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WBC 2017- Final Four

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Mar 21 2017 01:45 AM

Beltran's beard: still weird.

Dutch: weirdly aggressive on the basepaths, making two costly outs there in the first before a Wlad Balentien 2-run longball.

All even after 1, 2-2.

MFS62
Mar 21 2017 01:55 AM
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Balentien has serious power. The announcer said he hit 60 home runs in Japan last year. The one he hit tonight went half way up the left field bleachers (of course, in LA they call it a pavilion).

Later

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Mar 21 2017 02:06 AM
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TJ Rivera (!) puts the P'uer in "Puerto Rico" with a solo shot. Ricans, 3-2 in the third.

Frayed Knot
Mar 21 2017 02:38 AM
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
Dutch: weirdly aggressive on the basepaths, making two costly outs there in the first before a Wlad Balentien 2-run longball.


That was such a ridiculous top of the 1st.
The Nets got a single, a HBP, another single, then a HR in consecutive ABs and yet only wound up with 2 runs on account of twice getting their asses picked of bases by Yadier throwing behind runners.

Edgy MD
Mar 21 2017 02:51 AM
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Well, let's spend 20 minutes reviewing this play, and then make up for it with an automatic no-pitch walk next week.

Edgy MD
Mar 21 2017 02:52 AM
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I really don't know what the call should be.

Frayed Knot
Mar 21 2017 03:07 AM
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Edgy MD wrote:
I really don't know what the call should be.


Which means it shouldn't be changed.




Well, let's spend 20 minutes reviewing this play, and then make up for it with an automatic no-pitch walk next week.


I like how Smoltz & Vasgerian mentioned the mound conversations, ten for the two teams combined while still in just the 4th inning (and it's a large part of why they're just in top 5th two hours into the game).
Loved it also how Vasgerian mentioned how last week's PR/DR game had more mound meetings than any game "since Jorge Posada was still playing".


And, as I'm typing, Molina goes out to the mound again.

Edgy MD
Mar 21 2017 03:08 AM
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The offense of this Dutch team all seems to come from the Dutch colonies in the Caribbean. The pitching staff seems half and half.

I wonder if Tim Tebow would play for the Philippines National Team.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Mar 21 2017 03:11 AM
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Nice two-out rally from the Wightin' Balentiens.

Nicer relay throw from Pagan to Lindor to Yadi F. to get Jonathan Schoop at home and keep the game knotted.

Frayed Knot
Mar 21 2017 03:19 AM
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Which will this game see more of tonight?
- replay reviews
- mound meetings
- Dutch runners thrown out on the basepaths

Edgy MD
Mar 21 2017 03:33 AM
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It's the night of bullshit slides.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Mar 21 2017 03:38 AM
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I mean, they're really good bullshit slides, to be fair.

More unsettling, for my money, is the Dodger organist playing "Get Right Back" during the last mound visit. THASS HOCKEY MOOZAK, YA PHILISTINE

Edgy MD
Mar 21 2017 03:47 AM
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
I mean, they're really good bullshit slides, to be fair.

Yeah, creative, and athletic, and aggressive, but strangely failing in the fundamental of acquiring and maintaining contact with the base.

I don't really think anything was wrong with Pagan's takeout slide.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Mar 21 2017 04:41 AM
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PR squanders a leadoff runner and a spate of Nederlander ow-ies in the 8th. Doesn't help that Yadi F. gets sac bunts down about as well as he makes tattoo-placement choices.

Fman99
Mar 21 2017 12:24 PM
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I stayed awake for about 3 innings. Fuck the left coast start times on a weeknight.

Frayed Knot
Mar 21 2017 12:32 PM
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Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Mar 21 2017 12:43 PM

I stayed awake for about 3 innings. Fuck the left coast start times on a weeknight.


What are you complaining about? It was over (slightly) before 2:00 AM!
Although if it wasn't for the 'runners on' rule starting in the 11th inning, who knows when (or even if) it would have actually ended.


I bailed after six.

Frayed Knot
Mar 21 2017 12:41 PM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
Which will this game see more of tonight?
- replay reviews
- mound meetings
- Dutch runners thrown out on the basepaths


The final answer to this one is almost certainly B) Mound Meetings (at one point there was a mid-AB pitching change on a 1-1 count for no apparent reason) although 'C' gave it a run for its money.
In addition to their base-running follies of the early innings, the Netherlands managed to hit into four inning-ending GiDPs most notably to end the 8th, 9th, and 11th innings. That'll leave a mark in a close game!



Both teams started the 11th inning off with a sac bunt to move the auto-runners up to 2nd & 3rd. Then both defenses IW'd the next hitter to load the bases and set up the force.
Netherlands grounded into the inning-ending DP in the top half of the inning. PR got a game-winning Sac-Fly after their IW in the bottom half.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Mar 22 2017 01:00 AM
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Really? LASORDA's our first-pitch honoree?

Drizzling in LA. Bad omen? Worse omen than starting Tanner Roark in a single-elimination game?

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Mar 22 2017 01:12 AM
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That's like a mountain of bad news right there

d'Kong76
Mar 22 2017 01:35 AM
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If I can stay up, I'm going for Japan... viva El Nippon!

41Forever
Mar 22 2017 02:21 AM
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They haven't had a rainout in LA in 17 years!

US with first and second with two out with McCutchen at the plate. Best chance in a while.

41Forever
Mar 22 2017 02:23 AM
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And McCutchen drives in the first run!

Frayed Knot
Mar 22 2017 02:44 AM
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41Forever wrote:
They haven't had a rainout in LA in 17 years!


Freakin' climate change!!!

d'Kong76
Mar 22 2017 02:45 AM
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I haven't been glued to this, but it's kinda boring.

Edgy MD
Mar 22 2017 02:48 AM
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I think every time I've tuned into a game in this tournament, a call is immediately blown by an ump.

Ashie62
Mar 22 2017 02:51 AM
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MFS62 wrote:
Balentien has serious power. The announcer said he hit 60 home runs in Japan last year. The one he hit tonight went half way up the left field bleachers (of course, in LA they call it a pavilion).

Later


Joran Van Sloot his 65 in the Penal league.

Edgy MD
Mar 22 2017 02:53 AM
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Balentien is a big meat ball, too. And I don't feel particularly confident that's all legit bigness.

Edgy MD
Mar 22 2017 03:22 AM
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I wonder if this field even has good big-league drainage.

Edgy MD
Mar 22 2017 03:42 AM
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Double off the wall by Kinsler. I thought Crawford was scoring but he was held.

Putting up the stop sign? Some guy named Willie Randolph.

Edgy MD
Mar 22 2017 03:43 AM
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USA takes the lead on a wet ball bobble.

Frayed Knot
Mar 22 2017 04:00 AM
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Turned out to be a good move to hold Crawford, but you had to hold him there either way. He would have been dead.

Smoltz talked early on about how good Japan's infield defense is, but both USA runs have come via infield mishaps.

I gotta admit, I had to look up who US reliever Nate Jones was (ChiSox reliever since 2012)

Edgy MD
Mar 22 2017 04:11 AM
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Wet surface robbed US of a run by slowing Crawford. (I was thinking that had he come around third at full steam, he might have wiped out.)

Then the wet surface gave them the run back when the thirdbaseman couldn't handle the ball.

Looking to build some insurance now.

Frayed Knot
Mar 22 2017 04:17 AM
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One inning for the right to go to the final vs PR.
And Jackie Stewart doesn't drink and drive.

Edgy MD
Mar 22 2017 04:19 AM
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If the US faces Puerto Rico in the final, AMERICA WINS EITHER WAY!

Edgy MD
Mar 22 2017 04:25 AM
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Edgy MD
Mar 22 2017 04:26 AM
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Opposing the US in the title game will be that filthy traitor Seth Lugo.

MFS62
Mar 22 2017 01:20 PM
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The replay rule didn't seem to lengthen the game too much. Most of them (there had been 5 when I went to sleep) were settled in less than one minute, and one was in 61 seconds. Worth the time to get the calls right.

Later

Edgy MD
Mar 22 2017 03:39 PM
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Adrian Gonzalez joins players spitting on the WBC.

It's amazing that the organizers can get so much so wrong. This can and should be great.

Mets Willets Point
Mar 22 2017 07:27 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:
The offense of this Dutch team all seems to come from the Dutch colonies in the Caribbean. The pitching staff seems half and half.

I wonder if Tim Tebow would play for the Philippines National Team.


Not colonies. Constituent countries of the Kingdom of Netherlands.

Edgy MD
Mar 22 2017 07:46 PM
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Former colonies, if you will

Benjamin Grimm
Mar 22 2017 08:17 PM
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Too bad Sweden doesn't have a team!

themetfairy
Mar 22 2017 08:35 PM
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Or Latvia!

d'Kong76
Mar 23 2017 12:50 AM
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How is Hawaii a state but not Puerto Rico?
(51 stars on the flag is probably too hard for the big heads to figure out)

Let's go Puerto Rico!!

Lefty Specialist
Mar 23 2017 01:26 AM
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I had no idea Puerto Rico had a national anthem.

metirish
Mar 23 2017 02:00 AM
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Golf Knickers commercial , for fucks sake

41Forever
Mar 23 2017 02:02 AM
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Seth Lugo looking pretty good!

OE: Nevermind.

metirish
Mar 23 2017 02:12 AM
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Something I learned from Matt, spin rates don't necessarily translate into wins

Frayed Knot
Mar 23 2017 03:03 AM
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metirish wrote:
Something I learned from Matt, spin rates don't necessarily translate into wins


And also that Marcus Stroman's hometown of Medford is in "upstate" New York.
He corrected himself a few innings later and placed the town back on Long Island where it belongs.

Frayed Knot
Mar 23 2017 03:10 AM
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Edgy MD wrote:
Adrian Gonzalez joins players spitting on the WBC.

It's amazing that the organizers can get so much so wrong.


Gonzalez is mad about Mexico losing out on the tie-breaker procedure but I don't know that the suits that run this thing got anything wrong in this case.
Short tourneys like this with tight schedules (or, hell, like the entire NFL season) are going to need some sort of tie-breaker resolutions. So while Mexico might not like coming out on the short end of
one of them, the rules governing how it would work were spelled out ahead of time. And I'm going out on a limb here by guessing that I don't think AG would be complaining if Mexico wound up
benefitting from the same rule.

Edgy MD
Mar 23 2017 03:24 AM
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d'Kong76 wrote:
How is Hawaii a state but not Puerto Rico?
(51 stars on the flag is probably too hard for the big heads to figure out)

Let's go Puerto Rico!!


Fitty-one is easy, man. Thinks get tricky after we admit DC and Guam and Virgin Islands and American Samoa and the Marianas and stuff.
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Mets Willets Point
Mar 23 2017 03:30 AM
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Stroman, the New Yorker who works in Toronto, is pitching very well for the USA in a road game in Los Angeles.

Frayed Knot
Mar 23 2017 03:31 AM
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Mets Willets Point wrote:
Stroman, the New Yorker who works in Toronto, is pitching very well for the USA in a road game in Los Angeles.


Against the home country of this mother.

Frayed Knot
Mar 23 2017 03:47 AM
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How is Hawaii a state but not Puerto Rico?


Among other reasons is that Puerto Rico doesn't want to become a state.
They've had the occasional (non-binding) vote on the issue before where voters are offered three choices: 1) statehood; 2) complete independence; 3) staying with the current Commonwealth status
Status quo tends to prevail in those polls.

themetfairy
Mar 23 2017 03:57 AM
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Our old friend Angel Pagan breaks up the no-hitter.

Mets Willets Point
Mar 23 2017 03:58 AM
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My former adoptee just broke up a no-no.

Edgy MD
Mar 23 2017 04:07 AM
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And the US just gets angrier, paying that one hit back with two runs.

Edgy MD
Mar 23 2017 04:13 AM
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Is there a mercy rule in the Championship Round?

Edgy MD
Mar 23 2017 05:00 AM
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SHMERICA!!

Edgy MD
Mar 23 2017 05:10 AM
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Great ovation for Long Island's Marcus Stroman. He looks like Tony Clark's kid out there.

bmfc1
Mar 23 2017 12:45 PM
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How is Hawaii a state but not Puerto Rico?


Among other reasons is that Puerto Rico doesn't want to become a state.
They've had the occasional (non-binding) vote on the issue before where voters are offered three choices: 1) statehood; 2) complete independence; 3) staying with the current Commonwealth status
Status quo tends to prevail in those polls.


Big Pharma is against it. This explains why: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharmaceu ... uerto_Rico

MFS62
Mar 23 2017 01:27 PM
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Mets Willets Point wrote:
Stroman, the New Yorker who works in Toronto, is pitching very well for the USA in a road game in Los Angeles.

I watched some of the game on ESPN2, It had Spanish speaking sportscasters doing it. When I tuned in, they were interviewing Commissioner Manfred and he talked about moving the next WBC to other countries. He also talked about using the replay in earlier rounds. The only reason they hadn't was lack of technical capabilities at some of the venues but that can be addressed by the next WBC.

Later, (i'm not sure if it was on MLB TV or ESPN2, they mentioned that Stroman is quite an interesting person. He went to Duke, then left when drafted into the pros. When he tore his ACL, during rehab he went back to Duke and finished up his degree. Since then, he has gone into music (with his own group) and has a clothing line. One of the announcers called Stroman a "Renaissance Man".

Later

Mets Willets Point
Mar 23 2017 02:18 PM
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The home field advantage did not help Puerto Rico in the slightest.

I'm pretty sure I heard the ESPN radio announcers say that the USA has no egos, but they have an eagle, at the end of the game.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Mar 23 2017 04:08 PM
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Mets Willets Point wrote:
The home field advantage did not help Puerto Rico in the slightest.


It kept them out of those fugly road jerseys, don;t overlook that.