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WBC - 1st Round
Frayed Knot Mar 06 2017 01:39 PM |
Team Israel -- consisting of some players who may or may not have been to Israel at some point in their lives -- is tied with host Korea 1-1 in the 10th in the opening game of this year's tourney.
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Frayed Knot Mar 06 2017 02:00 PM Re: WBC - 1st Round |
And Israel is your surprise 2-1 winner in 10 innings
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Edgy MD Mar 06 2017 03:38 PM Re: WBC - 1st Round |
2016 Met Ty Kelly started at third and batted second for the Maccabeans, and took the collar. The real Metly heroism came when 2016 B-Met and Las Vegan (but currently a free agent) Josh Zeid came on to pitch the last three innings, getting in and out of trouble, giving up a hit and two walks in the first two innings, but putting them down in order in the 10th, striking out the last two.
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A Boy Named Seo Mar 06 2017 04:07 PM Re: WBC - 1st Round |
Jason Marquis went 3 scoreless for Israel. I always feel like he was a Met for like a month. Almost said ex-Met Jason Marquis.
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Frayed Knot Mar 06 2017 04:54 PM Re: WBC - 1st Round |
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The odd story about that outing by Zeid is that there's a 50 pitch ceiling for pitchers in this opening round. They're allowed to pass that limit but, if so, they're not permitted to pitch for the remainder of that round. Zeid got the 'K' to end the game on pitch #49 meaning that, if Israel should find itself in a must-win game to possibly move on to the next round, Zeid remains eligible to pitch. Whether he would have been yanked had he NOT retired that final batter may go forever unknown.
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Ashie62 Mar 07 2017 12:21 AM Re: WBC - 1st Round |
This tournament may be worse than the NBA all-star game.
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Frayed Knot Mar 07 2017 04:30 AM Re: WBC - 1st Round |
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The WBC may be an exhibition tournament with little tradition and not always attended by the best players, but at least, aside from a handful of pitcher restrictions, they're playing real games out there. The NBA ASG on the other hand, which is a star-driven league where the (24?) best and best-known players in the world are on hand, has somehow managed to turn their mid-season showcase into something that no one wants to watch. Shit ... Michael Wilson, who shills for the NBA more than maybe any writer alive and for years referred to the whole weekend as 'Black Thanksgiving, admits that the game now sucks to the point where he no longer attends. The only thing keeping the NBA ASG from being the worst sporting event on television is the NFL Pro-Bowl.
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Edgy MD Mar 07 2017 04:47 AM Re: WBC - 1st Round |
Izzy breaks out with four runs in the first and is leading 6-0 over Chinese Taipei midway through five. Israel thirdbaseman Ty Kelly is 2-3 with a double and a run scored.
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Frayed Knot Mar 07 2017 02:27 PM Re: WBC - 1st Round |
Israel now 2-0 after beating Taipei and host Korea falls to 0-2 (good thing they're not scheduled to host 2nd round games) after losing to the Netherlands.
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Nymr83 Mar 08 2017 12:43 AM Re: WBC - 1st Round |
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If you want to know how sloppy WBC play can be, I've never seen this in all the years i've watched MLB - bases loaded up by 5 and Israel drops down a suicide-squeeze attempt... the Pitcher and 1st Baseman both charge the ball but the Catcher picks it up and makes a strong throw to the First Base Bag... where nobody is covering. the 2nd Baseman isn't even in the frame. 3 runs score. [crossout]Batter[/crossout] Bunter to 3rd on the play.
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Ashie62 Mar 08 2017 01:17 AM Re: WBC - 1st Round |
You would have to pay me to watch this crap, or offer only soccer.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 08 2017 04:15 AM Re: WBC - 1st Round |
That's great-- what a conversation starter! Why don't you post some more about how you don't care about this?
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Edgy MD Mar 08 2017 04:23 AM Re: WBC - 1st Round |
Between multiple and redundant posts about not caring about the WBC, and multiple posts about not caring about Tebow, I'm finding it overwhelming how much folks care about what they don't care about.
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Edgy MD Mar 08 2017 04:50 AM Re: WBC - 1st Round |
Bruce Chen: hasn't pitched professionally in two years, can't crack 85 with his fastball, took the mound in what looked like dress shoes, throwing 2 2/3 scoreless against the mighty Cubans.
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Frayed Knot Mar 08 2017 12:27 PM Re: WBC - 1st Round |
Chen had pitched in previous WBCs for Panama but for some reason decided to cast his lot for China this year, the country of his parents' birth.
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Frayed Knot Mar 08 2017 01:51 PM Re: WBC - 1st Round |
- 1st round play isn't over yet (it hasn't even begun in Pools C & D) but in Pool A, Israel & the Netherlands, on the basis of both being 2-0 with only each other to play, will advance to the 2nd round at the expense of winless Korea and Taipei who will finish 1-2 and 0-3 depending on their remaining head-to-head game.
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MFS62 Mar 08 2017 02:07 PM Re: WBC - 1st Round |
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Literally LOL! Later
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Fman99 Mar 08 2017 05:06 PM Re: WBC - 1st Round |
MLB network had live coverage starting at 10 PM last night. I was in bed by then.
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Frayed Knot Mar 09 2017 03:58 AM Re: WBC - 1st Round |
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Well that's what happens when half the games in this round are being played in east Asia. Israel jumps out with 3 in the 1st vs Netherlands. Both teams will move on but the winner of this game will determine seeding in the 2nd round.
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Nymr83 Mar 09 2017 04:07 AM Re: WBC - 1st Round |
Israel & Netherlands basically advance on the strength of an AWFUL 'pool' designed to give the host country some wins that they couldn't find anyway. Still, I think
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Edgy MD Mar 09 2017 05:54 AM Re: WBC - 1st Round |
That Dutch team seems to be what a Dominican team might have looked like 25 years ago. All shortstops. Andrelton Simmons is (amazingly) DH-ing. Jurickson Profar is in center. Xander Boegarts is at third. The guy actually playing short is Didi Gregorius. I don't know, but among those guys, he might've been my fourth choice.
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G-Fafif Mar 09 2017 01:59 PM Re: WBC - 1st Round |
Mensch on a Bench is totally a thing.
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Nymr83 Mar 10 2017 06:27 AM Re: WBC - 1st Round |
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the American Jews are 3-0! how abnormal are the WBC's eligibility rules? i know they are stretching things because there are only a dozen or so countries that legitimately play baseball, but where are other international sports on this? Soccer's international rules allow anyone who establishes residency (but not citizenship) for 5 years to play OR anyone whose grandparent, parent, or self was born there. that second criteria is both stricter and looser than the WBC's - I'd be eligible to play for Israel in the WBC but not Soccer. Who would FIFA let me play for if one grandparent was born in territory that has variously been part of Russia, Poland, the USSR and Belarus?
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Edgy MD Mar 10 2017 12:13 PM Re: WBC - 1st Round |
One big difference is that FIFA gives you one chance to make a commitment to which team you hope to play for. If you are a German kid whose father emigrated from the United States, you might choose to play for the less competitive US at 19, and if you make it to the top of your peers by the time you are 25, you can't decide to suddenly represent Germany. You are an American for life with FIFA.
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Frayed Knot Mar 10 2017 01:41 PM Re: WBC - 1st Round |
Didn't see any of them but it sounds like there were some fun games last night.
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Edgy MD Mar 10 2017 03:34 PM Re: WBC - 1st Round |
Here's hoping Nimmo gives Ollie the same treatment a few more times in 2017.
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Frayed Knot Mar 11 2017 04:03 AM Re: WBC - 1st Round |
- Adam Jones is today's All-American hero, singling in the walk-off run in the 10th for the U.S. win over Colombia.
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bmfc1 Mar 11 2017 03:25 PM Re: WBC - 1st Round |
In the WBC, you can have a walk-off HR to win the game 11-0 (because of a "slaughter" rule). That's our TJ Rivera: http://m.mlb.com/video/topic/31426364/v ... eending-hr
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Mets Willets Point Mar 12 2017 12:16 AM Re: WBC - 1st Round |
If you want hope for the future of the WBC, my 9-year-old is totally obsessed with these games. Or maybe he's just jonesing for baseball.
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Mets Willets Point Mar 12 2017 12:20 AM Re: WBC - 1st Round |
Also, Marlins Man has grown a beard.
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MFS62 Mar 12 2017 12:49 AM Re: WBC - 1st Round |
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Earlier in the game, he hit a ball to the centerfield wall that was caught. Homey's showing some power. Later
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Frayed Knot Mar 12 2017 04:21 AM Re: WBC - 1st Round |
Andrew Miller clearly hates America
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G-Fafif Mar 12 2017 11:06 AM Re: WBC - 1st Round |
Team Israel is real. Ty, Ike and the gang took it to Cuba, 4-1.
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MFS62 Mar 12 2017 06:01 PM Re: WBC - 1st Round |
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Did any of the Cuban players defect to Israel? Later
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 12 2017 08:20 PM Re: WBC - 1st Round |
Awesome Houdini by Robles. Tied in b9th, 2 on, 0 out. Got 2 double plays. First wasn't turned making 1st and 3rd 1 out then a bang bang 7-2 play to end the inning that to put it mildly upset the Columbians
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Frayed Knot Mar 12 2017 08:27 PM Re: WBC - 1st Round |
Not quite sure what the Colombians were all nuts over, the dude was clearly out.
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d'Kong76 Mar 12 2017 08:44 PM Re: WBC - 1st Round |
I'm tuned in since the 7th or so, fun stuff. Yeah, no idea what the hub
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Ashie62 Mar 12 2017 08:50 PM Re: WBC - 1st Round |
Saw something about Yadier Molina complaining about security in the Mexico's players families section.
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d'Kong76 Mar 12 2017 09:39 PM Re: WBC - 1st Round |
Feel bad for Colombia, and their under-informed fans...
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Centerfield Mar 12 2017 11:04 PM Re: WBC - 1st Round |
Nimmo goes down with a hamstring injury. Out several weeks.
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Frayed Knot Mar 12 2017 11:11 PM Re: WBC - 1st Round |
Of course guys can and do get hurt in regular ST games as well, so Nimmo just as easily could have pulled his hammy chasing a fly ball in Pt St Lucie as he did while playing the OF for Italy.
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Centerfield Mar 12 2017 11:24 PM Re: WBC - 1st Round |
Sure, but if I'm the organization I view it differently if a kid gets hurt while hustling to make the team, versus getting while playing in an exhibition tournament. And I give deference to the actual foreign players who face pressure back home to represent. But guys like Lugo and Nimmo? I just shake my head.
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Frayed Knot Mar 13 2017 01:00 AM Re: WBC - 1st Round |
I dunno, I can't see the teams holding it against players because, once every four years, a couple of guys do a portion of ST off campus, so to speak.
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Fman99 Mar 13 2017 01:34 AM Re: WBC - 1st Round |
I'm warming to these games. They're on in prime time and the fans give a hoot. It doesn't have all the lazy nonchalance of spring training baseball.
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G-Fafif Mar 13 2017 01:46 AM Re: WBC - 1st Round |
While certain players are still distasteful based on ongoing associations (i.e. Molina, every 2015 Royal), I like that I don't have anything against any of these temporary teams. Even the opponents of those I'm rooting for seem admirable in the WBC context.
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Frayed Knot Mar 13 2017 12:46 PM Re: WBC - 1st Round Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Mar 13 2017 01:03 PM |
Team Israel's streak is about to end as they're on the short end of a 10-2 thumping from the Netherlands in the 8th inning of their second game of the 2nd round.
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Lefty Specialist Mar 13 2017 12:51 PM Re: WBC - 1st Round |
Saw that 'start the inning with runners on first & second' rule in the DR/Colombia game. I hated it in the abstract, but hated it even more seeing it in action. It's a mind-bogglingly stupid idea. After a tight, hard-fought game, they give up 6 runs in an inning. Absurd.
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Frayed Knot Mar 13 2017 01:01 PM Re: WBC - 1st Round |
Sure, although I can understand why they want to use it in a short tournament such as this when you're dealing with not only pitching limits but also a strict schedule and sometimes international travel between rounds.
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Mets Willets Point Mar 13 2017 02:23 PM Re: WBC - 1st Round |
Hup, honkbal!
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Edgy MD Mar 13 2017 02:44 PM Re: WBC - 1st Round |
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Which sort of makes sense. If you're in an extra inning tie, and the first two batters reach base, your instinct is going to be to try and make perfect pitches to achieve a shutout inning, and if trying to be too cute risks the big inning, so be it. You're playing with your back against the wall. You've got to stop those baserunners from scoring. Hold the runners, pitch for strikeouts, play the infield in as soon as a runner gets to third. In the bottom of the inning, with several runs home, the visiting team is not particularly worried about the baserunners, and will just pitch to get outs. I think the home team has to adopt a difficult new mindset, taking the field in the top half of the inning concentrating on outs also, not worrying too much about the runners, knowing that they will have the same automatic rally-starter in the bottom of the inning and a damn good chance to get even.
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Mets Willets Point Mar 13 2017 05:01 PM Re: WBC - 1st Round |
Just realized that the remaining USA games and the championship round are in California and will be late starts in the Eastern Time Zone. Not good for my 9 y.o. who is inordinately excited about this tournament.
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