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IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

Ceetar May 24 2017 01:07 PM

Gsellman versus Jarred Cosart, not Zack Cozart. No Padre has seen Bobby, whereas Granderson is 0/17 against 'red. If Bruce can go, expect to see Curtis sit.

Edgy MD May 24 2017 01:23 PM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

Good day to play José Reyes in center.

Ceetar May 24 2017 01:28 PM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

Edgy MD wrote: Good day to play José Reyes in center. TJ Third, Flores short? I guess. I hate that the Mets punt defense this aggressively. Though you have to do Lagares in Center and Reyes in right... I'd just play Granderson, 0/17 is extremely small sample.

Frayed Knot May 24 2017 01:31 PM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

Might as well get all you can out of Granderson now seeing as how the days of him being a full-time player are numbered, quite possibly in the single digits.

Edgy MD May 24 2017 01:43 PM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

Ceetar wrote: Good day to play José Reyes in center. TJ Third, Flores short? I guess. Or TJ at short. Or Reynolds at short. Ceetar wrote: I hate that the Mets punt defense this aggressively. Agreed, but Reynolds at short wouldn't be punting, and given a little time, Reyes would probably give you at least as much in center as Granderson. Ceetar wrote: Though you have to do Lagares in Center and Reyes in right... Unless you do Reyes in center and Bruce Magoose in right. Ceetar wrote: I'd just play Granderson, 0/17 is extremely small sample. I don't know. Maybe, but I'm holding it side-by-side with his 24-for-145 this season.

Ceetar May 24 2017 01:49 PM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

I actually forgot about Reynolds. oops! Flores has good numbers against Cosart, also in a pretty meaningless sample, so he'll probably be in there somewhere. Granderson actually has a .910 OPS over the last 14 games.

Ashie62 May 24 2017 04:20 PM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

Jose Reyes seems like he could be a natural in CF and lord knows he hits better than Lagares. You could move Lagares out of the organization and replace him with Nimmo. You might get a couple high A guys for Laggy. Pitchers please.

Ceetar May 24 2017 07:24 PM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

Ashie62 wrote: Jose Reyes seems like he could be a natural in CF and lord knows he hits better than Lagares. You could move Lagares out of the organization and replace him with Nimmo. You might get a couple high A guys for Laggy. Pitchers please. Lagares is hitting better than Reyes this year. Reyes has no range in the infield, and no practice judging fly balls isn't going to give him good range in the outfield. Lagares adds a ton of value in the outfield. I'm still not convinced we shouldn't be aiming for a Cespedes-Lagares-Conforto outfield by July.

d'Kong76 May 24 2017 07:55 PM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

Maggot CF Solarte 2B Myers 1B Schimpf 3B Renfroe RF Cordoba LF Aybar SS Torrens C Cosart P

d'Kong76 May 24 2017 07:58 PM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

[tweet:1jge1haa]https://twitter.com/Mets/status/867469024426287104[/tweet:1jge1haa]

Edgy MD May 24 2017 08:10 PM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

Bruce to the bench still doesn't get Conforto in the three-hole.

Ceetar May 24 2017 08:21 PM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

Edgy MD wrote: Bruce to the bench still doesn't get Conforto in the three-hole. Much like last year, Terry loves those homers with no one on base.

Chad Ochoseis May 24 2017 08:36 PM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

Conforto has a .425 OBP to go with the home runs. Nobody else on the team comes close. I don't know what sabermetricians think of batting order (as far as I know, they don't know either), but it's not a slam dunk to me that we'd get more out of Conforto by putting him in the middle of the order and somebody with a .320 OBP in the leadoff spot.

seawolf17 May 24 2017 08:45 PM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

Chad Ochoseis wrote: Conforto has a .425 OBP to go with the home runs. Nobody else on the team comes close. I don't know what sabermetricians think of batting order (as far as I know, they don't know either), but it's not a slam dunk to me that we'd get more out of Conforto by putting him in the middle of the order and somebody with a .320 OBP in the leadoff spot. This. Leave him there.

Frayed Knot May 24 2017 08:50 PM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

Yeah, I think it's more about not having another great (or even good) option at leadoff than anything else. Reyes, even with his recent "resurgence" (finally off the interstate!!) is still OBA'ing under .300 and at least Terry isn't just falling back on Jose's 'lead-off-ed-ness' as his sole criteria. Grandy is at .166/.231 (BA/OBA); Lagares = .220/.304 Would Walker at #1 and Conforto 3rd make a difference as opposed to the other way around? Prolly not. Chad Ochoseis wrote: I don't know what sabermetricians think of batting order (as far as I know, they don't know either) ... They're pretty much of the opinion that, as long as you don't do something really stupid, the specific order doesn't matter a whole lot.

Ceetar May 24 2017 09:20 PM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

Frayed Knot wrote: Chad Ochoseis wrote: I don't know what sabermetricians think of batting order (as far as I know, they don't know either) ... They're pretty much of the opinion that, as long as you don't do something really stupid, the specific order doesn't matter a whole lot. The idea here is that the extra AB you get from Conforto's .420 OBP is negated by the much lower volume of runners on base by being leadoff. I don't have the numbers in front of me to say how many more, but it's gotta be good for a few more runs moving him down to second or third. Traded for simply having a few more total AB here and there and the difference between Conforto and Reyes every once in a while. This is why you put your best hitters second or third. You still want guys one for them.

Ashie62 May 24 2017 09:48 PM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

I'm sorry but Lagares just isn't that good. He had his career year on defense and can't steal first. I would take a couple pitchers for Lagares, promote Nimmo and be very satisfield.

Frayed Knot May 24 2017 11:34 PM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

d'Kong76 wrote: Maggot CF Solarte 2B Myers 1B Schimpf 3B Renfroe RF Cordoba LF Aybar SS Torrens C Cosart P Heh, heh ... Maggot Do you suppose that this Cordoba guy in LF has a glove made out of rich Corinthian leather?

Edgy MD May 25 2017 12:09 AM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

Andy Green is one baby-faced manager. Two on for our new #3 hitter Neil Walker.

Edgy MD May 25 2017 12:18 AM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

Hey, Pads. Cut the delay-of-game tactics and play some baseball.

Edgy MD May 25 2017 12:18 AM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

Delay that.

Edgy MD May 25 2017 12:22 AM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

Duda scoring from first on a double. Flores scoring from second on a single. #TeamSpeed

Edgy MD May 25 2017 12:37 AM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

A lot of hand spinners behind the plate tonight. Is this a Met tradition now?

Edgy MD May 25 2017 12:38 AM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

Con4titude. Unstoppable.

Lefty Specialist May 25 2017 12:40 AM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

En 4uego.

Ashie62 May 25 2017 01:08 AM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

Wilmer also. Asdrubal will get as much rest as he needs. Gsell steppin up.

Edgy MD May 25 2017 01:26 AM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

Two d'Arnauds have pinch-hit in this game. And unfortunately, Chase is the one with a hit.

Edgy MD May 25 2017 01:28 AM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

Chase wears the lower-case "d" also.

Edgy MD May 25 2017 01:31 AM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

Boo. Tying run on .

Edgy MD May 25 2017 01:32 AM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

Trivia answer: Bill Almon.

Edgy MD May 25 2017 01:35 AM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

Salas looked sharp initially. But he's gassed.

Fman99 May 25 2017 01:38 AM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

Damn this shoddy bullpenning.

Edgy MD May 25 2017 01:39 AM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

Sheesh. Longest single I've ever seen.

Lefty Specialist May 25 2017 01:40 AM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

Ramirez....not the answer.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 25 2017 01:42 AM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

2 outs, none on 0-2 count to that.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 25 2017 01:44 AM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 25 2017 01:45 AM

Should we be glad that he didn't walk in the runs, at least? "Like Vic Black, without the velo," shades Gary.

bmfc1 May 25 2017 01:44 AM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

Gsellman wasn't great but he was well under 100 pitches so why not leave him into start the next inning?

Edgy MD May 25 2017 01:45 AM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: 2 outs, none on 0-2 count to that. And then the tank emptied for Salas. Surprised Terry went to him on back-to-back nights after acknowledging he had over-used him in April. After that third batter, he looked like Cosart out there. Delaying the time between pitches trying to find enough juice to throw the next one.

Fman99 May 25 2017 01:47 AM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

Edgy MD wrote: A lot of hand spinners behind the plate tonight. Is this a Met tradition now? They are stupid. Just drink beer and watch the game. Is it really that hard?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 25 2017 01:48 AM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

Who said something recently about how unremarkable the all-blue Padres look? Was it you, JCL? They really do look like Generic Other Team During Montage in the baseball movie.

Edgy MD May 25 2017 01:58 AM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

Gosh, Generic Other Team's Generic Player hit that one hard.

Fman99 May 25 2017 01:59 AM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

Josh "Pole" Smoker not fooling anyone in this inning.

Ashie62 May 25 2017 02:02 AM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

We do have the chips to get a decent bullpen arm by trade. Rinse and repeat. Ronnie burying the bullpen management tonight. The season is not getting any younger.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 25 2017 02:02 AM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

Ronnie is being gentle, all things considered. Good thing we rushed to get to these relievers in the seventh.

Edgy MD May 25 2017 02:03 AM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

Ashie62 wrote: I'm sorry but Lagares just isn't that good. He had his career year on defense and can't steal first. Lagares is still happy to play some defense out there, and he stole first tonight on his way to second with a double.

Ashie62 May 25 2017 02:03 AM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

Fman99 wrote: Edgy MD wrote: A lot of hand spinners behind the plate tonight. Is this a Met tradition now? They are stupid. Just drink beer and watch the game. Is it really that hard? It was mandatory at Shea Stadium.

Ashie62 May 25 2017 02:05 AM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

Edgy MD wrote: Ashie62 wrote: I'm sorry but Lagares just isn't that good. He had his career year on defense and can't steal first. Lagares is still happy to play some defense out there, and he stole first tonight on his way to second with a double. Yeah, ya got me on that one. Trade value baby. Arms!

Edgy MD May 25 2017 02:05 AM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

Duda, that was your ball.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 25 2017 02:06 AM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

When it comes to defensive right-of-way, Duda bid-- defers.

Ashie62 May 25 2017 02:08 AM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

Lagares! Gold, pure gold.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 25 2017 02:08 AM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

#JohnnyNoLags

Ashie62 May 25 2017 02:10 AM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

[bigpurple:1pdrytyq]LGM![/bigpurple:1pdrytyq]

Ashie62 May 25 2017 02:11 AM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

Poop.

Ashie62 May 25 2017 02:11 AM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

[bigpurple:3j3k9b4i]LGM![/bigpurple:3j3k9b4i]

Ashie62 May 25 2017 02:12 AM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

Poop.

Edgy MD May 25 2017 02:13 AM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

Man, why would anybody throw José a strike right now?

Ashie62 May 25 2017 02:15 AM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

And on we go.

Ashie62 May 25 2017 02:17 AM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

It is hard to watch we be a very good Mets team with so many pieces shelved. Frustrating.

Ashie62 May 25 2017 02:17 AM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

Yes GARY, YES!!!

Lefty Specialist May 25 2017 02:21 AM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

The 2007 Mets bullpen seems to have taken up residence at Citi.

cooby May 25 2017 02:24 AM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 25 2017 02:24 AM

Score? And Ashie: from 10:10 to 10:12 thanks for the laff

Frayed Knot May 25 2017 02:24 AM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

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Frayed Knot May 25 2017 02:26 AM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 25 2017 02:26 AM

We keep getting leadoff guys on and then not scoring them. Gotta change that up here. They tied up the game after 2 outs, none on, and an 0-2 count.

cooby May 25 2017 02:26 AM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

Wasn't Curly a dentist in his free time?

Frayed Knot May 25 2017 02:28 AM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

Lucas gets a reprieve from the Governor. Just don't GiDP in front of Wilmer vs the lefty.

Edgy MD May 25 2017 02:28 AM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

That's why you bunt against the shift.

Edgy MD May 25 2017 02:30 AM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

Tying run at second. Matt Reynolds your new baserunner as the winning run at first.

Edgy MD May 25 2017 02:30 AM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

Andy Green is weird. Does he have a scouting report on the Mets?

Ashie62 May 25 2017 02:30 AM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

[bigpurple:a04xq7d4]LGM!!!![/bigpurple:a04xq7d4]

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 25 2017 02:31 AM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

Stew going. Light the fire, Wilma.

Frayed Knot May 25 2017 02:32 AM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

Edgy MD wrote: Andy Green is weird. Does he have a scouting report on the Mets? Either he has bad scouting reports or Mr. Hand doesn't know his history re: Wilmer vs LHPs

Edgy MD May 25 2017 02:32 AM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

INFIELD IN?!!

Edgy MD May 25 2017 02:33 AM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

Curtis, you gotta swing at that stuff.

Ashie62 May 25 2017 02:33 AM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

#@$%#!!!!!!

Fman99 May 25 2017 02:33 AM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

Man, lets hope Rene can at least get one to the OF.

Edgy MD May 25 2017 02:34 AM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

Yeah, that's what I was afraid of.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 25 2017 02:34 AM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

Fuck's sake, Grandy.

Ashie62 May 25 2017 02:35 AM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

[bigpurple:he97p4hx]SWING![/bigpurple:he97p4hx]

Fman99 May 25 2017 02:35 AM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

FUCKING HELL.

Ashie62 May 25 2017 02:35 AM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

[bigpurple:26unfjl7]#$%$#@!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/bigpurple:26unfjl7]

d'Kong76 May 25 2017 02:36 AM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

They hit into a DP here and I'm getting arrested.

Edgy MD May 25 2017 02:36 AM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

Smokes. Hand has them fooled with a single pitch.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 25 2017 02:37 AM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

Hell of a pitch, though.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 25 2017 02:38 AM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

Jesus

Fman99 May 25 2017 02:38 AM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

The Mets lost. It sucked ass.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 25 2017 02:38 AM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

Nice to have a bullpen, I bet.

Ashie62 May 25 2017 02:39 AM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

AAAAGH That was brutal.

Frayed Knot May 25 2017 02:39 AM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

THAT was a bad loss.

Edgy MD May 25 2017 02:40 AM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

Blurgh. Granderson, man.

Ashie62 May 25 2017 02:40 AM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 25 2017 02:40 AM

Terrrry... splain.

d'Kong76 May 25 2017 02:40 AM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

Lefty Specialist May 25 2017 12:17 PM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

That one was hard to stomach. I don't care if Granderson is Mother Theresa in real life; I just can't stand to watch him any more. Lagares has more to offer, and when Cespedes gets back I want Curtis buried so deep on the bench he can't be found.

Edgy MD May 25 2017 01:05 PM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

And Nimmo. He's getting all the sucking out of his system in Vegas.

Benjamin Grimm May 25 2017 01:43 PM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

Cast your vote!

seawolf17 May 25 2017 02:08 PM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

I gave up on this game in the seventh because it was firmly in hand. I'm stunned they screwed it up. (And yet, not stunned at all.)

Edgy MD May 25 2017 02:37 PM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

That's no way to earn your Schaefer, man.

seawolf17 May 25 2017 02:43 PM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

Edgy MD wrote: That's no way to earn your Schaefer, man. Good thing I'm the worst Schaefer voter ever. I feel like I don't watch enough innings to be a qualified voter.

Benjamin Grimm Jun 14 2017 02:12 PM Re: IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to