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Harvey Suspended!

Frayed Knot May 07 2017 03:07 PM

Three days without pay for "violating team rules" ESPN: Mets general manager Sandy Alderson would not disclose Harvey's infraction, only saying that he was sent home. Left-hander Adam Wilk replaces Harvey as the Mets' starter Sunday against the Marlins.

Edgy MD May 07 2017 03:13 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Yeah, we're all over it in the IGT. Speculation is that he's the dildo boy. But another thought is that he did his last start hung over. You can be sure we'll know within 90 minutes.

Frayed Knot May 07 2017 03:20 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

I first just saw a HARVEY SUSPENDED banner on the crawl as I flicked past ESPN. Being ESPN they weren't actually talking about it of course (there are meaningless basketball games to analyze ad nauseum) but there it was and my immediate reaction was either PEDs or JCL's long-predicted cocaine bust come true, and once you've got those options in your head the details of this one actually qualify as good news. I'd hate to think that the team would get this upset about a dildo strategically placed in Plawecki's locker -- like there's a sports locker room without something not suitable for public viewing floating around somewhere!! -- if that's what it indeed turns out to be. On the other hand I haven't got any other guesses.

d'Kong76 May 07 2017 03:23 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

I want to speculate, damn do I want to speculate!! I'll behave.

Edgy MD May 07 2017 03:28 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Go crazy. I'd hate for you to leave the speculation to other sordid minds.

Ashie62 May 07 2017 03:55 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Frayed Knot wrote: I first just saw a HARVEY SUSPENDED banner on the crawl as I flicked past ESPN. Being ESPN they weren't actually talking about it of course (there are meaningless basketball games to analyze ad nauseum) but there it was and my immediate reaction was either PEDs or JCL's long-predicted cocaine bust come true, and once you've got those options in your head the details of this one actually qualify as good news. I'd hate to think that the team would get this upset about a dildo strategically placed in Plawecki's locker -- like there's a sports locker room without something not suitable for public viewing floating around somewhere!! -- if that's what it indeed turns out to be. On the other hand I haven't got any other guesses. Put it in d'arnaud's locker.

cooby May 07 2017 03:56 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Three days for drugs? Nah. Dildo or something. It's probably one of his girlfriends' and he borrowed it.

cooby May 07 2017 03:57 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Though I must say, suspending a guy for a locker room stunt is a little over the top. Talk about stifling (sp?)

Benjamin Grimm May 07 2017 04:00 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

If it's about the dildo this is an extreme overreaction. If he did the dildo thing they should fine him $1,000 and have him make a public apology. Nothing more than that. I expect it's something else. But I have no idea what that something else may be.

Ashie62 May 07 2017 04:00 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

According to Barstool (ugh) a black dildo was placed behind T.J. Rivera in a tweeted photo.

Ashie62 May 07 2017 04:01 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Benjamin Grimm wrote: If it's about the dildo this is an extreme overreaction. If he did the dildo thing they should fine him $1,000 and have him make a public apology. Nothing more than that. I expect it's something else. But I have no idea what that something else may be. I agree with you but do believe a sex toy is at the crux of this.

cooby May 07 2017 04:03 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Ashie62 wrote: According to Barstool (ugh) a black dildo was placed behind T.J. Rivera in a tweeted photo. Well a racist prank would be worth some punishment...

Ashie62 May 07 2017 04:21 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

If it is the tweet is leaves a "black mark" on Harvey's career.

bmfc1 May 07 2017 04:44 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Thanks Paul: [tweet:1doiu6p5]https://twitter.com/paulloduca16/status/861255362472587264[/tweet:1doiu6p5]

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 07 2017 04:47 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Wow. It's not dildo related carig said. It's obviously nightlife related. It will come out.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 07 2017 04:48 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Wow. It's not dildo related carig said. It's obviously nightlife related. It will come out.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 07 2017 04:53 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Wow. It's not dildo related carig said. It's obviously nightlife related. It will come out. Hangover/up all night Wednesday, before spot start. Book it.

Edgy MD May 07 2017 04:55 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Tend to agree.

cooby May 07 2017 04:55 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Doc Ellis he is not

bmfc1 May 07 2017 05:07 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Wow. It's not dildo related carig said. It's obviously nightlife related. It will come out. Hangover/up all night Wednesday, before spot start. Book it. That was my guess (only a guess). That was really his "heavy workout" so he wasn't ready to start when needed.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 07 2017 05:12 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Unless he's fantastic-- like, sociopath good-- at wearing this persona for public consumption...there's no WAY Harvey is the prankster, is there? Is there ANYTHING about the guy that says "whimsy" (even frat-boy whimsy) to you?

Benjamin Grimm May 07 2017 05:17 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

I think it's hilarious that a reporter has to clarify that the suspension is "not dildo-related."

MFS62 May 07 2017 06:06 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

cooby wrote: Doc Ellis he is not That was my thought when reading the first posts in this thread. And Ellis tossed a no hitter while tripping on LSD. It reminds me of the famous comment when a woman told President Lincoln that General Grant drank!(alcohol) Lincoln said that he wanted to find out what Grant drank and send a case of it to his other Generals. If Harvey showed up in the clubhouse before today's game totally blasted, I'd wait to see how well he pitches (a la Ellis) and then reprimand him. Now, I'll continue reading this, and other threads, to find out more. But I had to respond to Cooby. Later

metirish May 07 2017 06:07 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

DId he take a jaunt up to Ottawa for the Rangers game perhaps? I tend to agree this is nightlife related

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 07 2017 06:14 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

[tweet:1bip0tfs]https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/861282837890203648[/tweet:1bip0tfs]

metirish May 07 2017 06:16 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Didn't his suspension start yesterday though?

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 07 2017 06:18 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

metirish wrote: Didn't his suspension start yesterday though? Maybe they enacted it once it was clear he was late

bmfc1 May 07 2017 06:19 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

[tweet:u229kjs2]https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/861283076114132994[/tweet:u229kjs2]

metirish May 07 2017 06:24 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: metirish wrote: Didn't his suspension start yesterday though? Maybe they enacted it once it was clear he was late Yeah, plenty are speculating that it's a build up of incidents too. Nothing would surprise me

MFS62 May 07 2017 06:25 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

bmfc1 wrote: [tweet]https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/861283076114132994[/tweet] Who on the Mets medical staff had the diagnosis that it wasn't migraines? Later

d'Kong76 May 07 2017 06:29 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Wonder what Harv's doing... watching, sleeping, jello shots?

A Boy Named Seo May 07 2017 06:37 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

The Johnny Manziel career model is not one to aspire to.

Benjamin Grimm May 07 2017 06:45 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

And he's not even pitching well enough to be traded.

metirish May 07 2017 08:22 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Harney to file a grievance

Ashie62 May 07 2017 09:12 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

He should file a grievance against the effect of hangovers. Migraines my azz.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 07 2017 09:25 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

I don't see this ending well for anyone. The Mets have to know that too so there's likely a whole lot of shit under the bridge already. I hate to pat my intuition on the back but as I've been saying for five years Harvey was and is, a complete douchebag.

Ashie62 May 07 2017 10:25 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

The Oakland A's have been bringing in douchebags for a generation.

Edgy MD May 07 2017 10:32 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I don't see this ending well for anyone. The Mets have to know that too so there's likely a whole lot of shit under the bridge already. I hate to pat my intuition on the back but as I've been saying for five years Harvey was and is, a complete douchebag. From the day he showed up to camp. Disappointing is that his attitude has seemingly bled into Syndergaard's outlook and has the potential to fracture the clubhouse. Festering wounds lead to spreading infections.

Benjamin Grimm May 07 2017 10:47 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Buster Olney wrote: Harvey’s time with the Mets could be nearing an end. If they continue to be crushed by injuries, this season of promise could be turned into a rebuilding situation, and it might make sense for them to dangle Harvey on the trade market and move him, even if they feel they’re getting less than equal value. They’ve seen him at his best and they know firsthand about his worst, and it may be time for the Mets and Harvey to go their separate ways in a professional divorce. They know he’ll probably move on through free agency anyway. Harvey’s days as the toast of New York are part of the past. But the more pertinent question about Harvey is his own investment in himself. He is 28 years old, and it’s up to Harvey whether he’ll be able to look back at his suspension as a turning point. If it isn’t, his time as a major league pitcher could end a lot sooner than he realizes, and in the decades ahead, he’ll be remembered as a trivia question: Who was that guy they called the Dark Knight?

cooby May 07 2017 11:22 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

I hope he's an ex Met. I prefer to like my team

metirish May 07 2017 11:37 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

What a shit show , I am for moving him too, and yes Wide Bee Gee never did care for Harvey. Olney makes some interesting observations, I think we may indeed have seen the best of Harvey ( who is Olney writing for now?)

Benjamin Grimm May 07 2017 11:55 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Olney is apparently one of the ESPN survivors.

Nymr83 May 08 2017 12:31 AM Re: Harvey Suspended!

I'm all for moving Harvey, but for a team that claims to be contending how do you tell the fans "we're going to take a loss today and send Adam Wilk out there"? i would have suspended him the 4 games between starts - the team loses nothing and he loses salary and the embarrassment, if any, of getting suspended.

Batty31 May 08 2017 12:50 AM Re: Harvey Suspended!

I never cared from Harvey from day one. Oozes with arrogance. He's all about himself and not the team and more concerned with his um extracurricular activities. I tend to skip watching games he's pitching and tune in when the bullpen takes over. I really hope he gets and hope it gets done quickly.

Edgy MD May 08 2017 01:38 AM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Nymr83 wrote: I'm all for moving Harvey, but for a team that claims to be contending how do you tell the fans "we're going to take a loss today and send Adam Wilk out there"? i would have suspended him the 4 games between starts - the team loses nothing and he loses salary and the embarrassment, if any, of getting suspended. Because suspending him between starts is as weak and self-serving as his decision not to show up between starts. And 100% of everybody would see that. "We're pissed at you. Now go out there and pitch to win, and clean out your locker afterwards." That's not going to fly. Team sport, man.

seawolf17 May 08 2017 01:54 AM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Fuckin' hell, all this. If Collins ignores us chanting and pulls Harvey for the ninth inning of Game 5 two years ago, NONE OF THIS HAPPENS.

Edgy MD May 08 2017 02:07 AM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Joe McDonald is claiming scoop in reporting that Harvey was suspended for "chronic lateness issues."

d'Kong76 May 08 2017 02:14 AM Re: Harvey Suspended!

seawolf17 wrote: Fuckin' hell, all this. If Collins ignores us chanting and pulls Harvey for the ninth inning of Game 5 two years ago, NONE OF THIS HAPPENS. Whatever he did or didn't do this week has nothing to do with two years ago. C'mon.

seawolf17 May 08 2017 11:00 AM Re: Harvey Suspended!

d'Kong76 wrote: seawolf17 wrote: Fuckin' hell, all this. If Collins ignores us chanting and pulls Harvey for the ninth inning of Game 5 two years ago, NONE OF THIS HAPPENS. Whatever he did or didn't do this week has nothing to do with two years ago. C'mon. LOL! I know. Just being flippant.

Lefty Specialist May 08 2017 11:59 AM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Really getting to the end of my string with Harvey. I think he'll be gone this offseason and I won't miss him. Did we ever identify who the sex toy product placement person was?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 08 2017 01:06 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

"Oh, yeah? Well, now you're SUSPENDED from that game you blew off, Batman." Trade him now, and it's pennies on the dollar. You'd like at LEAST nickels-and-dimes for the guy.

41Forever May 08 2017 01:12 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Maybe this is the wake-up call that Harvey, and maybe the team, needs. I'd put this in the same category of Gil Hodges slowly walking out to left field and walking back with Cleon Jones. Message delivered.

Edgy MD May 08 2017 01:15 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Maybe, if Gil J.C. Martin had a great big dildo next to him. And Cleon was wearing a Rangers jersey and hangover sunglasses. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: "Oh, yeah? Well, now you're SUSPENDED from that game you blew off, Batman." Trade him now, and it's pennies on the dollar. You'd like at LEAST nickels-and-dimes for the guy. Well, the suspension comes in with a concomitant pay cut. That hurts even if the three day vacation doesn't, and thus, the grievance. Trying to guess how much of yesterday's fiasco was demoralization. It would have been nice for a few of the batsmen to turn to each other and say, "This Wilk guy has been thrown in the deep end. Let's get together and bail him out."

d'Kong76 May 08 2017 01:26 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Paul LoDuca says it's not what people think, the world can now start spinning again... Paul has tweeted. That is all. Thank you.

Frayed Knot May 08 2017 01:31 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Yeah THAT was the weird part of this whole story to me: when exactly did Paul Freakin' LoDuca get to pose as the consummate insider? I mean, aside for when the topic involves horses or teenage girls.

Edgy MD May 08 2017 01:36 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

I'm curious what "rumors" Pony Paulie is talking about? Any and all speculation I've seen is what we have here—either that he was the clubhouse prankster or (apparently correct) that his party boy lifestyle was interfering with his obligations to the team. Has Paulie been reading some real dirt? Because in my mind, his tweet opened more doors than it shut.

Farmer Ted May 08 2017 01:40 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Give him the Yasiel Puig treatment and send him down for a dose of humility. Not Vegas mind you, Bingy.

Benjamin Grimm May 08 2017 01:41 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Kingsport!

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 08 2017 01:50 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Not that they have to but I'd trade his fat white ass tomorrow if it brought me a decent starting pitching prospect and some help at third base. What the Mets get is the benefit of not losing him eventually, and for already having gotten his best at a good price. It's true his stock is way down but you have to wonder at this point, how much more is to be achieved as a Met? 2013 is not coming back. I also root that he's traded someplace like San Diego or Minnesota. Or maybe to the Rockies LOLOLOLLL

cooby May 08 2017 01:52 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Lol I was thinking Detroit last night.

Edgy MD May 08 2017 01:55 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Kingsport! Welcome to Kingsport, Matt. I'm your manager Luis Rivera. It's great to have you here. All the other players are working out in St. Lucie. Well, half of them. The other half haven't been drafted yet and are in junior college or some godawful place. They pretty much don't exist yet. But I fully expect you to show up on time for workouts. The elevator down doesn't stop here. Gulf Coast League ... Dominican Summer League ... Venezuelan Summer League ... . Let's have some fun. John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Not that they have to but I'd trade his fat white ass tomorrow if it brought me a decent starting pitching prospect and some help at third base. What the Mets get is the benefit of not losing him eventually, and for already having gotten his best at a good price. It's true his stock is way down but you have to wonder at this point, how much more is to be achieved as a Met? 2013 is not coming back. I also root that he's traded someplace like San Diego or Minnesota. Or maybe to the Rockies LOLOLOLLL I get that his stock is down, but it's down for the Mets as they hold the stocks too, not just for the marketplace. That's lost futures for the Wilpons, who know something about that sort of thing. If trading is what you want to do, trade him for somebody else whose stock is down, and just try real hard to be smarter than the other team. Don't fear the market because the stock is down. Be the smart ones. Some days you pick somebody else's pocket and some days you're on a one-way bus to Turnerville or McHughston. There are 29 teams that want him at some level.

metirish May 08 2017 01:56 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Not that they have to but I'd trade his fat white ass tomorrow if it brought me a decent starting pitching prospect and some help at third base. What the Mets get is the benefit of not losing him eventually, and for already having gotten his best at a good price. It's true his stock is way down but you have to wonder at this point, how much more is to be achieved as a Met? 2013 is not coming back. I also root that he's traded someplace like San Diego or Minnesota. Or maybe to the Rockies LOLOLOLLL This , fuck him, I was thinking last night he's the kind of player that ends up in Oakland

Centerfield May 08 2017 02:00 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

This is all so fucking annoying. First off, I think JCL was right and Harvey is a fucking douchebag. I've given this guy every benefit of the doubt, but you don't just not show up. Fucking stupid. Everyone knows you don't call in sick. You come in, throw up all over the floor/sneeze everywhere/pass out suddenly, then get sent home by your boss while you insist the whole time that you are ok. Anyone who's ever had a job knows this. I have a hard time believing he had a real migraine, and wasn't just fucking hung over from drinking in the golf cart all day. Wake up early, drink all through the round, come home dehydrated and hung over, get a 4 p.m. "migraine" then pass the fuck out. I'm guessing the Mets were as understanding about this as most wives when you tell them that you can't take the kids and do all the shit you promised after golf because of your "migraine". As for the Mets, did they tell Harvey that he would risk suspension? Did they sit him down and say, this shit has to stop. Next one, we are suspending you, and doing it publicly. It just seems like a bullshit move that Harvey showed up ready to start, and then was sent home. And why the secrecy? It's not like it wasn't going to come out anyway. Seems all so stupid to me. I hate everyone.

MFS62 May 08 2017 02:03 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

metirish wrote: This , fuck him, I was thinking last night he's the kind of player that ends up in Oakland With the Raiders. But by the time he gets there, the Raiders will be in Las Vegas. How appropriate. Later

Benjamin Grimm May 08 2017 02:07 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

I was trying to think of the major league city with the least exciting nightlife. I don't know: Milwaukee? Phoenix? I'm not really up on such things.

Edgy MD May 08 2017 02:13 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Part of me thinks that David Wright, hanging around the clubhouse with nothing to do but captaining, would have made it his business to get any of the other 24 players to the ballpark and out of the shit, but in Harvey's case, he just said, "Fuck him, let him dangle." Reminds me of my Dad, getting a passed out Jim Beauchamp to the ballpark as an irate Yogi Berra fumed.

batmagadanleadoff May 08 2017 02:25 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I was trying to think of the major league city with the least exciting nightlife. I don't know: Milwaukee? Phoenix? I'm not really up on such things. I recall reading several quotes over the years that it's Cincinnati. Even Led Zeppelin noted that you're lucky to get a decent meal there after 10PM.

metirish May 08 2017 02:41 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Edgy MD wrote: Reminds me of my Dad, getting a passed out Jim Beauchamp to the ballpark as an irate Yogi Berra fumed. Well, don't just let that dangle , do tell.

SteveJRogers May 08 2017 02:44 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

batmagadanleadoff wrote: I was trying to think of the major league city with the least exciting nightlife. I don't know: Milwaukee? Phoenix? I'm not really up on such things. I recall reading several quotes over the years that it's Cincinnati. Even Led Zeppelin noted that you're lucky to get a decent meal there after 10PM. Are you sure its not Cleveland?

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 08 2017 02:52 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

batmagadanleadoff wrote: I was trying to think of the major league city with the least exciting nightlife. I don't know: Milwaukee? Phoenix? I'm not really up on such things. I recall reading several quotes over the years that it's Cincinnati. Even Led Zeppelin noted that you're lucky to get a decent meal there after 10PM. Harvey and Doodoo for Votto and Brandon Finnegan. DO IT SANDY!!!!!

Edgy MD May 08 2017 02:53 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

I'd go with Arlington, Texas. But Harvey might think it's Heaven. DooDoo isn't going to move while he's hurt, but Smitty might.

seawolf17 May 08 2017 03:58 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

[If trading is what you want to do, trade him for somebody else whose stock is down, and just try real hard to be smarter than the other team. Don't fear the market because the stock is down. Be the smart ones. Some days you pick somebody else's pocket and some days you're on a one-way bus to Turnerville or McHughston. There are 29 teams that want him at some level. The old "change of scenery" trade. I wouldn't be averse to that. I even have a suggestion. http://www.baseball-reference.com/playe ... ke01.shtml

Chad Ochoseis May 08 2017 04:14 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

SteveJRogers wrote: Are you sure its not Cleveland? WELL, EFF YOU, TOO. I didn't see the point of suspending him. If he's done something severe enough to warrant public humiliation and depriving the team of his pitching skills (no, he doesn't have many, but on his worst day he's better than Adam Wilk), then just send him to Vegas for 10 days and open up a roster spot. He might enjoy Vegas too much, but it's a great city for deflating pitchers' egos when they need deflating. Edgy MD wrote: Trying to guess how much of yesterday's fiasco was demoralization. It would have been nice for a few of the batsmen to turn to each other and say, "This Wilk guy has been thrown in the deep end. Let's get together and bail him out." They've been busy bailing out Gsellman, Montero, Wheeler, Harvey, and even DeGrom lately. I'll give them a pass.

Edgy MD May 08 2017 04:31 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

I'm not trying to indict them. I'm just curious how deflating this episode was for them. It was a terrible showing against a fill-in starter.

SteveJRogers May 08 2017 04:34 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Chad Ochoseis wrote: SteveJRogers wrote: Are you sure its not Cleveland? WELL, EFF YOU, TOO LOL! Hey, there was a former Knick who relished a trade to the Cavs due to the lack of a Cleveland nightlife full of temptations...that and the Cavs being championship contenders and the Knicks...well, not so much!

batmagadanleadoff May 08 2017 04:47 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

SteveJRogers wrote: I was trying to think of the major league city with the least exciting nightlife. I don't know: Milwaukee? Phoenix? I'm not really up on such things. I recall reading several quotes over the years that it's Cincinnati. Even Led Zeppelin noted that you're lucky to get a decent meal there after 10PM. Are you sure its not Cleveland? Now I remember the context of the Zeppelin quote. They were justifying wrecking their hotel rooms in Cincy. They recalled that by the time their Cincy concerts had ended, there wasn't a thing open in that city and so how else were young men on top of the world supposed to release all that energy?

d'Kong76 May 08 2017 04:48 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Is the suspension Sat-Sun-Mon or Sun-Mon-Tue? It would be hilarious if Harvey gets to go the Rangers game tomorrow night! No? Yes it would.

metirish May 08 2017 04:53 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

d'Kong76 wrote: Is the suspension Sat-Sun-Mon or Sun-Mon-Tue? It would be hilarious if Harvey gets to go the Rangers game tomorrow night! No? Yes it would. SSM , due at CF Tues, yes, it would be hilarious if there was another miscommunication and Harvey was shown in the big board at MSG

batmagadanleadoff May 08 2017 04:56 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Just to really confuse things, Harvey'll probably pitch a gem worthy of a Cy Young candidate in his next start.

themetfairy May 08 2017 04:59 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Centerfield wrote: Everyone knows you don't call in sick. You come in, throw up all over the floor/sneeze everywhere/pass out suddenly, then get sent home by your boss while you insist the whole time that you are ok. Anyone who's ever had a job knows this. Off topic - whatever happened to your friend Eugene? How long did it take his employer to fire him again after he had stopped coming into work?

Vic Sage May 08 2017 06:56 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

first of all, If Harvey were pitching well, i doubt very much he'd have gotten suspended, nor would fans be calling for his immediate tar and feathering. Is he an asshole? Yes, he's an asshole. And, as JCL has repeatedly noted, he's been one from the outset. But i don't recall the outcry for his excommunication when he was dominating the league (well, maybe JCL, but nobody else around here). I, too, don't want a guy who is too hung over to show up for work, but he's an asset. So the conversation that needs to happen now is Sandy sitting Matt down and saying, "we've had it with you. But if you pitch well from now on, you'll prove to other teams that your healthy and maybe worth taking a chance on. so we'll give you the opportunity to pitch well enough here to go win a contract for next year somewhere else." And then, if the Mets still suck by the end of July, and if he's pitched adequately until then, you get a decent prospect in a rental deal with a contender looking to beef up down the stretch.

Benjamin Grimm May 08 2017 07:03 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

I agree. There's no good argument for trading him immediately. His value right now is low, and it's more likely to go up than down, only because it's already so low. Wait a month, or two, or more, and see where Harvey is at, and where the team is at.

d'Kong76 May 08 2017 07:16 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Vic Sage wrote: Sandy sitting Matt down and saying, "we've had it with you. But if you pitch well from now on, you'll prove to other teams that your healthy and maybe worth taking a chance on. so we'll give you the opportunity to pitch well enough here to go win a contract for next year somewhere else." Harv: "Ok, you're right Mr. Alderson. You got 100%, 24/7 from here on in! Skip, can I go the Ranger game tomorrow night? They're down 3-2 and it might be the last home game!!!" TC: "Sure Matt, see you on Kiss Cam or whatever but be here white-eyed and all the earlier Wednesday! Got it?"

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 08 2017 07:22 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

I don't have to trade him today, but a good argument exists if we could get the right return. You never know. Maybe the Rockies or DBaggs think they're good enough to steal the West if they move now.

Edgy MD May 08 2017 07:24 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Yeah, sure there's an argument—the same argument that justifies any trade: If the deal they want is available.

Frayed Knot May 08 2017 08:29 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

If the team is bottoming out in July you may see a deal, although this coming off-season is much more likely. But the details of whatever he pulled on Saturday (and we still don't know MOST of them) would have to be really hairy for this to approach a 'Must deal NOW!!!!' type of situation.

Benjamin Grimm May 08 2017 08:38 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Edgy MD wrote: Yeah, sure there's an argument—the same argument that justifies any trade: If the deal they want is available. True. But I doubt they get that good deal this week. Anyone approaching the Mets for a Harvey deal at this point is probably bargain hunting. But you never know.

G-Fafif May 08 2017 09:17 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

New intrigue, featuring pajamas, from Jon Heyman. I don't think I've ever read a story with so much parenthetical caution sprinkled throughout. Even those close to Harvey understand his text (or text back) didn’t come until after the 3 p.m. cutoff for notice (the players are due on the field at 4), and that the Mets would have been within their rights to fine him. The issue is whether a suspension was warranted. Harvey apparently does not believe a suspension was called for, but that a fine would have been OK. People who have been in contact with the Mets suggest he’s been fined before (though it isn’t known for what and how many times), and that this was the time to draw the line. The position of Mets people, according to those who have spoken to them, is that he’s been late before (a few times, they say, including one time when he missed an off-day practice in the 2015 postseason when he also racked up innings and helped pitch the team into the World Series the year after his Tommy John surgery). And they say that it’s clear the policy is clear to report to trainer Ray Ramirez if you’re ill or injured and are going to be late, and not to a coach. Those people who’ve spoken to the club says Mets people cite an “accumulation” of slip-ups, and furthermore seem to believe other Mets players would have been upset by special treatment if they didn’t take a stand on a perceived punctuality issue (though that couldn’t immediately be corroborated).

cooby May 08 2017 09:44 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

I think the three day suspension was fair (especially since one day was already over with by the time they told him) and really, I'm willing to let bygones be bygones, but for corn's sake Matt, grow up! Or get an alarm clock (remember when we all said that about Doc? :D )

Ashie62 May 08 2017 10:05 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

I want to see Harvey on the MSG Jumbotron.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 08 2017 10:06 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

G-Fafif wrote: New intrigue, featuring pajamas, from Jon Heyman. I don't think I've ever read a story with so much parenthetical caution sprinkled throughout. Even those close to Harvey understand his text (or text back) didn’t come until after the 3 p.m. cutoff for notice (the players are due on the field at 4), and that the Mets would have been within their rights to fine him. The issue is whether a suspension was warranted. Harvey apparently does not believe a suspension was called for, but that a fine would have been OK. People who have been in contact with the Mets suggest he’s been fined before (though it isn’t known for what and how many times), and that this was the time to draw the line. The position of Mets people, according to those who have spoken to them, is that he’s been late before (a few times, they say, including one time when he missed an off-day practice in the 2015 postseason when he also racked up innings and helped pitch the team into the World Series the year after his Tommy John surgery). And they say that it’s clear the policy is clear to report to trainer Ray Ramirez if you’re ill or injured and are going to be late, and not to a coach. Those people who’ve spoken to the club says Mets people cite an “accumulation” of slip-ups, and furthermore seem to believe other Mets players would have been upset by special treatment if they didn’t take a stand on a perceived punctuality issue (though that couldn’t immediately be corroborated). Great stuff. I wonder if he was wearing his white robe. Popcorn!

cooby May 08 2017 10:57 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

How about it!!! I didn't know guys still wore jammies

Edgy MD May 08 2017 11:26 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Doesn't he have a buddy who will drive him to the park if he's sick (or if he's not) no questions asked, call the team if he's sick and sleeping, lie to his girlfriends, or bury a body for him?

themetfairy May 08 2017 11:54 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Edgy MD wrote: Doesn't he have a buddy who will drive him to the park if he's sick (or if he's not) no questions asked, call the team if he's sick and sleeping, lie to his girlfriends, or bury a body for him? Isn't Scott Boras paid to do that stuff for him?

Edgy MD May 09 2017 12:07 AM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Well, Scott Boras can't be everywhere, but yeah, I would've guessed the high-powered agents assign a personal toady to each of their clients.

Nymr83 May 09 2017 05:56 AM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Ashie62 wrote: I want to see Harvey on the MSG Jumbotron. I want to see him on the jumbotron at a regular season game in November with a ring on his finger. Otherwise, I don't care to see him at all outside the context of a Mets game.

G-Fafif May 09 2017 07:56 AM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Page Six reports Harvey appreciates Mexican culture enough to have been out celebrating Cinco de Mayo until the wee hours of Seis de Mayo...and presumably the Mets' comeback victory over the Marlins. Matt Harvey's "migraine" cover story may have just been blown. Page Six is reporting that the suspended Mets' right-hander was out partying at New York City club 1OAK until 4 a.m., Friday night, the night before he was suspended for skipping a game against the Miami Marlins. Harvey and some friends reportedly came to the club about 1 a.m., and sat at a private table drinking champagne, tequila and vodka with friends for about three hours. Harvey also apparently played golf Saturday morning, the day before he was scheduled to pitch, and then returned home with a migraine. From there, the "miscommunication" with the Mets began. He never made it to the ballpark and didn't follow protocol by alerting trainer Ray Ramirez that he was sick. Instead, he waited until pitching coach Dan Warthen reached out to him.

cooby May 09 2017 10:06 AM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Yowzers. No wonder he had a migraine

MFS62 May 09 2017 12:22 PM Re: Harvey Suspended! Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 09 2017 12:30 PM

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Great stuff. I wonder if he was wearing his white robe. Popcorn! Popcorn in a story about a baseball-playing schmuck? That reminds me of the Joe Pepitone/ popcorn story so vividly described by Jim Bouton in Ball Four. But this also reminds me of another passage in that book. (I paraphrase, but its pretty close) Mickey Mantle showed up at a game totally hung over, then went out and hit a game winning home run. When he came back to the dugout the fans were cheering, and he said "I wonder of they know how really hard that was". Harvey should have shown up, especially since he wasn't scheduled to pitch. Later

metirish May 09 2017 12:25 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Will he make himself available to the media later today?, does he have to?, should he ?, intrigue to say the least. I would imagine he is feeling rather sheepish right about now , likely working on a plan with Boras and family....or me might not give a fiddlers fuck

Fman99 May 09 2017 12:28 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Edgy MD wrote: Well, Scott Boras can't be everywhere, but yeah, I would've guessed the high-powered agents assign a personal toady to each of their clients. I got this one, Matt, you go sleep it off, I'll email the coaches for you. Smashed that puss last night? Way to be.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 09 2017 12:30 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

So he is okay with playing on short rest. I don't play regularly, but I kindasorta get golf-appeal. Play with a severe, burgeoning hangover, though? Good God, why? It's recreation. There WILL be other tee times. Also, like Metsdradamus pointed out, being an asshole is forgivable. Being a shit teammate-- the piker who begs out of workouts and team meetings-- isn't. Also also... he's 28. He hasn't figured out how to hangover-proof his late-nights yet? Maybe, like the small-time who keeps getting collared he should rethink his habit... because he's no good at it.

Frayed Knot May 09 2017 12:42 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

metirish wrote: Will he make himself available to the media later today?, does he have to?, should he ?, intrigue to say the least. I would imagine he is feeling rather sheepish right about now , likely working on a plan with Boras and family....or me might not give a fiddlers fuck Oh he'll have to talk at some point. It could be formal or not, to individual writers or en masse, but he's not going to be able to hide behind his pending grievance while acting like the victim here and clam up in order to send a message of 'Fuck Terry' and 'Fuck Sandy'*, and the reason he can't do that is because if he doesn't talk then the press goes after his teammates for their thoughts on all things Harvey and they're not going to put up with that. * it just occurred to me that 'Fuck Terry' and 'Fuck Sandy' were what Springsteen was trying to do in 'BACKSTREETS' and in '4th of JULY, ASBURY PARK'

41Forever May 09 2017 01:13 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Frayed Knot wrote: metirish wrote: Will he make himself available to the media later today?, does he have to?, should he ?, intrigue to say the least. I would imagine he is feeling rather sheepish right about now , likely working on a plan with Boras and family....or me might not give a fiddlers fuck Oh he'll have to talk at some point. It could be formal or not, to individual writers or en masse, but he's not going to be able to hide behind his pending grievance while acting like the victim here and clam up in order to send a message of 'Fuck Terry' and 'Fuck Sandy'*, and the reason he can't do that is because if he doesn't talk then the press goes after his teammates for their thoughts on all things Harvey and they're not going to put up with that. He needs to do two things from a PR standpoint, and I'd bet Boras' team is working on this. 1) Apologize to his teammates. 2) Hold a press conference to a humbly apologize to the team and the fans, saying how he let them down and that this will never happen again. And then never let it happen again. Answer every reasonable question. Acknowledge that he has a problem -- even if that problem is being a douche -- and say he's working hard to address it. Fans are forgiving when people ask for it. It's defiant, defensive jerks who incur the wrath.

Edgy MD May 09 2017 01:25 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Also, like Metsdradamus pointed out, being an asshole is forgivable. Being a shit teammate-- the piker who begs out of workouts and team meetings-- isn't. I enjoyed the Metstradamus post, but I tend to think that is what being an asshole is. It's what folks tell their daughters, right? If he's nice to you but mean to the waiter?

Centerfield May 09 2017 02:30 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

This shit is crazy. So basically Harvey goes out drinking all night. Then goes golfing first thing in the morning, then drives home. Then he gets a headache. Big fucking surprise. Going out drinking all night then head straight to golf. Gets home, falls asleep, doesn't call in sick. Responds only to Warthen's text message, then passes out and doesn't respond again. The Mets send a crew to check on him, partly out of concern, mostly out of suspicion. What a fucking mess.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 09 2017 02:38 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Also, like Metsdradamus pointed out, being an asshole is forgivable. Being a shit teammate-- the piker who begs out of workouts and team meetings-- isn't. I enjoyed the Metstradamus post, but I tend to think that is what being an asshole is. It's what folks tell their daughters, right? If he's nice to you but mean to the waiter? Well, yeah, but he worked HARD to afford this restaurant and his Lotus, so eat up, honey. Did he mention he drove a Lotus? It had to be special ordered, and he had to spend some time on the wait list, but you do that for something this cherry. F'real, though? You can be a dick to your teammates. You can drive them to distraction, to drink, to borderline suicide (see: some of the worst Michael Jordan anecdotes). But not actually putting in the work means you don't have their respect. Their stupid, boys-club, dickswinging respect... which, frankly, is what counts in terms of running the team, isn't it?

TransMonk May 09 2017 02:42 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Looks like he might make his next start on Friday in Milwaukee. I'll be there...within shouting distance of the dugout. I don't think I've ever yelled at a player to pull his head out of his ass in person, but this may need to be the first time. I've always wanted to give Matt the benefit of the doubt. Still, at this point in his career he should have more respect for his craft, for his teammates and for the fans.

cooby May 09 2017 02:44 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Go TransMonk!

seawolf17 May 09 2017 03:26 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

41Forever wrote: Fans are forgiving when people ask for it. It's defiant, defensive jerks who incur the wrath. Definitely, this. Look at the difference between Andy Pettitte and Roger Clemens.

cooby May 09 2017 04:30 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Although....maybe finding him in his jammies ready for bed at 10:30 the night before a start is not a bad thing...

Farmer Ted May 09 2017 04:38 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Lo Duca (credible source!) on Meenan's podcast this morning... [paraphrasing] Harvey wasn't drinking until 4 am. The Post story is trash. Harvey's been coddled since he got here. Not by Terry, not by Sandy, but by the not-named upstairs people. Kevin Brown's contract in LA had him taking private jets and doing his own thing during the season. Lo Duca had not problem with that because Brown was winning 20 games, in the dugout every night cheering his team on, and working his ass off in-between starts. He sees none of that from Harvey.

d'Kong76 May 09 2017 05:22 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Situation upgraded to a kerfuffle according to multiple sources.

Ashie62 May 09 2017 05:23 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

I'd like to be coddled.

d'Kong76 May 09 2017 05:25 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

I'd like a few bottles of Armand de Brignac.

HahnSolo May 09 2017 05:28 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Gut feeling / Hawt Take: Harvey does not pitch another game for the Mets. Sometime between now and Friday either a mystery injury or an extension of the suspension will happen, leading to his eventual departure from the team.

Frayed Knot May 09 2017 05:37 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

I don't know, a mystery injury doesn't help anyone -- and if Harvey's going to challenge this mini-suspension he's shirley going to fight a non-injury hoax. An additional suspension would have to be the result of a whopper between now and Friday that I can't even imagine. Which leaves the only scenario left as a trade although, as stated before, if that's going to happen it seems much more likely to be in late July or in November than now. The real drama is going to be in his next home start (that they're delaying his start for the first game of the next road trip is the least surprising thing on the planet other than a stupid late night Donald tweet) but that'll be nearly two weeks from now and only after, as Sam once said to Ilsa, "a lotta water under da bridge".

Edgy MD May 09 2017 06:00 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

There's national media covering this suggesting that Mets fans should be embarrassed. But hey, the team has won seven of 10 (even if two of the losses were awful), we get some comedy and some gossip thrown in with the drama, the organization is attempting to take the high ground, and I never liked Harvey anyhow. It was always going to be a year of transition, and with good planning and a lot of luck, the transition can take place during the season while the team fights enough to remain in contention, and by August we have a super-team—where players returning from injury, their young and handsome in-season replacements, and bitter vets that have been shuffled to the bench are all well rested and fighting for playing time. And April's sordid tales of a starting pitcher's lost weekend and a backup catcher's sexual deviancy will all be dimly remembered goofy footnotes.

Benjamin Grimm May 09 2017 06:31 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

It is strange how the team has a "falling apart" vibe despite the fact that they've been winning. They're 5.5 games out of first place. Two games out of the wild card. And a lot of baseball left to play. And why exactly should Mets fans be embarrassed? I wasn't the one playing naked golf with Matt Harvey at 4 a.m., or whatever he was doing.

d'Kong76 May 09 2017 06:34 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I wasn't the one playing naked golf with Matt Harvey at 4 a.m. I've read tweets to the contrary, but I'm not here to pick nits.

G-Fafif May 09 2017 07:57 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Harvey held a sniffly apology press conference. He was literally sniffly. Draw your own lurid conclusions. Confirmed he was out late, said he was sorry, took all the blame, wants to move forward, didn't explicitly rule out filing a grievance. So that probably wraps up the story and nobody will ever mention it again.

d'Kong76 May 09 2017 08:01 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Pollen count is high in NYC this week.

G-Fafif May 09 2017 08:03 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

d'Kong76 wrote: Pollen count is high in NYC this week. "Hi, I'm Matt Harvey for Claritin..."

Benjamin Grimm May 09 2017 08:04 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

That reminds me of "I only want to talk about Qualcomm." Boy, it's been one thing after another with this guy.

G-Fafif May 09 2017 08:15 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Rubin slipped into his sny.tv analysis of this particular brouhaharv that team sources "privately" confirmed that the playoff workout alibi about being stuck in traffic was something Collins made up on the fly to cover Matt's considerable rear.

G-Fafif May 09 2017 08:21 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Terry followed up by talking about the great support system that's in place for Matt, how he doesn't have to go it alone, how Bartolo sent Matt a text. Not that there's anything more to this than a guy had a headache and called in a little late.

G-Fafif May 09 2017 08:31 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Carig reports Harvey addressed the team "for a good 10-15 minutes, most of them on the verge of tears." Pollen. It's everywhere.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 09 2017 08:32 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Anyone follow up with a question about when he's going to check into Smithers?

Ashie62 May 09 2017 08:37 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Read my mind

Benjamin Grimm May 09 2017 08:38 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

G-Fafif wrote: Carig reports Harvey addressed the team "for a good 10-15 minutes, most of them on the verge of tears." Pollen. It's everywhere. Were the minutes full of tears, or the players? I find it hard to picture that 25 grown men were sobbing for 15 minutes because Matt Harvey had a headache.

Edgy MD May 09 2017 08:41 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Did Wilmer Flores get traded again?

G-Fafif May 09 2017 08:42 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

I take it Harvey had the tears and the teammates were looking at their phones.

Frayed Knot May 09 2017 08:46 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Or maybe the minutes of the meeting had tears in them and now Jay Horowitz is going to need to re-type them out all over again on un-torn sheets of paper.

Centerfield May 09 2017 08:52 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

I don't know how any of you guys are holding it together. I'm outright sobbing just reading this thread.

themetfairy May 09 2017 08:57 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

But has anyone fessed up to putting the dildo in Plawecki's locker? Or will that forever haunt us as an unexplained mystery?

Centerfield May 09 2017 09:36 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

themetfairy wrote: But has anyone fessed up to putting the dildo in Plawecki's locker? Or will that forever haunt us as an unexplained mystery? Has anyone ever considered that it might just have been Plawecki's dildo?

themetfairy May 09 2017 09:41 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Centerfield wrote: themetfairy wrote: But has anyone fessed up to putting the dildo in Plawecki's locker? Or will that forever haunt us as an unexplained mystery? Has anyone ever considered that it might just have been Plawecki's dildo? NTTAWWT

Edgy MD May 09 2017 09:48 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

What? A guy with a .219 batting average over 127 career games is packing his own dildo? What's this world coming to? Your locker has a big black dildo in it. You'll never make it to the bigs with a big black dildo in your locker. Think classy, you'll be classy. If you hit .300 in the show, you can fill your locker with a collection of dildos of the world and the press'll think you're colorful. Until you hit .300 in the show, however, it means you are a freaky little perv.

SteveJRogers May 09 2017 11:23 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Centerfield wrote: themetfairy wrote: But has anyone fessed up to putting the dildo in Plawecki's locker? Or will that forever haunt us as an unexplained mystery? Has anyone ever considered that it might just have been Plawecki's dildo? I forget where it was, but Plawecki confirmed that it was left there as a prank.

Frayed Knot May 09 2017 11:52 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

SteveJRogers wrote: Centerfield wrote: themetfairy wrote: But has anyone fessed up to putting the dildo in Plawecki's locker? Or will that forever haunt us as an unexplained mystery? Has anyone ever considered that it might just have been Plawecki's dildo? I forget where it was, but Plawecki confirmed that it was left there as a prank. Sure, that's what he wants you to believe!

SteveJRogers May 10 2017 12:03 AM Re: Harvey Suspended!

To be honest, I want to know how the rumor that Harvey being the placer of the dildo being the reason for the suspension got started. That seemed to have short, fat and hairy legs for an absolutely false (being the reason for suspension, not Harvey putting it in the locker) rumor.

G-Fafif May 10 2017 12:15 AM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Mike Puma actually reports a reliever is suspected.

41Forever May 10 2017 12:16 AM Re: Harvey Suspended!

41Forever wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: metirish wrote: Will he make himself available to the media later today?, does he have to?, should he ?, intrigue to say the least. I would imagine he is feeling rather sheepish right about now , likely working on a plan with Boras and family....or me might not give a fiddlers fuck Oh he'll have to talk at some point. It could be formal or not, to individual writers or en masse, but he's not going to be able to hide behind his pending grievance while acting like the victim here and clam up in order to send a message of 'Fuck Terry' and 'Fuck Sandy'*, and the reason he can't do that is because if he doesn't talk then the press goes after his teammates for their thoughts on all things Harvey and they're not going to put up with that. He needs to do two things from a PR standpoint, and I'd bet Boras' team is working on this. 1) Apologize to his teammates. 2) Hold a press conference to a humbly apologize to the team and the fans, saying how he let them down and that this will never happen again. And then never let it happen again. Answer every reasonable question. Acknowledge that he has a problem -- even if that problem is being a douche -- and say he's working hard to address it. Fans are forgiving when people ask for it. It's defiant, defensive jerks who incur the wrath. Yea! Matt reads the Pool! Next time we charge for valuable PR advice.

Edgy MD May 10 2017 12:43 AM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Frayed Knot wrote: SteveJRogers wrote: To be honest, I want to know how the rumor that Harvey being the placer of the dildo being the reason for the suspension got started. That seemed to have short, fat and hairy legs for an absolutely false (being the reason for suspension, not Harvey putting it in the locker) rumor. I think it started in the minds of a million different people at once.

Frayed Knot May 10 2017 12:55 AM Re: Harvey Suspended!

SteveJRogers wrote: To be honest, I want to know how the rumor that Harvey being the placer of the dildo being the reason for the suspension got started. That seemed to have short, fat and hairy legs for an absolutely false (being the reason for suspension, not Harvey putting it in the locker) rumor. Because when B follows A people tend to assume that A caused B And since no one knew the cause of the suspension when it was first announced, fans went back to the last thing they could remember and came up with the naughty object in the newly-circulated photo.

Fman99 May 10 2017 01:59 AM Re: Harvey Suspended!

All I know is that it's hard for me to find topics that intersect more delightfully than a CPF thread, a winning streak, Mets chatter, and big black rubber dongs. It's like everything I enjoy the most is all coming to a head (ahem).

cooby May 10 2017 02:06 AM Re: Harvey Suspended!

You know, I prolly wouldn't know a sex toy if it showed up in my bed. And I'm thinking that's a good thing.

cooby May 10 2017 02:36 AM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Nobody should ever have to apologize for being themselves

batmagadanleadoff May 10 2017 03:17 AM Re: Harvey Suspended!

The plot thickens. Or wrinkles. Matt Harvey sent over the edge by gal pal’s reunion with ex By Emily Smith and Ruth Brown May 9, 2017 | 8:01pm Mets pitcher Matt Harvey skipped Saturday’s game and got himself suspended after seeing pictures of his supermodel gal pal out partying with another man, sources told The Post. The “Dark Knight” became an emotional wreck on May 2, after paparazzi photos came out showing Adriana Lima stepping from a limo and heading into Rihanna’s Met Gala after-party with her former boyfriend, NFL star Julian Edelman. Both the Victoria’s Secret stunner and the Patriots wide receiver — with whom she had broken up several months earlier — wore grins on their faces like they were having the time of their lives. Inside the party, Lima and Edelman were “flirty,” Post sources said. And, to add insult to injury, Lima unfollowed Harvey on Instagram after the event. Apparently, Harvey was unaware that Lima was just not as into their relationship as he was. “Adriana’s relationship with Matt was never serious,” a source said. “They are no longer seeing each other.” A depressed Harvey, who was in Atlanta on the night of the Met Gala, had to take his turn pitching in the Mets rotation a few hours after seeing his gal pal out on the town without him. He wound up getting hammered by the Braves, giving up 6 runs in 5 innings. Modal Trigger Julian Edelman and Adriana Lima are seen arriving at Rihanna’s Met Gala party.Splash News Lima “really messed with Matt Harvey’s head,” baseball sources said. Harvey got hammered again early Saturday morning, when he went to the Meatpacking District hot spot 1 Oak — the same club where Lima and Edelman were photographed — and partied until 4 a.m. The feeling among other players on the Mets was that Harvey was out Friday night blowing off steam and trying to get over Lima, baseball sources told The Post. If he managed to relax at all is unknown, because Lima called him while he was playing golf before the Mets game Saturday and had a conversation that made him even more upset, sources said. A few hours later, he would turn up AWOL for the Mets Game at Citi Filed against the Florida Marlins, telling the team he had a “migraine,” and leading Mets brass to suspend him. Sources said that Harvey had little chance with Lima — who was married to Serbian basketball player Marko Jaric for five years and who has been linked celebs such as rocker Lenny Kravitz and Yankees great Derek Jeter. The stunning Brazilian brunette isn’t looking to be tied down with any man right now, a source said. “She dates men like male sports stars go through women” the source said. “She’s beautiful, one of the most desired women in the world, she’s fun, has already been married and isn’t looking to settle down.” Harvey is also known for playing the field, and Lima was just the latest in a series of models seen on his arm. He has previously been linked to beauties Ania Cywinska, Ashley Haas, Anne Vyalitsyna, Shannon Rusbuldt, Asha Leo and Devon Windsor. The Amazins hurler reportedly blew off a mandatory team workout after calling it quits with Polish gal pal Cywinska in 2015 — although their eight-month relationship lasted longer than most of Harvey’s trysts. But the 28-year-old lothario recently claimed that he is planning on settling down sooner rather than later. “I don’t think I will [follow] the Derek Jeter model. I’m not afraid of [marriage],” he told The Post in March. http://pagesix.com/2017/05/09/matt-harv ... n-with-ex/

Frayed Knot May 10 2017 03:48 AM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Not to denigrate the fine reporting history and taut journalism that 'Page Six' has long represented, but forgive me if I question the validity of phrases like: Lima “really messed with Matt Harvey’s head,” [u:2da0ba3l]baseball sources[/u:2da0ba3l] said. Baseball sources ... Really?!?

batmagadanleadoff May 10 2017 03:54 AM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Frayed Knot wrote: Not to denigrate the fine reporting history and taut journalism that 'Page Six' has long represented, but forgive me if I question the validity of phrases like: Lima “really messed with Matt Harvey’s head,” baseball sources said. Baseball sources ... Really?!? The story makes sense to me, not that I would know one way or the other whether or not its true. But it certainly passes the plausible test. And "baseball sources" because the source or sources don't want it to be known that they're "ratting" on Harvey. If it's true, it means Harvey went out drinking on Friday night at the same exact club where earlier, Lima was photographed with Edelman. The old "What a coincidence, I just happened to be in your neighborhood" High School move Harvey played. Heartbroken Harvey. Did Ralph Kiner break down when Elizabeth Taylor dumped him?

Frayed Knot May 10 2017 03:59 AM Re: Harvey Suspended!

The story may very well be true but "baseball sources" could be anything from a teammate or front office guy, to someone in a different organization or just some fan who claims to know something. Hell, Paul LoDuca has been all over everywhere since this story broke, claiming to have the inside word on this and the facts on that, and I had no idea he was in any way actually still connected to a sport that didn't involve betting on horses and chasing underage girls, and yet he could be the "baseball source" on this one.

batmagadanleadoff May 10 2017 04:06 AM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Frayed Knot wrote: The story may very well be true but "baseball sources" could be anything from a teammate or front office guy, to someone in a different organization or just some fan who claims to know something. Hell, Paul LoDuca has been all over everywhere since this story broke, claiming to have the inside word on this and the facts on that, and I had no idea he was in any way actually still connected to a sport that didn't involve betting on horses and chasing underage girls, and yet he could be the "baseball source" on this one. But why would the phrase "baseball sources" hurt the credibility of the story (as opposed to some other wording for an anonymous source or sources)? I read it that the source or sources are connected to the baseball industry, as opposed to regular civilians who might be close to Harvey but not connected to baseball, hence "baseball sources". I mean, if Sandy Alderson, for example, was the leaker, the writers couldn't describe him as an anonymous GM in MLB, could they? I look at the big picture and see a new story that's plausible and consistent with everything else that was disclosed about this incident.

Frayed Knot May 10 2017 04:13 AM Re: Harvey Suspended!

batmagadanleadoff wrote: But why would the phrase "baseball sources" hurt the credibility of the story Because it's so vague that it could mean practically anything, and because the phrase alone offers nothing as far as being up on the inside dirt of Matt Harvey's personal life.

batmagadanleadoff May 10 2017 04:26 AM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Frayed Knot wrote: batmagadanleadoff wrote: But why would the phrase "baseball sources" hurt the credibility of the story Because it's so vague that it could mean practically anything, and because the phrase alone offers nothing as far as being up on the inside dirt of Matt Harvey's personal life. Maybe I'm not following. Is there another way to label the anonymous source(s) that would, in your view, enhance the credibility of the story? Or is your beef the fact that the sources are anonymous and no re-lableing would fix that beef?

Nymr83 May 10 2017 05:21 AM Re: Harvey Suspended!

I get why you need anonymous sources when you are reporting on a chemical spill - maybe we ought to re-evaluate their use in gossip pieces however.

41Forever May 10 2017 11:37 AM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Take anything from anonymous ounces with a grain of salt. Matt Harvey Is hung up on a Brazilian supermodel?

cooby May 10 2017 11:40 AM Re: Harvey Suspended!

It's kinda like "The Untold Story" on the front of the National Enquirer, etc. If it's untold, how do you know to write it? And speaking of Paul LoDuca, I didn't know he was still around either, let alone a baseball source. And he's the one that said the Post story about the Cinco de Mayo party was wrong, so I wouldn't put too much faith in him.

Edgy MD May 10 2017 12:33 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Lo Duca was seemingly denying stories that hadn't even broken yet. The funny thing is the idea that "baseball sources" would be who you'd go to in order to get the skinny on Harvey's broken heart. If she explicitly dumped him because he's 2013's news and it's 2017 and he's pitching like a cut-rate Wily Peralta, I can see why that would burn his butt.

Fman99 May 10 2017 12:35 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Harvey sounds like quite the stooge here. Put your shit together, man.

Frayed Knot May 10 2017 12:56 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Maybe I'm not following. Is there another way to label the anonymous source(s) that would, in your view, enhance the credibility of the story? Or is your beef the fact that the sources are anonymous and no re-lableing would fix that beef? I don't object to the concept of using anonymous sources but, between the vagueness of phrase "baseball sources" (players?, front office?, fans?, clubhouse boy?, Keith Law?, the ghost of Ty Cobb?) and the leap that just because whatever person they got this 'info' from is in some form connected to baseball that it gives him knowledge of Matt Harvey's personal life, this conveys the notion that this is Page Six getting out of a story what they set out to get in the first place which is of course that the big gossip story du jour has a connection to some hot babe. It reminds me a bit of a scene from BONFIRE OF THE VANITIES where the writer -- fictional, but not coincidentally from the NY Post -- sets out to pump up his story of a teenager getting hit by a high-end car by getting a teacher at the kid's school to first define 'Honor Student' as anyone who showed up regularly and didn't piss on him, and then to get a quote about how the kid never actually pissed on him, as enough license to trumpet 'HONOR STUDENT' in the paper's headline. As I said earlier, this story may well be true but it, like the BotV scene, has a ring to it about going as far as you need in order to find enough 'evidence' that will allow you to write what you set out to write before you started and, call me crazy, but I don't put that past the standards of journalism at the Post's Page Six crew. The Daily News, btw, runs a similar story today and they at least went as far to call it a "Mets source" which certainly narrows things down a bit.

seawolf17 May 10 2017 01:25 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Lima unfollowed Harvey on Instagram after the event HOW DARE SHE

metirish May 10 2017 01:30 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

seawolf17 wrote: Lima unfollowed Harvey on Instagram after the event HOW DARE SHE Harvey has 183K followers, Lima 10.7m , how do they figure this stuff?....who's job is it to scroll through Harvey's followers?.....

Edgy MD May 10 2017 01:31 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Baseball sources.

TransMonk May 10 2017 01:52 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Paul LoDuca.

cooby May 10 2017 01:52 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

metirish wrote: seawolf17 wrote: Lima unfollowed Harvey on Instagram after the event HOW DARE SHE Harvey has 183K followers, Lima 10.7m , how do they figure this stuff?....who's job is it to scroll through Harvey's followers?..... I never heard of her

Benjamin Grimm May 10 2017 02:54 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

I never heard of her This is Adriana Lima: That's what I think too but who knows what Harvey thinks My guess:

seawolf17 May 10 2017 03:31 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

TransMonk wrote: Paul LoDuca. BOC

SteveJRogers May 10 2017 03:54 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

metirish wrote: seawolf17 wrote: Lima unfollowed Harvey on Instagram after the event HOW DARE SHE Harvey has 183K followers, Lima 10.7m , how do they figure this stuff?....who's job is it to scroll through Harvey's followers?..... There is a search function on follower/following lists in Instagram.

Edgy MD May 10 2017 03:56 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

So it's Steve's job!

cooby May 10 2017 10:24 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

seawolf17 wrote: Lima unfollowed Harvey on Instagram after the event HOW DARE SHE He didn't seem to care when I unfriended him. Hmmph

A Boy Named Seo May 10 2017 10:33 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

cooby wrote: seawolf17 wrote: Lima unfollowed Harvey on Instagram after the event HOW DARE SHE He didn't seem to care when I unfriended him. Hmmph When you dumped him was like 3 benders before this one.

MFS62 May 11 2017 12:57 AM Re: Harvey Suspended!

That's what Harvey gets for using Instagram instead of facebook. Later

Ashie62 May 11 2017 01:34 AM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Facebook owns instagram. It's everywhere. Ack!

Centerfield May 11 2017 02:18 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Wait, so the Brazilian model who serially dates professional athletes move on (or back) to another athlete? Shocking. I don't think any of us could have seen this coming. What the hell Matt. Don't be the douchebag in the crew that actually falls for the stripper. My god.

G-Fafif May 11 2017 03:41 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Centerfield wrote: What the hell Matt. Don't be the douchebag in the crew that actually falls for the stripper. My god. He's a Harvey with a heart of gold. Entourage 2.0, coming this summer.

Benjamin Grimm May 11 2017 03:48 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

metirish May 11 2017 03:51 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

It's not Page Six but what is? http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2708 ... lite-again

cooby May 11 2017 04:17 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

My life has changed in four years too. This guy makes it seem like yesterday. I hope he does well tomorrow. It's like waiting for your kid's next report card after he/she got a 'D' in spanish

SteveJRogers May 11 2017 06:00 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

G-Fafif wrote: Centerfield wrote: What the hell Matt. Don't be the douchebag in the crew that actually falls for the stripper. My god. He's a Harvey with a heart of gold. Entourage 2.0, coming this summer. You know, I never pictured Scott Boras as an Ari Gold type of dochebag asshole.

Ashie62 May 11 2017 09:59 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

1. Look Boras in the eye. 2. Laugh 3. Say "Go Fish."

Rockin' Doc May 12 2017 01:03 AM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Centerfield wrote: Wait, so the Brazilian model who serially dates professional athletes move on (or back) to another athlete? Shocking. I don't think any of us could have seen this coming. What the hell Matt. Don't be the douchebag in the crew that actually falls for the stripper. My god. Yeah, that's Kris Benson's job. Please, don't be Kris Benson.

cooby May 13 2017 02:31 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

The sad part is having Harvey pitch his first game back from suspension on the road means he still has to get past the home town crowd. They should have just let him pitch in New York and gotten it over with

Edgy MD May 13 2017 02:40 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Well, if he got the job done against the Brewers, he might've been able to come back home with some authority and some water under the bridge. Does he get the getaway game against the Diamondbacks? Maybe he can aim for redemption then.

bmfc1 May 13 2017 03:02 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

cooby wrote: The sad part is having Harvey pitch his first game back from suspension on the road means he still has to get past the home town crowd. They should have just let him pitch in New York and gotten it over with The brain trust apparently wanted him to avoid facing the wrath of the New York crowd so he was moved to an away game... against a better hitting team.

d'Kong76 May 13 2017 03:30 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Not a terrible idea with the road start except that it's a tough place to pitch and throwing a lemon is just going to make his case worse. Gets another chance in the desert. He has to eventually face the music, it's part of fucking up. pitching a two hitter through seven and getting a win next game might quiet some at Citi, but I won't/ don't feel sorry for him either way.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 13 2017 03:45 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Since when should the Mets be concerned that Milwaukee should overpower them? Sure they get paid too, but Harvey wasn't going to beat San Francisco or Philadelphia or Pawtucket with the stuff he showed last night. Add to that it was a sloppy effort overall, which began with him, and even a better-pitched Harvey game might not have been enough. I've had enough of Harvey and his compromising the club. I know you're not supposed to trade mad but I'm mad, and I'm trading him.

cooby May 13 2017 03:48 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Totally agree.

Frayed Knot May 13 2017 05:26 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Remember when our biggest worry about Harvey was how quickly he was going to split for the Yanx once he became a FA?

d'Kong76 May 13 2017 06:55 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I know you're not supposed to trade mad but I'm mad, and I'm trading him. Probably pretty much how most of the upper ups feel at this point.

Edgy MD May 13 2017 07:33 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

I think you're allowed to trade mad if you you wanted to trade him before you were mad.

Ashie62 May 13 2017 08:47 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Harvey might be best served by Smithers or another type of behavioral management care. Baseball is second for the time being anyway.

cooby May 13 2017 09:48 PM Re: Harvey Suspended!

You think he's that bad off?

Ashie62 May 14 2017 12:54 AM Re: Harvey Suspended!

Maybe.

d'Kong76 May 14 2017 01:09 AM Re: Harvey Suspended!

I'm more in the change-of-scenery crowd than the Smithers/Betty crowd.

Nymr83 May 14 2017 01:51 AM Re: Harvey Suspended!

d'Kong76 wrote: I'm more in the change-of-scenery crowd than the Smithers/Betty crowd. Vegas might be a nice change of scenery for him - he does still have options so would not have to agree to it. pissing off Boras would be a happy side effect

d'Kong76 May 14 2017 01:59 AM Re: Harvey Suspended!

I dunno, Vegas might be just slightly better option than Tijuana?