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IGT 6/11/17: NYM@ATL -- Seth, What Can He Do?

G-Fafif Jun 11 2017 01:55 AM

Seth Lugo makes his first start of 2017. The Mets make Jaime Garcia sorry he came to the ballpark. 1:35 PM on WPIX. Don't peer into the dugout for T.J. Rivera, Tyler Pill or Matt Reynolds. All have been optioned in the name of healthy bodies.

Frayed Knot Jun 11 2017 11:37 AM Re: IGT 6/11/17: NYM@ATL -- Seth, What Can He Do?

Hopefully he got his rest as he and the boys were playing all night on Saturday.

MFS62 Jun 11 2017 01:28 PM Re: IGT 6/11/17: NYM@ATL -- Seth, What Can He Do?

G-Fafif wrote: Don't peer into the dugout for T.J. Rivera, Tyler Pill or Matt Reynolds. All have been optioned in the name of healthy bodies. T.J.?? WTF?? Later

Chad Ochoseis Jun 11 2017 02:10 PM Re: IGT 6/11/17: NYM@ATL -- Seth, What Can He Do?

That was my first thought, too. But there really isn't any other position player to move, unless you feel ready to DFA Reyes. I'm not sure I'm there yet. The head scratcher to me was optioning Pill rather than Neil "The Human Torch" Ramirez.

G-Fafif Jun 11 2017 02:52 PM Re: IGT 6/11/17: NYM@ATL -- Seth, What Can He Do?

Michael Conforto – LF Juan Lagares – CF Wilmer Flores – 1B Jay Bruce – RF Neil Walker – 2B Asdrúbal Cabrera – SS René Rivera – C José Reyes – 3B Seth Lugo - RHP

Edgy MD Jun 11 2017 03:45 PM Re: IGT 6/11/17: NYM@ATL -- Seth, What Can He Do?

The lefty knocks both a hot Granderson and a slumping Duda out of the lineup. Remember, after the recent transactions, the Mets are down to five infielders, and the two regular middle infielders are balky.

G-Fafif Jun 11 2017 04:15 PM Re: IGT 6/11/17: NYM@ATL -- Seth, What Can He Do?

Bad people who must be stopped... Inciarte CF Phillips 2B Markakis RF Kemp LF Adams 1B Flowers C Camargo 3B Swanson SS Garcia P

41Forever Jun 11 2017 04:24 PM Re: IGT 6/11/17: NYM@ATL -- Seth, What Can He Do?

Frayed Knot wrote: Hopefully he got his rest as he and the boys were playing all night on Saturday. Nice!

Frayed Knot Jun 11 2017 05:10 PM Re: IGT 6/11/17: NYM@ATL -- Seth, What Can He Do?

Just going with the theme.

Edgy MD Jun 11 2017 06:35 PM Re: IGT 6/11/17: NYM@ATL -- Seth, What Can He Do?

I'm OK with the bunt here, but not after the corners come in.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 11 2017 06:48 PM Re: IGT 6/11/17: NYM@ATL -- Seth, What Can He Do?

2nd and 3rd, nobody out. Three outs, nobody in. I'm sure that won't haunt us in this one-run game.

Edgy MD Jun 11 2017 07:09 PM Re: IGT 6/11/17: NYM@ATL -- Seth, What Can He Do?

We weren't very rispy in the next inning either.

Edgy MD Jun 11 2017 07:14 PM Re: IGT 6/11/17: NYM@ATL -- Seth, What Can He Do?

Not only do the right field seats seem to have some weird stainless steal fronts, but one of the aisles seems to be blocked off by a pair of Beverly Hillbillies planks nailed in place.

Edgy MD Jun 11 2017 07:21 PM Re: IGT 6/11/17: NYM@ATL -- Seth, What Can He Do?

Challenge that!

Edgy MD Jun 11 2017 07:22 PM Re: IGT 6/11/17: NYM@ATL -- Seth, What Can He Do?

WOW!!

Frayed Knot Jun 11 2017 07:24 PM Re: IGT 6/11/17: NYM@ATL -- Seth, What Can He Do?

[fimg=400]http://www.csnchicago.com/sites/csnchicago/files/styles/article_hero_image/public/2016/04/12/hawk-harrelson-0524.png?itok=a0dV8Rhi[/fimg] You can take it off the boooooooard ... Yes!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 11 2017 07:30 PM Re: IGT 6/11/17: NYM@ATL -- Seth, What Can He Do?

Nicely turned. Nice stretch from Wilma, too. Is it me, or is Senor Flowers' D (at first, anyway) improving of late along with the bat?

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 11 2017 07:37 PM Re: IGT 6/11/17: NYM@ATL -- Seth, What Can He Do?

Quick Lugosian work in the sixth. More to come in the seventh?

Edgy MD Jun 11 2017 07:41 PM Re: IGT 6/11/17: NYM@ATL -- Seth, What Can He Do?

Reyes should be running with Garcia throwing all those curves to the bunting pitcher.

Edgy MD Jun 11 2017 07:41 PM Re: IGT 6/11/17: NYM@ATL -- Seth, What Can He Do?

My keys to his ears!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 11 2017 07:42 PM Re: IGT 6/11/17: NYM@ATL -- Seth, What Can He Do?

On base twice in three PAs and a steal... a pretty happy birthday for JoseJoseJose thus far.

Edgy MD Jun 11 2017 07:44 PM Re: IGT 6/11/17: NYM@ATL -- Seth, What Can He Do?

Lugo's out, guys.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 11 2017 07:44 PM Re: IGT 6/11/17: NYM@ATL -- Seth, What Can He Do?

I mean, still a terrible play by Camargo. But yeah.

Edgy MD Jun 11 2017 07:46 PM Re: IGT 6/11/17: NYM@ATL -- Seth, What Can He Do?

Um, José's out, guys. Crud.

Edgy MD Jun 11 2017 07:48 PM Re: IGT 6/11/17: NYM@ATL -- Seth, What Can He Do?

This guy may be a tenor, but that's a baritone delivery.

Lefty Specialist Jun 11 2017 07:57 PM Re: IGT 6/11/17: NYM@ATL -- Seth, What Can He Do?

So a 6 man rotation is dumb, but if you were to take somebody out of the rotation right now, it'd either be deGrom or Harvey.

Edgy MD Jun 11 2017 07:57 PM Re: IGT 6/11/17: NYM@ATL -- Seth, What Can He Do?

Edgy MD wrote: Not only do the right field seats seem to have some weird stainless steal fronts, but one of the aisles seems to be blocked off by a pair of Beverly Hillbillies planks nailed in place. I mean, what kind of operation are they running here?

Frayed Knot Jun 11 2017 07:59 PM Re: IGT 6/11/17: NYM@ATL -- Seth, What Can He Do?

Someone obviously failed to tell these new guys -- Matz & Lugo -- that 90 pitches is the proper amount for four innings, not seven. I'm willing to let them slide for now but pitch count efficiency is not something we're going to continue to tolerate around here.

Edgy MD Jun 11 2017 08:08 PM Re: IGT 6/11/17: NYM@ATL -- Seth, What Can He Do?

Great to see Blevvy retiring Kemp. My faith wasn't strong.

Edgy MD Jun 11 2017 08:11 PM Re: IGT 6/11/17: NYM@ATL -- Seth, What Can He Do?

You've been Blevved. We all have.

Edgy MD Jun 11 2017 08:15 PM Re: IGT 6/11/17: NYM@ATL -- Seth, What Can He Do?

Curious if we can get a Céspedes pinch-hit experience this inning.

Edgy MD Jun 11 2017 08:18 PM Re: IGT 6/11/17: NYM@ATL -- Seth, What Can He Do?

Gary uses "I can't imagine" a lot.

Edgy MD Jun 11 2017 08:24 PM Re: IGT 6/11/17: NYM@ATL -- Seth, What Can He Do?

I'd use Duda against the fastballer, but Grandy is hot and Dudie not.

41Forever Jun 11 2017 08:25 PM Re: IGT 6/11/17: NYM@ATL -- Seth, What Can He Do?

Don't think Curtis planned it that way, but I'll take it!

Edgy MD Jun 11 2017 08:26 PM Re: IGT 6/11/17: NYM@ATL -- Seth, What Can He Do?

Holy smokes! Céspedes for Conforto!

d'Kong76 Jun 11 2017 08:27 PM Re: IGT 6/11/17: NYM@ATL -- Seth, What Can He Do?

Don't like batting for Conforto here, not one bit...

Nymr83 Jun 11 2017 08:30 PM Re: IGT 6/11/17: NYM@ATL -- Seth, What Can He Do?

d'Kong76 wrote: Don't like batting for Conforto here, not one bit... i hate it. i know Cespedes is our "best hitter" but Conforto is #2 and isn't coming off a recent long-term DL trip. if Cespedes is available to hit this inning, he should have hit for Rivera with 1st and 2nd nobody out.

Frayed Knot Jun 11 2017 08:31 PM Re: IGT 6/11/17: NYM@ATL -- Seth, What Can He Do?

Wouldn't have done it either. Yeah you increase your chances of a GS, but that's not what you need there.

Lefty Specialist Jun 11 2017 08:33 PM Re: IGT 6/11/17: NYM@ATL -- Seth, What Can He Do?

Yeah , I hope pinch hitting for Conforto doesn't come back to bite them.

Edgy MD Jun 11 2017 08:33 PM Re: IGT 6/11/17: NYM@ATL -- Seth, What Can He Do?

I don't know man. It was the last call of the game. And the gap between #1 and #2 widens when the Braves were deploying a pitcher created in a secret government lab for the express purpose of retiring Conforto. And the Mets already put Grandy in the game, so there's no problem replacing Conforto. A justifiable move.

Edgy MD Jun 11 2017 08:35 PM Re: IGT 6/11/17: NYM@ATL -- Seth, What Can He Do?

I mean, who do you think Krol wanted to face?

Frayed Knot Jun 11 2017 08:35 PM Re: IGT 6/11/17: NYM@ATL -- Seth, What Can He Do?

As long as the tying run doesn't score on account of Grandy's (lack of) arm.

Frayed Knot Jun 11 2017 08:37 PM Re: IGT 6/11/17: NYM@ATL -- Seth, What Can He Do?

Or we can just have Addison take care of it on [crossout:hc1ep3yb]10[/crossout:hc1ep3yb] [crossout:hc1ep3yb]11[/crossout:hc1ep3yb] [crossout:hc1ep3yb]12[/crossout:hc1ep3yb] 13 pitches and go home.

themetfairy Jun 11 2017 08:37 PM Re: IGT 6/11/17: NYM@ATL -- Seth, What Can He Do?

Edgy MD Jun 11 2017 08:38 PM Re: IGT 6/11/17: NYM@ATL -- Seth, What Can He Do?

Brilliant, gentlemen. THAT'S pitching.

MFS62 Jun 11 2017 08:42 PM Re: IGT 6/11/17: NYM@ATL -- Seth, What Can He Do?

They are a whole better team to face when Freddy F'n Freeman isn't in their lineup. And I don't miss him a bit! Later

Lefty Specialist Jun 11 2017 09:07 PM Re: IGT 6/11/17: NYM@ATL -- Seth, What Can He Do?

Yeah, it's kind of important to remember that this isn't exactly an offensive juggernaut out there, especially without FFF. Let's see if this continues against the Cubs and Nats.

d'Kong76 Jun 11 2017 09:34 PM Re: IGT 6/11/17: NYM@ATL -- Seth, What Can He Do?

Didn't matter in the end, but the pinch hitting sends the wrong message in my mind. Hopefully Conforto doesn't think like me.

Nymr83 Jun 12 2017 12:53 AM Re: IGT 6/11/17: NYM@ATL -- Seth, What Can He Do?

d'Kong76 wrote: Didn't matter in the end, but the pinch hitting sends the wrong message in my mind. Hopefully Conforto doesn't think like me. the wrong message to Conforto ("we think you still can't hit lefties even though you have a .378 OBP against them this year") is its own separate issue. my issue is that there were far inferior hitters that you cold have pinch hit for earlier in the inning.

d'Kong76 Jun 12 2017 02:18 AM Re: IGT 6/11/17: NYM@ATL -- Seth, What Can He Do?

Our burgeoning all-star stud shouldn't be pulled for anyone is my issue. I have far fewer managing issues with Collins as many but I think it was a bad message. We'll see. I'd like to think Michael shouldn't be looking over his shoulder to see if Skip is gonna pass on him at this point.

Lefty Specialist Jun 12 2017 02:23 AM Re: IGT 6/11/17: NYM@ATL -- Seth, What Can He Do?

In the moment I thought it was a bad move, but I think it'll be rarely repeated. Cespedes will be playing more and there won't be many PH appearances. And Conforto will be playing every day. More likely will be Conforto moving to left late in the game and Lagares coming in for defense in CF.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 12 2017 03:54 AM Re: IGT 6/11/17: NYM@ATL -- Seth, What Can He Do?

Ces for Conforto was weird, all the more so because a gimpy Ces or Grandy or pretty much anyone the Met bench has to offer at that point represents a pretty significant defensive downgrade in left, in what could still be a one-run game. Gave them-- arguably-- a better shot to put it away, but gave them significantly less cover if the gamble worked out suboptimally (which, given the odds of, y'know, baseball, was the way it was always more likely to turn out). Ended up okay, but, yeah, while it's not the most indefensible late-inning thing Terry has okayed in the last month, it probably wasn't advisable.

Fman99 Jun 12 2017 11:45 AM Re: IGT 6/11/17: NYM@ATL -- Seth, What Can He Do?

We were listening on XM while driving home, but, I mean, he went super yard on a ball the day before with the bases loaded in the 9th. I didn't have a problem with him coming in against a lefty to try the same thing a second day in a row.

Benjamin Grimm Jun 12 2017 01:18 PM Re: IGT 6/11/17: NYM@ATL -- Seth, What Can He Do?

Cast your vote!

Edgy MD Jun 12 2017 02:07 PM Re: IGT 6/11/17: NYM@ATL -- Seth, What Can He Do?

Considering this came followed an encouraging doubleheader sweep and fell on a Sunday, this victory may be one of the topsiest of the year. It's certainly rare to see the 2017 Mets come out of a weekend on anything like an upswing.

Centerfield Jun 12 2017 03:08 PM Re: IGT 6/11/17: NYM@ATL -- Seth, What Can He Do?

Edgy MD wrote: Considering this came followed an encouraging doubleheader sweep and fell on a Sunday, this victory may be one of the topsiest of the year. It's certainly rare to see the 2017 Mets come out of a weekend on anything like an upswing. Right? Sundays are usually reserved for losing by 2 touchdowns and suffering a demoralizing injury.

Benjamin Grimm Jul 02 2017 01:31 PM Re: IGT 6/11/17: NYM@ATL -- Seth, What Can He Do?