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STIGT, 3/9 DET@NYM

Edgy MD Mar 09 2017 03:30 PM

Mets send three starters to Lakeland (that's still where the Tigers train, right?), along with the big donkey. [fimg=250]https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/dd/29/9c/dd299ca962ae718ba63389312fd8adc1.gif[/fimg] [fimg=250]https://img.clipartfest.com/c88e886409b96928f49766b1a6a59a05_1000-images-about-mr-met-on-mr-met-clipart_271-450.gif[/fimg] [list=1][*]Andrew Romine, 1b[/*:m] [*]Jose Iglesias, ss[/*:m] [*]Nicholas Castellanos, 3b[/*:m] [*]J.D. Martinez, rf[/*:m] [*]Tyler Collins, dh[/*:m] [*]James McCann, c[/*:m] [*]Mikie Mahtook, cf[/*:m] [*]Dixon Machado, 2b[/*:m] [*]Anthony Gose, lf Anibal Sanchez, sp[/*:m][/list:o] [list=1][*]Luis Guillorme, 3b[/*:m] [*]Asdrubal Cabrera, ss[/*:m] [*]Yoenis Cespedes, lf[/*:m] [*]Neil Walker, 2b[/*:m] [*]Dominic Smith, 1b[/*:m] [*]Travis Taijeron, rf[/*:m] [*]Wuilmer Becerra, dh[/*:m] [*]Tomas Nido, c[/*:m] [*]Champ Stuart, cf Jacob deGrom, sp[/*:m][/list:o] Gametime Forecast: 80°F • Partly Cloudy • 0% PoP 1:10 PM ET

Ceetar Mar 09 2017 04:27 PM Re: STIGT, 3/9 DET@NYM

Anyone know what happened to "David Wright can still DH?"

d'Kong76 Mar 09 2017 04:27 PM Re: STIGT, 3/9 DET@NYM

That's a pretty cool cat! Not as cool as Mr. Met, but almost...

Benjamin Grimm Mar 09 2017 04:30 PM Re: STIGT, 3/9 DET@NYM

Ceetar wrote: Anyone know what happened to "David Wright can still DH?" Is he in camp with them? Or is he going around visiting doctors?

Ceetar Mar 09 2017 04:42 PM Re: STIGT, 3/9 DET@NYM

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Ceetar wrote: Anyone know what happened to "David Wright can still DH?" Is he in camp with them? Or is he going around visiting doctors? I believe he's in camp, he's done with doctors. If I had to wager he's with Barwis in camp somewhere.

Edgy MD Mar 09 2017 04:44 PM Re: STIGT, 3/9 DET@NYM

Yeah, I imagine a lot of PT at this point.

G-Fafif Mar 09 2017 04:44 PM Re: STIGT, 3/9 DET@NYM

David did return to camp. Whatever they said about DH, apparently, as of last week, he wasn't jumping at the chance. Sandy Alderson, the Mets’ general manager, said Wright would not throw for about two weeks and then would begin doing so gradually. A recovery in time for opening day is most likely out of the question. But Wright refused to put a timetable on his return. He has received medical clearance to swing a bat and play as a designated hitter in spring training games. Wright de-emphasized that, saying his primary focus is to get the shoulder back to health first.

Ceetar Mar 09 2017 05:16 PM Re: STIGT, 3/9 DET@NYM

G-Fafif wrote: David did return to camp. Whatever they said about DH, apparently, as of last week, he wasn't jumping at the chance. Sandy Alderson, the Mets’ general manager, said Wright would not throw for about two weeks and then would begin doing so gradually. A recovery in time for opening day is most likely out of the question. But Wright refused to put a timetable on his return. He has received medical clearance to swing a bat and play as a designated hitter in spring training games. Wright de-emphasized that, saying his primary focus is to get the shoulder back to health first. I mean he's a pro and doesn't really need 6 weeks of swinging to get up to speed. Probably prioritizing the rehab type stuff. I imagine him showing up as DH then would be the first signs his shoulder is feeling better/throwing. I reject the notion that Opening Day is "most likely" out of the question. I don't think he needs 6 weeks of throwing/fielding to be able to man the position. No need to rush obviously, but if he starts gradually throwing on say March 20th, that's still 2 full weeks before Opening Day. And if he sticks to Minors games( I don't know how the shorter DL stint thing works with the beginning of the season. used to be you could back date by about 10 days) you could even take a few more days onto that. Of course, that's all without other setbacks in the recovery, or other issues.

A Boy Named Seo Mar 09 2017 05:45 PM Re: STIGT, 3/9 DET@NYM

Ceetar wrote: G-Fafif wrote: David did return to camp. Whatever they said about DH, apparently, as of last week, he wasn't jumping at the chance. Sandy Alderson, the Mets’ general manager, said Wright would not throw for about two weeks and then would begin doing so gradually. A recovery in time for opening day is most likely out of the question. But Wright refused to put a timetable on his return. He has received medical clearance to swing a bat and play as a designated hitter in spring training games. Wright de-emphasized that, saying his primary focus is to get the shoulder back to health first. I mean he's a pro and doesn't really need 6 weeks of swinging to get up to speed. Probably prioritizing the rehab type stuff. I imagine him showing up as DH then would be the first signs his shoulder is feeling better/throwing. I reject the notion that Opening Day is "most likely" out of the question. I don't think he needs 6 weeks of throwing/fielding to be able to man the position. No need to rush obviously, but if he starts gradually throwing on say March 20th, that's still 2 full weeks before Opening Day. And if he sticks to Minors games( I don't know how the shorter DL stint thing works with the beginning of the season. used to be you could back date by about 10 days) you could even take a few more days onto that. Of course, that's all without other setbacks in the recovery, or other issues. I respectfully reject your rejection. I'd say with the amount of time he's missed he would need as many reps as possible, both offensively and defensively, to get timing back on both ends at the very least. You don't just roll out of bed, especially with a bad back, neck, and shoulder and start hitting MLB pitching and fielding your position at more than a passable level. All this stuff needs continual work to work. If he's able to get reps in minor league games, great.

d'Kong76 Mar 09 2017 06:03 PM Re: STIGT, 3/9 DET@NYM

I'm not sure I've ever seen Randazzo before yesterday, for some reason I thought he'd look older.

Ceetar Mar 09 2017 06:34 PM Re: STIGT, 3/9 DET@NYM

A Boy Named Seo wrote: I reject the notion that Opening Day is "most likely" out of the question. I don't think he needs 6 weeks of throwing/fielding to be able to man the position. No need to rush obviously, but if he starts gradually throwing on say March 20th, that's still 2 full weeks before Opening Day. And if he sticks to Minors games( I don't know how the shorter DL stint thing works with the beginning of the season. used to be you could back date by about 10 days) you could even take a few more days onto that. Of course, that's all without other setbacks in the recovery, or other issues. I respectfully reject your rejection. I'd say with the amount of time he's missed he would need as many reps as possible, both offensively and defensively, to get timing back on both ends at the very least. You don't just roll out of bed, especially with a bad back, neck, and shoulder and start hitting MLB pitching and fielding your position at more than a passable level. All this stuff needs continual work to work. If he's able to get reps in minor league games, great.

Do you have evidence? I mean, these are things he's been doing regularly for decades. I'm legitimately curious on what the data looks like. It's not like he's pitching and needs to build up stamina and arm strength, i mean, he does somewhat, but only to make a handful of throws across the diamond a day and move laterally. Like riding a bike? He's shown evidence of being able to get his timing down really fast too. I'm not looking for him to suddenly be gold glove standard (hell the Mets are basically punting defense anyway) but just to make the routine plays.

And especially the hitting, I feel like if he felt he needed more time he'd be DHing now. And he's a baseball player so I doubt he's thinking "My shoulder probably won't be fine so I shouldn't bother with the hitting until I'm sure".

Edgy MD Mar 09 2017 06:53 PM Re: STIGT, 3/9 DET@NYM

Well, he may have been doing it regularly for decades, but not much at all for the last two seasons. And after the fusion surgery, all baseball activities were banned, and for a good while, most non-baseball activities too. He's going to open in St. Lucie. And the Mets already have a replacement in place for the big club.

Benjamin Grimm Mar 09 2017 06:59 PM Re: STIGT, 3/9 DET@NYM

Yeah, I find it hard to believe that he'll be throwing "with zip" three weeks from now.

Edgy MD Mar 09 2017 07:26 PM Re: STIGT, 3/9 DET@NYM

Meanwhilst, back to the subject of this thread. Goodman Jacob deGrom has cruised through four innings against the mighty Bengal Cats, allowing no runs on two hits and no walks, striking out four. His Metly teammates have had no such trouble, putting up four runs in the third on a pair of two-run homers by Champ Stuart and Yoenis Céspedes. Four-nuttin'. Both teams have a guy named Dominic at first, but neither is Dominican.

Edgy MD Mar 09 2017 07:36 PM Re: STIGT, 3/9 DET@NYM

Edgin and Rowen split up a scoreless fifth, and Rafael Montero is on to try and continue his good spring. OE: And a ground single and long double later, the Tiggs are on the board.

Edgy MD Mar 09 2017 07:39 PM Re: STIGT, 3/9 DET@NYM

Entering the game: [list:25z0skio][*:25z0skio]L.J. Mazzilli (3b, with Guillorme sliding over to third to replace Cabrera)[/*:m:25z0skio] [*:25z0skio]Patrick Biondi (replacing Céspedes)[/*:m:25z0skio] [*:25z0skio]Luis Carpio (replacing Walker)[/*:m:25z0skio][/list:u:25z0skio] Mazz is getting a lot of PT for a guy that wasn't officially invited to camp.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 09 2017 07:41 PM Re: STIGT, 3/9 DET@NYM

Rowen is slinging a 0.00 ERA in 5 games now, I believe.

Lefty Specialist Mar 09 2017 07:46 PM Re: STIGT, 3/9 DET@NYM

Hmm. DeGrom seems to be rounding into shape nicely. Wish I could put Céspedes in bubble-wrap until Opening Day.

Ceetar Mar 09 2017 08:00 PM Re: STIGT, 3/9 DET@NYM

Kevin Kaczmarski in the game again. 25 year old never been above A ball. I assume we'll get 56 articles and posts about him tomorrow?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Mar 09 2017 08:40 PM Re: STIGT, 3/9 DET@NYM

Grouchy Area Man Doesn't Read About Favorite Team

Edgy MD Mar 09 2017 09:25 PM Re: STIGT, 3/9 DET@NYM

Nobody roots for a tie! Among other highlights, the game featured Asdrubal Cabrera doing a great job staying in a pickle for three or four throws, and then losing interest, shrugging, and running off the field without actually getting tagged.

A Boy Named Seo Mar 10 2017 01:13 AM Re: STIGT, 3/9 DET@NYM

Something got screwy with those quotes up there, Ceets. To answer you, I don't know of any data that says a player needs x amount of time to be game-ready as opposed to y amount of time. I just think you grossly underestimate how difficult it is, and how much time goes into doing this thing well at this level, especially after missing lots of time due to chronic injuries.

MFS62 Mar 10 2017 01:56 PM Re: STIGT, 3/9 DET@NYM

Ceetar wrote: Kevin Kaczmarski in the game again. 25 year old never been above A ball. I assume we'll get 56 articles and posts about him tomorrow? He went to college and IIRC he was only drafted and signed two years ago. Later