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July Deadline Dealios of 2017

Edgy MD Jul 13 2017 04:55 PM

The fun begins today as the Chicago White Sox trade ace José Quintana ... crosstown to the freaking Cubs! [tweet:25azh5uj]https://twitter.com/whitesox/status/885520101251874816[/tweet:25azh5uj] For what it's worth, Eloy Jiménez is no Happy Meal toy. His prospect rankings are pretty comparable to Amed Rosario.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 13 2017 05:05 PM Re: July Deadline Dealios of 2017

WoW. Go Chisox

Frayed Knot Jul 13 2017 05:41 PM Re: July Deadline Dealios of 2017

That trade looks like it pretty much cleans out the Cubs' (high A) Myrtle Beach roster. So while no one of the guys headed to the ChiSox are on the verge of the big leagues, Jimenez, as mentioned, is the big prize, a corner OF with plenty of power potential who was in the Top-Ten among prospects in the recent mid-season updates while still just 20 y/o. Quintana's not having the year this season like he did in 2016 when he was an AS and got some CY votes, but he's 28 and is under control thru 2018 when almost certainly one of Lackey or Arrieta won't be back.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 13 2017 05:44 PM Re: July Deadline Dealios of 2017

MFYs trade one of their Tyler relief pitchers to MIL for AAA 1Bman Cooper, reducing chances that Doodoo goes there

Frayed Knot Jul 13 2017 06:01 PM Re: July Deadline Dealios of 2017

Garrett Cooper - 6th round draft pick in 2013 out of Auburn U.; 6' 6"/230; 26 y/o; BR/TR Hitting REAL well in AAA [.366/.428/.652] but keep in mind that it's Colorado Springs although he's hit reasonably well in prior minor league seasons as well but you figure that the emergence of Thames from Korea made him expendable. Yanx have tried seven different 1st basemen already this year and I guess this signals that they don't believe Greg Bird is due back anytime soon. Cooper will probably hit six HRs his first week because that's what big MFY players do even if their careers go on to suck. IIRC from when we played them, the Brews had no LHRs in their pen so Tyler Webb is probably going to find a lot of work as they try to hold off the Cubs.

sharpie Jul 13 2017 06:26 PM Re: July Deadline Dealios of 2017

Yankees like to pick up Brewer cast-off first basemen (Carter, now Cooper). Quintana has actually been pitching well the last 6 weeks or so after a terrible start.

Ashie62 Jul 13 2017 06:44 PM Re: July Deadline Dealios of 2017

Surprised Cubs traded Eloy Jimenez.

seawolf17 Jul 13 2017 06:46 PM Re: July Deadline Dealios of 2017

Quintana trade broken on Reddit by KatyPerrysBootyHole & Wetbutt23 last night, by the way: http://deadspin.com/katyperrysbootyhole ... 1796888271 I guess we figured out one of Ken Rosenthal's Reddit handles.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 13 2017 06:54 PM Re: July Deadline Dealios of 2017

That is pretty funny

Edgy MD Jul 13 2017 07:12 PM Re: July Deadline Dealios of 2017

Rosenthal, by the way, is out of work just at the time of year when he becomes is the hardest working baseball reporter since pre-stroke Peter Gammons. Just a terrible move, FOX Sports.

HahnSolo Jul 13 2017 07:25 PM Re: July Deadline Dealios of 2017

Quintana trade broken on Reddit by KatyPerrysBootyHole & Wetbutt23 last night, by the way: http://deadspin.com/katyperrysbootyhole ... 1796888271 I guess we figured out one of Ken Rosenthal's Reddit handles. This is amazing. A CSN Chicago story on how the trade avoided the radars of the national baseball writers was forced to issue an excellent correction: Correction: While no national media had this story, a Reddit user named “wetbutt23" had it last night. CSNChicago.com apologizes to wetbutt23 for the error.

Frayed Knot Jul 13 2017 07:47 PM Re: July Deadline Dealios of 2017

I've had to apologize for a wet butt a few times in my life, but never to one. I hadn't heard about Rosenthal's situation and now that I read up on it ... it's kind of weird. FOX Sports is apparently making all of their "writing" 'video-only' leaving guys like him no place to write and no way to break stories unless there's some accompanying film, and even then the few things he has filed get buried behind all the stuff from FOX's "stars" like Cowherd who have their own shows and therefore get priority whether the "news" from them is interesting or not. Meanwhile, he's still with FOX and will still work their GotW. Just no writing because, after all, why would a news outlet want writing from a writer? Quintana was long rumored to be a MFY target for this season but apparently there wasn't much of a push from their end on this. Either that or the Cubs just surprised them with their swiftness.

Lefty Specialist Jul 13 2017 08:00 PM Re: July Deadline Dealios of 2017

I actually found Rosenthal's writing better than his in-person irrelevancies. I don't care who you're wearing that ugly bow-tie for, dude.

Frayed Knot Jul 13 2017 09:04 PM Re: July Deadline Dealios of 2017

Sideline reporters are, IMO, virtually always irrelevant so I don't hang that particular fault on Rosenthal. It's more the fault of the ingrained thinking that convinces networks they're required to have one. The bigger story is the idiocy of having the guy who probably breaks more national baseball stories than anyone and his employer decides, right as they're heading into deadline season, to take his main format away.

Ashie62 Jul 13 2017 10:29 PM Re: July Deadline Dealios of 2017

Not quite a trade but the Tampa Bay Rays Colby Rasmus has left baseball. [url]http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/mlb/544416/colby-rasmus-(hip)-to-step-away-from-mlb?ls=roto:MLB:topheadlines

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 14 2017 01:02 PM Re: July Deadline Dealios of 2017

I'm just saying, if Quintana gets you Eloy-plus, then Dutch Boy gets you...

Edgy MD Jul 14 2017 01:24 PM Re: July Deadline Dealios of 2017

I see your knavery.

seawolf17 Jul 14 2017 01:24 PM Re: July Deadline Dealios of 2017

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: I'm just saying, if Quintana gets you Eloy-plus, then Dutch Boy gets you... ...a fucking riot at Citi Field, because he's like the only guy we have left to root for.

Frayed Knot Jul 14 2017 01:33 PM Re: July Deadline Dealios of 2017

Frayed Knot wrote: Quintana's not having the year this season like he did in 2016 when he was an AS and got some CY votes, but he's 28 and is under control thru 2018 when almost certainly one of Lackey or Arrieta won't be back. Actually it turns out that Quintana is under a long-term contract with team options for both 2019 & 2020 so the Cubs can get up to 3-1/2 years of use out of him at reasonable rates: $8.5 / $10.5 / $11.5 for 2018/19/20 So now the question remains whether he's going to be the 3.5 - 5.0 WAR/year pitcher he was from 2013-16 or the 0.9 WAR guy he is this year.

Ceetar Jul 14 2017 01:49 PM Re: July Deadline Dealios of 2017

Frayed Knot wrote: Sideline reporters are, IMO, virtually always irrelevant so I don't hang that particular fault on Rosenthal. It's more the fault of the ingrained thinking that convinces networks they're required to have one. The bigger story is the idiocy of having the guy who probably breaks more national baseball stories than anyone and his employer decides, right as they're heading into deadline season, to take his main format away. It wouldn't surprise me if you get very little pageviews/clicks on the few minutes of early news on a trade versus the yelling (or in a more sane world, discussion) about it 20 minutes later.

Frayed Knot Jul 14 2017 04:39 PM Re: July Deadline Dealios of 2017

For an [u:860aulv1]UN[/u:860aulv1]-deal in July comes news that the BoSox have DFA'd Pablo Sandoval 2-1/2 seasons into his 5 year/$95 million deal. Total return for their investment: 575 ABs, 14 HRs, .237/.286/.360 -- essentially a replacement level player and even a negative one once his (lack of) defense is factored in. A hunnert mil just don't buy what it used to. Sandoval turns 31 next month. Tough to find a worse recent FA signing than this one and, while I'm not going to claim I saw a disaster of this proportion coming, it did seem to me back when he was signed like the Sox had uncharacteristically abandoned their Moneyball-ish tendancies and instead were buying a wee bit too much into Sandoval's 'clutchness' factor given his playoff record for the Giants. And maybe the bigger problem is that they traded away his logical replacement over the winter in Travis Shaw (now tearing things up for Milwaukee) for some bullpen help, Tyler Thornton, who's missed the entire 2017 season to date due to shoulder (Thoracic Outlet) surgery

Edgy MD Jul 14 2017 04:50 PM Re: July Deadline Dealios of 2017

Putting aside re-signing deals (*cough* Wright *cough*), I like the B.J. Upton deal for free agent futility, if only because the Braves had to throw in Craig Kimbrel to get rid of him.

Frayed Knot Jul 14 2017 05:13 PM Re: July Deadline Dealios of 2017

And unlike most Atlanta deals, even when they seem to be just dumping salary, they didn't get much useful back in that trade. In the meantime I've lost track of who's paying BJ -- now Melvin -- NOT to play this year as 2017 is the final year of that five-year deal he signed w/the Braves. It's some combo of the Braves, Padres, and/or Blue Jays. After the Jays released him in April he hooked on with the Giants on a minor league deal but is listed as having played just one game w/AAA Sacramento. Still just 32 y/o

Edgy MD Jul 14 2017 06:35 PM Re: July Deadline Dealios of 2017

Francisco Rodriguez, continually looking to break his personal best when it comes to wearing out welcomes, has been released by the Nationals before appearing in a single game.

Frayed Knot Jul 18 2017 11:26 PM Re: July Deadline Dealios of 2017

So corner OF JD Martinez nets the Tigers three prospects from the DBacks. Martinez, 4 months younger than Bruce, was hitting .305 with 16 home runs and 39 RBIs for Detroit but played just 57 games this season. Adjust your Granderson and/or Bruce WATPs accordingly. MLB.com: Arizona sent prospects Dawel Lugo, Sergio Alcantara and Jose King to Detroit. Lugo, a 22-year-old third baseman and shortstop, was ranked the D-backs' No. 4 prospect by MLBPipeline.com and is currently in AA Alcantara (High-A) the D-backs' No. 15 prospect, is a 21-year-old shortstop. King is an 18-year-old shortstop.

Ashie62 Jul 19 2017 12:18 AM Re: July Deadline Dealios of 2017

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: I'm just saying, if Quintana gets you Eloy-plus, then Dutch Boy gets you... If Dutch-boy is Nimmo I would have to disagree.

Ashie62 Jul 19 2017 12:26 AM Re: July Deadline Dealios of 2017

Astros Carlos Correa out 6-8 weeks with a thumb. Asdrubal Cabrera, how bout it Astros.

Edgy MD Jul 19 2017 12:45 AM Re: July Deadline Dealios of 2017

Thumbs are the worst. Unless they think there's a chance that Correa won't entirely return, there's no need for Houston to deal, as they're up by 15 1/2.

seawolf17 Jul 19 2017 12:53 AM Re: July Deadline Dealios of 2017

Edgy MD wrote: Thumbs are the worst. Unless they think there's a chance that Correa won't entirely return, there's no need for Houston to deal, as they're up by 15 1/2. I think they need a clubhouse leader type like Cabrera. And Granderson. And Duda. And Harvey.

Frayed Knot Jul 19 2017 12:55 AM Re: July Deadline Dealios of 2017

Yeah I can't see Houston panicking here, especially with Correa at least slated to be back by early-mid-September. btw, this was one of those deals where he hurt it initially on a (say it with me folks) head-first slide into home!! back in early July but continued to play with it until re-hurting it on a swing. So it turns out that he lost a couple weeks of potential rehab time. Wonder if Houston fans are blaming the doctors and/or training staff?

Edgy MD Jul 19 2017 02:49 AM Re: July Deadline Dealios of 2017

So he's pretty much a younger version of Cabrera.

Edgy MD Jul 20 2017 12:47 AM Re: July Deadline Dealios of 2017

Minor league deal reportedly returning Sandoval to The Giants!

MFS62 Jul 20 2017 01:35 AM Re: July Deadline Dealios of 2017

Edgy MD wrote: Minor league deal reportedly returning Sandoval to The Giants! Sandoval and Trump - they might tilt the country to the left. Later

Frayed Knot Jul 20 2017 05:31 PM Re: July Deadline Dealios of 2017

Dealing away reliever David Phelps nets the Marlins four Seattle Mariner prospects headed by 19 y/o OF Brayan Hernandez, Seattle's No. 6 prospect although he's yet to play above rookie ball. Also RHPs Brandon Miller (22 - Low-A), Pablo Lopez (18), and Lukas (son of Calvin) Schiraldi (23 y/o at High-A) Phelps will be arg-eligible next year and not a FA until the end of 2018 so not quite an equivalent status to say Reed

Edgy MD Jul 21 2017 01:12 AM Re: July Deadline Dealios of 2017

Good move. If you want to win a World Series, you've gotta trade a guy named "Schiraldi."

smg58 Jul 21 2017 02:42 PM Re: July Deadline Dealios of 2017

That was mean. Accurate, but mean. Phelps has another year, but he's also not that good. It's a seller's market for relievers. It would render our pen utterly useless for the rest of the season, but I think you have to see what Reed can get you.

Frayed Knot Jul 24 2017 11:34 PM Re: July Deadline Dealios of 2017

The rumored/then shot-down deal of Jaime Garcia to the Twins is now a done deal as the Braves send the lefty starter along with one Mr. Anthony Recker to get back 19 y/o minor league pitcher Huascar Ynoa Garcia was supposed to be dealt to Minnesota last week, the Braves even brought a stand-by pitcher to their west coast trip to replace Garcia if and when it went down. But when the deal fell through Garcia made his start against the Dodgers where he not only out-pitched the previously unbeaten (ex-Brave) Alex Wood but he also Grand-Slammed against him! Turns out now that was Garcia's last start for the Cobb County squad. The Braves, btw, split the four game set in LA over the weekend. The Dodgers had won 11 straight and 31 of 35 heading into that series but got smoked in the first two games. And even in Sunday's loss the Braves scored three times in the 9th vs closer Jansen to tie it before later losing the game in extras. That's a helluva lot better than we did when we were out there.

bmfc1 Jul 29 2017 02:27 AM Re: July Deadline Dealios of 2017

If you didn't hate him as a Dodger now you can hate him as a National: Howie Kendrick.

Edgy MD Jul 29 2017 02:51 AM Re: July Deadline Dealios of 2017

Hey, the booth is passing on reports that the Mets are dealing for A.J. Ramos.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 29 2017 02:57 AM Re: July Deadline Dealios of 2017

Someone said Checchini was pulled from Vegas game.

Edgy MD Jul 29 2017 03:03 AM Re: July Deadline Dealios of 2017

Mmmm ... feeling sudden dislike at that news.

bmfc1 Jul 30 2017 01:08 PM Re: July Deadline Dealios of 2017

MFYs just made another "dealio" getting Jamie Garcia, most recently of the Twins who had him for just one start after getting him from ATL. MIN apparently traded a prospect to ATL and then received a better prospect from the MFYs.

Ashie62 Jul 30 2017 05:14 PM Re: July Deadline Dealios of 2017

Royal acquire Melky Cabrera from White Sox for two prospects.

Edgy MD Jul 30 2017 06:05 PM Re: July Deadline Dealios of 2017

Ashie62 wrote: LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: I'm just saying, if Quintana gets you Eloy-plus, then Dutch Boy gets you... If Dutch-boy is Nimmo I would have to disagree. Why would Nimmo be "Dutch Boy"?

Frayed Knot Jul 30 2017 06:38 PM Re: July Deadline Dealios of 2017

I think he's suggesting deGrom

Ashie62 Jul 30 2017 10:42 PM Re: July Deadline Dealios of 2017

Edgy MD wrote: Ashie62 wrote: LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: I'm just saying, if Quintana gets you Eloy-plus, then Dutch Boy gets you... If Dutch-boy is Nimmo I would have to disagree. Why would Nimmo be "Dutch Boy"? Nimmo is just very blonde. Guess I got the wrong guy.

Frayed Knot Jul 31 2017 02:31 AM Re: July Deadline Dealios of 2017

Jonathan Lucroy to Colorado from Texas which is where he was dealt at this time last year. He had NOT been having a good 2017 for the Rangers and so a PtbNL is the only thing going the other way.

Frayed Knot Jul 31 2017 02:41 PM Re: July Deadline Dealios of 2017

bmfc1 wrote: MFYs just made another "dealio" getting Jamie Garcia, most recently of the Twins who had him for just one start after getting him from ATL. MIN apparently traded a prospect to ATL and then received a better prospect from the MFYs. So the Twins trade for pitching, then lose six of seven (the one game they won was the one Garcia started) and so decide that they're out of it to the point where they trade that pitching to one of the teams they could potentially be fighting against for the WC. And you folks thought the AJ Ramos deal was strange! Be interesting for Twins fans to track the future progress of the one prospect they sent to Atlanta to get Garcia vs the two they got back from the Skanks since the net effect of this deal is a two for one swap of minor leaguers.

Frayed Knot Jul 31 2017 06:06 PM Re: July Deadline Dealios of 2017

Francisco Liriano, who's been real good, real bad, and everywhere in between in his career since first showing up with the Twins in 2005, is moving from the Blue Jays to the Astros who are expected to use him out of the bullpen. OF Nori Aoki and a minor leaguer go the other way. Also the Cubs filled their backup catcher hole last night, getting Alex Avila and LHR Justin Wilson from the Tigers in exchange for a couple minor leaguers. Chicago's need for a backup backstop was a source of rumors that they were looking at Rene Rivera. btw, Detroit GM Al(berto) Avila dealt away his own son Al(ex) in pulling off that trade.

seawolf17 Jul 31 2017 07:14 PM Re: July Deadline Dealios of 2017

Sonny Gray to the MFYs, apparently.

Frayed Knot Jul 31 2017 07:21 PM Re: July Deadline Dealios of 2017

seawolf17 wrote: Sonny Gray to the MFYs, apparently. For three "Top 12" prospects -- meaning Top-12 within the Yanx system, not overall -- IF Jorge Mateo, RHP James Kaprelian, OF Dustin Fowler Sonny Gray has a name almost as contradictory as Angel Pagan

Ceetar Jul 31 2017 08:18 PM Re: July Deadline Dealios of 2017

Yu thought we were done? Darvish to the Dodgers.

seawolf17 Jul 31 2017 08:19 PM Re: July Deadline Dealios of 2017

Man, good thing we don't play the Dodgers any time soo---SUNUVABITCH

Frayed Knot Jul 31 2017 08:46 PM Re: July Deadline Dealios of 2017

Actually Darvish isn't all that good this year and might wind up being the least scary LAD pitcher you could draw at the moment. Dodgers also dealt for two LH relievers today and the Nats for Twins closer Brandon Kintzler (third reliever they've added in the last three weeks) as those two team look to each other as their biggest competition.

smg58 Aug 01 2017 02:42 AM Re: July Deadline Dealios of 2017

After all the lack of demand for two-month rentals, the Rangers got a nice haul -- Willie Calhoun is the #4 second base prospect in baseball and he's ready to play in the show right now.

Edgy MD Aug 01 2017 03:20 AM Re: July Deadline Dealios of 2017

Frayed Knot wrote: Actually Darvish isn't all that good this year and might wind up being the least scary LAD pitcher you could draw at the moment. He did alright against the Mets back in June, though. He actually did better than alright mostly, giving up only three hits in 7 1/3. Fortunately for the Mets, two of those hits were bombs by Jay Bruce, and they won in the ninth on a Matt Bush error, and a safe call that stood after a challenge and review.