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IGT 6/7/2017: NYM@TEX, Wheeler@Darvish

Edgy MD Jun 07 2017 03:26 PM

Starting the year as the Mets #5 pitcher, and the one most likely to get babied, Zack Wheeler is suddenly the Mets most reliable starter, in relative terms. Rebuilt Persian Japanese hurler Yu Darvish slings for the Rangers. He last faced the Mets July 4, 2014 at Citi Field, giving up four runs in five innings and being unable to do anything with Lucas Duda. Scorecard below. Look for José Reyes to escape from the bench, for a day anyhow, possibly playing short and giving a day off to Cabrera, possibly playing third and pushing Flores to DH. [fimg=750:3c31s9zd]http://ultimatemets.com/scorecard_graph.php?game=8452&font=1[/fimg:3c31s9zd]

d'Kong76 Jun 07 2017 07:54 PM Re: IGT 6/7/2017: NYM@TEX, Wheeler@Darvish

DeShields LF Choo DH Andrus SS Mazara RF Chirinos C Odor 2B Rua 1B Gallo 3B Hoying CF Darvish P

d'Kong76 Jun 07 2017 08:35 PM Re: IGT 6/7/2017: NYM@TEX, Wheeler@Darvish

Conforto LF Cabrera SS Bruce DH Duda 1B Flores 2B Granderson RF Reyes 3B d'Arnaud C Lagares CF Wheeler P

Edgy MD Jun 07 2017 08:37 PM Re: IGT 6/7/2017: NYM@TEX, Wheeler@Darvish

Well, I called that Reyes return, but I'm surprised to see Flores sitting instead of Cabrera or Granderson. But I'm surprised every time I see Granderson.

d'Kong76 Jun 07 2017 09:12 PM Re: IGT 6/7/2017: NYM@TEX, Wheeler@Darvish

Flores isn't sitting, unless I posted the wrong lineup.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 07 2017 09:17 PM Re: IGT 6/7/2017: NYM@TEX, Wheeler@Darvish

Walker's sitting, hopefully as a result of that steamy dump of an at-bat last night where we had 1st and 3rd, 1 out, and he popped out to Beltre. Cleanup hitter my ass.

Ashie62 Jun 07 2017 09:19 PM Re: IGT 6/7/2017: NYM@TEX, Wheeler@Darvish

A Wheeling Darvish.

Edgy MD Jun 07 2017 10:01 PM Re: IGT 6/7/2017: NYM@TEX, Wheeler@Darvish

Sorry, I looked for Florry at third, and didn't see him there and jumped to a conclusion. Only his fourth start of the season at second, and I'd guess his first since Walker came off the DL.

Rockin' Doc Jun 08 2017 12:28 AM Re: IGT 6/7/2017: NYM@TEX, Wheeler@Darvish

Speaking of a big steaming dump, that's what Wheeler appears to be taking on the mound right now.

Rockin' Doc Jun 08 2017 12:31 AM Re: IGT 6/7/2017: NYM@TEX, Wheeler@Darvish

Wheeler gets the ground ball he needs, but Mazara beats the relay throw at first by quite a bit. Called out, but that will never stand up to review.

Rockin' Doc Jun 08 2017 12:34 AM Re: IGT 6/7/2017: NYM@TEX, Wheeler@Darvish

Wheeler gets a second ground ball, this time the double play is completed. So nice job by Wheeler limiting the Rangers to only 1 run after the bases being leaded with no outs. Could be big in this game.

Frayed Knot Jun 08 2017 12:35 AM Re: IGT 6/7/2017: NYM@TEX, Wheeler@Darvish

What's the average number of pitches thrown by Met starters in the 1st innings of games this year? Thirty? Thirty-Five? Forty? Wheeler gets away with "only" 27 in bottom one, but that's only because he got three outs on his final two pitches in that frame.

cooby Jun 08 2017 12:50 AM Re: IGT 6/7/2017: NYM@TEX, Wheeler@Darvish

According to my calculations the average is 89 pitches in the first inning.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 08 2017 12:53 AM Re: IGT 6/7/2017: NYM@TEX, Wheeler@Darvish

Looks good to get perfect-gamed tonight

MFS62 Jun 08 2017 01:03 AM Re: IGT 6/7/2017: NYM@TEX, Wheeler@Darvish

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Looks good to get perfect-gamed tonight My unofficial over/under on the number of hits the Mets will get tonight is 1 1/2. Later

seawolf17 Jun 08 2017 01:07 AM Re: IGT 6/7/2017: NYM@TEX, Wheeler@Darvish

MFS62 wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Looks good to get perfect-gamed tonight My unofficial over/under on the number of hits the Mets will get tonight is 1 1/2. Later Take the under.

MFS62 Jun 08 2017 01:12 AM Re: IGT 6/7/2017: NYM@TEX, Wheeler@Darvish

Still only one hit, but it was a good one - a Brucekaboom. Later

Frayed Knot Jun 08 2017 01:31 AM Re: IGT 6/7/2017: NYM@TEX, Wheeler@Darvish

Wheeler is actually down to almost a normal pitch count despite that long first inning. 2nd, 3rd, and 4th have gone much quicker for him.

Fman99 Jun 08 2017 01:36 AM Re: IGT 6/7/2017: NYM@TEX, Wheeler@Darvish

This is going better, so far. Better also than Fboy's Little League game, which got called 14-0 after 4 innings due to the mercy rule. Yeesh.

Frayed Knot Jun 08 2017 01:40 AM Re: IGT 6/7/2017: NYM@TEX, Wheeler@Darvish

So Nolan has a statue* outside of the stadium down there even though his tenure as a Ranger was far less than his was as either an Angel or Astro and only slightly longer than as a Met. G/IP Angels = 291 / 2,181 G/IP Astros = 282 / 1,855 ------------------------------ G/IP Rangers = 129 / 840 G/IP Mets = 105 / 510 * I hope it's not anchored to the ground seeing as how they'll have to pick it up and haul it over to the new place in a couple of years

Rockin' Doc Jun 08 2017 01:48 AM Re: IGT 6/7/2017: NYM@TEX, Wheeler@Darvish

Nice 4-6-3 DP to end the inning. Cabrerra got away with the neighborhood play as DeShields was baring down on him.

Rockin' Doc Jun 08 2017 01:55 AM Re: IGT 6/7/2017: NYM@TEX, Wheeler@Darvish

Jay "Love Me Two Times" Bruce. Goes Kaboom again.

Frayed Knot Jun 08 2017 01:55 AM Re: IGT 6/7/2017: NYM@TEX, Wheeler@Darvish

Rockin' Doc wrote: Nice 4-6-3 DP to end the inning. Cabrerra got away with the neighborhood play as DeShields was baring down on him. He was probably still on the base because every force play at 2nd gets challenged these days even if the fielder is off by fractions of an inch. Meanwhile, another one by Jay Bruise

Rockin' Doc Jun 08 2017 02:01 AM Re: IGT 6/7/2017: NYM@TEX, Wheeler@Darvish

Remember when the Mets spent most of the offseason shopping Jay Bruce and couldn't find any takers? I think he will be far more marketable going into the trade deadline this season. Jay has been one of the few bright spots for the Mets this season.

Frayed Knot Jun 08 2017 02:10 AM Re: IGT 6/7/2017: NYM@TEX, Wheeler@Darvish

Wheeler now at a pitch count that's lower than the average through six innings. Would love to see him get through at least the seventh and better the odds of our nightly game of bullpen roulette.

Rockin' Doc Jun 08 2017 02:14 AM Re: IGT 6/7/2017: NYM@TEX, Wheeler@Darvish

Wheelr started out pretty shaky, but he was able to get the ground ball when he needed it. He has been solid and is amazingly only only at 85 pitchers through 6 innings. If all goes well, he should be able to get the Mets through the 7th (or dare to dream) possibly the 8th.

Benjamin Grimm Jun 08 2017 02:26 AM Re: IGT 6/7/2017: NYM@TEX, Wheeler@Darvish

Delino DeShields???

Frayed Knot Jun 08 2017 02:28 AM Re: IGT 6/7/2017: NYM@TEX, Wheeler@Darvish Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Jun 08 2017 02:31 AM

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Delino DeShields??? That would be DD Jr. iow, you've not gone through a time warp. Papa De last played in 2002 Golf Clap for Mr Wheeler. I think that's probably it for him tonight.

metirish Jun 08 2017 02:28 AM Re: IGT 6/7/2017: NYM@TEX, Wheeler@Darvish

Liking this from Wheeler , kind of liking the dulcet tones of Scott Braun too.....

metirish Jun 08 2017 02:32 AM Re: IGT 6/7/2017: NYM@TEX, Wheeler@Darvish

Gelbs with a 2 foot long hot dog thing , using a knife and fork to eat it .....Ron takes the piss out of hin for that

Frayed Knot Jun 08 2017 02:46 AM Re: IGT 6/7/2017: NYM@TEX, Wheeler@Darvish

In Blevins I trust.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 08 2017 02:51 AM Re: IGT 6/7/2017: NYM@TEX, Wheeler@Darvish

oh ffs

metirish Jun 08 2017 02:51 AM Re: IGT 6/7/2017: NYM@TEX, Wheeler@Darvish

Absolute fuck , 2 run HR

d'Kong76 Jun 08 2017 02:52 AM Re: IGT 6/7/2017: NYM@TEX, Wheeler@Darvish

I knew I shoulda went to bed...

Rockin' Doc Jun 08 2017 02:52 AM Re: IGT 6/7/2017: NYM@TEX, Wheeler@Darvish

The Bullpen strikes again. Wheeler deserved better.

Chad Ochoseis Jun 08 2017 02:52 AM Re: IGT 6/7/2017: NYM@TEX, Wheeler@Darvish

If you guys back east heard someone yelling "FUCK" just now, that was me. Et tu, Jerry?

41Forever Jun 08 2017 02:53 AM Re: IGT 6/7/2017: NYM@TEX, Wheeler@Darvish

Dammit. This team just gives away wins.

Frayed Knot Jun 08 2017 02:53 AM Re: IGT 6/7/2017: NYM@TEX, Wheeler@Darvish

Unbelievable!! Blevins was one pitch away from a 1-2-3 seven-pitch inning after he got 0-2 on Mazara, but he never got the third strike.

Frayed Knot Jun 08 2017 02:54 AM Re: IGT 6/7/2017: NYM@TEX, Wheeler@Darvish

Y'know what else strikes again ... the curse of the backup catcher!! If I get ambitious over the next few days I'm going to start counting up how many HRs this staff has served up to backup backstops this year.

Frayed Knot Jun 08 2017 03:00 AM Re: IGT 6/7/2017: NYM@TEX, Wheeler@Darvish

Run for Lucas? Terry says Yes!

Rockin' Doc Jun 08 2017 03:06 AM Re: IGT 6/7/2017: NYM@TEX, Wheeler@Darvish

Can Reyes come through with a 2 pout hit with RISP?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 08 2017 03:07 AM Re: IGT 6/7/2017: NYM@TEX, Wheeler@Darvish

Oh eow

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 08 2017 03:09 AM Re: IGT 6/7/2017: NYM@TEX, Wheeler@Darvish

Noivus

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 08 2017 03:09 AM Re: IGT 6/7/2017: NYM@TEX, Wheeler@Darvish

Safe!

Frayed Knot Jun 08 2017 03:10 AM Re: IGT 6/7/2017: NYM@TEX, Wheeler@Darvish

Never had it Andrus. If this is over-turned on review I want it appealed to the World Court in The Hague. Now let's have d'Arnaud knock the prison tattoos off this guy for some insurance runs.

Chad Ochoseis Jun 08 2017 03:10 AM Re: IGT 6/7/2017: NYM@TEX, Wheeler@Darvish

Frayed Knot wrote: Run for Lucas? Terry says Yes! And I was going to say no. We might need a deep bench tonight. But it turned out to be the right move.

Frayed Knot Jun 08 2017 03:11 AM Re: IGT 6/7/2017: NYM@TEX, Wheeler@Darvish

Chad Ochoseis wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: Run for Lucas? Terry says Yes! And I was going to say no. So was I.

Rockin' Doc Jun 08 2017 03:11 AM Re: IGT 6/7/2017: NYM@TEX, Wheeler@Darvish

Reyes with a soft grounder up the middle. Odor fields it and spikes the throw in the dirt and Andrus can't handle it cleanly. Reynolds scores to give Mets the lead.

Rockin' Doc Jun 08 2017 03:17 AM Re: IGT 6/7/2017: NYM@TEX, Wheeler@Darvish

the Mets are 3 outs away from a a nice win. Come on Reed.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 08 2017 03:19 AM Re: IGT 6/7/2017: NYM@TEX, Wheeler@Darvish

Books.

Frayed Knot Jun 08 2017 03:20 AM Re: IGT 6/7/2017: NYM@TEX, Wheeler@Darvish

Reynolds was so deep against Gallo that he practically needed a relay man for that 4-3 put-out.

Edgy MD Jun 08 2017 03:21 AM Re: IGT 6/7/2017: NYM@TEX, Wheeler@Darvish

Mets win a game with four hits, a night after losing a game despite a million of 'em. Let's turn this ship around.

themetfairy Jun 08 2017 03:21 AM Re: IGT 6/7/2017: NYM@TEX, Wheeler@Darvish

Frayed Knot Jun 08 2017 03:23 AM Re: IGT 6/7/2017: NYM@TEX, Wheeler@Darvish

And Jerry Blevins vultures the win.

Benjamin Grimm Jun 08 2017 01:14 PM Re: IGT 6/7/2017: NYM@TEX, Wheeler@Darvish

Frayed Knot wrote: And Jerry Blevins vultures the win. I think the official scorer should have the discretion to give the win to Wheeler in a game like this. I know that there's the "brief-and-ineffective" rule, but you rarely see it, and when it does get invoked, the win seems to always go to the pitcher who came after Mr. Brief-And-Ineffective, and not to the one who preceded him. Anyway... Cast your vote!

Frayed Knot Jun 08 2017 01:22 PM Re: IGT 6/7/2017: NYM@TEX, Wheeler@Darvish

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: And Jerry Blevins vultures the win. I think the official scorer should have the discretion to give the win to Wheeler in a game like this. I know that there's the "brief-and-ineffective" rule, but you rarely see it, and when it does get invoked, the win seems to always go to the pitcher who came after Mr. Brief-And-Ineffective, and not to the one who preceded him. Yes, I think that's right. There's no precedence for retroactively assigning the win to a guy who wasn't in the game at any point during or after the lead was grabbed for good. So that leaves only Reed but, since you can't get a win and a save in the same game, the 'W' goes to Mr. Vulture du jour.

Benjamin Grimm Jul 02 2017 01:27 PM Re: IGT 6/7/2017: NYM@TEX, Wheeler@Darvish