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Dedicated to the Worst Manager in Mets History (/rollseyes)

batmagadanleadoff
Apr 17 2017 06:12 AM
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Lefty Specialist
Apr 17 2017 10:28 AM
Re: Dedicated to the Worst Manager in Mets History (/rollsey

So, just one question- was John Stearns running as a Republican or a Democrat?

MFS62
Apr 17 2017 01:35 PM
Re: Dedicated to the Worst Manager in Mets History (/rollsey

Several of them managed the Mets, and one of them won a Championship.
But the worst?
And, a Dick Stuart Phillies card in his Pirates uni? Funny.

Later

cooby
Apr 17 2017 05:44 PM
Re: Dedicated to the Worst Manager in Mets History (/rollsey

That's a lot of pictures!

I never liked Davey Johnson

41Forever
Apr 17 2017 08:55 PM
Re: Dedicated to the Worst Manager in Mets History (/rollsey

cooby wrote:
That's a lot of pictures!

I never liked Davey Johnson


Explain!

SteveJRogers
Apr 17 2017 10:53 PM
Re: Dedicated to the Worst Manager in Mets History (/rollsey

MFS62 wrote:
Several of them managed the Mets, and one of them won a Championship.
But the worst?
And, a Dick Stuart Phillies card in his Pirates uni? Funny.

Later


Dallas Green probably qualifies, depending on how much you blame his "pitch until your arm falls off" mentality hurt his crop of Met future aces.

Ashie62
Apr 17 2017 11:57 PM
Re: Dedicated to the Worst Manager in Mets History (/rollsey

Buddy?

SteveJRogers
Apr 18 2017 12:16 AM
Re: Dedicated to the Worst Manager in Mets History (/rollsey

Ashie62 wrote:
Buddy?


Buddy didn't have a hand of literally systematically ruining an entire generation of highly touted Met pitching prospects.

MFS62
Apr 18 2017 12:45 AM
Re: Dedicated to the Worst Manager in Mets History (/rollsey

Unless this is a trick question, I would have voted "Dallas Green" too.

Later

Ashie62
Apr 18 2017 12:54 AM
Re: Dedicated to the Worst Manager in Mets History (/rollsey

SteveJRogers wrote:
Ashie62 wrote:
Buddy?


Buddy didn't have a hand of literally systematically ruining an entire generation of highly touted Met pitching prospects.


I guess you mean "Generation K"?

Arms go, how is Dallas responsible??

cooby
Apr 18 2017 12:56 AM
Re: Dedicated to the Worst Manager in Mets History (/rollsey

41Forever wrote:
cooby wrote:
That's a lot of pictures!

I never liked Davey Johnson


Explain!


I just didnt

batmagadanleadoff
Apr 18 2017 01:05 AM
Re: Dedicated to the Worst Manager in Mets History (/rollsey

MFS62 wrote:
Unless this is a trick question, I would have voted "Dallas Green" too.

Later


Oh, c'mon peoples. This isn't even remotely debatable among the candidates in this thread.

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cooby
Apr 18 2017 01:31 AM
Re: Dedicated to the Worst Manager in Mets History (/rollsey

I was going to say Larry Bowa but he never managed them right?

SteveJRogers
Apr 18 2017 02:40 AM
Re: Dedicated to the Worst Manager in Mets History (/rollsey

Ashie62 wrote:
Ashie62 wrote:
Buddy?


Buddy didn't have a hand of literally systematically ruining an entire generation of highly touted Met pitching prospects.


I guess you mean "Generation K"?

Arms go, how is Dallas responsible??


True no one is looking at Collins for the years of missed time between Matz, Wheeler and Harvey, but there are plenty of places that put part of the blame for Wilson and Pulsipher washing out, and Isringhausen having to be reinvented as a closer on Green's over working them at the big league level. Even Green himself had admitted mistakes in over reliance on the old school "can never throw enough" mindset.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Apr 18 2017 03:07 AM
Re: Dedicated to the Worst Manager in Mets History (/rollsey

Batmags thinks Willie Randolph is the worst mgr in Mets history IIRC, but I'm not making a connection to the thread.

batmagadanleadoff
Apr 18 2017 03:25 AM
Re: Dedicated to the Worst Manager in Mets History (/rollsey

Batmags thinks Willie Randolph is the worst mgr in Mets history IIRC, but I'm not making a connection to the thread.



What are you doing posting at 11:07PM? Weren't you watching Better Call Saul?

FYI -- I'd rank the Mets worst managers as Dallas (worst) and Willie (next worst). You know how much I hated Willie because of this forum, whereas there wasn't even an internet, let alone the CPF during Dallas's reign of terror and general arm shredding. But the loathe factor was especially high for Willie given how good a team he inherited and had to work with. Hey! That's a discussion for another thread: Which Mets manager inherited the best squad to begin his tenure? I suppose it's either Davey or Willie.

Edgy MD
Apr 18 2017 03:35 AM
Re: Dedicated to the Worst Manager in Mets History (/rollsey

Torborg.

41Forever
Apr 18 2017 12:43 PM
Re: Dedicated to the Worst Manager in Mets History (/rollsey

Edgy MD wrote:
Torborg.



I was thinking maybe Art Howe, but you might be right with Torborg.

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 18 2017 12:47 PM
Re: Dedicated to the Worst Manager in Mets History (/rollsey

Or Berra.

G-Fafif
Apr 18 2017 01:23 PM
Re: Dedicated to the Worst Manager in Mets History (/rollsey

One of my prouder moments as a fan was being the first among the attendance on a Saturday afternoon in May of 1993 to start booing the face of Jeff Torborg as it appeared on DiamondVision plugging the optical firm he was paid to endorse. The boos were picked up from there and they became the predominant reaction. A couple of weeks later, he was gone.

You're welcome.

Torborg was the worst. Green, by dint of not being Torborg, can't rank any lower than next-to-last.

G-Fafif
Apr 18 2017 01:29 PM
Re: Dedicated to the Worst Manager in Mets History (/rollsey

batmagadanleadoff wrote:
there wasn't even an internet, let alone the CPF during Dallas's reign of terror and general arm shredding.


Seminal internet activity existed within the grasp of the general public between May of 1993 and August of 1996. Dallas Green was the manager of record when I first stumbled into electronic baseball communications in April of 1994. I used it initially to promote the cause of Josias Manzanillo for closer. But did Dallas listen?

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 18 2017 01:35 PM
Re: Dedicated to the Worst Manager in Mets History (/rollsey

.

Memories of Jeff Torborg

"Bonbolito" stakes an earlier claim than G-Fafif to the concept of booing Torborg on the DiamondVision.

I like this line from Larry Burns: "I would not hire him to manage an Arby's unless I wanted it to go out of business with as much acrimony and bitterness as humanly possible."

G-Fafif
Apr 18 2017 01:40 PM
Re: Dedicated to the Worst Manager in Mets History (/rollsey

More like BOOOnbolito.

SteveJRogers
Apr 18 2017 02:14 PM
Re: Dedicated to the Worst Manager in Mets History (/rollsey

G-Fafif wrote:
batmagadanleadoff wrote:
there wasn't even an internet, let alone the CPF during Dallas's reign of terror and general arm shredding.


Seminal internet activity existed within the grasp of the general public between May of 1993 and August of 1996. Dallas Green was the manager of record when I first stumbled into electronic baseball communications in April of 1994. I used it initially to promote the cause of Josias Manzanillo for closer. But did Dallas listen?


Just to piggyback, MetsOnline literally was created due to Bryan Hoch's desire for an online outlet to discuss the potential of the Big Three of GenK. And the site, forum, etc was launched during Green's wanning days.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Apr 19 2017 04:38 AM
Re: Dedicated to the Worst Manager in Mets History (/rollsey

Edgy MD wrote:
Torborg.


Yyyyyyep. And a Westfielder to boot.

Ashie62
Apr 19 2017 04:38 PM
Re: Dedicated to the Worst Manager in Mets History (/rollsey

Torborg, sorry Rutgers.