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IGT, 5/12/17 NYM@MIL

Edgy MD
May 11 2017 05:57 PM

Lots of returns possible. Harvey is announced. Cabrera is likely. Duda is possible. d'Arnaud ... I wouldn't bet on it.

Likely lineup:

[list=1:2p5xkua2][*:2p5xkua2]Conforto, lf[/*:m:2p5xkua2]
[*:2p5xkua2]Cabrera, ss[/*:m:2p5xkua2]
[*:2p5xkua2]Bruce, rf[/*:m:2p5xkua2]
[*:2p5xkua2]Walker, 2b[/*:m:2p5xkua2]
[*:2p5xkua2]Duda, 1b[/*:m:2p5xkua2]
[*:2p5xkua2]Granderson, cf[/*:m:2p5xkua2]
[*:2p5xkua2]Reyes, 3b[/*:m:2p5xkua2]
[*:2p5xkua2]Rivera, c[/*:m:2p5xkua2]
[*:2p5xkua2]Harvey, sp[/*:m:2p5xkua2][/list:o:2p5xkua2]

Matt Garza opposes. He's been pitching well, but he's mostly a mediocre pitcher. Possible lineup shakeups, besides the returnees, might include returning Reyes to the leadoff spot and dropping Conforto to second. Just a thought. I bet that's what they're going to do when (if) Céspedes returns, giving them a righty in the three-hole to spit up Conforto and Bruce.

sharpie
May 11 2017 08:26 PM
Re: IGT, 5/12/17 NYM@MIL

Kinda hate to sit TJ Rivera right now.

Edgy MD
May 11 2017 08:35 PM
Re: IGT, 5/12/17 NYM@MIL

There's every chance he plays first or third if he's in the house. Duda is expected back this series, but I'm just guessing that he'll be in there for Game One.

cooby
May 12 2017 01:13 AM
Re: IGT, 5/12/17 NYM@MIL

Ahahahahahahahahaha!

d'Kong76
May 12 2017 12:45 PM
Re: IGT, 5/12/17 NYM@MIL

NY Mets at Milwaukee
When: 8:10 PM ET, Friday, May 12, 2017
Where: Miller Park, Milwaukee, Wisconsin
By Gracenote

As if the New York Mets haven't experienced enough adversity with their rotation, they face the real possibility of being without their closer for a significant amount of time. Following a diagnosis of an arterial clot in Jeurys Familia's right shoulder on their day off, the Mets take their short-handed pitching staff to Milwaukee for the opener of a three-game set Friday against the Brewers.

Noah Syndergaard (lat) and Steven Matz (elbow) have combined for a total of five starts because of injuries, while Friday's scheduled starter Matt Harvey is only a few days removed from a suspension he received for missing his Saturday's home turn against Miami because of an unexcused absence. To add insult to injury, the Mets on Thursday learned Familia, who served a 15-game suspension at the beginning of the season because of a violation of the domestic violence policy, will travel to St. Louis for further evaluation on his shoulder and possible surgery. Milwaukee began its six-game homestand by taking two of three from Boston, although it watched its three-game winning streak snapped in Thursday's 4-1 loss to the Red Sox. The Brewers are experiencing their own injury issues as Ryan Braun could be sidelined for a while after the team announced the six-time All-Star is dealing with a calf strain instead of the calf tightness that led to his early exit Wednesday.

TV: 8:10 p.m. ET, SNY (New York), FSN Wisconsin (Milwaukee)

PITCHING MATCHUP: Mets RH Matt Harvey (2-2, 5.14 ERA) vs. Brewers RH Matt Garza (1-0, 2.55)

Harvey will return to the mound for the first time since serving a team-imposed three-game suspension for violating team rules last weekend hoping to end a four-game winless streak. The 2013 All-Star has struggled mightily over his last two outings - both losses against Atlanta - giving up six runs in each turn while surrendering a total of 13 hits and eight walks across 9 2/3 innings. Harvey settled for a no-decision in his only career start versus the Brewers last season despite allowing one run and two hits while fanning eight in six frames.

After posting an ERA north of 4.50 in back-to-back seasons, Garza is off to a strong start in 2017 and coming off his best effort - a no-decision at Pittsburgh in which he yielded one run on eight hits over seven innings. The 12-year veteran hasn't issued a free pass in either one of his last two outings spanning 13 2/3 innings and owns a 5:1 strikeout-to-walk ratio, more than twice his career mark (2.4). Jay Bruce (12-for-33, three home runs) has thrived versus Garza, who is 1-1 with a 4.97 ERA in four starts against the Mets.

WALK-OFFS:
1. Mets RHP Addison Reed went 4-for-4 in save chances during Familia's season-opening absence.
2. Brewers RHP Corey Knebel has not allowed a run in nine straight and 17 of 19 outings this season. He is the only reliever in the majors to record at least one strikeout in every appearance this season (minimum 15 games).
3. New York entered Thursday leading the majors in run scored in May (64).

cooby
May 12 2017 02:42 PM
Re: IGT, 5/12/17 NYM@MIL

Dang it's Yankee night on Channel 11

cooby
May 12 2017 02:43 PM
Re: IGT, 5/12/17 NYM@MIL

I need you guys to describe every single play! :D

Ashie62
May 12 2017 03:06 PM
Re: IGT, 5/12/17 NYM@MIL

sharpie wrote:
Kinda hate to sit TJ Rivera right now.


Me too. I am not a Duda fan.

Fman99
May 12 2017 03:52 PM
Re: IGT, 5/12/17 NYM@MIL

I like the 8:10 start, Fboy has a 6 PM LL game so I should still make it home sometime during inning 1.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
May 12 2017 03:55 PM
Re: IGT, 5/12/17 NYM@MIL

How many times do the Mets need to go a wicked tailspin without Duda in the lineup to convince people he's a terrific asset? He's twice the player TJ Rivera is, and I'm heavy into TJ.

Edgy MD
May 12 2017 03:58 PM
Re: IGT, 5/12/17 NYM@MIL

Just to review from another thread:

Top Ten Homer Totals at CitiField

1. DUDA 61
2. WRIGHT 50
3. GRANDERSON 32
4. Davis 30
5. Murphy 27
6. FLORES 25
7. CESPEDES 20
8. REYES 19
9. CABRERA 18
10 D'ARNAUD 16

sharpie
May 12 2017 04:20 PM
Re: IGT, 5/12/17 NYM@MIL

Not saying that TJ should necessarily displace Duda. I wouldn't mind sitting Jose or Walker down for a day or two.

Edgy MD
May 12 2017 05:36 PM
Re: IGT, 5/12/17 NYM@MIL

First game all season played outside of EST.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
May 12 2017 05:56 PM
Re: IGT, 5/12/17 NYM@MIL

Yeah I'd start TJ at 3rd

Frayed Knot
May 12 2017 08:43 PM
Re: IGT, 5/12/17 NYM@MIL

Brewers put Ryan Braun on the DL as of today, so that's one bat we won't have to deal with this weekend.
He had been in and out of the lineup recently.

This also removes one of the names on this team I actually knew.
Mini-KTE:

Catcher is being swapped between Manny Pina and Jett Bandy, who both sound like characters in some kid's TV show. Both are actually hitting OK though whoever they are.
1B - Eric Thames, the reclamation project who spent the last three years in Korea and was leading the majors in HRs over the early going. Still OPS'ing 1173
2B - Jonathan Villar ... not hitting
SS - Orlando Arcia ... 22 y/o 2nd year player, also not hitting
3B - Travis Shaw ... acquired from Boston in a mid-year deal last season
CF - Keon Broxton; RF - Domingo Santana ... or so it says.

Carlos Torres is in their bullpen
Kirk Nieuwenhuis was released earlier in the year.

Edgy MD
May 12 2017 08:55 PM
Re: IGT, 5/12/17 NYM@MIL

Their director of scouting is Tim McIlvaine, son of former Mets GM Joe McIlvaine. That's about as Metly a connection as I've got.

Calling games on the radio is Bob Uecker, who belongs to the world.

sharpie
May 12 2017 09:00 PM
Re: IGT, 5/12/17 NYM@MIL

Conforto lf
Cabrera ss
Bruce rf
Walker 2b
Granderson cf
TJ Rivera 3b
Duda 1b
R Rivera c
Harvey p

d'Kong76
May 12 2017 09:26 PM
Re: IGT, 5/12/17 NYM@MIL


Villar 2B
Thames 1B
Perez LF
Shaw 3B
Santana RF
Bandy C
Broxton CF
Sogard SS
Garza P

Edgy MD
May 12 2017 09:47 PM
Re: IGT, 5/12/17 NYM@MIL

sharpie wrote:
Conforto lf
Cabrera ss
Bruce rf
Walker 2b
Granderson cf
TJ Rivera 3b
Duda 1b
R Rivera c
Harvey p

Whoah!

cooby
May 12 2017 11:48 PM
Re: IGT, 5/12/17 NYM@MIL

cooby wrote:
Ahahahahahahahahaha!



Duda's playing? I am happy to be wrong about this.

But :( that Flores isn't playing; I'm sure he'd like to get back in there.

cooby
May 13 2017 12:24 AM
Re: IGT, 5/12/17 NYM@MIL

what time does this start?

d'Kong76
May 13 2017 12:31 AM
Re: IGT, 5/12/17 NYM@MIL

Onward and upward, Happy Harvey Day...

Frayed Knot
May 13 2017 12:36 AM
Re: IGT, 5/12/17 NYM@MIL

cooby wrote:
what time does this start?


26 minutes ago.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
May 13 2017 12:38 AM
Re: IGT, 5/12/17 NYM@MIL

Walker walked and TJ had a one out single but Doodoo grounded into a first pitch double play

John Cougar Lunchbucket
May 13 2017 12:48 AM
Re: IGT, 5/12/17 NYM@MIL

Harve helps himself for the first time ever.

Edgy MD
May 13 2017 12:52 AM
Re: IGT, 5/12/17 NYM@MIL

Why do they seemingly only wear the silver insignia for Harvey starts?

Edgy MD
May 13 2017 12:54 AM
Re: IGT, 5/12/17 NYM@MIL

If Harvey had gotten off the mound with some alacrity, he couldv'e gotten to that ball in plenty of time, Villar would be out, and Harvey in the dugout.

Edgy MD
May 13 2017 12:57 AM
Re: IGT, 5/12/17 NYM@MIL

That runner 40 feet from home is mess't up.

Edgy MD
May 13 2017 12:58 AM
Re: IGT, 5/12/17 NYM@MIL

Thames flips out over a strikeout. Throws a bat. Throws a helmet. Throws an elbow guard.

No way that that guy is juiced.

d'Kong76
May 13 2017 01:04 AM
Re: IGT, 5/12/17 NYM@MIL

Edgy MD wrote:
Why do they seemingly only wear the silver insignia for Harvey starts?

It's actually platinum, nothing but the best for Matt.

Edgy MD
May 13 2017 01:04 AM
Re: IGT, 5/12/17 NYM@MIL

Next time you get suspended, Harv, use the extra time to learn to bunt. Sheesh.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
May 13 2017 01:07 AM
Re: IGT, 5/12/17 NYM@MIL

Edgy MD wrote:
Next time you get suspended, Harv, use the extra time to learn to bunt. Sheesh.


He has to be the least competent bunter I've ever seen. He's an absolute disgrace.

Edgy MD
May 13 2017 01:08 AM
Re: IGT, 5/12/17 NYM@MIL

And after five years, it's hard to see how that doesn't reflect at least somewhat on the coaches.

I have no idea what Gorman Thomas is talking about. I feel like I just had a beer with Ted Nugent.

Edgy MD
May 13 2017 01:13 AM
Re: IGT, 5/12/17 NYM@MIL

Way to triple-loop the f-bomb, broadcasters.

Mets Guy in Michigan
May 13 2017 01:15 AM
Re: IGT, 5/12/17 NYM@MIL

Harvey not looking that sharp so far.

Of course, the defense isn't helping much.

Frayed Knot
May 13 2017 01:20 AM
Re: IGT, 5/12/17 NYM@MIL

And again it's the real problem with our now-depleted bullpen: that our starters are going to leave them so many innings to cover.
Harvey needed about 4-1/2 innings worth of pitches just to get thru 3, meaning he's not going deep into this game even if he holds them to no more runs.

Edgy MD
May 13 2017 01:21 AM
Re: IGT, 5/12/17 NYM@MIL

Does everybody on this team curse and throw stuff like babies when they strike out? They're almost making Harvey look like the grownup out there.

I have to say that his body language is still crappy. He doesn't consistently finish pitches, either sagging and falling away as he finishes his pitch or standing on his landing foot watching his handiwork, which can be a tip. Get in fielding position, man.

41Forever
May 13 2017 01:26 AM
Re: IGT, 5/12/17 NYM@MIL

Walker BOOM!!!![table:1gp5h23g][/table:1gp5h23g]

Edgy MD
May 13 2017 01:36 AM
Re: IGT, 5/12/17 NYM@MIL

I don't care how Gary says Thames' name, but I pronounce it as "temms."

And I don't care if his first name is spelled "Eric," I pronounce it as "Marcus."

Lefty Specialist
May 13 2017 01:37 AM
Re: IGT, 5/12/17 NYM@MIL

Harvey will barely go 5 tonight. Another night to overwork the bullpen.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
May 13 2017 01:41 AM
Re: IGT, 5/12/17 NYM@MIL

Doodle is going to tie this thing up, just watch

John Cougar Lunchbucket
May 13 2017 01:42 AM
Re: IGT, 5/12/17 NYM@MIL

Harv was gonna give it right back anyway

Edgy MD
May 13 2017 01:47 AM
Re: IGT, 5/12/17 NYM@MIL

Lefty Specialist wrote:
Harvey will barely go 5 tonight. Another night to overwork the bullpen.

Two guys pitch two innings each, five guys sit, and it's all good.

cooby
May 13 2017 01:48 AM
Re: IGT, 5/12/17 NYM@MIL

Score?

Fman99
May 13 2017 02:00 AM
Re: IGT, 5/12/17 NYM@MIL

Edgy MD wrote:
Way to triple-loop the f-bomb, broadcasters.


Fboy noticed this one. He said it was like being on the school bus. Funny kid.

Fman99
May 13 2017 02:06 AM
Re: IGT, 5/12/17 NYM@MIL

Yeah Neil! Brand new game.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
May 13 2017 02:09 AM
Re: IGT, 5/12/17 NYM@MIL

Stupid Jay. Couldn't you wait till we cleared the Grandy?

Fman99
May 13 2017 02:10 AM
Re: IGT, 5/12/17 NYM@MIL

Yeah. Seen too many outs on the bases this season. Unforced errors suck a cold hot dog.

Edgy MD
May 13 2017 02:10 AM
Re: IGT, 5/12/17 NYM@MIL

Heckuva throw though.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
May 13 2017 02:11 AM
Re: IGT, 5/12/17 NYM@MIL

2-2 going to bottom 6. Walker has HR and an RBI single. We had two guys on just now but Jay Bruce was caught off second base to end the inning.

Now let's see if Harv can avoid giving it right back.

Fman99
May 13 2017 02:13 AM
Re: IGT, 5/12/17 NYM@MIL

Ugh. He sure did give it back. Fuckin Hat Marvey. Pitching like Hat Garbage.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
May 13 2017 02:13 AM
Re: IGT, 5/12/17 NYM@MIL

What did I fucking tell you. Harvey is garbage.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
May 13 2017 02:14 AM
Re: IGT, 5/12/17 NYM@MIL

I like how we both used the terms "fucking" and "garbage" to describe Harvey

Frayed Knot
May 13 2017 02:15 AM
Re: IGT, 5/12/17 NYM@MIL

No one on this staff can seem to avoid the give-back inning this year.

Fman99
May 13 2017 02:16 AM
Re: IGT, 5/12/17 NYM@MIL

Jesus tap dancing Christ. Back to back dingers against these turkeys.

41Forever
May 13 2017 02:16 AM
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Come get him, Terry.

Frayed Knot
May 13 2017 02:17 AM
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Well at least he's not giving up second deck shots to weak-hitting middle infielders ... oh wait.

cooby
May 13 2017 02:25 AM
Re: IGT, 5/12/17 NYM@MIL

(Slaps forehead)

And where is zvon?

Fman99
May 13 2017 02:41 AM
Re: IGT, 5/12/17 NYM@MIL

Unreal.

d'Kong76
May 13 2017 02:52 AM
Re: IGT, 5/12/17 NYM@MIL

That's ok Jose, you take your time. You want a pillow?

Fman99
May 13 2017 03:11 AM
Re: IGT, 5/12/17 NYM@MIL

Welll, well well, trying to make a game out of this turd casserole. Now 7-4 and tying run on deck. C'mon you Mets.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
May 13 2017 03:19 AM
Re: IGT, 5/12/17 NYM@MIL

#%*@

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
May 13 2017 07:22 AM
Re: IGT, 5/12/17 NYM@MIL

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
Edgy MD wrote:
Next time you get suspended, Harv, use the extra time to learn to bunt. Sheesh.


He has to be the least competent bunter I've ever seen. He's an absolute disgrace.


Can't sleep between the hours of midnight and 4 am? Torn up over Adriana?

Fuck, man, look up bunting videos on YouTube and practice. Christ, do it drunk if that helps.

Sogard. Arcia. Hell, if anything should keep you awake Googling bunting videos, or something productive...

Edgy MD
May 13 2017 11:24 AM
Re: IGT, 5/12/17 NYM@MIL

The game kind of turned from that point, didn't it? Not literally, but I felt outgamed 800 miles away. The booth was on another subject and didn't rip him at all, but between his bunting (doesn't even get the bat head in fair territory) and his defense (standing on one leg), it's amazing how defiantly disinterested he is in the peripheral fundamentals of being a ballplayer.

I don't buy this Adriana thing, but he sure seems to be broken somewhere.

Benjamin Grimm
May 13 2017 11:50 AM
Re: IGT, 5/12/17 NYM@MIL



Cast your vote!

Frayed Knot
May 13 2017 12:32 PM
Re: IGT, 5/12/17 NYM@MIL

Edgy MD wrote:
I don't buy this Adriana thing, but he sure seems to be broken somewhere.


Bu ... but, "baseball sources" confirmed it was on account of her!!!

Gary also described his outing last night as 'pretty good until it all fell apart' - or words to that effect. Keith seemed overly praise-worthy as well.
No boys, he was, at best, mediocre thru the 5th: 97 pitches (20+ more than average much less 'good') including 5 walks (one semi-intentional) even if only 4 hits and 6 K's

TransMonk
May 13 2017 07:49 PM
Re: IGT, 5/12/17 NYM@MIL

Had great seats for the game...if we were any closer we'd be playing. The tickets said row 4, but the first three rows were taken up by the camera well, so it was really row 1.

[fimg=500:20n2cnib]http://i.imgur.com/Lnl2xTp.jpg[/fimg:20n2cnib]

I sat next to an older couple that drove in from Sioux City, Iowa. The guy had a voice like Lou the manager from Major League.

Harvey had horrible body language all night. The whole team seemed flat.

The best Brewer fans of the night were three guys that dressed up as Batman villains. The Penguin and Riddler were half-assed, but the Joker was the best.

[fimg=300:20n2cnib]http://i.imgur.com/BKR8dnT.png[/fimg:20n2cnib]

I'll be back for game two...hopefully with a better result.

As an aside...I wasn't driving last night, so I stayed out late, had a few beers and woke up with a headache. I still showed up for an optional softball practice this morning. How about that, Matty?

Edgy MD
May 13 2017 11:11 PM
Re: IGT, 5/12/17 NYM@MIL

TransMonk wrote:
Harvey had horrible body language all night.

I'm sayin'!

This is a good test for the Mets. A similar team built around sluggifying. If we're not outplaying them, we're not playing well. Because they're playing the same type of game.

Benjamin Grimm
May 28 2017 12:57 PM
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