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IGT 04/29 - Mets (time to rock) the Nats again

d'Kong76 Apr 29 2017 02:00 PM

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Edgy MD Apr 29 2017 02:28 PM Re: IGT 04/28 - Mets (time to rock) the Nats again

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G-Fafif Apr 29 2017 02:40 PM Re: IGT 04/28 - Mets (time to rock) the Nats again

Road rockers: Conforto LF Cabrera SS Bruce RF Walker 2B Granderson CF Reyes 3B T. Rivera 1B d'Arnaud C Wheeler P

G-Fafif Apr 29 2017 02:42 PM Re: IGT 04/28 - Mets (time to rock) the Nats again

Homely bodies: Turner SS Taylor CF Harper RF Zimmerman 1B Murphy 2B Rendon 3B Werth LF Lobaton C Strasburg P

G-Fafif Apr 29 2017 02:48 PM Re: IGT 04/28 - Mets (time to rock) the Nats again

It's IGT 04/29 time, btw.

Frayed Knot Apr 29 2017 04:07 PM Re: IGT 04/29 - Mets (time to rock) the Nats again

To no one's surprise, the Nats place Adam Eaton on the 10-day DL and recall speedster OF Rafael Bautista from AAA Syracuse. Well maybe that Bautista was the replacement is a surprise but not the part about Eaton. That one looked like it could be a couple months. One would suspect that Michael Taylor will be the mostly everyday replacement.

Ashie62 Apr 29 2017 04:57 PM Re: IGT 04/29 - Mets (time to rock) the Nats again

WPIX MASN2 1:15 PM

Edgy MD Apr 29 2017 05:29 PM Re: IGT 04/29 - Mets (time to rock) the Nats again

I'll take the one-run first. It's when you're pitching scared because the offense has dried up that you risk the three-run inning trying to dodge the one-run inning.

bmfc1 Apr 29 2017 05:31 PM Re: IGT 04/29 - Mets (time to rock) the Nats again

Before I hit the mute button, FP "Mitchell Report" Santangelo called Terry's move with Edgin "the gutsiest move I've ever seen." EVER? In all of baseball? Or in life?

Edgy MD Apr 29 2017 05:58 PM Re: IGT 04/29 - Mets (time to rock) the Nats again

Howie Rose: I'm not sold on they got the call right at second. Josh Lewin: Well, it was Angel Hernandez with the call. Howie Rose: Now, I'm not AT ALL sold.

Frayed Knot Apr 29 2017 06:04 PM Re: IGT 04/29 - Mets (time to rock) the Nats again

First thing I noticed in Friday's game was that Angel Hernandez was umping at 3rd base Second thing was the realization that it meant he wouldn't get the plate in this series.

Frayed Knot Apr 29 2017 06:08 PM Re: IGT 04/29 - Mets (time to rock) the Nats again

Good thing we got Adam Eaton out of there. There's like zero chance this leadoff walk-single doesn't come back to bite Wheeler in this inning.

Frayed Knot Apr 29 2017 06:22 PM Re: IGT 04/29 - Mets (time to rock) the Nats again

Or maybe somewhat greater than zero.

bmfc1 Apr 29 2017 06:25 PM Re: IGT 04/29 - Mets (time to rock) the Nats again

Is something wrong with Walker? He looks awful at the plate.

Frayed Knot Apr 29 2017 06:37 PM Re: IGT 04/29 - Mets (time to rock) the Nats again

But even if it's 'Obstruction', Ronnie and Gary, that doesn't mean Werth gets a freebie. The whole idea is that it's the ump's judgement about whether or not he would have gotten to the next base without it. Worth would have been out by 45 feet thanks to Walker backing it up.

Edgy MD Apr 29 2017 06:43 PM Re: IGT 04/29 - Mets (time to rock) the Nats again

Reyes not scoring from first on a double off the wall? I applaud Sherlock for holding him with no outs, but ... it's not 2005 anymore.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 29 2017 06:43 PM Re: IGT 04/29 - Mets (time to rock) the Nats again

Here we go guys.

Edgy MD Apr 29 2017 06:50 PM Re: IGT 04/29 - Mets (time to rock) the Nats again

I think we should keep Conforto.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 29 2017 06:50 PM Re: IGT 04/29 - Mets (time to rock) the Nats again

Con-Fuck-u, Steven Strassburg.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 29 2017 06:52 PM Re: IGT 04/29 - Mets (time to rock) the Nats again

Conforto got TJ off the hook for getting thrown out a third.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 29 2017 06:54 PM Re: IGT 04/29 - Mets (time to rock) the Nats again

Here's what I don't want to see in the bottom of the 5th: Terry managing with the Win stat in mind. If Wheeler gets in trouble, don't keep him in too long in search of that third out. Hopefully it won't be a factor at all. Let's have a 12-pitch, 1-2-3 inning.

Frayed Knot Apr 29 2017 06:54 PM Re: IGT 04/29 - Mets (time to rock) the Nats again

Gary: "I don't think there are any circumstances that will get Conforto out of the lineup again" Was he not paying attention last May and June?

Benjamin Grimm Apr 29 2017 06:58 PM Re: IGT 04/29 - Mets (time to rock) the Nats again

I was thinking the same thing.

Edgy MD Apr 29 2017 06:59 PM Re: IGT 04/29 - Mets (time to rock) the Nats again

This is weird. A guy comes to a new position in the middle of a crisis, more or less does fine, earns the team's faith, but develops a crippling self-confidence issue in year two. Sort of like Murphy in left, way back when.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 29 2017 07:01 PM Re: IGT 04/29 - Mets (time to rock) the Nats again

Harper with another GIDP! He's turning into Jason Bay!

Frayed Knot Apr 29 2017 07:02 PM Re: IGT 04/29 - Mets (time to rock) the Nats again

Not only is that two come-backer/GiDPs from Harper in the last four ABs, but then the really strange part ... Met pitchers fielded and threw both of them without fumbling it!!! I'm not sure that's happened on this team in a long time.

bmfc1 Apr 29 2017 07:04 PM Re: IGT 04/29 - Mets (time to rock) the Nats again Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 29 2017 07:38 PM

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Benjamin Grimm Apr 29 2017 07:08 PM Re: IGT 04/29 - Mets (time to rock) the Nats again

Terry read my post from the previous page!

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 29 2017 07:08 PM Re: IGT 04/29 - Mets (time to rock) the Nats again

Josh Edgin: National Killer

Edgy MD Apr 29 2017 07:12 PM Re: IGT 04/29 - Mets (time to rock) the Nats again

Walker, I appreciate your commitment to testing Murphy's glove, but ...

Frayed Knot Apr 29 2017 07:24 PM Re: IGT 04/29 - Mets (time to rock) the Nats again

That's right guys, the umpires indicates obstruction but allows the play to play out and then makes a call based on whether he thinks the obstruction mattered. It WAS obstruction but that doesn't make it a free base. Even Angel Hernandez got this one right!!

Edgy MD Apr 29 2017 07:25 PM Re: IGT 04/29 - Mets (time to rock) the Nats again

Let Rubbles come out for a second inning!

Edgy MD Apr 29 2017 07:30 PM Re: IGT 04/29 - Mets (time to rock) the Nats again

T.J. is somehow keeping his head above water.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 29 2017 07:46 PM Re: IGT 04/29 - Mets (time to rock) the Nats again

TJ can hit. Would be a spotty proposition if we had to replace Doodoo for more than a week or so, but I have CAHNfidence he's effective in short stints. Way to sit down Harpo again.

bmfc1 Apr 29 2017 07:48 PM Re: IGT 04/29 - Mets (time to rock) the Nats again

MASN still bitching about the non-interference call. What a bunch of babies.

Edgy MD Apr 29 2017 07:49 PM Re: IGT 04/29 - Mets (time to rock) the Nats again

Should've double-switched Blevvy into the game, so he could stick around and face Murphy.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 29 2017 07:52 PM Re: IGT 04/29 - Mets (time to rock) the Nats again

CONFORTO!

bmfc1 Apr 29 2017 07:53 PM Re: IGT 04/29 - Mets (time to rock) the Nats again

Edgy MD wrote: Should've double-switched Blevvy into the game, so he could stick around and face Murphy. Good call! Suit up, you can also coach third.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 29 2017 07:55 PM Re: IGT 04/29 - Mets (time to rock) the Nats again

Is a 2-run lead with 2 to play enough? I'm not convinced.

Frayed Knot Apr 29 2017 07:55 PM Re: IGT 04/29 - Mets (time to rock) the Nats again

Dusty should know that you can't just throw Enny old left-hander up there against Conforto.

Edgy MD Apr 29 2017 07:58 PM Re: IGT 04/29 - Mets (time to rock) the Nats again

Addy Reed. Would have liked to stick with Blevvy a few mo' batters. And Kapowie.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 29 2017 07:58 PM Re: IGT 04/29 - Mets (time to rock) the Nats again

Reed is giving away homers at a fightening rate

Edgy MD Apr 29 2017 08:00 PM Re: IGT 04/29 - Mets (time to rock) the Nats again

All three pitches to Ryan Zimbalist were middle in. It was not a healthy place to be pitching.

Frayed Knot Apr 29 2017 08:03 PM Re: IGT 04/29 - Mets (time to rock) the Nats again

Edgy MD wrote: All three pitches to Ryan Zimbalist were middle in. It was not a healthy place to be pitching. Except that that's exactly what Ronnie has been advocating all day. Except now when he's conspicuously silent on the matter. Zimmerman was obviously sitting on that inside pitch. Mets have scored in five different innings over these two games, and have given back runs in the bottom half of those same innings four times.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 29 2017 08:04 PM Re: IGT 04/29 - Mets (time to rock) the Nats again

Reed.

Edgy MD Apr 29 2017 08:04 PM Re: IGT 04/29 - Mets (time to rock) the Nats again

This game needs a whole lot of Josh Smoker.

Ashie62 Apr 29 2017 08:06 PM Re: IGT 04/29 - Mets (time to rock) the Nats again

Whew! Zimmerman must be on PEDS

Frayed Knot Apr 29 2017 08:09 PM Re: IGT 04/29 - Mets (time to rock) the Nats again

I can't hear the name Kelley/Kelly without hearing it in Robert Shaw's voice from THE STING

Edgy MD Apr 29 2017 08:12 PM Re: IGT 04/29 - Mets (time to rock) the Nats again

We should have better pinch-hit options than René Rivera. No offense, René. Love ya.

Edgy MD Apr 29 2017 08:13 PM Re: IGT 04/29 - Mets (time to rock) the Nats again

No way, José!

Frayed Knot Apr 29 2017 08:14 PM Re: IGT 04/29 - Mets (time to rock) the Nats again

Six more of those tack-on runs and I might just start to feel a little more comfortable.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 29 2017 08:15 PM Re: IGT 04/29 - Mets (time to rock) the Nats again

8-for-18 in his last five. #releasethebum

Edgy MD Apr 29 2017 08:16 PM Re: IGT 04/29 - Mets (time to rock) the Nats again

If he keeps hitting like that, the crosshairs are going to seriously shift over to Granderson.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 29 2017 08:21 PM Re: IGT 04/29 - Mets (time to rock) the Nats again

1 left. Let's Go Mets.

Edgy MD Apr 29 2017 08:23 PM Re: IGT 04/29 - Mets (time to rock) the Nats again

Howie Rose: "JER-ris"

Edgy MD Apr 29 2017 08:24 PM Re: IGT 04/29 - Mets (time to rock) the Nats again

Just awesome. Feels great to love baseball again.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 29 2017 08:24 PM Re: IGT 04/29 - Mets (time to rock) the Nats again

BOOKS

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 29 2017 08:26 PM Re: IGT 04/29 - Mets (time to rock) the Nats again

Quality win for the good guys. Bent, never broke, got a little clutchiness, Syndrome and Bill on deck.

themetfairy Apr 29 2017 08:42 PM Re: IGT 04/29 - Mets (time to rock) the Nats again

cooby Apr 29 2017 08:52 PM Re: IGT 04/29 - Mets (time to rock) the Nats again

Awesome!

Centerfield Apr 29 2017 09:03 PM Re: IGT 04/29 - Mets (time to rock) the Nats again

Great IGT. Absolutely stole that one. Don't know how Wheeler escaped the way he did but kudos to him. TC not managing to the win stat. Great observation and great job by Terry. Did not agree about the Edgin move last night but loved the call today. Never thought they would win this one until the last out today.

bmfc1 Apr 29 2017 09:06 PM Re: IGT 04/29 - Mets (time to rock) the Nats again

Sounds like Cabrera and d'Arnaud sit tomorrow. Perhaps Granderson as well?

bmfc1 Apr 30 2017 01:13 AM Re: IGT 04/29 - Mets (time to rock) the Nats again

Quote from Dusty Baker: “Before the series started, they were reeling, but at the same time, a good-pitched game can stop your reeling,” Nationals Manager Dusty Baker said. “And they’re pulling out all the stops.” What stops were the Mets pulling out? https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/n ... 8c57646cf6

Benjamin Grimm Apr 30 2017 11:10 AM Re: IGT 04/29 - Mets (time to rock) the Nats again

Cast your vote!

Frayed Knot Apr 30 2017 12:18 PM Re: IGT 04/29 - Mets (time to rock) the Nats again

bmfc1 wrote: Quote from Dusty Baker: ... “And they’re pulling out all the stops.” Says the man who at one point had three pinch-runners on base at the same time. P.S. they all got stranded

Benjamin Grimm Apr 30 2017 01:51 PM Re: IGT 04/29 - Mets (time to rock) the Nats again

Terry did two things in this series so far that defied standard orthodoxy, and I approved of both of them, and they both worked out. On Friday night, he pulled Jeurys Familia in favor of Josh Edgin. I first noticed this trend during the days of Billy Wagner, but it may go back further than that. Once a closer is in a game where there's a save opportunity, you keep him in the game, no matter how much trouble he's in, no matter how poorly he's pitching, until the lead is blown. As long as there's the slightest chance that your guy can get a save, you leave him in the game. Because getting a save for your closer is, of course, more important than getting a win for your team. And on Saturday, he gave Zack Wheeler the hook with two out in the fourth with a lead, depriving him of the chance to get the win. Again, Terry rightly put the team ahead of a statistical reward for an individual player. I don't know why it takes losing nine of ten, or ten of eleven (whatever it was) for Terry to realize that getting a win is important, but I hope the lesson sticks with him.

Edgy MD Apr 30 2017 05:12 PM Re: IGT 04/29 - Mets (time to rock) the Nats again

This was Casey Stengel's philosophy, by the way. If a player you know can play isn't playing well, there's thinking that says you stick with him, keep him in the lineup/the rotation/his role. Your loyalty to him would be rewarded in his increased confidence, and that guy would be ready to go to war for you down the stretch. Casey had none of that. He believed a manager's loyalty to his players was important. But he exercised it differently. He thought you did what you needed to do to get the win, and so show loyalty to the other 24 players who prepared and worked to win the game that day. The 25th guy? Tough noogies if he had to pull you or bench you or pinch-hit for you? But how down can you feel? Your team won, didn't they? Through much of the fifties, is rotation was often two locks—Ford and Reynolds, perphaps—and two or maybe three guys who happened to be the hot hand at any given moment. His middle infield was an interchangeable as lego blocks, and first and third and one of the outfield slots were often in flux. Getting comfortable with the flux is a good trait.

Zvon May 01 2017 03:37 AM Re: IGT 04/29 - Mets (time to rock) the Nats again

The end of this game is the seasons high point so far. I was listening to the end on WOR radio and I just could not believe that: 1) TC pulled Fammy and 2) Edgin got Harper to hit an easy grounder to the mound. I was like,"Holy fuckin' shit, the move actually worked!" I consider it to be the first Mets Magic Moment™ of 2017. [fimg=300]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/S7n7i6vDa1efP-7_AvUNg0wX_frurJfD1gpUNXytbYPeYHwOK4xgC36n4O0u-BtV88Wyb51jzkpTEcDMC6d-5emoTxqzom7OWN_2KXWyn-cyy3jnShmD9FAz_Bz9rJT6zmHq2ffkcumvPJqqBU_4hPGCSTtqmCFq9XBD9n5yoijhLTCGw-7Y1HUk1ORC0BdFZha5V8_gFOJEl4dNgwUPVrXP5XmZjei5Mh7QzbKuX8OrqDq1pNDqjC8gh_agTklRbLvrG_pTdNWKRsD4WVUjpUpEQgc83kNILZ2yysmFSN9Yl0XbtahIfJ2oDnAgoty7fvrbJj02Q-4vvBTo40pl9l3zAvsfO_mYzqpnjBn5zYp65Owqit-qBKIr4izyjWpMCjg8IOqtEGbD0ypiJSZ5llm8BLH6fSBSZEqCJu7PMxXd62SN3sbZN2efwHpgr1dBAvI1fSmWDfHazv3EN4BN8iSDzoUG7poJaURGHGEwe8wsPVTwaSL9OFhfrzm8K-VymUT_noaEdSMhZ9cI_HLrcUQvdf70qOg5IvH60FukDttVJ2uq7twNWSsCeJbRz7FSGw1QLqub3dyy3nxkHQkjLfCNN3rDyJQO87RZltmaimDmp6k_QkzI2g=w530-h745-no[/fimg]

batmagadanleadoff May 01 2017 05:03 AM Re: IGT 04/29 - Mets (time to rock) the Nats again

Edgy MD wrote: Through much of the fifties, [Stengel's] rotation was often two locks—Ford and Reynolds, perphaps—and two or maybe three guys who happened to be the hot hand at any given moment. His middle infield was an interchangeable as lego blocks, and first and third and one of the outfield slots were often in flux. That's pretty much every position player other than Mantle and Berra.

Edgy MD May 01 2017 12:25 PM Re: IGT 04/29 - Mets (time to rock) the Nats again

Loyalty shmoyalty.

Benjamin Grimm May 14 2017 11:30 AM Re: IGT 04/29 - Mets (time to rock) the Nats again