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Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft)
John Cougar Lunchbucket May 12 2017 06:29 PM |
Amatuer draft starts 1 month from today and "mock drafts" out there suggest the Mets are romantically linked to Minnesota high school righty Sam Carlson, described as a "broad-bodied workhorse."
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Edgy MD May 12 2017 06:35 PM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
Warmoth
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Frayed Knot May 12 2017 07:38 PM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
Mets draft 20th, 59th, 97th, and then every 30th pick after that.
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Edgy MD May 12 2017 07:42 PM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
Well, one thing that's surely in the scouting report is high school pitchers are high-risk players.
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Frayed Knot May 12 2017 07:50 PM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
A HS righty has never gone #1 overall (Josh Beckett = #2) but that may change this year with Hunter Greene, a slugging SS who also throws 102
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John Cougar Lunchbucket May 18 2017 01:52 PM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
John Sickels new mock draft also has the Mets going with Minnesota high school righty Sam Carlson
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 18 2017 02:02 PM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
Gimme gimme gimme the best available honkballer.
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Benjamin Grimm May 18 2017 02:06 PM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
I just looked it up. The team's name is officially "Anteaters".
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Benjamin Grimm May 18 2017 02:07 PM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
Also, that logo looks more like ICU than UCI. The "I" is clearly stacked on top, which implies (to me, at least) that that's the first letter I should be reading.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket May 18 2017 02:38 PM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
Indiana Christian U is suing them
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Frayed Knot May 18 2017 03:12 PM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
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That trend -- giving your team's nickname a nickname and slapping it on your uniform (your uni if you will) -- is one that's been developing for years now. I suspect it's from copying oh-too-hip ESPN sportscasters who use names like that constantly as if doing so makes them seem intimately familiar with the team. The NHL's Colorado Avalanche getting dubbed 'The Lanche' was an early example. Fortunately the Expos never saw fit to stitch 'Spos across their chest and even the ever-experimenting Astros never reverted to 'Stros. It also at times extends to proper names as fans of 'Nova' and 'Cuse' (Villanova, Syracuse) could tell you. Lately it's become ultra-trendy to call the city of Cleveland simply 'The Land' as if the back half of the city name is enough to identify it. Not sure how Portland and Oakland feel about that, but it's their fault they're not cool enough to have LeBron James.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket May 18 2017 03:14 PM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
Well we did see the D'BACKS this week. BTW, I hated their Game 1 and 3 get-ups but the blue-trimmed ones for the middle game seemed to me a nice-looking way to do modern and overdone.
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Frayed Knot May 18 2017 03:21 PM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
I guess that was the one where Gary and Keith were discussing whether it was teal or turquoise.
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Edgy MD May 18 2017 03:26 PM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
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The compound-nickname thing may be a latter-day trend in some circles but it has long history in the NBA where teams with polysyllabic names created desperate challenges for uniform designers and headline editors alike, so teams like the Knickerbockers, Seventy-Sixers, Trailblazers, and Supersonics, were the Knicks, Sixers, Blazers, and Sonics pretty much from the start.
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Benjamin Grimm May 18 2017 03:59 PM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
It probably goes all the way back to the Philadelphia Athletics being called the A's, if not further.
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seawolf17 May 18 2017 04:00 PM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
Seawolf Toby Handley leads the nation in triples with 8 and has a .351/.484/.619 slash line. Was drafted by Houston in the 33rd round last year but didn't sign. Have to figure he gets the call from someone in the middle rounds this year.
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Frayed Knot Jun 08 2017 04:25 PM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
Baseball Prospectus ranks their draft prediction by most interesting name.
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Edgy MD Jun 08 2017 04:56 PM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
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That's weird, I thought. I wonder what that's about. And so I looked it up, and you know what? It's all bad.
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Benjamin Grimm Jun 08 2017 05:03 PM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
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The article also describes him as an "ace left-hander who statistically is the nation's best pitcher and is among the top prospects in next week's Major League Baseball draft." I imagine this has to affect the draft, but how? If he's as talented as the article implies, would all 30 teams pass on him round after round? It's hard to believe that he won't get drafted. But that's a PR nightmare.
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Chad Ochoseis Jun 08 2017 07:15 PM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
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The Metropolitans, on the other hand...
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 08 2017 07:39 PM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
More recent MLB.com Fake News Draft has Mets taking a different RHP, Nate Pearson of Central Florida Junior College who "pounds the zone" with 97mph fastballs, if you know what I mean.
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Frayed Knot Jun 08 2017 07:43 PM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
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Yeah but at least no one (to my knowledge anyway) has ever attempted to dub them the 'tans and even the Wilpons haven't dreamt up putting that on a uniform.
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Benjamin Grimm Jun 08 2017 07:46 PM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
BECAUSE THEY'RE TOO CHEAP!
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Frayed Knot Jun 09 2017 12:54 PM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 09 2017 02:06 PM |
Jim Callis (mlb.com) in his latest (last?) 1st round mock draft throws out the possibility of a rarity among 1st pick projections: a HS 1st baseman. But, of course, that wouldn't be a novelty for the Mets (see: Smith, Dominic)
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 09 2017 12:59 PM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
Sure can eat, though.
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Edgy MD Jun 12 2017 03:17 PM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
Draft projections fall apart pretty quickly, but a small amount of consensus seems to be building around Pearson. He says he isn't surprised that he hit three digits in a bullpen for scouts, that it was always there, but he doesn't unleash it, because he's a starter and he's trying to preserve his strength.
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Frayed Knot Jun 12 2017 03:40 PM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
An index of players likely to be drafted early on from John Sickels' site.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 12 2017 04:09 PM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
Two more Fake Drafts have us going with LSU Righty Alex Lange (Keith Law); or high-school lefty [crossout:cn8bbq4g]Steve J.[/crossout:cn8bbq4g] Trevor Rogers (Baseball America)
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Edgy MD Jun 12 2017 04:15 PM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
Rogers, a cross between Steve Trevor and Steve Rogers, had been mostly scheduled to go between 10 and 14 to my reading.
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Frayed Knot Jun 12 2017 11:50 PM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
#1 - Twins - Royce Lewis - HS SS
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Edgy MD Jun 12 2017 11:59 PM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
McKenzie Gore, teenage girl pop singer of the sixties, singing her hit sensation, "Did You Have to Date My Sister?"
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Frayed Knot Jun 13 2017 12:15 AM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
#7 - Arizona - Pavin Smith - 1B U of Virginia
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Edgy MD Jun 13 2017 12:19 AM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
Pavin Smith is the steady, reliable, bowtie-wearing, Anglophile romantic rival to our red blooded, 80s-movie American protagonist, who is a little rough around the edges, but has heart. Pavin may offer you a big, safe house in the suburbs, Christine, but Jeff makes you laugh, and the world is better when you laugh.
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Frayed Knot Jun 13 2017 12:41 AM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
#11 - ChiSox - Jake Burger - 1B/OF Missouri state
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Edgy MD Jun 13 2017 12:47 AM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
Shane Baz is the guy who got ROBBED in Season Three of American Idol. His rendition of "Against All Odds (Take a Look at Me Now)" should be the new standard.
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Frayed Knot Jun 13 2017 01:10 AM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
#16 - Yanquis - Clarke Schmidt - RHP - Univ S Carolina
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MFS62 Jun 13 2017 01:15 AM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
Schmidt was ranked much lower in the past few weeks, BA had him ranked 32nd, MLB ranked him 49th.
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MFS62 Jun 13 2017 01:19 AM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
The Mets get this guy: David Peterson, lhp, U of Oregon.
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Frayed Knot Jun 13 2017 01:20 AM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
As from Page 1 of this thread: David Peterson, LHP, U-Oregon -- 6'6"/240, big K guy whose stock increased this year when his previously high walk rate plummeted: K/BB this season = 107/6
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Frayed Knot Jun 13 2017 01:22 AM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
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Or they simply ranked him higher than others do. These rankings, as NFL fans have failed to realize for like 90 years in a row now, are simply opinions and not etched on tablets anywhere. The snag is that he's already had TJ surgery and so that plays into the process.
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MFS62 Jun 13 2017 01:53 AM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
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I agree with all that stuff, but I still like the Derek Jeter vision theory. Later
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Frayed Knot Jun 13 2017 03:51 AM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
Insta-analysis from Jim Callis at MLB.com: Peterson is a polished lefty who took a step forward this season, striking out 20 in a game against Arizona State while ranking among the NCAA Division I leaders in strikeout-to-walk ratio. His low-90s fastball and slider are his two best pitches. He can also mix in a curveball and changeup. I can see him getting quickly to the big leagues as a mid-rotation starter.
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Frayed Knot Jun 13 2017 03:59 AM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
2nd round pick (59th overall): Mark Vientos, 3B, American Heritage School (Fla)
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 13 2017 04:37 AM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
Miami commit. Feel for hitting belied by his age, with potential plus-power and great bat speed. Interesting. Plus, the youth (early HS grads of the world, unite!) gives you an extra year to work on extracting maximum Machadoness from this lanky piece of human.
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batmagadanleadoff Jun 13 2017 06:04 AM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
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Great. Sounds like Jon Niese.
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 13 2017 06:14 AM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
Niesey. At 6'4", 240, far more bass, though.
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Ashie62 Jun 13 2017 08:35 AM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
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I was erratic at 17.
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Ashie62 Jun 13 2017 08:35 AM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
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I was erratic at 17.
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Edgy MD Jun 13 2017 11:04 AM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
Maybe he's our Bryce Harper.
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Edgy MD Jun 13 2017 12:18 PM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
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And weepie. [tweet]https://twitter.com/GoDucks/status/874460787452125184[/tweet]
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Fman99 Jun 13 2017 12:25 PM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
He's crying because as soon as the Mets picked him one of his tendons snapped.
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MFS62 Jun 13 2017 12:59 PM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
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Badass. Later
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 13 2017 05:48 PM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
3rd round: OF Quinn Brodey of Stanford U.
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seawolf17 Jun 13 2017 05:51 PM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
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CALL HIM UP, SANDY
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Edgy MD Jun 13 2017 05:53 PM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
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Which reminds me: Who was the guy without the jockstrap from last year's draft class?
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 13 2017 05:55 PM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
That was Peter "Full Package" Alonso I believe
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HahnSolo Jun 13 2017 06:01 PM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
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Frayed Knot Jun 13 2017 06:37 PM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
We're going to need a bigger dugout.
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Frayed Knot Jun 13 2017 06:38 PM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
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Sickels: Left-handed hitter with some power, some tweener risk but I think there is more upside here than commonly believed.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 13 2017 07:35 PM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
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They got 2/3 of the Stanford outfield now as they picked Brodey's Bro, Matt Winaker, in the 5th round.
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Edgy MD Jun 13 2017 08:44 PM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
Moving southeast from Stanford, they use their sixth-round pick on 5'11" RHP Marcel Renteria. No relation to Edgar, but he is supposedly tied by blood to Gil Heredia. Born to be an Expo.
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seawolf17 Jun 13 2017 09:49 PM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
Been keeping half an eye on this today, and it looks like the sex offender from Oregon State, Luke Heimlich, hasn't been picked yet and we're in the middle of the ninth round already. Gonna be interesting to see if someone just can't pass up the so-called "talent" this far down the draft and just deal with the headaches.
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Frayed Knot Jun 14 2017 01:29 AM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
7th - Conor O'Neill, RHP, Cal Northridge
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Nymr83 Jun 14 2017 01:38 AM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
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[crossout]i assume someone takes the flyer and waits to see before even offering him a contract - the player isn't always guilty - look at how La'el Collins got completely fucked over because of rumors he involved in a murder a few days before the draft - he was never charged and as far as some quick googling says it looks like everyone seems to think he was never even really a "suspect" just a person the police wanted to talk to as he'd dated the dead person.[/crossout] OE - googled it and he pled guilty (i had not seen the full story pre-draft), i'm guessing nobody takes him and he quietly signs with someone when the focus isnt on the draft
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Edgy MD Jun 14 2017 03:30 AM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
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I was hoping they'd go for Neil O'Connor.
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Frayed Knot Jun 15 2017 12:35 AM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
22nd Round pick of Toronto = Gunner (Son of Shane) Halter
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Frayed Knot Jun 15 2017 12:49 AM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
Other legacy picks:
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seawolf17 Jun 15 2017 03:48 AM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
Seriously, Mets? You couldn't throw your local school a fucking bone, late in the draft? Not even for a guy who was the conference player of the year? Bleh.
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bmfc1 Jun 15 2017 10:50 AM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
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There should be one round called "The Nepotism Round" where each team drafts someone with some connection, however tangential, to a past or present player, coach, manager or staffer. And then there should be "The Local Round" where each team drafts a local player, if only for the inevitable article in the [url]Pennysaver.
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MFS62 Jun 15 2017 12:08 PM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
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The NHL used to have "territorial protection" of players within a radius(50 miles) who only they could draft. Gee, I wonder why Montreal and Toronto had so many good hockey players? Later
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Edgy MD Jun 15 2017 08:48 PM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
The Mets used round 38 as the nepotism round, selecting Bayside High thirdbaseman Daniel Alfonzo, son of Edgardo and (I think) the fifth guy (if he signs) from the Fonzarelli family to join the organization.
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Frayed Knot Jun 16 2017 12:46 AM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
Quickie insta-analysis from John Sickels
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Frayed Knot Jun 17 2017 02:02 AM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
Blue Jays, 39th round pick from IMG Academy, Chance King, son of [u:1qjw62ol]Larry[/u:1qjw62ol] ... yes that one.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 17 2017 04:32 PM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
9th rounder Cannon Chadwick might be fun to watch. Closer type
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Edgy MD Jun 22 2017 04:10 AM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
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Hey, we/ve got some brand new Mets!
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 22 2017 04:21 AM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
I saw somewhere that Vientos had agreed to a deal
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 22 2017 06:12 AM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
Indeed ya did :$1.5M (almost 50 percent above slot value).
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Frayed Knot Jun 22 2017 12:45 PM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
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How did all those guys sign on the same day with Sandy only being able to concentrate on one thing at a time?
So that's where the money went that they saved from all those college senior picks afterward.
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bmfc1 Jun 22 2017 02:00 PM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
Have we heard the status of the #1 pick? Some #1's have been signed. Maybe it doesn't matter if Sandy will have him rest awhile after the college season.
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Edgy MD Jun 22 2017 02:24 PM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
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I like that they've drafted a Gavin (Round 26) and a MacCleod (Round 33).
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Edgy MD Jun 26 2017 02:15 AM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
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It seems that Daniel Alfonzo isn't going to sign, and that's OK, I guess. I mean, a 38th round draft choice isn't the most valuable of commodities. But I'm struck by the same question that irked me when the Mets made J.J. Franco a late-round draft choice in 2014, and earlier when they made Glen Johnson a late-round draft choice in 2007. If the Mets are going to do team employees the grace of drafting their kids, you'd think the parents would give the team a heads-up that their kids prefer to go to school.
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seawolf17 Jun 26 2017 11:12 AM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
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Plus, hey! Bonus! The Wilpons have to write one less check.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 26 2017 02:52 PM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
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This Mark Vientos guy is a piece of work.
http://metsmerizedonline.com/2017/06/mm ... ntos.html/
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seawolf17 Jun 26 2017 03:03 PM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
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TRADE HIM NOW
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 26 2017 09:49 PM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
Perhaps he merely admired their interplay, the same way '80s audiences admired Dynasty or Falcon Crest.
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Edgy MD Jun 27 2017 12:54 AM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
I like the glaring subtext, suggesting that Jetes and A-Rod were crap role models.
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John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 07 2017 04:36 PM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
Peterson signs for just under $3 million, which was "slot" value.
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Edgy MD Jul 07 2017 05:17 PM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
Now just ink the rest of The Bangles and we're going somewhere.
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Edgy MD Jul 16 2017 12:44 AM Re: Who wants to be a Met? (2017 draft) |
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Not bad so far as the Mets have 32 of their 40 picks in the fold, including all of the top ten.
That's the sort of money quote you want to read from a 40th rounder. It's also gives us a context for a guy who has already had Tommy John surgery in high school.
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