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IGT 5/21/2017: ANA@NYM—Paris Trout

Edgy MD
May 21 2017 03:03 AM

Righthander Jesse Chavez looks for his 30th career victory and a chance to stop the flaming hot Mets from extending their two-game winning streak. Trying to complete the sweep for the Mets is lefty Tommy Milone, himself looking for career win #46.

d'Kong76
May 21 2017 02:30 PM
Re: IGT 5/21/2017: ANA@NYM—Paris Trout

LA Angels at NY Mets
When: 1:10 PM ET, Sunday, May 21, 2017
Where: Citi Field, New York City, New York
By Gracenote

Returning home has helped put some life in the New York Mets, who will go for their second series sweep of the season when they host the Los Angeles Angels on Sunday for the finale of their three-game set. The Mets were on a seven-game losing streak that included an 0-6 road trip before taking the first two contests against Los Angeles.

New York, which hasn't won three in a row since a five-game run from April 9-13, celebrated a pair of notable milestones in Saturday's 7-5 victory. Terry Collins managed his 1,013th game to surpass Davey Johnson for the most in franchise history and was able to enjoy it thanks to Jose Reyes, who collected his 2,000th hit as part of a 3-for-4, two-RBI performance. The Angels arrived in New York riding a four-game winning streak, but Saturday's setback dropped them below .500 and to a woeful 7-15 away from home. Andrelton Simmons is 4-for-8 in the series and has recorded multiple hits in four of his last five games.

TV: 1:10 p.m. ET, FSN West (Anaheim), WPIX (New York)

PITCHING MATCHUP: Angels RH Jesse Chavez (3-5, 4.22 ERA) vs. Mets LH Tommy Milone (1-1, 6.25)

Chavez matched his season high of seven innings last time out versus the Chicago White Sox, ending a three-start drought by giving up three runs and five hits. The 33-year-old Californian has worked at least six frames in five of his last six turns, but he continues to struggle with the long ball, allowing eight in his last eight appearances. Chavez has lost all three of his road starts this year despite posting a 3.38 ERA.

Scooped up off waivers to provide depth to an injury-ravaged rotation, Milone will be making his third start for New York. He was touched for five runs and six hits in 5 2/3 innings at Arizona last time out after giving up two runs over five frames in his Mets debut. Milone saw plenty of the Angels during his time with Oakland and is 6-2 in 12 starts against them, limiting Mike Trout to five hits in 24 at-bats.

WALK-OFFS:
1. Angels DH Albert Pujols (hamstring), who sat out the first two games of the series, is 11-for-25 with seven doubles against Milone.
2. Mets 2B Neil Walker has collected 12 RBIs while hitting safely in 10 of his last 11 contests.
3. Los Angeles signed veteran free-agent RHP Doug Fister on Saturday.

d'Kong76
May 21 2017 04:27 PM
Re: IGT 5/21/2017: ANA@NYM—Paris Trout

Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 21 2017 04:28 PM


Conforto LF
Flores 3B
Bruce RF
Walker 2B
Granderson CF
Duda 1B
Plawecki C
Reynolds SS
Milone P

d'Kong76
May 21 2017 04:28 PM
Re: IGT 5/21/2017: ANA@NYM—Paris Trout


Maybin LF
Simmons SS
Trout CF
Marte 3B
Cron 1B
Calhoun RF
Espinosa 2B
Maldonado C
Chavez P

Ashie62
May 21 2017 05:07 PM
Re: IGT 5/21/2017: ANA@NYM—Paris Trout

Flores in the two hole and Matt Reynolds makes a cameo at short.

Ashie62
May 21 2017 05:14 PM
Re: IGT 5/21/2017: ANA@NYM—Paris Trout

Milone in large trouble already.

IBB to Trout to load the bases.

Ashie62
May 21 2017 05:18 PM
Re: IGT 5/21/2017: ANA@NYM—Paris Trout

Milone walks in a run.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
May 21 2017 05:18 PM
Re: IGT 5/21/2017: ANA@NYM—Paris Trout

Uh

Ashie62
May 21 2017 05:19 PM
Re: IGT 5/21/2017: ANA@NYM—Paris Trout

Grand Slam Cris Cron

5-0 Angels

None out.

Edgy MD
May 21 2017 05:26 PM
Re: IGT 5/21/2017: ANA@NYM—Paris Trout

Well, this isn't the way we drew it up.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
May 21 2017 05:27 PM
Re: IGT 5/21/2017: ANA@NYM—Paris Trout

It's early.

Edgy MD
May 21 2017 05:28 PM
Re: IGT 5/21/2017: ANA@NYM—Paris Trout

And Fortie saves some bacon.

Edgy MD
May 21 2017 05:32 PM
Re: IGT 5/21/2017: ANA@NYM—Paris Trout

That's JEFRY Marte at third, Keef, not JERRY.

Former Mets minor leaguer traded to the A's for Colin Cowgill and his opening day power.

d'Kong76
May 21 2017 05:36 PM
Re: IGT 5/21/2017: ANA@NYM—Paris Trout

Good lord, don't blink!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
May 21 2017 05:53 PM
Re: IGT 5/21/2017: ANA@NYM—Paris Trout

NOT DOING GREAT, TOM

Edgy MD
May 21 2017 05:57 PM
Re: IGT 5/21/2017: ANA@NYM—Paris Trout

Giving new meaning to "Mayday Milone."

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
May 21 2017 06:01 PM
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Hey, but at least he wasn't jetlagged.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
May 21 2017 06:04 PM
Re: IGT 5/21/2017: ANA@NYM—Paris Trout

Yeah, I'll be enjoying my family. Let me know how this turns out, willya?

Edgy MD
May 21 2017 06:11 PM
Re: IGT 5/21/2017: ANA@NYM—Paris Trout

Keith is selling the old, "Expansion waters down talent" story.

Edgy MD
May 21 2017 06:13 PM
Re: IGT 5/21/2017: ANA@NYM—Paris Trout

You quit on me, Grandy.

I should have come up with a better thread title.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
May 21 2017 06:15 PM
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Keith also sells a hair dye that is only differentiated from other hair dyes by its higher price, picture of a dude on the package, and inclusion of a mustache comb inside.

Edgy MD
May 21 2017 06:20 PM
Re: IGT 5/21/2017: ANA@NYM—Paris Trout

OK, thank you, Matt Reynolds. That's one.

batmagadanleadoff
May 21 2017 06:22 PM
Re: IGT 5/21/2017: ANA@NYM—Paris Trout

Edgy MD wrote:
Keith is selling the old, "Expansion waters down talent" story.


He's right and it does.

Edgy MD
May 21 2017 06:34 PM
Re: IGT 5/21/2017: ANA@NYM—Paris Trout

batmagadanleadoff wrote:
Edgy MD wrote:
Keith is selling the old, "Expansion waters down talent" story.


He's right and it does.

You surprise me.

It seems to be obvious math that the growth of the US population and the growth of the international talent pool has far outstripped the growth of available MLB roster spots.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
May 21 2017 06:36 PM
Re: IGT 5/21/2017: ANA@NYM—Paris Trout

batmagadanleadoff wrote:
Edgy MD wrote:
Keith is selling the old, "Expansion waters down talent" story.


He's right and it does.


Just For Men With Confirmation Bias?

batmagadanleadoff
May 21 2017 07:03 PM
Re: IGT 5/21/2017: ANA@NYM—Paris Trout

Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 21 2017 07:15 PM

Edgy MD wrote:
Edgy MD wrote:
Keith is selling the old, "Expansion waters down talent" story.


He's right and it does.

You surprise me.

It seems to be obvious math that the growth of the US population and the growth of the international talent pool has far outstripped the growth of available MLB roster spots.


I agree with your theory. But how much has the talent pool expanded? And since when? I wasn't watching the game when Keith spoke, so I don't know precisely what expansion period he was talking about, if any, or if he was just generalizing.

MLB added two teams in 1998, just a few years after adding the Marlins and Rockies, for example. Did the talent pool expand so much in those four years before 1998 to account for two new teams without watering down the quality of MLB play? If the talent pool is as big as you suggest, and that there's room for more teams without watering down the quality of MLB play, then that means that it should be extremely easy to replace the two, three or four players at the bottom of every team's 25 man roster depth chart without suffering a noticeable drop in talent. But that, I don't see.


OE -- Don't forget that -- assuming that talent evaluation is more or less accurate and efficient, when MLB expands, it adds players that otherwise would still be in the minor leagues. Two new teams means you'd have 50 new major leaguers, most of them worse than Adam Wilk and Rafael Montero. How is that not watering down the league?

Frayed Knot
May 21 2017 07:14 PM
Re: IGT 5/21/2017: ANA@NYM—Paris Trout

We're not dead yet!

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Frayed Knot
May 21 2017 07:44 PM
Re: IGT 5/21/2017: ANA@NYM—Paris Trout

Well, Hansel Robles seems to be officially broken.
Not sure if anyone has the instruction manual to put him back together.

Benjamin Grimm
May 21 2017 07:48 PM
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I'm starting to think he may not win 20 games this year after all.

cooby
May 21 2017 08:11 PM
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I'm starting to think the Mets might not win 20 games this year

Edgy MD
May 21 2017 09:39 PM
Re: IGT 5/21/2017: ANA@NYM—Paris Trout

A 9-2 loss in the walks column. That's where we're getting kilt on both sides of the ball.

I got to dig another garden bed. I sang "Secret Garden" as I dug.

Ashie62
May 21 2017 10:13 PM
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Mayday Milone got paid in the ballpark of $20,000 for his efforts today. Wow.

bmfc1
May 21 2017 10:48 PM
Re: IGT 5/21/2017: ANA@NYM—Paris Trout

Edgy MD wrote:
I got to dig another garden bed. I sang "Secret Garden" as I dug.

I did the same thing (not the singing, the planting). At 7-0, the Mets loss became Home Depot's gain.

Rockin' Doc
May 21 2017 10:59 PM
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Time to dump the fish angle as this game stank worse than an overheated can of Surströmming.

Edgy MD
May 21 2017 11:37 PM
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It's like the Mets forced Noah Syndergaard to get an MRI, and the MRI revealed he was Tommy Milone.

Benjamin Grimm
May 22 2017 12:04 AM
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Is this the end of Mayday Milone? I think we've seen enough of him, but I'm not sure what the alternative is. Someone from Vegas? Another shot for Montero?

Fman99
May 22 2017 12:27 AM
Re: IGT 5/21/2017: ANA@NYM—Paris Trout

I watched 0% of this game. Seems to have been a good life choice for me.

Edgy MD
May 22 2017 12:53 AM
Re: IGT 5/21/2017: ANA@NYM—Paris Trout

Benjamin Grimm wrote:
Is this the end of Mayday Milone? I think we've seen enough of him, but I'm not sure what the alternative is. Someone from Vegas? Another shot for Montero?

One day at a time right now, I think. Pill pitched today. He doesn't strike folks out, but he keeps the ball in the park, with only two homers in 56 1/3 innings. At 4-1 with 1.60 ERA, I would think he's got to be a candidate.

Edgy MD
May 22 2017 01:13 AM
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OE -- Don't forget that -- assuming that talent evaluation is more or less accurate and efficient, when MLB expands, it adds players that otherwise would still be in the minor leagues. Two new teams means you'd have 50 new major leaguers, most of them worse than Adam Wilk and Rafael Montero. How is that not watering down the league?

Because they add a team, on average once every 8.36 years. So yeah, if you measure it from the very minute before two teams were added to the very minute after, talent has been watered down. If you measure it over time, no it hasn't.

Keith was speaking from his "day"—the midpoint of his career (the mexridian) being 1982—to now. Four teams have been added in 35 years since then. A 15.3% increase. The earth's population has increased by 63% in that time.

Edgy MD
May 22 2017 01:38 AM
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Teddyway, we got a scoreless inning from Neil Ramirez. So he gets off his shneid. But I think anybody who goes to bed with an infinite ERA even for one night, and has to enter his next appearance with "ERA: INF" on the scoreboard, gets to go home with a Lino Urndaneta Award.

Benjamin Grimm
May 22 2017 01:51 PM
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Cast your vote!

d'Kong76
May 22 2017 01:58 PM
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There she is, our hearts aflutter!

themetfairy
May 23 2017 12:28 AM
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BG - I intended to give Jay Bruce 2.5 points for this game, but somehow it didn't show up. May I ask you to add that please?

Benjamin Grimm
May 23 2017 12:42 PM
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Done!

themetfairy
May 23 2017 03:28 PM
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Thanks!

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 14 2017 02:11 PM
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