crossout]
26. Dillon Gee 489
27. Jack Fisher 475
28. R. A. Dickey 468
29. John Maine 467
30. Pedro Martinez 464
31. Bob Ojeda 459
32. Armando Benitez 456
33. Bartolo Colon 415
34. Jim McAndrew 408
35. Dave Mlicki 402
36. Aaron Heilman 395
37. Pat Zachry 391
37. Noah Syndergaard 391
39. Bret Saberhagen 388
40. Frank Viola 387
[crossout]40. Noah Syndergaard 384[/crossout]

Edgy MD
Apr 07 2017 01:46 AM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

Matt Harvey pulls into a tie with teammate Jacob deGrom as the active team leader in Mets wins. You just passed a Hall-of-Famer, man. Two more wins and you tie another one.

T28) Frank Viola: 38
T28) Jack Fisher: 38
T28) Ed Lynch: 38
31) Rick Aguilera: 37
32) Jim McAndrew: 36
33) Roger McDowell: 33
34) Pedro Martinez: 32
T35) Ray Sadecki: 30
T35) Jacob deGrom: 30
T35) Matt Harvey: 30
T38) Oliver Perez: 29
T38) Nolan Ryan: 29
T38) Bret Saberhagen: 29

Edgy MD
Apr 12 2017 01:15 AM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

All-Time Metly Homers

1) Darryl Strawberry: 252
2) David Wright: 242
3) Mike Piazza: 220
4) Howard Johnson: 192
5) Dave Kingman: 154
6) Carlos Beltran: 149
Yoenis Cespedes Projected to End of Season: 129
7) Todd Hundley: 124
8) Kevin McReynolds: 122
9) Edgardo Alfonzo: 120

....

35) Jeromy Burnitz: 53
36) Frank Thomas: 52
T37) Yoenis Cespedes: 52
T37) Bernard Gilkey: 52
=#FF8000]Yoenis Céspedes at Start of Season: 48
39) John Stearns: 46

Edgy MD
Apr 12 2017 01:16 AM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

Was kind of hoping this Neil Walkie plate appearance would go to T.J. Rivera. Let's get him some swings.

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 21 2017 07:55 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

GAMES
Jose Reyes has now played more games as a Met than Mookie Wilson has. He's looking like less of a sure thing to pass Howard Johnson.

1. Ed Kranepool 1853
2. David Wright 1583
3. Bud Harrelson 1322
4. Jerry Grote 1235
5. Cleon Jones 1201
6. Howard Johnson 1154
7. Jose Reyes 1110
8. Mookie Wilson 1116
9. Darryl Strawberry 1109
10. Edgardo Alfonzo 1086


INNINGS PITCHED
Matt Harvey has passed Oliver Perez and Bret Saberhagen. Jacob deGrom has passed Pedro Martinez.

27. R. A. Dickey 616.2
28. Pete Falcone 607.2
29. Ray Sadecki 600.1
30. Jesse Orosco 595.2
31. Bartolo Colon 588.2
32. Frank Viola 566.1
33. John Maine 542.0
34. Matt Harvey 538.0
35. Bret Saberhagen 524.1
36. Oliver Perez 520.0
37. Nolan Ryan 510.0
38. Dave Mlicki 501.1
39. Jacob deGrom 498.1
40. Pedro Martinez 486.2


WINS
DeGrom has not added to his total yet this year, but Harvey's two wins have moved him ahead of deGrom and Ray Sadecki.

30. Ed Lynch 38
31. Rick Aguilera 37
32. Jim McAndrew 36
33. Roger McDowell 33
34. Pedro Martinez 32
35. Matt Harvey 31
36. Ray Sadecki 30
36. Jacob deGrom 30


STRIKEOUTS
Harvey hasn't passed anybody yet, but he's gaining ground on Al Jackson. So far this season, deGrom has passed Nolan Ryan, Oliver Perez, Jesse Orosco, and Mike Pelfrey and is just two behind Tom Glavine. And Noah Syndergaard has passed Frank Viola, Bret Saberhagen, Pat Zachry, Aaron Heilman, Dave Mlicki, and Jim McAndrew. He's one shy of his old friend Bartolo Colon.

10. Bobby Jones 714
11. Craig Swan 671
12. Tug McGraw 618
13. Johan Santana 607
14. John Franco 592
15. Rick Reed 590
16. Steve Trachsel 580
17. Gary Gentry 563
18. Al Jackson 561
19. Matt Harvey 540
20. Tom Glavine 516
21. Jacob deGrom 514
22. Jesse Orosco 506
22. Mike Pelfrey 506
24. Oliver Perez 494
25. Nolan Ryan 493
26. Dillon Gee 489
27. Jack Fisher 475
28. R. A. Dickey 468
29. John Maine 467
30. Pedro Martinez 464
31. Bob Ojeda 459
32. Armando Benitez 456
33. Bartolo Colon 415
34. Noah Syndergaard 414
35. Jim McAndrew 408
36. Dave Mlicki 402
37. Aaron Heilman 395
38. Pat Zachry 391
39. Bret Saberhagen 388
40. Frank Viola 387
41. Ray Sadecki 380

Edgy MD
May 02 2017 12:07 AM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

Homers at SunTust Park

[list]1) Michael Conforto: 1[/list:u]

Frayed Knot
May 04 2017 02:25 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

Reyes's 5-RBI night moved him head of Kevin McReynolds and into the NYM career Top-10 with 457
Next in line is Keith with 468. Someone needs to alert the booth.

HahnSolo
May 04 2017 07:41 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

Frayed Knot wrote:
Reyes's 5-RBI night moved him head of Kevin McReynolds and into the NYM career Top-10 with 457
Next in line is Keith with 468. Someone needs to alert the booth.


Gary'll mention it tonight.

Edgy MD
May 10 2017 02:11 AM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

With his 20th career pitching-credited win, Wheeler moves into a three-way tie with Don Cardwell and Bobby Parnell for 57th place among Mets pitchers.

More impressively, Terry Collins is now in sole possession of second place in the category of games managed by a Met skipper.

[list:tg5dq1op]1) Davey Johnson: 1,012
2) Terry Collins: 1,004
3) Bobby Valentine: 1,003
4) Joe Torre: 709
5) Gil Hodges: 649
6) Yogi Berra: 588
7) Casey Stengel: 582
8) Willie Randolph: 555
9) Dallas Green: 512
10) Jerry Manuel: 417[/list:u:tg5dq1op]
It seems like there hasn't been anybody else moving up this list in recent years, but I guess Johnson, Valentine, Torre, Randolph, and/or Manuel could still add to their totals. Dallas Green, alas, is in the clubhouse.

Edgy MD
May 26 2017 12:05 AM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

The once unthinkable — a Mets homer top ten without Ed Kranepool — becomes a little more thinkable.

1) Darryl Strawberry: 252
2) David Wright: 242
3) Mike Piazza: 220
4) Howard Johnson: 192
5) Dave Kingman: 154
6) Carlos Beltran: 149
7) Todd Hundley: 124
8) Kevin McReynolds: 122
9) Edgardo Alfonzo: 120
10) Ed Kranepool: 118
11) Lucas Duda: 113

Edgy MD
May 28 2017 12:47 AM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

That's four guys within reach Lucas Duda 2017:

1) Darryl Strawberry: 252
2) David Wright: 242
3) Mike Piazza: 220
4) Howard Johnson: 192
5) Dave Kingman: 154
6) Carlos Beltran: 149
7) Todd Hundley: 124
8) Kevin McReynolds: 122
9) Edgardo Alfonzo: 120
10) Ed Kranepool: 118
11) Lucas Duda: 114

Edgy MD
May 29 2017 02:24 AM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

Hello, elite company!

1) Darryl Strawberry: 252
2) David Wright: 242
3) Mike Piazza: 220
4) Howard Johnson: 192
5) Dave Kingman: 154
6) Carlos Beltran: 149
7) Todd Hundley: 124
8) Kevin McReynolds: 122
9) Edgardo Alfonzo: 120
10) Ed Kranepool: 118
11) Lucas Duda: 115

Benjamin Grimm
May 30 2017 01:53 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

Jose Reyes may soon knock Ed Kranepool, who was in first place for what seemed like forever, into third place on the all-time hits list.

1. David Wright 1,777
2. Ed Kranepool 1,418
3. Jose Reyes 1,404

Edgy MD
May 30 2017 02:20 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

It's looking like a tough month for Ed.

Edgy MD
Jun 03 2017 12:58 AM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

Boom! Duda enters history.

1) Darryl Strawberry: 252
2) David Wright: 242
3) Mike Piazza: 220
4) Howard Johnson: 192
5) Dave Kingman: 154
6) Carlos Beltran: 149
7) Todd Hundley: 124
8) Kevin McReynolds: 122
9) Edgardo Alfonzo: 120
T10) Lucas Duda: 118
T10) Ed Kranepool: 118

batmagadanleadoff
Jun 03 2017 05:28 AM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

Boom! Duda enters history.

1) Darryl Strawberry: 252
2) David Wright: 242
3) Mike Piazza: 220
4) Howard Johnson: 192
5) Dave Kingman: 154
6) Carlos Beltran: 149
7) Todd Hundley: 124
8) Kevin McReynolds: 122
9) Edgardo Alfonzo: 120
T10) Lucas Duda: 118
T10) Ed Kranepool: 118


And Topps commemorates the occasion.

[fimg=544]https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4270/34932735131_eeeda43f32_b.jpg[/fimg]

Edgy MD
Jun 12 2017 03:25 AM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

Stolen Bases, Active Dudes

1) Ichiro Suzuki: 508
2) Jose Reyes: 497
3) Rajai Davis: 374
4) Michael Bourn: 341
5) Jacoby Ellsbury: 329
6) Carlos Beltran: 312
7) Hanley Ramirez: 277
8) Elvis Andrus: 256
9) Carlos Gomez: 244
10) Dee Gordon: 239

Stolen Bases, All-Tme Dudes

T31) Patsy Donovan: 518
T31) Jack Doyle: 518
33) Barry Bonds: 514
Jose Reyes Projected to End of Season: 511.902
T34) Fred Clarke: 509
T34) Harry Stovey: 509
36) Ichiro Suzuki: 508
37) Luis Aparicio: 506
38) Paul Molitor: 504
39) Jose Reyes: 497
T40) Willie Keeler: 495
T40) Clyde Milan: 495

Lefty Specialist
Jun 12 2017 12:14 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

Hard to believe Barry Bonds had over 500 SB's. You tend to think of him late in his career when he was built like a 1958 Buick.

41Forever
Jun 12 2017 12:16 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

Lefty Specialist wrote:
Hard to believe Barry Bonds had over 500 SB's. You tend to think of him late in his career when he was built like a 1958 Buick.


I didn't realize Ichiro had so many steals, too.

Edgy MD
Jun 12 2017 12:36 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

Zero so far this year.

Looks like he's done, but I've said that before.

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 12 2017 01:43 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

Benjamin Grimm on May 30 wrote:
Jose Reyes may soon knock Ed Kranepool, who was in first place for what seemed like forever, into third place on the all-time hits list.

1. David Wright 1,777
2. Ed Kranepool 1,418
3. Jose Reyes 1,404


Jose has had two hits in the last 13 days. His assault on Ed Kranepool's second-place slot hasn't been very energetic.

1. David Wright 1,777
2. Ed Kranepool 1,418
3. Jose Reyes 1,406

G-Fafif
Jun 19 2017 07:29 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

Jacob deGrom takes home (or on the West Coast trip) the Mets' first NL Player of the Week Award for 2017, despite not having the advantage several of his predecessors had of facing the Mets the week he earned it.

G-Fafif
Jun 19 2017 07:35 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

Benjamin Grimm wrote:
Benjamin Grimm on May 30 wrote:
Jose Reyes may soon knock Ed Kranepool, who was in first place for what seemed like forever, into third place on the all-time hits list.

1. David Wright 1,777
2. Ed Kranepool 1,418
3. Jose Reyes 1,404


Jose has had two hits in the last 13 days. His assault on Ed Kranepool's second-place slot hasn't been very energetic.

1. David Wright 1,777
2. Ed Kranepool 1,418
3. Jose Reyes 1,406


Jose has narrowed the gap to six. Would like to believe he's past 1,418 when they come home in eleven days. Would also like to believe in bunnies for easter, fairies for teeth and Montero for sixth starter.

Edgy MD
Jun 19 2017 08:01 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

Unacknowledged is Ol' Luke catching Edgardo Alfonzo as the ninth-homeriest guy in Mets history.

1) Darryl Strawberry: 252
2) David Wright: 242
3) Mike Piazza: 220
4) Howard Johnson: 192
5) Dave Kingman: 154
6) Carlos Beltran: 149
7) Todd Hundley: 124
8) Kevin McReynolds: 122
T9) Lucas Duda: 120
T9) Edgardo Alfonzo: 120
T10) Ed Kranepool: 118

Extra-notable in that all of them have come in the Citi Field Era.

G-Fafif
Jun 19 2017 08:18 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

Meanwhile, Jose and Keith are deadlocked in a tie for 9th in RBI.

1. David Wright 970
2. Darryl Strawberry 733
3. Mike Piazza 655
4. Howard Johnson 629
5. Ed Kranepool 614
6. Carlos Beltran 559
7. Edgardo Alfonzo 538
8. Cleon Jones 521
9. Jose Reyes 468
9. Keith Hernandez 468

Frayed Knot
Jun 19 2017 08:27 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

The way Jose is hitting these days I think he can break that tie within the next three or four weeks easily.

G-Fafif
Jun 20 2017 03:12 AM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

G-Fafif wrote:
Meanwhile, Jose and Keith are deadlocked in a tie for 9th in RBI.

1. David Wright 970
2. Darryl Strawberry 733
3. Mike Piazza 655
4. Howard Johnson 629
5. Ed Kranepool 614
6. Carlos Beltran 559
7. Edgardo Alfonzo 538
8. Cleon Jones 521
9. Jose Reyes 468
9. Keith Hernandez 468


Jose is now all alone in 9th. Yay.

Edgy MD
Jun 20 2017 06:25 AM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

With the two homers, José also leapfrogs John Milner and visits the Bronx for a tie for 14th place all-time in homers. Twelfth is not out of reach this season.

1) Darryl Strawberry: 252
2) David Wright: 242
3) Mike Piazza: 220
4) Howard Johnson: 192
5) Dave Kingman: 154
6) Carlos Beltran: 149
7) Todd Hundley: 124
8) Kevin McReynolds: 122
T9) Lucas Duda: 120
T9) Edgardo Alfonzo: 120
11) Ed Kranepool: 118
12) Carlos Delgado: 104
13) George Foster: 99
T14) José Reyes: 95
T14) Bobby Bonilla: 95
16) John Milner: 94
17) Cleon Jones: 93

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 20 2017 12:48 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

I remember, when I first started paying attention to such things, Wayne Garrett was 10th in homers for the Mets, with 55. You now need 120 to get into the top ten. (It really shouldn't have taken 56 years for that to happen, should it?)

Edgy MD
Jun 20 2017 01:23 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

Basically, career offensive achievement didn't happen for the Mets until the eighties.

Not a lot of sustained pitching even. When Ed Lynch left the Mets, he was in their all-time top ten for victories.

Edgy MD
Jun 24 2017 04:34 AM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

Leaving the Fonz behind

HOMERS AS A MET

1) Darryl Strawberry: 252
2) David Wright: 242
3) Mike Piazza: 220
4) Howard Johnson: 192
5) Dave Kingman: 154
6) Carlos Beltran: 149
7) Todd Hundley: 124
8) Kevin McReynolds: 122
=#0040FF]9) Lucas Duda: 121
9) Edgardo Alfonzo: 120
11) Ed Kranepool: 118
12) Carlos Delgado: 104
13) George Foster: 99
T14) José Reyes: 95
T14) Bobby Bonilla: 95
16) John Milner: 94
17) Cleon Jones: 93

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 28 2017 05:26 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

This is probably a pretty rare thing, especially this late in the season:

Addison Reed, who hasn't started any games, is fifth on the Mets in innings pitched.

deGrom 97.0
Gsellman 76.0
Harvey 70.1
Wheeler 66.1
Reed 38.1

bmfc1
Jun 28 2017 05:28 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

This is the speed ranking page that Gary mentioned last night (the Mets 4th fastest runner is a catcher):
https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/sprint_s ... =&team=NYM

Benjamin Grimm
Jul 01 2017 02:10 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017


Matt Harvey (19th place), Jacob deGrom (25th place) and Noah Syndergaard (40th place) can expect to climb many slots on the all-time strikeout list.

STRIKEOUTS
1. Tom Seaver 2541
2. Dwight Gooden 1875
3. Jerry Koosman 1799
4. Sid Fernandez 1449
5. David Cone 1172
6. Ron Darling 1148
7. Al Leiter 1106
8. Jon Matlack 1023
9. Jon Niese 838
10. Bobby Jones 714
11. Craig Swan 671
12. Tug McGraw 618
13. Johan Santana 607
14. John Franco 592
15. Rick Reed 590
16. Steve Trachsel 580
17. Gary Gentry 563
18. Al Jackson 561
19. Matt Harvey 525
20. Tom Glavine 516
21. Jesse Orosco 506
21. Mike Pelfrey 506
23. Oliver Perez 494
24. Nolan Ryan 493
25. Jacob deGrom 492
26. Dillon Gee 489
27. Jack Fisher 475
28. R. A. Dickey 468
29. John Maine 467
30. Pedro Martinez 464
31. Bob Ojeda 459
32. Armando Benitez 456
33. Bartolo Colon 415
34. Jim McAndrew 408
35. Dave Mlicki 402
36. Aaron Heilman 395
37. Pat Zachry 391
38. Bret Saberhagen 388
39. Frank Viola 387
40. Noah Syndergaard 384
41. Ray Sadecki 380
42. Pete Falcone 379
43. Skip Lockwood 368
44. Rick Aguilera 351
45. Pedro Feliciano 350
46. Glendon Rusch 313


Jacob deGrom has indeed moved up quite a bit on the strikeout list:

1. Tom Seaver 2541
2. Dwight Gooden 1875
3. Jerry Koosman 1799
4. Sid Fernandez 1449
5. David Cone 1172
6. Ron Darling 1148
7. Al Leiter 1106
8. Jon Matlack 1023
9. Jon Niese 838
10. Bobby Jones 714
11. Craig Swan 671
12. Tug McGraw 618
13. Jacob deGrom 617
14. Johan Santana 607
15. John Franco 592
16. Rick Reed 590
17. Steve Trachsel 580
18. Matt Harvey 579
19. Gary Gentry 563
20. Al Jackson 561
21. Tom Glavine 516
22. Jesse Orosco 506
23. Mike Pelfrey 506
24. Oliver Perez 494
25. Nolan Ryan 493


And... Jose Reyes has finally passed Ed Kranepool to move into second place in hits.

1. David Wright 1777
2. Jose Reyes 1421
3. Ed Kranepool 1418

He's slowly advancing on the ever-idle David Wright, but time is not on his side.

Edgy MD
Jul 15 2017 11:51 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

Stolen Bases, All-Time Dudes
[list]
T34) Fred Clarke: 509
T34) Harry Stovey: 509
José Reyes Projected to End of Season: 508.25
36) Ichiro Suzuki: 508
37) Luis Aparicio: 506
38) Paul Molitor: 504
39) José Reyes: 499
T40) Willie Keeler: 495
T40) Clyde Milan: 495
=#FF8000]José Reyes at Start of the Season: 488
42) Omar Moreno: 487[/list:u]

Suzuki hasn't successfully stolen a base this season, so Reyes has a chance to finish the season as the active steals leader.

Edgy MD
Jul 16 2017 02:10 AM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

Homers as a Met

10) Edgardo Alfonzo: 120
11) Ed Kranepool: 118
José Reyes Projected to End of Season: 105.57
12) Carlos Delgado: 104
Curtis Granderson Projected to End of Season: 99.93
13) George Foster: 99
14) Jose Reyes: 98
15) Bobby Bonilla: 95
16) John Milner: 94
17) Cleon Jones: 93
T18) Gary Carter: 89
T18) Curtis Granderson: 89
=#FF8000]José Reyes at Start of Season: 89
20) Tommie Agee: 82
21) Cliff Floyd: 81
22) Keith Hernandez: 80
21) Cliff Floyd: 81
22) Keith Hernandez: 80
23) Robin Ventura: 77
=#FF8000]Curtis Granderson at Start of Season: 76
24) Rusty Staub: 75

Edgy MD
Jul 16 2017 05:05 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

Here's an all-time lead change we missed.

[list]Most Times Hit by a Pitch in Mets History

1) Lucas Duda: 47
2) David Wright: 45
3) Ron Hunt: 41
4) Cleon Jones: 39
5) Cliff Floyd: 37
6) Felix Millan: 36
T7) Carlos Delgado: 33
T7) Ruben Tejada: 33
9) Edgardo Alfonzo: 29
T10) John Olerud: 28
T10) Jeff Kent: 28
12) Darryl Strawberry: 26
13) John Stearns: 25
14) Curtis Granderson: 23
15) Todd Hundley: 22
T16) Bud Harrelson: 21
T16) Jerry Grote: 21
T18) Gary Carter: 20
T18) Vance Wilson: 20
20) Jason Phillips: 19[/list:u]

Edgy MD
Jul 16 2017 05:29 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

And Granderson gets #24!

G-Fafif
Jul 16 2017 06:42 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

Duda hath past McReynolds, creeps to within one of Hundley.

G-Fafif
Jul 20 2017 04:50 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

Mr. Duda overtakes Mr. Hundley for seventh place, 125 to 124. Now for a 25-homer spurt to pass Beltran prior to the trade deadline.

Edgy MD
Jul 23 2017 01:38 AM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

ALL-TIME MLB TRIPPS

1) Sam Crawford: 309
2) Ty Cobb: 295
3) Honus Wagner: 252
...

77) George Wood: 132
José Reyes Projected to End of Season: 131.23
T78) Brett Butler: 131
T78) Joe DiMaggio: 131
T78) Buck Freeman: 131
81) Buddy Myer: 130
T82) Oyster Burns: 129
T82) Larry Gardner: 129
T84) Earl Averill: 128
T84) Arky Vaughan: 128
T86) Vada Pinson: 127
T86) José Reyes: 127
88) Hardy Richardson: 126
Robin Yount: 126
90) Jimmie Foxx: 125
T91) John Anderson: 124
T91) Hal Chase: 124
T91) Steve Finley: 124
T91) Frank Schulte: 124
T95) Carl Crawford: 123
T95) Larry Doyle: 123
T95) Duke Farrell: 123
98) William Ellsworth Hoy: 121
=#FF8000]José Reyes at Start of Season: 121
T99) Fred Pfeffer: 120
T99Mickey Vernon: 120
101) Hugh Duffy: 119

Frayed Knot
Jul 23 2017 02:30 AM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

ALL-TIME MLB TRIPPS ... SINCE 1960 (I'm defining that as anyone who played even one ML game from 1960 on)

1) Stan Musial 177 (Last played - 1963)
2) Roberto Clemente 166 (1972)
3) Willie Wilson 147 (1994)
4) Lou Brock 141 (1979)
5) Willie Mays 140 (1973)
6) Willie Davis 138 (1979)
7) George Brett 137 (1993)
8) Pete Rose 135 (1986)
9) Brett Butler 131 (1997)
T-10) Vada Pinson 127 (1975)
T-10) Jose Reyes 127

Edgy MD
Jul 25 2017 04:12 AM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

Stolen Bases, All-Time Dudes
[list]
T34) Fred Clarke: 509
T34) Harry Stovey: 509
José Reyes Projected to End of Season: 508.04
36) Ichiro Suzuki: 508
37) Luis Aparicio: 506
38) Paul Molitor: 504
39) José Reyes: 500
T40) Willie Keeler: 495
T40) Clyde Milan: 495
=#FF8000]José Reyes at Start of the Season: 488
42) Omar Moreno: 487[/list:u]

Edgy MD
Jul 26 2017 05:28 AM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

Reyes' nice little run suddenly brings Barry Bonds into play. All those guys ahead of him below are Hall-of Famers, except Stovey, who probably should be.

Amazingly, we lack stolen base data for Stovey's first six seasons, so he likely had far more than is recorded.

[list]Stolen Bases, All-Time Dudes

[list]33) Barry Bonds: 514
José Reyes Projected to End of Season: 509.49
T34) Fred Clarke: 509
T34) Harry Stovey: 509
36) Ichiro Suzuki: 508
37) Luis Aparicio: 506
38) Paul Molitor: 504
39) José Reyes: 501
T40) Willie Keeler: 495
T40) Clyde Milan: 495
=#FF8000]José Reyes at Start of the Season: 488
42) Omar Moreno: 487[/list:u]
[/list:u]

Chad Ochoseis
Aug 03 2017 09:33 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

This hasn't gotten much play at all, but at the 2/3 mark of the season, Jay Bruce has 29 home runs, putting him on pace to break Beltran and Hundley's single season record of 41.

Edgy MD
Aug 04 2017 12:06 AM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

That's a good one! Jay Bruce, on August 3, has already hit more homers in a season than all but 20 Mets.

HOMERS IN A METLY SEASON

Jay Bruce Projected to End of Season: 44.32
T1) Todd Hundley, 1996: 41
T1) Carlos Beltran, 2006: 41
3) Mike Piazza, 1999: 40
T4) Darryl Strawberry, 1988: 39
T4) Darryl Strawberry, 1987: 39
T6) Howard Johnson, 1991: 38
T6) Mike Piazza, 2000: 38
T6) Carlos Delgado, 2008: 38
T6) Carlos Delgado, 2006: 38
T10) Dave Kingman, 1982: 37
T10) Dave Kingman, 1976: 37
T10) Darryl Strawberry, 1990: 37
T13) Mike Piazza, 2001: 36
T13) Howard Johnson, 1987: 36
T13) Howard Johnson, 1989: 36
T13) Dave Kingman, 1975: 36
T17) Bobby Bonilla, 1993: 34
T17) Frank Thomas, 1962: 34
T17) Cliff Floyd, 2005: 34
T20) Mike Piazza, 2002: 33
T20) David Wright, 2008: 33
T20) Carlos Beltran, 2007: 33
Michael Conforto Projected to End of Season: 32.09
T23) Gary Carter, 1985: 32
T23) Robin Ventura, 1999: 32
T23) Ike Davis, 2012: 32
26) Yoenis Cespedes, 2016: 31
T27) Bernard Gilkey, 1996: 30
T27) Curtis Granderson, 2016: 30
T27) Todd Hundley, 1997: 30
T27) Lucas Duda, 2014: 30
T27) David Wright, 2007: 30
T27) Mike Cameron, 2004: 30
T33) David Wright, 2010: 29
T33) Kevin McReynolds, 1987: 29
T33) Jay Bruce, 2017: 29
T33) Darryl Strawberry, 1985: 29
T33) Darryl Strawberry, 1989: 29
38) George Foster, 1983: 28
T39) Eddie Murray, 1993: 27
T39) Edgardo Alfonzo, 1999: 27
T39) David Wright, 2005: 27
42) Darryl Strawberry, 1986: 27
T43) Carlos Beltran, 2008: 27
T43) Lucas Duda, 2015: 27
T43) Kevin McReynolds, 1988: 27
T46) Mo Vaughn, 2002: 26
T46) Tommie Agee, 1969: 26
T46) Darryl Strawberry, 1984: 26
T46) David Wright, 2006: 26
T46) Darryl Strawberry, 1983: 26
T46) Curtis Granderson, 2015: 26
52) Edgardo Alfonzo, 2000: 25
T53) Kevin McReynolds, 1990: 24
T53) Butch Huskey, 1997: 24
T53) Howard Johnson, 1988: 24
T53) Gary Carter, 1986: 24
T53) Carlos Delgado, 2007: 24
T53) Tommie Agee, 1970: 24
T53) George Foster, 1984: 24
T53) Robin Ventura, 2000: 24
T61) John Milner, 1973: 23
T61) Howard Johnson, 1990: 23
T61) Asdrubal Cabrera, 2016: 23
T61) Mike Piazza, 1998: 23
T61) Neil Walker, 2016: 23
T66) Rico Brogna, 1995: 22
T66) John Olerud, 1998: 22
T66) John Olerud, 1997: 22
T66) Todd Zeile, 2000: 22
T66) Dave Kingman, 1981: 22
T66) Donn Clendenon, 1970: 22
T66) Kevin McReynolds, 1989: 22
T73) Marlon Byrd, 2013: 21
T73) Jeff Kent, 1993: 21
T73) Brian McRae, 1998: 21
T73) Michael Conforto, 2017: 21
T73) David Wright, 2012: 21
T73) Richard Hidalgo, 2004: 21
T73) Robin Ventura, 2001: 21
T73) George Foster, 1985: 21

Edgy MD
Aug 04 2017 04:21 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

Collins sneaking up slowly (too slowly) on second place.

Wins as Mets Manager in a Mets Career

1) Davey Johnson: 595
Terry Collins Projected to End of Season: 555.19
2) Bobby Valentine: 536
3) Terry Collins: 530
=#FF8000]Terry Collins at Start of Season: 481
4) Gil Hodges: 339
5) Willie Randolph: 302
6) Yogi Berra: 292
7) Joe Torre: 286
8) Dallas Green: 229
9) Jerry Manuel: 204
10) Casey Stengel: 175
11) Bud Harrelson: 145
12) Wes Westrum: 142
13) Art Howe: 137
14) Joe Frazier: 101
15) Jeff Torborg: 85
16) George Bamberger: 81
17) Frank Howard: 52
18) Roy McMillan: 26
19) Salty Parker: 4
20) Mike Cubbage: 3

Frayed Knot
Aug 04 2017 05:07 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

Which means if Terry IS back next year ...

Centerfield
Aug 04 2017 05:17 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

Frayed Knot wrote:
Which means if Terry IS back next year ...


He will exceed Davey in overall wins and tie him in World Championships.

Frayed Knot
Aug 04 2017 05:20 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

Edgy MD wrote:
Collins sneaking up slowly (too slowly) on second place.


Slowly?!? He's a mere six away and by the end of this weekend he'll likely be ... umm, probably still six away.
Never mind.

Edgy MD
Aug 11 2017 02:26 AM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

Hundley and Beltran are safe from Jay Bruce, but if Conforto picks up the pace just a little, he has a crack at a top-10-Metly-homer season.

[list]HOMERS IN A METLY SEASON

T1) Todd Hundley, 1996: 41
T1) Carlos Beltran, 2006: 41
3) Mike Piazza, 1999: 40
T4) Darryl Strawberry, 1988: 39
T4) Darryl Strawberry, 1987: 39
T6) Howard Johnson, 1991: 38
T6) Mike Piazza, 2000: 38
T6) Carlos Delgado, 2008: 38
T6) Carlos Delgado, 2006: 38
T10) Dave Kingman, 1982: 37
T10) Dave Kingman, 1976: 37
T10) Darryl Strawberry, 1990: 37
T13) Mike Piazza, 2001: 36
T13) Howard Johnson, 1987: 36
T13) Howard Johnson, 1989: 36
T13) Dave Kingman, 1975: 36
Michael Conforto Projected to End of Season: 34.71
T17) Bobby Bonilla, 1993: 34
T17) Frank Thomas, 1962: 34
T17) Cliff Floyd, 2005: 34
T20) Mike Piazza, 2002: 33
T20) David Wright, 2008: 33
T20) Carlos Beltran, 2007: 33
T23) Gary Carter, 1985: 32
T23) Robin Ventura, 1999: 32
T23) Ike Davis, 2012: 32
26) Yoenis Cespedes, 2016: 31
T27) Bernard Gilkey, 1996: 30
T27) Curtis Granderson, 2016: 30
T27) Todd Hundley, 1997: 30
T27) Lucas Duda, 2014: 30
T27) David Wright, 2007: 30
T27) Mike Cameron, 2004: 30
T33) David Wright, 2010: 29
T33) Kevin McReynolds, 1987: 29
T33) Jay Bruce, 2017: 29 (in the clubhouse)
T33) Darryl Strawberry, 1985: 29
T33) Darryl Strawberry, 1989: 29
38) George Foster, 1983: 28
T39) Eddie Murray, 1993: 27
T39) Edgardo Alfonzo, 1999: 27
T39) David Wright, 2005: 27
42) Darryl Strawberry, 1986: 27
T43) Carlos Beltran, 2008: 27
T43) Lucas Duda, 2015: 27
T43) Kevin McReynolds, 1988: 27
T46) Mo Vaughn, 2002: 26
T46) Tommie Agee, 1969: 26
T46) Darryl Strawberry, 1984: 26
T46) David Wright, 2006: 26
T46) Darryl Strawberry, 1983: 26
T46) Curtis Granderson, 2015: 26
52) Edgardo Alfonzo, 2000: 25
T53) Kevin McReynolds, 1990: 24
T53) Butch Huskey, 1997: 24
T53) Howard Johnson, 1988: 24
T53) Michael Conforto, 2017: 24
T53) Gary Carter, 1986: 24
T53) Carlos Delgado, 2007: 24
T53) Tommie Agee, 1970: 24
T53) George Foster, 1984: 24
T53) Robin Ventura, 2000: 24
T62) John Milner, 1973: 23
T62) Howard Johnson, 1990: 23
T62) Asdrubal Cabrera, 2016: 23
T62) Mike Piazza, 1998: 23
T62) Neil Walker, 2016: 23
T67) Rico Brogna, 1995: 22
T67) John Olerud, 1998: 22
T67) John Olerud, 1997: 22
T67) Todd Zeile, 2000: 22
T67) Dave Kingman, 1981: 22
T67) Donn Clendenon, 1970: 22
T67) Kevin McReynolds, 1989: 22[/list:u]

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 11 2017 06:54 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

All-time strikeouts by a Mets pitcher

Jacob deGrom has moved into an 11th-place tie with Craig Swan. If he can strike out another 44 batters this year, he'll bump Bobby Jones out of the Top Ten.

1. Tom Seaver 2541
2. Dwight Gooden 1875
3. Jerry Koosman 1799
4. Sid Fernandez 1449
5. David Cone 1172
6. Ron Darling 1148
7. Al Leiter 1106
8. Jon Matlack 1023
9. Jon Niese 838
10. Bobby Jones 714
11. Jacob deGrom 671
11. Craig Swan 671
13. Tug McGraw 618
14. Johan Santana 607
15. John Franco 592
16. Rick Reed 590
17. Steve Trachsel 580
18. Matt Harvey 579
19. Gary Gentry 563
20. Al Jackson 561

Edgy MD
Aug 12 2017 03:14 AM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

Forty catches Edgardo Alfonzo. Pretty good chance that Bruce won't be our 2017 homerun champ.

[list]HOMERS IN A METLY SEASON

T1) Todd Hundley, 1996: 41
T1) Carlos Beltran, 2006: 41
3) Mike Piazza, 1999: 40
T4) Darryl Strawberry, 1988: 39
T4) Darryl Strawberry, 1987: 39
T6) Howard Johnson, 1991: 38
T6) Mike Piazza, 2000: 38
T6) Carlos Delgado, 2008: 38
T6) Carlos Delgado, 2006: 38
T10) Dave Kingman, 1982: 37
T10) Dave Kingman, 1976: 37
T10) Darryl Strawberry, 1990: 37
T13) Mike Piazza, 2001: 36
T13) Howard Johnson, 1987: 36
T13) Howard Johnson, 1989: 36
T13) Dave Kingman, 1975: 36
Michael Conforto Projected to End of Season: 35.84
T17) Bobby Bonilla, 1993: 34
T17) Frank Thomas, 1962: 34
T17) Cliff Floyd, 2005: 34
T20) Mike Piazza, 2002: 33
T20) David Wright, 2008: 33
T20) Carlos Beltran, 2007: 33
T23) Gary Carter, 1985: 32
T23) Robin Ventura, 1999: 32
T23) Ike Davis, 2012: 32
26) Yoenis Cespedes, 2016: 31
T27) Bernard Gilkey, 1996: 30
T27) Curtis Granderson, 2016: 30
T27) Todd Hundley, 1997: 30
T27) Lucas Duda, 2014: 30
T27) David Wright, 2007: 30
T27) Mike Cameron, 2004: 30
T33) David Wright, 2010: 29
T33) Kevin McReynolds, 1987: 29
T33) Jay Bruce, 2017: 29 (in the clubhouse)
T33) Darryl Strawberry, 1985: 29
T33) Darryl Strawberry, 1989: 29
38) George Foster, 1983: 28
T39) Eddie Murray, 1993: 27
T39) Edgardo Alfonzo, 1999: 27
T39) David Wright, 2005: 27
42) Darryl Strawberry, 1986: 27
T43) Carlos Beltran, 2008: 27
T43) Lucas Duda, 2015: 27
T43) Kevin McReynolds, 1988: 27
T46) Mo Vaughn, 2002: 26
T46) Tommie Agee, 1969: 26
T46) Darryl Strawberry, 1984: 26
T46) David Wright, 2006: 26
T46) Darryl Strawberry, 1983: 26
T46) Curtis Granderson, 2015: 26
T52) Edgardo Alfonzo, 2000: 25
T52) Michael Conforto, 2017: 25
T54) Kevin McReynolds, 1990: 24
T54) Butch Huskey, 1997: 24
T54) Howard Johnson, 1988: 24
T54) Gary Carter, 1986: 24
T54) Carlos Delgado, 2007: 24
T54) Tommie Agee, 1970: 24
T54) George Foster, 1984: 24
T54) Robin Ventura, 2000: 24[/list:u]

Edgy MD
Aug 14 2017 02:37 AM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

Another day, another Conforto homer.

HOMERS IN A METLY SEASON

T1) Todd Hundley, 1996: 41
T1) Carlos Beltran, 2006: 41
3) Mike Piazza, 1999: 40
T4) Darryl Strawberry, 1988: 39
T4) Darryl Strawberry, 1987: 39
T6) Howard Johnson, 1991: 38
T6) Mike Piazza, 2000: 38
T6) Carlos Delgado, 2008: 38
T6) Carlos Delgado, 2006: 38
T10) Dave Kingman, 1982: 37
T10) Dave Kingman, 1976: 37
T10) Darryl Strawberry, 1990: 37
Michael Conforto Projected to End of Season: 36.63
T13) Mike Piazza, 2001: 36
T13) Howard Johnson, 1987: 36
T13) Howard Johnson, 1989: 36
T13) Dave Kingman, 1975: 36
T17) Bobby Bonilla, 1993: 34
T17) Frank Thomas, 1962: 34
T17) Cliff Floyd, 2005: 34
T20) Mike Piazza, 2002: 33
T20) David Wright, 2008: 33
T20) Carlos Beltran, 2007: 33
T23) Gary Carter, 1985: 32
T23) Robin Ventura, 1999: 32
T23) Ike Davis, 2012: 32
26) Yoenis Cespedes, 2016: 31
T27) Bernard Gilkey, 1996: 30
T27) Curtis Granderson, 2016: 30
T27) Todd Hundley, 1997: 30
T27) Lucas Duda, 2014: 30
T27) David Wright, 2007: 30
T27) Mike Cameron, 2004: 30
T33) David Wright, 2010: 29
T33) Kevin McReynolds, 1987: 29
T33) Jay Bruce, 2017: 29 (in the clubhouse)
T33) Darryl Strawberry, 1985: 29
T33) Darryl Strawberry, 1989: 29
38) George Foster, 1983: 28
T39) Eddie Murray, 1993: 27
T39) Edgardo Alfonzo, 1999: 27
T39) David Wright, 2005: 27
42) Darryl Strawberry, 1986: 27
T43) Carlos Beltran, 2008: 27
T43) Lucas Duda, 2015: 27
T43) Kevin McReynolds, 1988: 27
T46) Mo Vaughn, 2002: 26
T46) Tommie Agee, 1969: 26
T46) Darryl Strawberry, 1984: 26
T46) Michael Conforto, 2017: 26
T46) David Wright, 2006: 26
T46) Darryl Strawberry, 1983: 26
T46) Curtis Granderson, 2015: 26
53) Edgardo Alfonzo, 2000: 25

Edgy MD
Aug 28 2017 01:40 AM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

The assault on Paul Molitor has slowed, but now he's feeling José's hot breath.

[list]Stolen Bases, All-Time Dudes

[list]33) Barry Bonds: 514
T34) Fred Clarke: 509
T34) Harry Stovey: 509
36) Ichiro Suzuki: 508
José Reyes Projected to End of Season: 506.69
37) Luis Aparicio: 506
38) Paul Molitor: 504
39) José Reyes: 503
T40) Willie Keeler: 495
T40) Clyde Milan: 495
=#FF8000]José Reyes at Start of the Season: 488
42) Omar Moreno: 487[/list:u][/list:u]

Edgy MD
Sep 10 2017 07:43 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

Down goes Ichiro!

[list]ACTIVE STEAL LEADERS

1) Jose Reyes: 508
2) Ichiro Suzuki: 508
3) Rajai Davis: 393
4) Michael Bourn: 341
5) Jacoby Ellsbury: 338
6) Carlos Beltran: 312
7) Melvin Upton, Jr.: 300
8) Hanley Ramirez: 277
9) Dee Gordon: 268
10) Elvis Andrus: 265[/list:u]

I forget that Jimmy Rollins isn't active. Carl Crawford, too.

[list]TOP 50 ALL-TIME STEAL LEADERS

1) Rickey Henderson: 1,406
2) Lou Brock: 938
3) Billy Hamilton: 914
4) Ty Cobb: 897
5) Tim Raines: 808
6) Vince Coleman: 752
7) Arlie Latham: 742
8) Eddie Collins: 741
9) Max Carey: 738
10) Honus Wagner: 723
11) Joe Morgan: 689
12) Willie Wilson: 668
13) Tom Brown: 658
14) Bert Campaneris: 649
15) Kenny Lofton: 622
16) Otis Nixon: 620
17) George Davis: 619
18) Juan Pierre: 614
19) Dummy Hoy: 596
20) Maury Wills: 586
21) George Van Haltren: 583
22) Ozzie Smith: 580
23) Hugh Duffy: 574
24) Bid McPhee: 568
25) Brett Butler: 558
26) Davey Lopes: 557
27) Cesar Cedeño: 550
28) Bill Dahlen: 548
29) John Ward: 540
30) Herman Long: 537
T31) Patsy Donovan: 518
T31) Jack Doyle: 518
33) Barry Bonds: 514
=#0000FF]Jose Reyes Projected to End of Season: 511.30
T34) Fred Clarke: 509
T34) Jose Reyes: 508
T34) Harry Stovey: 509
37) Ichiro Suzuki: 508
38) Luis Aparicio: 506
39) Paul Molitor: 504
T40) Willie Keeler: 495
T40) Clyde Milan: 495
=#FF8000]José Reyes at Start of Season: 488
42) Omar Moreno: 487
43) Carl Crawford: 480
44) Roberto Alomar: 474
45) Mike Griffin: 473
46) Jimmy Rollins: 470
47) Tommy McCarthy: 468
T48) Jimmy Sheckard: 465
T48) Eric Young: 465
50) Delino DeShields: 463[/list:u]

Passing Harry Stovey and Fred Clarke may not make any headlines, but catching Barry Bonds would be nice.

Benjamin Grimm
Sep 10 2017 08:18 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

And one more steal will give Jose 400 as a Met.

Frayed Knot
Sep 10 2017 08:40 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

How depressed does (currently injured) Cincy speedster Billy Hamilton get when he realizes how far he has to go just to be the most accomplished stealer named Billy Hamilton?!?!?

Edgy MD
Sep 11 2017 12:23 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

The thing is, the record was Ty Cobb's when Lou Brock broke it, so they must've found some Slidin' Billy Hamilton data that wasn't part of the official record and subsequently added it. The guy died in 1940 as the record-holder and didn't even know it.

41Forever
Sep 11 2017 05:14 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

33) Barry Bonds: 514
Jose Reyes Projected to End of Season: 510.66
T34) Fred Clarke: 509
T34) Harry Stovey: 509
T36) Ichiro Suzuki: 508
T36) Jose Reyes: 508
38) Luis Aparicio: 506
39) Paul Molitor: 504
T40) Willie Keeler: 495


What's interesting to me is that while speed always been a huge part of Jose's game, I didn't realize Ichiro had stolen so many bags.

Benjamin Grimm
Sep 11 2017 05:24 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

Checking in again on Jacob deGrom's climb up the team's all-time strikeout list. He started the year in 25th place and is now knocking on the door of the Top Ten. Jon Niese is within reach for next year, and in 2019 he could potentially move up another few notches.

1. Tom Seaver 2541
2. Dwight Gooden 1875
3. Jerry Koosman 1799
4. Sid Fernandez 1449
5. David Cone 1172
6. Ron Darling 1148
7. Al Leiter 1106
8. Jon Matlack 1023
9. Jon Niese 838
10. Bobby Jones 714
11. Jacob deGrom 713
12. Craig Swan 671
13. Tug McGraw 618
14. Johan Santana 607
15. John Franco 592
16. Rick Reed 590
17. Matt Harvey 583
18. Steve Trachsel 580
19. Gary Gentry 563
20. Al Jackson 561
21. Tom Glavine 516
22. Jesse Orosco 506
22. Mike Pelfrey 506
24. Oliver Perez 494
25. Nolan Ryan 493

Frayed Knot
Sep 11 2017 05:43 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

Edgy MD wrote:
The thing is, the record was Ty Cobb's when Lou Brock broke it, so they must've found some Slidin' Billy Hamilton data that wasn't part of the official record and subsequently added it. The guy died in 1940 as the record-holder and didn't even know it.


Also, lots of baseball folks used to routinely ignore pre-1901 stats which had the effect of erasing all but the final year of Sliding Billy's career.
So while he might have had an idea that he had out-thefted Cobb for their careers, the problem was getting someone to listen or care.

seawolf17
Sep 11 2017 05:56 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

Benjamin Grimm wrote:
10. Bobby Jones 714
11. Jacob deGrom 713


No confirmation on the story that Bobby's sitting in the hallways of Citi Field waiting to pull a Tonya Harding.

Benjamin Grimm
Sep 11 2017 05:59 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

DeGrom's assault on the number 714 is getting considerably less attention than Henry Aaron's did.

Edgy MD
Sep 15 2017 01:31 AM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

Down goes Ichiro!

[list]ACTIVE STEAL LEADERS

1) Jose Reyes: 508
2) Ichiro Suzuki: 508
3) Rajai Davis: 393
4) Michael Bourn: 341
5) Jacoby Ellsbury: 338
6) Carlos Beltran: 312
7) Melvin Upton, Jr.: 300
8) Hanley Ramirez: 277
9) Dee Gordon: 268
10) Elvis Andrus: 265[/list:u]

I forget that Jimmy Rollins isn't active. Carl Crawford, too.

[list]TOP 50 ALL-TIME STEAL LEADERS

1) Rickey Henderson: 1,406
2) Lou Brock: 938
3) Billy Hamilton: 914
4) Ty Cobb: 897
5) Tim Raines: 808
6) Vince Coleman: 752
7) Arlie Latham: 742
8) Eddie Collins: 741
9) Max Carey: 738
10) Honus Wagner: 723
11) Joe Morgan: 689
12) Willie Wilson: 668
13) Tom Brown: 658
14) Bert Campaneris: 649
15) Kenny Lofton: 622
16) Otis Nixon: 620
17) George Davis: 619
18) Juan Pierre: 614
19) Dummy Hoy: 596
20) Maury Wills: 586
21) George Van Haltren: 583
22) Ozzie Smith: 580
23) Hugh Duffy: 574
24) Bid McPhee: 568
25) Brett Butler: 558
26) Davey Lopes: 557
27) Cesar Cedeño: 550
28) Bill Dahlen: 548
29) John Ward: 540
30) Herman Long: 537
T31) Patsy Donovan: 518
T31) Jack Doyle: 518
33) Barry Bonds: 514
=#0000FF]Jose Reyes Projected to End of Season: 511.30
T34) Fred Clarke: 509
T34) Jose Reyes: 508
T34) Harry Stovey: 509
37) Ichiro Suzuki: 508
38) Luis Aparicio: 506
39) Paul Molitor: 504
T40) Willie Keeler: 495
T40) Clyde Milan: 495
=#FF8000]José Reyes at Start of Season: 488
42) Omar Moreno: 487
43) Carl Crawford: 480
44) Roberto Alomar: 474
45) Mike Griffin: 473
46) Jimmy Rollins: 470
47) Tommy McCarthy: 468
T48) Jimmy Sheckard: 465
T48) Eric Young: 465
50) Delino DeShields: 463[/list:u]

Passing Harry Stovey and Fred Clarke may not make any headlines, but catching Barry Bonds would be nice.

Edgy MD
Sep 23 2017 04:32 AM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

Getting a little granular, let's look at ...

15-HOMER SEASONS BY METS CATCHERS

1) Mike Piazza: 6
T2) Todd Hundley: 3
T2) Gary Carter: 3
T4) John Stearns: 1
T4) John Buck: 1
T4) Travis d'Arnaud: 1

Edgy MD
Sep 23 2017 05:05 AM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

CAREER SAVES BY A MET

(I think the real fraternity starts with Myers)

1) John Franco: 276
2) Armando Benitez: 160
3) Jesse Orosco: 107
Jeurys Familia projected to end of the season: 104.24
4) Jeurys Familia: 104
5) Billy Wagner: 101
=#FF8000]Jeurys Familia at the start of the season: 100
6) Tug McGraw: 85
7) Roger McDowell: 84
8) Francisco Rodriguez: 83
9) Neil Allen: 69
10) Skip Lockwood: 65
11) Braden Looper: 57
12) Randy Myers: 56
13) Bobby Parnell: 37
14) Doug Sisk: 33
T15) Ron Taylor: 28
T15) Jenrry Mejia: 28
17) Bob Apodaca: 26
18) Frank Francisco: 24
19) Danny Frisella: 22
20) Addison Reed: 21
21) Anthony Young: 18
T22) Doug Henry: 13
T22) LaTroy Hawkins: 13
24) Harry Parker: 11
T25) Jeff Reardon: 10
T25) Turk Wendell: 10
T27) Dale Murray: 9
T27) Alejandro Pena: 9
T27) Aaron Heilman: 9
T27) Luis Ayala: 9
T31) Ed Glynn: 8
T31) Jason Isringhausen: 8
T31) Greg McMichael: 8
T31) Hisanori Takahashi: 8
AJ Ramos projected to end of season: 7.82
T35) Cal Koonce: 7
T35) Rick Baldwin: 7
T35) Terry Leach: 7
T35) AJ Ramos: 7
T35) Rick Aguilera: 7
T35) Mike Maddux: 7
T35) Dave Weathers: 7
T42) Ken Sanders: 6
T42) Dennis Cook: 6
T42) Manny Acosta: 6
T45) Jerry Koosman: 5
T45) Jeff Innis: 5
T45) Mike Stanton: 5
T48) Jim McAndrew: 4
T48) Buzz Capra: 4
T48) Pete Falcone: 4
T48) Andy Hassler: 4
T48) Ed Lynch: 4
T48) Jerry Dipoto: 4
T48) Mel Rojas: 4
T48) Pedro Feliciano: 4
T48) Roberto Hernandez: 4
T48) Jon Rauch: 4
=#FF8000]Jerry Blevins projected to end of season: 3.06
T58) Phil Hennigan: 3
T58) Tom Hausman: 3
T58) Mardie Cornejo: 3
T58) Mike Scott: 3
T58) Jerry Blevins: 3
T58) Wally Whitehurst: 3
T58) Derek Wallace: 3
T58) Rick White: 3
T58) Scott Schoeneweis: 3
T58) Kyle Farnsworth: 3
T68) Bob Miller: 2
T68) Nolan Ryan: 2
T68) Rich Folkers: 2
T68) Chuck Taylor: 2
T68) Craig Swan: 2
T68) Jack Aker: 2
T68) Bob Myrick: 2
T68) Carlos Diaz: 2
T68) Don Aase: 2
T68) Pete Schourek: 2
T68) Lee Guetterman: 2
=#FF8000]Jerry Blevins at start of season: 2
=#FF8000]Addison Reed at start of season: 2
T68) Josias Manzanillo: 2
T68) Cory Lidle: 2
T68) Scott Strickland: 2
T68) Dan Wheeler: 2
T68) Chad Bradford: 2
T68) J. J. Putz: 2
T68) Josh Edgin: 2
T68) Carlos Torres: 2
T68) Jose Valverde: 2
T68) Tyler Clippard: 2
T89) Jack DiLauro: 1
T89) Gary Gentry: 1
T89) Bob Johnson: 1
T89) Dean Chance: 1
T89) Ron Herbel: 1
T89) Ray Sadecki: 1
T89) Bob Rauch: 1
T89) George Stone: 1
T89) Tom Hall: 1
T89) Roy Lee Jackson: 1
T89) Pat Zachry: 1
T89) Paul Siebert: 1
T89) Dyar Miller: 1
T89) Ray Searage: 1
T89) Charlie Puleo: 1
T89) Greg Harris: 1
T89) Brent Gaff: 1
T89) Sid Fernandez: 1
T89) Dwight Gooden: 1
T89) Wes Gardner: 1
T89) Rick Anderson: 1
T89) David Cone: 1
T89) Bob McClure: 1
T89) Tim Burke: 1
T89) Doug Simons: 1
T89) Barry Jones: 1
T89) Mauro Gozzo: 1
T89) Roger Mason: 1
=#FF8000]Josh Edgin at start of season: 1
T89) Blas Minor: 1
T89) Dave Mlicki: 1
T89) Toby Borland: 1
T89) Allen Watson: 1
T89) Hansel Robles: 1
T89) Grant Roberts: 1
T89) Mark Guthrie: 1
T89) Orber Moreno: 1
T89) Bartolome Fortunato: 1
T89) Juan Padilla: 1
T89) Jorge Julio: 1
T89) Mike Pelfrey: 1
T89) Brian Stokes: 1
T89) Sean Green: 1
T89) Raul Valdes: 1
T89) Tim Byrdak: 1
T89) Blaine Boyer: 1
T89) Josh Stinson: 1
T89) Ramon Ramirez: 1
T89) Gonzalez Germen: 1
T89) Daisuke Matsuzaka: 1
T89) Vic Black: 1
T89) Buddy Carlyle: 1
T89) Dana Eveland: 1
T89) Alex Torres: 1
T89) Logan Verrett: 1

Benjamin Grimm
Oct 02 2017 02:53 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

Addison Reed led the Mets in saves this year, the lowest total to lead the club since John Franco lead the Mets with only 10 saves in 1993.

Jacob deGrom's 239 strikeouts in 2017 were the most by a Mets pitcher since David Cone had 241 in 1991.

Jose Reyes led the club in at bats with 501, the lowest total to lead the team since Mike Cameron led with 493 in 2004.

Asdrubal Cabrera led the Mets in hits with 134, the lowest total since Kaz Matsui with 125 in 2004.

Cabrera and Reyes were the only Mets to have enough plate appearances to qualify for the batting title, and deGrom was the only pitcher with enough innings to qualify for the ERA title.

dgwphotography
Oct 02 2017 04:33 PM
Re: Where Mets Rank in 2017

seawolf17 wrote:
Benjamin Grimm wrote:
10. Bobby Jones 714
11. Jacob deGrom 713


No confirmation on the story that Bobby's sitting in the hallways of Citi Field waiting to pull a Tonya Harding.


Back when "taking a knee" really meant something