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IGT 5/2/17 Mets @ Braves Redemption

Fman99
May 02 2017 02:44 AM

One game at a time, kids.

Another 7:35 start, Hatt Marvey vs. R.A. Dickey.

Edgy MD
May 02 2017 08:09 PM
Re: IGT 5/2/17 Mets @ Braves Redemption

[table:1l190eyt][tr:1l190eyt][td:1l190eyt][fimg=250:1l190eyt]http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images/team_logos/328x328/new_york_mets.png[/fimg:1l190eyt][/td:1l190eyt][td:1l190eyt][fimg=250:1l190eyt]http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images/team_logos/328x328/atlanta_braves.png[/fimg:1l190eyt][/td:1l190eyt][/tr:1l190eyt][tr:1l190eyt][td:1l190eyt][list=1:1l190eyt][*:1l190eyt]Michael Conforto, lf[/*:m:1l190eyt]
[*:1l190eyt]Asdrubal Cabrera, ss[/*:m:1l190eyt]
[*:1l190eyt]Jay Bruce, rf[/*:m:1l190eyt]
[*:1l190eyt]Neil Walker, 2b[/*:m:1l190eyt]
[*:1l190eyt]Travis d'Arnaud, c[/*:m:1l190eyt]
[*:1l190eyt]Jose Reyes, 3b[/*:m:1l190eyt]
[*:1l190eyt]T.J. Rivera, 1b[/*:m:1l190eyt]
[*:1l190eyt]Juan Lagares, cv[/*:m:1l190eyt]
[*:1l190eyt]Matt Harvey, sp[/*:m:1l190eyt][/list:o:1l190eyt][/td:1l190eyt][td:1l190eyt][list=1:1l190eyt][*:1l190eyt]Ender Inciarte, cf[/*:m:1l190eyt]
[*:1l190eyt]Brandon Phillips, 2b[/*:m:1l190eyt]
[*:1l190eyt]Freddie Freeman, 1b[/*:m:1l190eyt]
[*:1l190eyt]Matt Kemp, lf[/*:m:1l190eyt]
[*:1l190eyt]Nick Markakis, rf[/*:m:1l190eyt]
[*:1l190eyt]Adonis Garcia, 3b[/*:m:1l190eyt]
[*:1l190eyt]Kurt Suzuki, c[/*:m:1l190eyt]
[*:1l190eyt]Dansby Swanson, ss[/*:m:1l190eyt]
[*:1l190eyt]R.A. Dickey, sp[/*:m:1l190eyt][/list:o:1l190eyt][/td:1l190eyt][/tr:1l190eyt][/table:1l190eyt]

G-Fafif
May 02 2017 08:14 PM
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Juan Lagares is so good he can cover most of the alphabet, from f to v.

seawolf17
May 02 2017 08:22 PM
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G-Fafif wrote:
Juan Lagares is so good he can cover most of the alphabet, from f to v.

No, he's sharing his c.v. tonight, which includes three peer-reviewed papers published in Centerfielders Quarterly.

G-Fafif
May 02 2017 08:23 PM
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seawolf17 wrote:
G-Fafif wrote:
Juan Lagares is so good he can cover most of the alphabet, from f to v.

No, he's sharing his c.v. tonight, which includes three peer-reviewed papers published in Centerfielders Quarterly.


It is vitae we win tonight.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
May 02 2017 08:30 PM
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Walker has to have the lowest slugging percentage of any cleanup hitter in the history of baseball

I do like seeing d'Arnaud creep ahead. I don't think hitting him 8th is good for him in particular

Benjamin Grimm
May 02 2017 08:35 PM
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Somewhat surprisingly, given how awful he was until just recently, Jose Reyes is the only remaining player to have appeared in every game this season.

I'm starting to think that his deathwatch has shifted to Curtis Granderson.

seawolf17
May 02 2017 08:41 PM
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Benjamin Grimm wrote:
Somewhat surprisingly, given how awful he was until just recently, Jose Reyes is the only remaining player to have appeared in every game this season.

I'm starting to think that his deathwatch has shifted to Curtis Granderson.

Reyes is riding a 7-game hitting streak, at least. Granderson's OPS+ is 4. FOUR.

FOUR.[/bigpurple]

Among all 185 MLBers with enough qualifying ABs, he's the worst. By a lot. His .124 BA and .177 OBP are both the worst, and it's only his triple and home run that keeps his .213 SLG ahead of Byron Buxton of the Twins.

Frayed Knot
May 02 2017 08:45 PM
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There's been no 'Granderson Suxx' thread this year. How can we possibly expect him to improve?

TransMonk
May 02 2017 08:58 PM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
There's been no 'Granderson Suxx' thread this year. How can we possibly expect him to improve?

I was thinking of this last night, too.

Benjamin Grimm
May 02 2017 09:04 PM
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I think Curtis' playing time has to diminish. (Unless Conforto goes into another post-April tailspin!) Against lefties I'd go with an outfield of Bruce, Conforto, and Lagares. And against righties, maybe Nimmo gets some of Granderson's starts once he gets back. And hopefully Cespedes is back soon (who knows?) and that would create even more pressure to have Curtis sit.

Edgy MD
May 02 2017 09:36 PM
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There's also Flores returning, and hopefully Duda isn't too far out. Two more infielders keeps Jay Bruce in the outfield. All this pressure is pointing at Curtis Granderson.

I think he'd probably be a perfectly fine pinch-hitter. It'd make it take that much longer to dig out of is hole, though, so he's going to have to look up at the scoreboard and see some wretched numbers no matter how decent he is doing going forward.

When he got signed for four years, I thought he'd be shifted to part time/reserve status in year three, so I already feel like anything we get from him his a bonus. I'd hate to waste too many PA going forward and not getting anything from him, however.

Or maybe he goes in trade for a relatively expensive, historically decent-to-good starting pitcher who has gotten off to an horrendous start. Bronson Arroyo or somebody. Heck, maybe Bartolo.

Edgy MD
May 03 2017 12:05 AM
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Dickems not getting the low strike.

Edgy MD
May 03 2017 12:09 AM
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Larry Vanover with the de rigueur terrible call at first.

Lefty Specialist
May 03 2017 12:23 AM
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Harvester just not looking right.

Ashie62
May 03 2017 12:29 AM
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[bigpurple:3mlmkugf]CABOOM[/bigpurple:3mlmkugf]

Ashie62
May 03 2017 12:29 AM
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Lefty Specialist wrote:
Harvester just not looking right.


My thought also.

Edgy MD
May 03 2017 12:40 AM
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Lefty Specialist wrote:
Harvester just not looking right.

Looks detached in a weird way.

Edgy MD
May 03 2017 12:52 AM
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Could Harvey have been a bigger cock here?

Edgy MD
May 03 2017 01:01 AM
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Edgy MD
May 03 2017 01:13 AM
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Man, not only is Harvey no match for an old, rusty, and gimpy knuckleguy, but the Braves have brought their glovies.

Frayed Knot
May 03 2017 01:23 AM
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We've been getting "Out-D'd" this whole series.
Most recent series too.

Herb Gardner
May 03 2017 01:23 AM
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Edgy MD wrote:
Could Harvey have been a bigger cock here?



This is a metirish type of comment

Excellent!

Herb Gardner
May 03 2017 01:24 AM
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Btw cooby is locked out

MFS62
May 03 2017 01:35 AM
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Freddie f'n Freeman.
I hat that guy.

Later

Edgy MD
May 03 2017 01:37 AM
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Herb Gardner wrote:
Btw cooby is locked out

Please check your mail for cooby's new password.

Chad Ochoseis
May 03 2017 01:39 AM
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Fortunately, Lagares brought his arm.

I wasn't watching for an inning or two. Why is Plawecki catching now?

d'Kong76
May 03 2017 01:39 AM
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Herb Gardner wrote:
Btw cooby is locked out

That happened to me over the weekend. Kept getting a you've tried to
sign on too many times and had to do a captcha thing or whatever it's
called which didn't work.

Edgy MD
May 03 2017 01:42 AM
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The Curtis Granderson-as-pinchie experiment gets off to an ignoble start.

Chad Ochoseis
May 03 2017 01:42 AM
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It's May now, Curtis. You can start hitting anytime you'd like.

Edgy MD
May 03 2017 01:43 AM
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Five-pitch inning.

Take a few, guys.

Frayed Knot
May 03 2017 01:53 AM
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Not to imply that the Braves haven't been earning their hits ... but do they EVER hit stuff at people?
Everything they put their bats on, whether hard hit or not, is between fielders, in front of fielders, just beyond fielders etc.

Edgy MD
May 03 2017 02:03 AM
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Maybe we can improve on this four-hit total against Eric O'Flaherty.

Fman99
May 03 2017 02:08 AM
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Edgy MD
May 03 2017 02:14 AM
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Four walks, but Dickey was all over the place.

Frayed Knot
May 03 2017 02:23 AM
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Edgy MD wrote:
Larry Vanover with the de rigueur terrible call at first.


x2

Edgy MD
May 03 2017 02:24 AM
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Questionable call at first ... AGAIN!

Edgy MD
May 03 2017 02:24 AM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
Edgy MD wrote:
Larry Vanover with the de rigueur terrible call at first.


x2

Thanks.

Edgy MD
May 03 2017 02:25 AM
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Keep taking that first strike, Mets.

Edgy MD
May 03 2017 02:26 AM
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And Cabrera hacks at pitch one. What in the world?

d'Kong76
May 03 2017 02:28 AM
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This game has been one tedious suck.

d'Kong76
May 03 2017 02:29 AM
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And with that, Bruce grand kaboomaslams...

Fman99
May 03 2017 02:29 AM
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Wow, KABOOM AGAIN.

If only the bullpen had not shat upon the mound so greatly.

Edgy MD
May 03 2017 02:34 AM
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Jay Bruce, rally killer.

Frayed Knot
May 03 2017 02:51 AM
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Good thing we didn't spin off Bruce for the proverbial bag of balls during the off-season. We be practically winless without him.

Frayed Knot
May 03 2017 02:56 AM
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Nats lose ... so there's that.

Ashie62
May 03 2017 04:19 AM
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Just two thoughts.

1. Was that the real Matt Harvey out there? He had little on his pitches and just looked depressed or something.

2. If we really do suck you may not get more in a trade for Jay Bruce than now. Just sayin if we move to sale time.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
May 03 2017 10:57 AM
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Felt like this game was worse than Sunday's in some ways.

I'm afraid Smokey needs a few weeks in AAA to work out his shit. Didn't stick around to hear what external factor Harvey will blame this one on but this outing was the kind of thing I would have expected if he hadn't fooled me first by starting the season off so acceptably okay.

I admit I was watching Saul on DVR when Bruce connected, that's how bad it was from my perspective.

Herb Gardner
May 03 2017 11:51 AM
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d'Kong76 wrote:
Herb Gardner wrote:
Btw cooby is locked out

That happened to me over the weekend. Kept getting a you've tried to
sign on too many times and had to do a captcha thing or whatever it's
called which didn't work.

Exactly! And it's still doing it even with Edgy new password.

MFS62
May 03 2017 12:55 PM
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On the post game show, Nelson Figueroa said Harvey had good velocity and had 4 different pitches working, but didn't have command of them. And he kept saying it over and over, like he is getting paid by the word.
But one other thing he said that was interesting was that all of his pitches were on the outside half of the plate, he never went inside and the Braves were looking there every at bat. But he never questioned why the catcher didn't set up differently and kept calling for the outside pitches.

Later

Frayed Knot
May 03 2017 02:20 PM
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On the post game show, Nelson Figueroa said Harvey had good velocity and had 4 different pitches working, but didn't have command of them. And he kept saying it over and over, like he is getting paid by the word.
But one other thing he said that was interesting was that all of his pitches were on the outside half of the plate, he never went inside and the Braves were looking there every at bat. But he never questioned why the catcher didn't set up differently and kept calling for the outside pitches.



All I know is that Freddie was right on every pitch Harvey threw. He fouled some off but even those were liners he was either a bit early or late on and he was spitting on those offerings that were off the plate.
That his first AB ended in a long HR was the least surprising outcome of the night.

Edgy MD
May 03 2017 02:28 PM
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His command did not look like him at all. Nor did his motion.

Meanwhile, Dickey's command was non-existent. His ball had movement, but he was clearly laboring out there and wasn't close to spotting anything, resorting to throwing first-pitch fastballs to try and get ahead by the third. The Mets should've stood there and forced him to throw strikes and let him sink himself.

I realize the book goes out the window with a knuckleballer, but ...

Benjamin Grimm
May 03 2017 03:00 PM
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Cast your vote!

cooby
May 03 2017 06:58 PM
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Ashie62 wrote:
Just two thoughts.

1. Was that the real Matt Harvey out there? He had little on his pitches and just looked depressed or something.

2. If we really do suck you may not get more in a trade for Jay Bruce than now. Just sayin if we move to sale time.

You'd think that now that he's head cheese again he'd be happy

d'Kong76
May 03 2017 07:21 PM
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Well, for me deGrom is now the head cheese but fan mileage may vary.

Benjamin Grimm
May 03 2017 07:39 PM
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I agree. DeGrom is now the ace of the staff.

cooby
May 03 2017 07:41 PM
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That's what I think too but who knows what Harvey thinks

Benjamin Grimm
May 03 2017 07:44 PM
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That's what I think too but who knows what Harvey thinks


My guess:

cooby
May 03 2017 07:46 PM
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lol lol. All the time!

Benjamin Grimm
May 28 2017 12:52 PM
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