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UMDB Dataqueries, 2017
| Edgy MD Apr 13 2017 04:48 PM |
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What has been the longest drought a Mets player has had between victories, without leaving the organization? Presumably, Wheeler has to have achieved top ten status, if not the big kahuna.
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| Benjamin Grimm Apr 13 2017 05:18 PM Re: UMDB Dataqueries, 2017 |
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Mets who have gone more than 600 days between wins. There's no filter here on whether or not each pitcher left the organization. The last column is the number of days.
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| G-Fafif Apr 13 2017 05:36 PM Re: UMDB Dataqueries, 2017 |
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Orosco, Franco and McGraw never left the organization. Leach did but didn't play in the majors while he was away.
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| Ceetar Apr 13 2017 05:37 PM Re: UMDB Dataqueries, 2017 |
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nor did Pedro Feliciano
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| Edgy MD Apr 13 2017 05:52 PM Re: UMDB Dataqueries, 2017 |
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Well, we can more-or-less eyeball who the recidivist Mets are there.
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| G-Fafif Apr 13 2017 05:55 PM Re: UMDB Dataqueries, 2017 |
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True, but I was looking only for those whose wait was longer than Zack's.
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| G-Fafif Apr 13 2017 05:57 PM Re: UMDB Dataqueries, 2017 |
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Hunter and Orosco both knew how to make up for lost time, each eventually winning both ends of doubleheaders post-dry spell.
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| Ceetar Apr 13 2017 05:59 PM Re: UMDB Dataqueries, 2017 |
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My bad, I just assumed that was Feliciano from his departure to the medical offices of the Yankees which I knew was longer than Wheeler, but alas he did not get a win when he came back. His stretch was from much earlier when presumably he was also injured. (his time between losses however, is greater)
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| Edgy MD Apr 13 2017 06:04 PM Re: UMDB Dataqueries, 2017 |
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Breaking camp in 1979 was some pretty weird stuff, with the Mets taking north guys who clearly weren't ready and wouldn't seriously contribute to a big league team for years (Orosco, Chapman, Scott), as well as a guy who would retire (but first appear as a Met on SNL) because he couldn't agree on a big league salary (Briles).
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| G-Fafif Apr 13 2017 06:11 PM Re: UMDB Dataqueries, 2017 |
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Pedro spent 2005 in Japan and 2003 in the Tigers' organization, but ultimately, he just couldn't quit us.
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| G-Fafif Apr 13 2017 06:14 PM Re: UMDB Dataqueries, 2017 |
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Chapman is the closest position player allegory I can come up with for Wheeler, his having spent four full seasons in the minors between stints, except in Kelvin's case, there weren't periodic updates as to his whereabouts because we'd pretty much forgotten he ever existed. Still blows my mind to have looked at box scores in '84 and seen Chapman 2B. Briles was released because he would have made $60K. Even for 1979, that was, if not peanuts, then legumes. Ladies and gentlemen, the de Roulet administration.
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| Edgy MD Apr 13 2017 06:45 PM Re: UMDB Dataqueries, 2017 |
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I associate Chapman with Anderson Hernandez and Brad Emaus. Opening day secondbasemen that in the light of spring in Florida, caused some important suit to think, "You know, why not? In fact, hell yeah! That guy has a certain something and if we put him at the keystone, and give him enough chances, there's every chance that he might stick!"
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| Benjamin Grimm Apr 13 2017 06:51 PM Re: UMDB Dataqueries, 2017 |
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I associate him with Wally Backman and (I think) Ron Gardenhire. Guys who spent a lot of time in the minors during the Torre/Bamberger years and caught the eye of Davey Johnson and got a fresh chance in the big leagues when Davey was promoted to manage the Mets.
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| G-Fafif Apr 13 2017 07:03 PM Re: UMDB Dataqueries, 2017 |
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I think of wine and how his career went sideways, as described in this George Vecsey column from his renaissance.
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| G-Fafif Apr 13 2017 07:13 PM Re: UMDB Dataqueries, 2017 |
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Agree on Emaus, which was wacky. Hernandez had shown some real glove the September before, plus Kaz Matsui was on the DL to start 2006, so what the hell? Anderson flew across the infield early that divisional championship season, broke a hamate bone shortly thereafter, caused a surge in the search term "hamate bone" among Mets fans and was never an essential part of the plan once Jose Valentin locked in at second. Thinking back, Matsui, Hernandez, the ghost of Jeff Keppinger and maybe somebody else were all ahead of Valentin on the 2B depth chart in Spring Training and it took until May, when desperation set in, for Other Jose to emerge from pinch-hitting purgatory and become a home run-socking Internet meme of sorts (his mustache was kind of a big deal). Which goes to show you how worthless Spring Training can be.
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| Edgy MD Apr 13 2017 07:21 PM Re: UMDB Dataqueries, 2017 |
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That was one of Willie's great decisions. Fans were clamoring for José Valentín to be released based on his pinch-hitting numbers, and lamenting (amazingly) the loss of Miguel Cairo, and Willie was all, "José, get ready."
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| G-Fafif Apr 13 2017 07:26 PM Re: UMDB Dataqueries, 2017 |
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Boone was spring of 2005. Diaz was more versatile than I realized. Your larger point...yes, a thousand times. Other Jose was being pushed out the door faster than the Original Jose could run from home to third in those days -- even faster than scenarios in which Original Jose 2.0 is being exit-strategyed based on a dismal week. It's hard to not react, but it shouldn't be that hard to not overreact.
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| Ceetar Apr 13 2017 07:31 PM Re: UMDB Dataqueries, 2017 |
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speaking of baseball queries..any of you recently set up a DB? I found a nice SQL Server dump of statlines, but it doesn't let me delve into play by play type stuff like baserunners.
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| Frayed Knot Apr 13 2017 07:48 PM Re: UMDB Dataqueries, 2017 |
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I remember being a passenger on that Brad Emaus bandwagon.
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| G-Fafif Apr 13 2017 07:55 PM Re: UMDB Dataqueries, 2017 |
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I had the feeling Emaus got the gig because Sandy thought, in so many words, "ah, screw it, it's only the Mets."
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| Edgy MD Apr 13 2017 08:00 PM Re: UMDB Dataqueries, 2017 |
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He was the Rule V guy, so it made sense to look at him first if they had any hope at all.
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| John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 13 2017 08:16 PM Re: UMDB Dataqueries, 2017 |
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I was hopeful they'd found something in Emaus since it was plainly obvious the club at that time needed cheap solutions wherever they could find them. That was the year of Mike O'Connor and Chris Capuano, and of trading Beltran and Krod.
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| G-Fafif Apr 13 2017 08:17 PM Re: UMDB Dataqueries, 2017 |
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You are correct, sir! Met-a culpa. History will have a hard time grasping Emaus prevailing over future All-Star and serviceable second baseman Daniel Murphy for starting purposes, but ya kinda hadta be there.
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| Edgy MD Apr 13 2017 08:39 PM Re: UMDB Dataqueries, 2017 |
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Boone really had an emotional finish.
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| G-Fafif Apr 13 2017 08:47 PM Re: UMDB Dataqueries, 2017 |
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Now that you've helped me reassign him accurately in time, it turns out I was kinda prickly regarding his quittage in 2006.
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| John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 14 2017 02:38 AM Re: UMDB Dataqueries, 2017 |
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Good stuff
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| Valadius Apr 14 2017 03:46 PM Re: UMDB Dataqueries, 2017 |
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Wow. I had completely and totally forgotten about Brad Emaus.
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