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Wonder Woman (2017)
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| Centerfield Jun 05 2017 11:28 AM |
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Anyone see this yet? Wow. Terrific.
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| Benjamin Grimm Jun 05 2017 12:19 PM Re: Wonder Woman (2017) |
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Saw it on Saturday afternoon. I really enjoyed it. I liked that it wasn't entangled in the rest of the DC Universe and was set off on its own in World War I. And I liked the period setting as well.
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| Vic Sage Jun 05 2017 01:05 PM Re: Wonder Woman (2017) |
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She may be homely, but at least she's a nice Jewish girl.
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| Edgy MD Jun 06 2017 06:30 AM Re: Wonder Woman (2017) |
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Any of you cineastes going to cast a vote?
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| Centerfield Jun 06 2017 07:21 AM Re: Wonder Woman (2017) |
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I almost feel bad mentioning it because the movie is so much more than just a hot girl running around in a superhero costume, but wow. Absolutely stunning. I feel like the word "beautiful" applies to very few actresses today, but definitely is appropriate here.
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| Benjamin Grimm Jun 06 2017 08:17 AM Re: Wonder Woman (2017) |
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I half agree and half disagree. I think that there are a lot of beautiful actresses around, but Gal Godot definitely stands out among them. She really is stunning. In fact, I saw that photo that I posted above in a newspaper article and I literally had to will myself to turn the page.
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| cooby Jun 06 2017 10:57 AM Re: Wonder Woman (2017) |
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Is she scratching her back?
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| Benjamin Grimm Jun 06 2017 11:03 AM Re: Wonder Woman (2017) |
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Don't make me look at that picture again! I won't be able to stop!
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| LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 06 2017 10:47 PM Re: Wonder Woman (2017) |
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Kinda curious... who went with two stars? Why?
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| Benjamin Grimm Jun 07 2017 03:48 AM Re: Wonder Woman (2017) |
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I'm the 3.5.
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| Edgy MD Jun 07 2017 05:28 AM Re: Wonder Woman (2017) |
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Me. I found nothing original or particularly engaging in it. In the way of contemporary blockbusters, it was full of plot elements and money shots shamelessly cribbed from other films. Contemporary ones. Also, the stilted accents of the denizens of Paradise Island made for unintentional hilarity. As with a lot of latter-day superhero stories, the extent, nature, and limits of her powers were unclear and all over the map.
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| Vic Sage Jun 07 2017 08:00 AM Re: Wonder Woman (2017) |
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Saw it last night with the family. My kids don't agree on anything, and my son is a particular sort of "yuck your yum" type moviegoer, who'll tear to pieces even stuff he likes. But the only discussion in the car afterwards is where we placed it among the top comic book movies ever made. Is it #1, 3, 6? Nobody thought it was lower than 6th all-time.
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| Vic Sage Jun 07 2017 09:56 AM Re: Wonder Woman (2017) Edited 34 time(s), most recently on Jun 29 2017 12:43 PM |
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My rankings of 102 superhero movies, selected based on the following criteria:
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| Centerfield Jun 07 2017 11:56 AM Re: Wonder Woman (2017) |
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The love story on many levels. Between the Queen and Diana, between the Queen and Robin Wright's character, between WW and Chris Pine, between WW and humanity, and even the camraderie between Chris Pine and his band of misfits. The story had so much heart.
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| Centerfield Jun 07 2017 12:02 PM Re: Wonder Woman (2017) |
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Loved the accents. I get why it doesn't work for everyone, but I thought it added a lot to the characters. Was it done because Gal speaks with an accent and everyone had to match? Was wondering about that. If you're going to nitpick, you could go the route of "Why do the Germans speak to each other in broken English rather than their native German?" But why would you during such a great ride.
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| Benjamin Grimm Jun 07 2017 12:30 PM Re: Wonder Woman (2017) |
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You have the 2008 Hulk movie listed twice. I'm guessing the 2003 one is the one you say is unwatchable? If so, i agree.
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| Vic Sage Jun 07 2017 02:32 PM Re: Wonder Woman (2017) |
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lovvvvvvvvvvvved DEADPOOL Funny, good action, Reynolds was terrific, and great opening credits. It proved there was a market for R-rated comic book movies, which paved the way for LOGAN.
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| Benjamin Grimm Jun 07 2017 02:49 PM Re: Wonder Woman (2017) |
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I liked Logan a lot. I just didn't find Deadpool funny at all. And when you're not enjoying the humor, comedies are a chore to watch.
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| MFS62 Jun 08 2017 06:30 AM Re: Wonder Woman (2017) |
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You haven't broken the fourth wall. Vic, I liked Blade III. Ryan Reynolds began to show us sarcastic hero chops and that (as well as Jessica Beil's shower scene) made the movie for me. Also, (insert blushing emoticon here) I liked League of Extraordinary Gentlemen and The Phantom. I'm blushing because I can't figure out why I did. Later
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| Benjamin Grimm Jun 08 2017 06:42 AM Re: Wonder Woman (2017) |
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I didn't have any problem with the broken fourth wall. I like it when George Burns does it on Burns and Allen. And more recent examples include House of Cards and Fleabag.
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| MFS62 Jun 08 2017 06:46 AM Re: Wonder Woman (2017) |
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I had forgotten about that. So did I. LOL! I was trying to be funny, not nasty. Sorry. Later
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| Edgy MD Jun 08 2017 07:40 AM Re: Wonder Woman (2017) |
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That's the theory I'm working with, but match they did not. Different characters were slipping out of different studied versions of Germanic, English, Irish and other stuff. It felt Clash of the Titans hammy, only moreso.
I don't mean to nitpick. But yeah, when Diana is dueling languages with Samir, they used subtitles, but when Germans spoke to Germans, they used German-accented English. Either is a legit way to go, but both is offputting. You've got to stick with the rules of your own universe, man.
He's got Batman Begins twice also.
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| Nymr83 Jun 13 2017 11:20 AM Re: Wonder Woman (2017) |
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Absolutely loved it.
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| Edgy MD Jun 13 2017 11:27 AM Re: Wonder Woman (2017) |
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Sheesh, the culture is clearly going against me.
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| Benjamin Grimm Jun 13 2017 11:33 AM Re: Wonder Woman (2017) |
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Yeah, really! I mean, what about Barbarella?
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| Benjamin Grimm Jun 14 2017 07:19 AM Re: Wonder Woman (2017) |
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This letter appeared in the Voice of the People in today's Daily News.
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| Edgy MD Jun 14 2017 07:23 AM Re: Wonder Woman (2017) |
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Always sobering to find myself and Steve on the same side of an issue.
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| Nymr83 Jun 14 2017 08:34 AM Re: Wonder Woman (2017) |
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You are joking right? The Daily News actually published that letter?
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| Benjamin Grimm Jun 14 2017 08:38 AM Re: Wonder Woman (2017) |
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| Edgy MD Jun 14 2017 08:49 AM Re: Wonder Woman (2017) |
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Steve's apparently an old hand with his IBM Selectric. Writing to Mike Lupica in 1998:
Back with The Voice of the People in 2014:
To the Mighty Quinn in 2010:
I'm guessing Steve will NOT get tired of all the winning.
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| Benjamin Grimm Jun 14 2017 08:58 AM Re: Wonder Woman (2017) |
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Are you able to find out anything more about his lesbian friend Daisy?
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| dgwphotography Jun 14 2017 09:37 AM Re: Wonder Woman (2017) |
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| RealityChuck Jun 15 2017 02:14 PM Re: Wonder Woman (2017) |
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Great film that deserves to be on the Mount Rushmore of comic superhero movies with the Christopher Reeve Superman, the Tim Burton Batman and The Dark Knight. The final confrontation was the usual dull CGI fight, though it worked better because it had some ideas behind it. And the No Man's Land scene reached the level of cinema classic.
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| Benjamin Grimm Jun 15 2017 02:31 PM Re: Wonder Woman (2017) |
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The obligatory fight scene is the soft underbelly of these superhero movies. Some are better than others, but in just about every case they leave my mind wandering. Two examples of bad fight scenes that immediately come to mind are the 2008 Hulk movie and Iron Man 3. But there are many others.
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| cooby Jun 16 2017 06:02 AM Re: Wonder Woman (2017) |
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Seriously? That get up has nipple pouches?
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| MFS62 Jun 16 2017 07:33 AM Re: Wonder Woman (2017) |
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Seriously? Those things have a name? Later
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| cooby Jun 16 2017 08:20 AM Re: Wonder Woman (2017) |
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Well I made that up since I doubt it's ever been said before
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| Vic Sage Jun 16 2017 09:29 AM Re: Wonder Woman (2017) |
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even her nipples are powerful. they require industrial-strength pouches.
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| MFS62 Jun 16 2017 06:59 PM Re: Wonder Woman (2017) |
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[crossout]Oh, I had that thought that she was excited to see me, and since she's so powerful, ...[/crossout] Thanks. Good name. Later
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| dgwphotography Jun 21 2017 08:46 AM Re: Wonder Woman (2017) |
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George Clooney wonders what the big deal is with nipple pouches....
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| Edgy MD Jun 21 2017 09:04 AM Re: Wonder Woman (2017) |
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Joel Schumacher has recently openly apologized for Batman Forever, including the nipple pouches.
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| dgwphotography Jun 21 2017 09:09 AM Re: Wonder Woman (2017) |
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BTW, I don't think Wonder Woman has nipple pouches. I think that's just a reflection in that particular shot.
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| Benjamin Grimm Jun 21 2017 09:16 AM Re: Wonder Woman (2017) |
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Here's another image of her in costume. It doesn't look like there are any nipple bumps.
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| cooby Jun 21 2017 10:57 AM Re: Wonder Woman (2017) |
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Isn't it odd that we all focused on that though?
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| Centerfield Jun 21 2017 12:33 PM Re: Wonder Woman (2017) |
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That picture of Gal Gadot is even more stunning than the first.
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| Mets Willets Point Jun 22 2017 08:03 AM Re: Wonder Woman (2017) |
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What a Gal!
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| Vic Sage Jun 22 2017 11:09 AM Re: Wonder Woman (2017) |
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And your inability to discern any qualitative difference between BATMAN FOREVER and BATMAN (89), or even BATMAN RETURNS, is why you are the lone voice of dissent in this WONDER WOMAN lovefest.
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| Edgy MD Jun 22 2017 11:15 AM Re: Wonder Woman (2017) |
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I don't have an inability. I have a different opinion. I have a tremendous ability.
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| Centerfield Jun 23 2017 11:39 AM Re: Wonder Woman (2017) |
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What's the third movie that I'm missing? I wonder if I watched the third one. I liked Batman '89 a lot. Batman Returns was a big step back, but still better than Batman Forever. At least BR had Michelle Pfeiffer.
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| Centerfield Jun 23 2017 11:40 AM Re: Wonder Woman (2017) |
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I feel like I should disclose that I'm mainly participating in this discussion so I can come back and look at the GG picture again.
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| Edgy MD Jun 23 2017 11:56 AM Re: Wonder Woman (2017) |
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The fourth film was Batman & Robin, and that was actually the one Joel Schumacher apologized for.
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| Benjamin Grimm Jun 23 2017 12:12 PM Re: Wonder Woman (2017) |
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I'm pretty sure I only saw the first two of those movies, Batman and Batman Returns, and I hated them both. I have not seen Batman Forever or Batman & Robin.
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| Mets Willets Point Jun 23 2017 03:30 PM Re: Wonder Woman (2017) |
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I saw the one with Danny Devito and the one with Arnold Schwarzenegger and thought they were both terrible.
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| Centerfield Jun 23 2017 03:53 PM Re: Wonder Woman (2017) |
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It's not just the costume, but it doesn't hurt.
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| MFS62 Jun 23 2017 07:48 PM Re: Wonder Woman (2017) |
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She's a Wonder, all right.
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| Frayed Knot Jun 23 2017 10:32 PM Re: Wonder Woman (2017) |
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I don't know how you folks keep all those flicks straight.
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| LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 27 2017 01:20 PM Re: Wonder Woman (2017) |
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Finally saw it. The first 2/3 or so were great (if not flawless-- see: the nettlesome accent/language thing, the character implications of her more or less drops mourning her aunt/mentor after a day or two to flirt with Steve Trevor, etc.). Then it REALLY slows down into a slog during the Zach Snyder-y homestretch. Thewlis-- whom I like in most stuff, and LOVE as a scenery-chewing baddie in Fargo, is a weird choice for Ares. He's both miscast AND underused, if that's at all possible. The action climax is the usual CGI mess, if not more so than the usual. And I'm not even going to touch the liberal use of token cartoon ethnic stereotypes (Amazon mammy and animal-fighter? Goddamn CHIEF?) and male-sidekick spotlighting (Lois Lane didn't get ANYTHING like the screentime Trevor gets) in the movie-that's-different-than-them-all. (If it seems like I'm crucifying Patty Jenkins and the producers for this... I'm not. But if we're going to call a movie exceptional, it better damn well be exceptional.)
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| sharpie Jul 02 2017 10:09 PM Re: Wonder Woman (2017) |
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Pretty much agree with LWFS. It was good for a movie of that sort. That ridiculous fight scene at the end wrecked the last part of it. I did appreciate the lack of voiceover recurring wisdom of the elders reminding us of stuff we saw earlier in the movie - but I feel they'll stick that in the sequel(s).
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| cooby Jul 06 2017 03:01 PM Re: Wonder Woman (2017) |
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My granddaughter informs me that when she grows up, she is going to be WonderWoman and have 10 kids. Her mom will be responsible for watching them while she is out fighting bad people.
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| dgwphotography Jul 07 2017 12:15 AM Re: Wonder Woman (2017) |
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My youngest always wanted to be Spider-Man. Speaking of which, Spider-Man Homecoming was even better than WW
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| MFS62 Jul 13 2017 04:52 PM Re: Wonder Woman (2017) |
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Saw it today and liked it. I agree with LWFS's last paragraph about the final fight scene.
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| Frayed Knot Feb 22 2018 07:20 PM Re: Wonder Woman (2017) |
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Meh
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| Edgy MD Feb 22 2018 08:00 PM Re: Wonder Woman (2017) |
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You know it.
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| Mets Willets Point Feb 23 2018 09:06 AM Re: Wonder Woman (2017) |
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I finally saw Wonder Woman and it's terrific. 4 1/2 stars.
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| Centerfield Feb 28 2018 07:24 AM Re: Wonder Woman (2017) |
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I wonder if these responses correlate to how much a viewer falls in love with Gal Gadot.
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| TransMonk Feb 28 2018 08:00 AM Re: Wonder Woman (2017) |
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2/5 for me. Meh, for sure.
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| Edgy MD Feb 28 2018 08:41 AM Re: Wonder Woman (2017) |
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Walk with me, my two-star companion!
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| Frayed Knot Feb 28 2018 10:07 AM Re: Wonder Woman (2017) |
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Nah, nothing against Gadot. I just continue to be unimpressed with most of these superhero flicks. I don't see many of them, but every once in a while there'll be one -- this one, Black Panther, several of the Batmans, etc -- where I'm told that it's a great movie over and above merely being a geek-fest for fan-boys. And so I make a point of seeing a few of them yet still find myself missing what everyone else apparently sees. So I acknowledge that it's probably me, but I thought it was an OK movie at best.
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