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McGregor v. Mayweather


Yes, I will definitely watch 1 votes

I'll probably watch, but only if it's cheap/free 3 votes

I am indifferent to this event 1 votes

No, I will definitely not watch 9 votes

A Boy Named Seo
Jun 15 2017 06:34 PM
Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Jun 15 2017 07:49 PM

Prob not a lot of CPF interest, but I'm embarrassingly intrigued by this. Watched boxing with my dad as a kid, but haven't paid close attention to it since, I guess, peak-era Mike Tyson. MMA is too brutal a 'sport' and and I think it's a bad thing, full of jacked-up assholes, so I don't watch.

BUT!

This McGregor is super entertaining and I have youtube'd clips of him (his pressers are especially outrageous).

He's an asshole, but a conceited asshole. Not a detestable human being asshole like Floyd Mayweather. The lead-up to this fight should be annoying, vulgar, and at times, some truly fun-to-watch major league shit-slinging.

The fight itself, who knows? The early lines were heavy toward the 40-year old, undefeated Floyd as favorite (and still are) but are sliding towards Conor as presumably lots of bets have come in for the heavy dog in his first professional boxing match.

Do you have any interest in this at all? Would you buy the PPV (prob $100 bucks)? Guessing no, I def wouldn't. Would you pitch a five or tenner at some party for this? I would. Or is this just another sign of our society's rapid descent into blood-thirsty stupidity? VERY POSSIBLY. What say you?

metirish
Jun 15 2017 07:23 PM
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I only watch MMA when McGregor is fighting , not a fan of the sport really but I do find him entertaining, and he has a huge Irish following....I watch online and not PPV.....this fight is intriguing, but as a straight boxing match shouldn't FM win easily?

A Boy Named Seo
Jun 15 2017 07:40 PM
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metirish wrote:
I only watch MMA when McGregor is fighting , not a fan of the sport really but I do find him entertaining, and he has a huge Irish following....I watch online and not PPV.....this fight is intriguing, but as a straight boxing match shouldn't FM win easily?


You would think. I watched Floyd/Manny with friends and he is an expert at avoiding contact, countering for points, and lulling every bored viewer into a heavy, peaceful sleep. But he's 40, been out of the game for a couple years, so who knows. Neither have likely faced anything like the other.

I have a friend who loves boxing and he made me watch the Tyson Fury / Klitschko fight. To make it interesting (for me), I bet $20 on Fury to win by decision and won some small amount of money. As I'm now an expert bettor, I think I would plunk some bucks on Conor to win (currently down to +350), and a few more on him to win by KO/TKO/DQ (currently +500), then I'D LAUGH ALL THE WAY TO THE BANK.

Frayed Knot
Jun 15 2017 07:42 PM
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I was going to write out a whole thing about how I have zero interest in this so-called fight ... but then I found this thread in the archives which saves my fingers a lot of work.

http://archives.thecranepool.net/22600/f2_t22686.shtml

Basically my thoughts then are the same as now only I consider this upcoming one to be even less of a real sporting event and more of a circus. Also, like Mayweather/Pacquiao, I find in these first
handful of hours since the BIG ANNOUNCEMENT was made that the sports version of the chattering classes are once again touting this as a huge must-watch event as if the utter boringness (even
by the admission of fans) and meaninglessness of Mayweather/Pacquiao never happened.

A Boy Named Seo
Jun 15 2017 07:49 PM
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I was going to write out a whole thing about how I have zero interest in this so-called fight ... but then I found this thread in the archives which saves my fingers a lot of work.

http://archives.thecranepool.net/22600/f2_t22686.shtml

Basically my thoughts then are the same as now only I consider this upcoming one to be even less of a real sporting event and more of a circus. Also, like Mayweather/Pacquiao, I find in these first
handful of hours since the BIG ANNOUNCEMENT was made that the sports version of the chattering classes are once again touting this as a huge must-watch event as if the utter boringness (even
by the admission of fans) and meaninglessness of Mayweather/Pacquiao never happened.


Good memory! I added a poll so we can shoot for another landslide here.

HahnSolo
Jun 15 2017 08:07 PM
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No interest in either MMA or boxing.

themetfairy
Jun 15 2017 08:22 PM
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I won't be watching. As before, I just don't have any interest in it.

Ashie62
Jun 15 2017 11:19 PM
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I have become an MMA/UFC fan in a big way.

Conor is a tremendous showman for sure.

Conor's skill set favors striking/boxing over grappling/wrestling.

Long odds for sure but CM does have a powerful right.

Fman99
Jun 16 2017 12:09 PM
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Tried to care. Came up short.

cooby
Jun 16 2017 12:27 PM
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Used to love boxing but lost interest years ago

Nymr83
Jun 16 2017 03:50 PM
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Mayweather is unwatchable as he wins by gently tapping the other guy more than he gets tapped while avoiding any hard contact from either side. he makes boxing boring.

this fight meanwhile will be a joke - boxing isnt a real fight (MMA is much closer) and McGregor - who i'm sure would win a fight between these two on the street - will have no clue in there competing against the master of the craft. this is Jordan playing baseball. maybe worse.

despite my personal lack of interest i congratulate McGregor and his team on managing to parlay his fame in MMA into an extremely lucrative boxing match that could pay him more than he has made in all his MMA fights combined

Rockin' Doc
Jun 22 2017 02:45 AM
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I'm tired of the hype already. This is just another blatant cash grab masquerading as a legitimate sporting event. You couldn't pay me a hundred dollars to watch it on pay per view.

Nymr83
Aug 22 2017 03:45 AM
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what does intrigue me about this fight is the Vegas side - the sportsbooks had NO CLUE how to price this thing and are set up to take a bath if McGregor wins. that can't happen if the fight is on the up and up but wow, what if its not? Mayweather is available now at -475 as the books beg for action on him. its seems insane. would you lay -475 on the Patriots against the best college football team? isnt that what this is?

Frayed Knot
Aug 22 2017 11:48 AM
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Nymr83 wrote:
but wow, what if its not [on the up and up]?


Then all involved will get exactly what they deserve.
Look, even those who claim interest in this sleaze-a-thon acknowledge that they're much more interested in the pre-fight hype and in the event as a spectacle than they are as a sporting event, so
I'm not quite sure why they should particularly care if the outcome is rigged.
What would a "real" outcome show anyway: that Mayweather is better at his sport than an outsider; or that McGregor in his prime can beat a 40 y/o well past his sell-by date?
Whoop-de-damn-do either way.



Mayweather is available now at -475 as the books beg for action on him. its seems insane. would you lay -475 on the Patriots against the best college football team? isnt that what this is?


One tidbit I heard was that while most of the action in terms of number of bets are coming in on McGregor, most of the money (fewer bets for larger amounts) is still coming in on Mayweather.
What all that means for the house, the bettor, or the "sports" hosts who are only too happy to roll around in the racist and homophobic tirades passed off as promotion for this sham (all while telling
us how inclusive and compassionate they are) - I couldn't give a shit.

Edgy MD
Aug 22 2017 12:20 PM
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Look away.

This is the Trump presidency as (an alleged) sporting spectacle.

A Boy Named Seo
Aug 22 2017 03:49 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:
Look away.

This is the Trump presidency as (an alleged) sporting spectacle.


Yep. Complete with the misogyny and racism. I wonder - would an MMA crowd be a safe, pro-Donald crowd for our shithead president? I feel like based on nothing that demographic might overwhelmingly like him.

Centerfield
Aug 22 2017 05:49 PM
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Would love to claim to be above it all and not care. But it's an interesting story, and if it were on, I'd definitely stop to watch.

I used to like boxing a lot as a kid, but have long since lost interest. Never got into MMA. I think I'd like to see an MMA guy get his ass kicked by a boxer. But I also have a hard time rooting for a bad guy like Mayweather. McGregor seems douchy. Would love to travel back in time, grab Ali or Tyson and watch them wipe the floor with him. I guess Tyson was no angel either.

I wonder about the future of both sports, as the CTE talk continues to get louder. You have to figure they both might not be around for long.

seawolf17
Aug 22 2017 05:51 PM
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I couldn't possibly care less about this event.

A Boy Named Seo
Aug 22 2017 07:12 PM
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Centerfield wrote:

I wonder about the future of both sports, as the CTE talk continues to get louder. You have to figure they both might not be around for long.


Man, I have a bad feeling MMAs only gonna get bigger and more popular. I think boxing has been in decline for a while for a number of reasons (corruption, expensive PPVs and cable TV fights, 4 different organizations which confusingly means 4 different belts for each weight class, fight schedules that make little sense, lack of a huge persona champ, etc.), but I think MMAs rise to prominence from the seedy shadows has as much to do with boxing's decline as anything else. It's more violent, more blood-thirsty, and seems to have less in place to protect the fighters from becoming vegetables. And people love that shit.

Also, a Conor win would seemingly send the boxing death-watch into hyperspeed, wouldn't it? If a guy regarded as one of the sport's all-time greats loses to an MMA champ with a 0-0 pro boxing record, then what's it say about boxing?

41Forever
Aug 22 2017 07:25 PM
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How is it that we have football players covered on pads from head to toe and are still -- rightfully -- concerned about concussions, yet professional boxers are not forced to wear head protection? Don't the Olympic boxers wear the head protection?

Edgy MD
Aug 22 2017 08:01 PM
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Because there is a market for exploitation and blood. Always has been.

And as we're in an era that frowns on regulation, it's a perfect mix for kill-o-tainment.

d'Kong76
Aug 22 2017 08:20 PM
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This thing hasn't happened yet??
I miss the early Wrestlemania ppv days, before wrestling became fake.

Nymr83
Aug 22 2017 11:23 PM
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A Boy Named Seo wrote:
Edgy MD wrote:
Look away.

This is the Trump presidency as (an alleged) sporting spectacle.


Yep. Complete with the misogyny and racism. I wonder - would an MMA crowd be a safe, pro-Donald crowd for our shithead president? I feel like based on nothing that demographic might overwhelmingly like him.


that is crap - boxing has been about promoting racism since before anyone even knew who Donald trump was!

Edgy MD
Aug 22 2017 11:46 PM
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This, of course, is something far more than boxing.

It's a fraud. It's stupid. It's shameless. It treats you like crap and then gaslights you as it tells you it didn't. It traffics openly in racism and sexism and then calls those who call them on it hypersensitive. It values spectacle over substance. And even as everybody knows it's a ripoff, it demands we all back it to keep it going, to somehow feel in on the joke and be able to get on the bandwagon and laugh at the rest who refuse to play.

It's a total Trump-show, and if he wasn't president, he'd be the guy presenting this shower of poo. And part of him is probably disappointed he isn't. And no matter how far away we try to stay, it denigrates us all.

Trump.

d'Kong76
Aug 23 2017 02:03 AM
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Edgy MD wrote:
It's a total Trump-show, and if he wasn't president, he'd be the guy presenting this shower of poo. And part of him is probably disappointed he isn't.

I don't really get this; it's two guys from different 'sports' going at it for an
over-hyped battle. PPV nonsense has been going on for like three decades.
This is on Trump? Really?

Edgy MD
Aug 23 2017 02:16 AM
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It's not on Trump. Not at all. I'm sorry if I've been ambiguous.

It represents the same cultural forces and degradations and market for deplorable bullshit as Trump.

d'Kong76
Aug 23 2017 02:42 AM
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I don't get the Trump slant, but whatever.
It's a stupid PPV slug-fest., not a political thing.
You can't possibly think that no one liberal won't be watching this
with wide eyes and money with their bookies.

Edgy MD
Aug 23 2017 03:35 AM
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d'Kong76 wrote:
You can't possibly think that no one liberal won't be watching this
with wide eyes and money with their bookies.

Of course not, no.

But I don't think of Trump as a conservative. I think he's a trash-culture huckster.

Nymr83
Aug 23 2017 04:17 AM
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if anything, he is a "trash-culture appropriator" or "opportunist", but the culture of racism in boxing far predates Trump as a publicly relevant person. yeah, i could see him as one of the chief promoters. not that hes a real racist, just that he'd love having his mug all over the screen.

Frayed Knot
Aug 23 2017 05:05 PM
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Only tangentially related to May-Gregor, but while ESPN's shows and hosts wallow around in the muck and mire of this 'fight' like pigs in slop (I don't think I've ever seen the four-letter network dive into
anything so completely that wasn't either a Super Bowl or an event they personally owed) ESPN corporate is being as politically correct and risk-averse as ever. To wit they've removed a sportscaster
from their upcoming coverage of Wm & Mary at UVA football game because his name is Robert Lee and they don't want anyone to confuse him with General Robert E. Lee while in Charlottesville.
General Lee has been dead for 150 years while the living one is Chinese-American, but I guess you can never be too careful. They issued a statement on this (apparently after being outed) saying that
it's a shame the name similarity has "become an issue". Only after you made it one you hypersensitive dopes.
I hope that Bob Ley (also pronounced Lee), a longtime stalwart on their issues type programming, is watching his back.

This isn't quite as bad as last year when one of their tennis announcer's referred to Serena Williams and her guerrilla tactics on the court. They knew damn well that he wasn't comparing her to a
gorilla but they went ahead and preemptively fired him anyway so they could claim the moral high ground just in case anyone did.

Let's just say that they seen to have varying standards as to where and when to pick and choose their spots to be sensitive and inclusive.

Ceetar
Aug 23 2017 05:59 PM
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The way this compares to Trump is the way the coverage of it falls all over itself talking about the spectacle and the circus of it and loving the ratings and attention related to that.

Ashie62
Aug 27 2017 03:53 PM
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Sweet fight. Glad I watched it. Both fighters got stung more than a few times.