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08/14 - Mets at Yankees

d'Kong76 Aug 14 2017 12:00 PM

NY Mets at NY Yankees When: 7:05 PM ET, Monday, August 14, 2017 Where: Yankee Stadium, Bronx, New York By Gracenote The New York Yankees were unable to gain any ground in the American League East over the weekend, but they still lead the wild-card race as they enter the four-game Subway Series, which begins when they host the New York Mets on Monday. The Yankees lost the final two contests of their three-game series against Boston to fall 5 1/2 games behind the division-leading Red Sox but still hold a 1 1/2-game advantage over the Los Angeles Angels for the first AL wild card. The Yankees managed only five hits in Sunday's 10-inning setback, which was their eighth loss in 12 games this month. Rookie Aaron Judge leads the AL with 35 home runs but has gone deep just once in his last 11 contests. The Mets beat up on major league-worst Philadelphia over the weekend, winning three of four in the series - including a 6-2 decision on Sunday in which Curtis Granderson finished a triple shy of the cycle, drove in three runs and scored three times. Michael Conforto has homered in five of his last eight contests and leads all active Mets with 26 blasts. TV: 7:05 p.m. ET, ESPN, SNY (Mets), YES (Yankees) PITCHING MATCHUP: Mets RH Rafael Montero (1-8, 6.06 ERA) vs. Yankees RH Luis Cessa (0-3, 4.83) Montero is winless in his last six starts, including a loss to Texas on Wednesday in which he yielded four runs on five hits and three walks over three innings. The 26-year-old Dominican has suffered four losses since registering his lone victory of the season at San Francisco on June 25, when he allowed one run in 5 2/3 frames. Montero made his major-league debut against the Yankees, taking the loss after giving up three runs in six innings on May 14, 2014. Cessa is expected be brought up from Triple-A Scranton/Wilkes-Barre to make his fifth start of the season and first since July 18, when he escaped with a no-decision after surrendering three runs on four hits and four walks across 3 2/3 innings at Minnesota. The 25-year-old Mexican has not pitched for the Yankees since working 3 1/3 scoreless frames of relief on July 30 against Tampa Bay. Cessa will be facing the Mets for the first time in his career. WALK-OFFS: 1. Yankees C Gary Sanchez has gone 7-for-19 with two homers and three RBIs during his five-game hitting streak. 2. The Mets purchased the contract of RHP Kevin McGowan from Triple-A Las Vegas on Sunday to fill the empty roster spot created by Saturday's trade of 2B Neil Walker to Milwaukee. 3. The Yankees recalled LHP Caleb Smith from Scranton/Wilkes-Barre and optioned RHP Giovanny Gallegos to the RailRiders.

Edgy MD Aug 14 2017 01:11 PM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

Remember where you come from, Luis.

Fman99 Aug 14 2017 01:30 PM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

I hope the Mets spend the whole week dickslapping these guys.

Frayed Knot Aug 14 2017 01:47 PM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

Because it would not only help salvage a little bit of our season but it would go a long way towards ruining theirs. The AL East is already slipping away from the Yanx (5.5 games) and if just one or two of the [u:3vh1cld9]eight[/u:3vh1cld9] mediocrities on their tail could win more than a game or two in a row without stepping in their own shit then the WC would be in trouble also. The contenders for the AL WC may not be any good but that race should be fun to watch -- currently there are 9 teams inside a 5.5 game span. What's kept the Yanx in the lead is that those other eight are spending most of their time beating up each other.

Lefty Specialist Aug 14 2017 02:58 PM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

Fman99 wrote: I hope the Mets spend the whole week dickslapping these guys. I get a feeling we're going to be the slapees.

Centerfield Aug 14 2017 03:00 PM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

We will be tonight. What's the over/under on the runs Montero will surrender in the first two innings? I'm guessing 5.

Ceetar Aug 14 2017 03:03 PM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

It's not like Cessa is good. or average. or okay.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 14 2017 03:05 PM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

He'll be fine in the first 2 innings, it's the 4th and 5th that worry me. The 4th more, only because he won't pitch the whole fifth.

d'Kong76 Aug 14 2017 03:16 PM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

What's the over/under on Judge HR's over the next four days? 6½?

Ceetar Aug 14 2017 03:21 PM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

d'Kong76 wrote: What's the over/under on Judge HR's over the next four days? 6½? He doesn't really do that anymore.

d'Kong76 Aug 14 2017 03:25 PM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

So you're taking the under! I'm torn, these stupid series seem to often morph into unpleasantness.

Frayed Knot Aug 14 2017 03:30 PM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

d'Kong76 wrote: What's the over/under on Judge HR's over the next four days? 6½? Not as high as his over/under on strikeouts. 46 in 97 ABs since the ASG.

Edgy MD Aug 14 2017 03:33 PM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

Not in 2013, though. [list][*]BoxScore 05/27/13, W, Mets 2, New York Yankees 1, Lyon (W, 2-2)[/*:m] [*]BoxScore 05/28/13, W, Mets 2, New York Yankees 1, Rice (W, 3-3)[/*:m] [*]BoxScore 05/29/13, W, Mets 9, New York Yankees 4, Hefner (W, 1-5)[/*:m] [*]BoxScore 05/30/13, W, Mets 3, New York Yankees 1, Gee (W, 3-6)[/*:m][/list:u] Let's make a tradition of sweeping the season series from the Yankees in the summer following a presidential election. That is, if there are any more presidential elections.

Ashie62 Aug 14 2017 04:59 PM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

The Vegas o/u foR the game is 10, only 10.. Yes, Cessa was a Mets who went with Fulmer to Detroit for that Cespedes guy. LGM.

seawolf17 Aug 14 2017 05:00 PM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

Lyon-Rice-Hefner-Gee. Not exactly Doc-Ronnie-Sid-Ojeda, eh? John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: He'll be fine in the first 2 innings, it's the 4th and 5th that worry me. The 4th more, only because he won't pitch the whole fifth. Fifth? He'll be watching the fifth, showered, in the clubhouse. He won't make it out of the third.

Benjamin Grimm Aug 14 2017 05:22 PM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

Montero will throw a two-hit shutout! You heard it here first!

Ashie62 Aug 14 2017 06:12 PM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Montero will throw a two-hit shutout! You heard it here first! You mean a Dave Mlicki type performance?

Zvon Aug 14 2017 06:38 PM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

I really wish I could jump back into IGTs but my current connection is (horrible) wifi and the MLBtv broadcast won't play. If I'm lucky I can get the WOR radio broadcast though. Last night I got it for a few innings. If I can get that for the Skankee game I'll join in. If only to see how far behind in time the action is compared to my feed. lol.

Frayed Knot Aug 14 2017 07:15 PM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

Tonight's game -- and Wednesday's -- will be carried by ESPN if that's of any help.

bmfc1 Aug 14 2017 07:40 PM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

Frayed Knot wrote: Tonight's game -- and Wednesday's -- will be carried by ESPN if that's of any help. And Thursday's game is on MLBN (outside of NY). http://mets.mlb.com/mlb/official_info/b ... p?c_id=nym

Ceetar Aug 14 2017 07:42 PM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

[tweet:4e8f56do]https://twitter.com/Mets/status/897179532788207616[/tweet:4e8f56do]

Lefty Specialist Aug 14 2017 07:54 PM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Montero will throw a two-hit shutout! You heard it here first! Yeah, but what'll he do in the second inning? Terry actually being sensible by DH-ing Granderson and letting Johnny Lags patrol that big center field in the Mausoleum.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 14 2017 08:00 PM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

LGM YGB FTY, etcetc

d'Kong76 Aug 14 2017 08:13 PM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

[tweet:31757w8k]https://twitter.com/mlblineups/status/897187721646661632[/tweet:31757w8k]

Frayed Knot Aug 14 2017 09:27 PM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

Gardner - turning 34 y/o next week but in the midst of the best power season of his career - 19 HRs!! Hicks - just off the DL, this former 1st round bust (14th overall - 2008) for the Twins has been kind of like 'found money' for the Yanx, particularly with Ellsbury hurt and/or sucking. Good OF, Good arm Judge - now that he's had two lousy stints (2nd half of 2016, since ASB 2017) and one good one (1st half 2017) which is real and which the outlier is still TBD Gregorius - also recently off the DL, having his best season to date Sanchez - dangerous hitter, good arm, lousy catcher. Too bad we're lousy runners Headley - moved to 1st to make room for T. Frazier. Yanx basically can't wait to get rid of him Frazier - low average, good power Torreyes - The hushed-up bastard son of Joe Torre and Jose Reyes. Contact & speed but little power Wade - Wouldn't recognize him if he and I were the only two stuck on an elevator, his name is either Tyler Wade or Wade Tyler, I'm not sure which.

Ashie62 Aug 14 2017 09:40 PM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

Conforto and Judge each need 5 homers to make a milestone number. Get it on.

Lefty Specialist Aug 14 2017 10:36 PM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

31 is a milestone number?

Edgy MD Aug 14 2017 11:24 PM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

Great first inning for Montero.

Ashie62 Aug 14 2017 11:30 PM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

Does Rosario's beard look a little well, uh. in need of a groom?

Edgy MD Aug 14 2017 11:35 PM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

It has all year, yeah.

Edgy MD Aug 14 2017 11:46 PM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

Cessa looks a little Pettitte-ish in the face. Granderson on the other hand, just looks grand.

themetfairy Aug 14 2017 11:48 PM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

And Cespedes!

Edgy MD Aug 14 2017 11:50 PM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

We rule the universe in solo homers. Why did the fans explode into cheers two seconds before Céspedes connected? (And as I hit submit, Darling reports that they were cheering about Granderson's homer being thrown back. That guy gave you 2100 perfectly good plate appearances, you ungrateful jerks.)

Edgy MD Aug 15 2017 12:06 AM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

Great chat with Mlicki. Crap swing by Rosario.

Frayed Knot Aug 15 2017 12:09 AM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

Edgy MD wrote: Why did the fans explode into cheers two seconds before Céspedes connected? (And as I hit submit, Darling reports that they were cheering about Granderson's homer being thrown back. That guy gave you 2100 perfectly good plate appearances, you ungrateful jerks.) If you're going to copy the Wrigley thing and throw the HRs back, a few suggestions: a) don't b) if you insist on doing it, do it at the right time: before the next AB, NOT DURING IT!!

Edgy MD Aug 15 2017 12:17 AM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

Settle down, Raffy.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 15 2017 12:19 AM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

He's doing that thing again.

bmfc1 Aug 15 2017 12:25 AM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

I was sure that Yo was going to get the runner at the plate.

Edgy MD Aug 15 2017 12:26 AM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

I'll take the sacrifice fly there, but what a jive slide that was. Bad job setting it up by Céspedes. And the terror of the Lunchie-fortold fourth-inning explosion is minimized run-wise, if not pitch-count-wise.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 15 2017 12:26 AM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

Hey, he stopped doing that thing! Nice wrap-up to the inning for Montero.

Lefty Specialist Aug 15 2017 12:27 AM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

Geez, Montero is not a lot of fun to watch when he has one of those innings.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 15 2017 12:30 AM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

Wheeleresque. I like Montero's stuff more, though.

Frayed Knot Aug 15 2017 12:32 AM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

bmfc1 wrote: I was sure that Yo was going to get the runner at the plate. Hicks is fast but there's no way he should have scored there. I think it was one of those deals where Cespedes assumed the runner wasn't going and figured he could simply gun him out if he did try.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 15 2017 12:35 AM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

4 1/3, 66 pitches and Cessa's account is closed (save for Lagares on first). Hey, Lil' Torre-- just because your pitchers wear spring training numbers doesn't mean you have to manage like it's March.

Edgy MD Aug 15 2017 12:39 AM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

Verizon Trivia: Curtis Granderson is one of six players with 600 at-bats for both the Mets and Yankees. Who are the other five. Uh ... Rick Cerone, Rafael Santana, Darryl Strawbowski, Carlos Beltran, Elliott Maddox.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 15 2017 12:39 AM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

Nice throw by Sanchez to nail Lagares. Then he smirks like a pro wrestling villain for, like, five seconds.

Frayed Knot Aug 15 2017 12:40 AM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

Tonight's Trivia: 5 players with 500+ ABs for both Mets & Yanx? Straw Sheffield Rickey Granderson Ventura? oe (re: Edgy's answer) Beltran's a better answer than Ventura

Edgy MD Aug 15 2017 12:42 AM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

I checked my work. I got three of five.

Frayed Knot Aug 15 2017 12:48 AM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

That Dom Smith slip was one of those deals where, had it happened to a Yanx 1B at Shea, George would be complaining to the league office about inferior conditions and wanting the game results nullified. And that was in one of his more rational moods. Otherwise he'd be accusing the Mets of intentionally trying to injure his players.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 15 2017 12:51 AM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

I don't mean to blue-jeans-test the kid, but Smith doesn't exactly inspire Keithian confidence with his posture/facial expressions between pitches. Straw Sheff Rickey Vanis Takee Randolph?

Edgy MD Aug 15 2017 01:06 AM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

Match that homer, Conforto. Heck, beat that homer.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 15 2017 01:07 AM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

Yankee Stadium special on that one for Judge, who got the end of the bat on it and just muscled it out.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 15 2017 01:10 AM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

Unfortunate turn there for Señor Hunter, who's pitched a mostly-clean six (save that 4th).

Frayed Knot Aug 15 2017 01:14 AM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

The graphic listed Smith as 6' 0" / 185 ... Shyeeet, I'm 6' 0" and about 183 and he and I ain't anywhere near the same shape.

Edgy MD Aug 15 2017 01:18 AM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

Those last two pounds are the ones that really show.

cooby Aug 15 2017 01:19 AM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

As well as the previous 20

Edgy MD Aug 15 2017 01:23 AM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

Verizon Answer: Beltran Henderson Maddox Strawberry Ventura

Edgy MD Aug 15 2017 01:24 AM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

Seems like we're getting Robles every night suddenly.

Frayed Knot Aug 15 2017 01:25 AM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Aug 15 2017 01:34 AM

Four full minutes between the final pitch of Top 7 and the first pitch of Bottom 7 (double the proscribed time) all due to that whole GBA dog and pony show. If they want to insist on doing that every game AND want it televised then they shouldn't get their two minutes of commercials, and if they are desperate to run the commercials then they can still play GBA for the in-house fans. But there's no reason why they should get to do both.

Frayed Knot Aug 15 2017 01:27 AM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

Verizon Answer: Beltran Henderson Maddox Strawberry Ventura I mis-read it as 500 ABs rather than 600, that's where Rickey falls short.

bmfc1 Aug 15 2017 01:28 AM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

Absolutely right FK. It's also a little unfair to the incoming pitcher who has extra time to cool down before warming up.

Edgy MD Aug 15 2017 01:33 AM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

I guess our reliever can whiff people too.

bmfc1 Aug 15 2017 01:38 AM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

For a team that acts like it created tradition, I'm pretty sure that the PC Richards whistle didn't play when Whitey Ford struck out a batter.

Edgy MD Aug 15 2017 01:43 AM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

If ball four hits the umpire's foot and bounces off to oblivion, shouldn't the runner be boogying to first and thinking about second?

bmfc1 Aug 15 2017 01:46 AM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

Edgy MD wrote: If ball four hits the umpire's foot and bounces off to oblivion, shouldn't the runner be boogying to first and thinking about second? Definitely--maybe the catcher can't find the ball.

Edgy MD Aug 15 2017 01:49 AM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

Trying to get one inning too much maybe out of Robly.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 15 2017 01:52 AM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

Consarn it.

Centerfield Aug 15 2017 01:52 AM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

Blevins up and available. Whenever I start thinking maybe Terry deserves another year he does something like this.

bmfc1 Aug 15 2017 01:53 AM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

Terry fucks it up again by giving Robles a 2d inning when it was a fucking miracle that he got through one. Of course, a righty was leading off so there was no fucking way that Terry would put in Blevins and instead he puts the pitching version of the Trump presidency in and he throws a nothing pitch and MFYs have the lead.

Centerfield Aug 15 2017 02:00 AM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

Because 2017 can't give us one good night. Not even one. Fuck this.

Edgy MD Aug 15 2017 02:01 AM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

This park, too. We're going to have Reyes pinch-hitting for Smith in the ninth.

MFS62 Aug 15 2017 02:01 AM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

Just got here. Did any of the announcers mention that Amed Rosario tonight became the best shortstop to ever play in YS III? (or YS II for that matter).* Later * = A day without a "Fuck you, Jeter" comment is like a day without sunshine.

bmfc1 Aug 15 2017 02:04 AM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

Leave in the garbage righty reliever because a righty is up: HR Put in the solid lefty reliever because a lefty is up: out, but take him out and Put in a mediocre righty reliever because a righty is up: HR. I cannot wait for Teufel or Geren or Lopez or literally anyone else to start managing this team.

Centerfield Aug 15 2017 02:05 AM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

Everyone in the stadium knew that a second inning of Robles was a bad idea.

bmfc1 Aug 15 2017 02:06 AM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

Centerfield wrote: Everyone in the stadium knew that a second inning of Robles was a bad idea. Other than Terry.

Edgy MD Aug 15 2017 02:06 AM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

Oh, we get Betances.

cooby Aug 15 2017 02:06 AM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

Good god. Is he still a Met?

Edgy MD Aug 15 2017 02:08 AM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

Nice rocket, Wilmer. You know you're supposed to be taking, right?

Mets Willets Point Aug 15 2017 02:09 AM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

Damn.

Edgy MD Aug 15 2017 02:11 AM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

I like Rosario up right here.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 15 2017 02:14 AM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

I mean, it helps if the umps aren't expanding the zone a half-a-foot horizontally.

Frayed Knot Aug 15 2017 02:14 AM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

bmfc1 wrote: Leave in the garbage righty reliever because a righty is up: HR Put in the solid lefty reliever because a lefty is up: out, but take him out and Put in a mediocre righty reliever because a righty is up: HR. I cannot wait for Teufel or Geren or Lopez or literally anyone else to start managing this team. Hicks led off that inning and was a switch-hitter. Not sure who y'all wanted in there instead of Robles but Judge was up next so if it was going to be Blevins so as to turn Hicks around it likely would have been a one batter outing. Then came the lefty Gregorius, then the righty Sanchez so I'm open to hearing alternate scenarios for that inning. I'd tend to blame the fact that we essentially went hitless after the back-to-back HRs.

Edgy MD Aug 15 2017 02:14 AM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

Bah, crap call, rookie or no.

bmfc1 Aug 15 2017 02:15 AM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

Frayed Knot wrote: Leave in the garbage righty reliever because a righty is up: HR Put in the solid lefty reliever because a lefty is up: out, but take him out and Put in a mediocre righty reliever because a righty is up: HR. I cannot wait for Teufel or Geren or Lopez or literally anyone else to start managing this team. Hicks led off that inning and was a switch-hitter. Not sure who y'all wanted in there instead of Robles but Judge was up next so if it was going to be Blevins so as to turn Hicks around it likely would have been a one batter outing. Then came the lefty Gregorius, then the righty Sanchez so I'm open to hearing alternate scenarios for that inning. I'd tend to blame the fact that we essentially went hitless after the back-to-back HRs. Give the fact checking a rest for once, especially after a loss to those guys. Robles should never be in the game unless he is on another team. Start the inning with Blevins and (CENSORED!).

Frayed Knot Aug 15 2017 02:26 AM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

bmfc1 wrote: This is not a very good time to FUCKING FACT CHECK ME! Give it a rest for once. Robles should never be in the game unless he is on another team. Start the inning with Blevins and (CENSORED!). Hey, I'm asking for suggestions here rather than the standard reaction where every time any reliever gives up anything then Terry is automatically to blame. Fine, let's start with Blevins to face the SW Hicks and RH Judge -- but if that blew up him then we'd cite Blevins' 1100 OPS vs RHBs and declare THAT to be Terry's fault too. Seawald and/or Bradford, the two 27 y/old rookies with < 60 innings of ML time combined both of whom pitched yesterday? I like Goeddell there (1 runs allowed in last 10 outings) better than either Your second best lefty in Smoker? Like I said, I'm open to suggestions here.

Edgy MD Aug 15 2017 02:42 AM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

Facts are always good.

d'Kong76 Aug 15 2017 02:43 AM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

I have a hard time buying the blame Terry thing tonight, except the Robles overuse thing. Judge 1 HR and counting.

Zvon Aug 15 2017 03:26 AM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

Nope, looks like no IGTs for me. I checked in a few times and I was waaaaaaaay behind. Maybe up to 5 minutes. I really don't understand how that works. I guess they have to bounce the signal off a satellite or something. Still, I'll try to get in here and at least read em afterwards. Happy birthday to Jay!

Frayed Knot Aug 15 2017 01:02 PM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

Odd fact of the game: For each of the Yanx who HR'd last night [Aaron Hicks, Aaron Judge, Gary Sanchez] it was their 40th career HR

Lefty Specialist Aug 15 2017 01:28 PM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

Typical Met game. Two early solo home runs, then pfffft. Starter struggles mightily to get through 6. Bullpen gives it up. Rinse and repeat.

Frayed Knot Aug 15 2017 01:41 PM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

MLB-wide pct of solo HRs = 58.9% NYM pct of solo HRs = 68.2% Now you'd expect some kind of gap given our poor (though not bottom of the barrel) OBA, but still ...

Edgy MD Aug 15 2017 01:43 PM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

Zvon wrote: Curious that the Mets have stolen the Giants' snack trays.

Benjamin Grimm Aug 15 2017 02:01 PM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

Cast your vote!

Centerfield Aug 15 2017 02:12 PM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

Frayed Knot wrote: Leave in the garbage righty reliever because a righty is up: HR Put in the solid lefty reliever because a lefty is up: out, but take him out and Put in a mediocre righty reliever because a righty is up: HR. I cannot wait for Teufel or Geren or Lopez or literally anyone else to start managing this team. Hicks led off that inning and was a switch-hitter. Not sure who y'all wanted in there instead of Robles but Judge was up next so if it was going to be Blevins so as to turn Hicks around it likely would have been a one batter outing. Then came the lefty Gregorius, then the righty Sanchez so I'm open to hearing alternate scenarios for that inning. I'd tend to blame the fact that we essentially went hitless after the back-to-back HRs. I didn't know Hicks was a switch hitter. So that makes it less of an obvious decision. But still a switch that has to be made. Robles has been pretty good since he's been back. But he doesn't have enough pitches to mix it up, and I think leaving him in for a second inning is pushing your luck. Especially in that ballpark. It was like a carbon copy of the Colorado game, where he was able to get through one inning, but in his second inning of work, they got to him. Everyone in my house groaned as soon as they saw Robles out there to start the second inning. It looks like Edgy felt that too. Sewald has been our most reliable reliever all season. The obvious move is to start the inning with him. Sure, he pitched Sunday, but was off Saturday and has hardly been overworked. I suspect Terry was holding out Sewald and trying to stretch Robles because of the "you don't pitch your closer in a tie game on the road" rule. It's stupid. This four game series was a chance to give us some ray of sunshine in this otherwise miserable season. Fuck Terry and fuck 2017. If I were managing, Ramos would have pitched the 8th against the heart of the order. Then mix and match the rest of the way, starting with my best relievers. But I know that this is so far from convention that it's hard to ask that of anyone.

Edgy MD Aug 15 2017 02:23 PM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

Centerfield wrote: Robles has been pretty good since he's been back. But he doesn't have enough pitches to mix it up, and I think leaving him in for a second inning is pushing your luck. Especially in that ballpark. It was like a carbon copy of the Colorado game, where he was able to get through one inning, but in his second inning of work, they got to him. I'm generally in favor of riding a guy as long as you can, but he sure seemed to labor through that first inning, fighting himself at times, even if he did escape with two strikeouts. I thought, "Get him out on a positive. He's a reclamation project still trying to find his way back. And he's seen a lot of use of late. You have eight relievers. Use them. Tie games can disappear fast in this park." Of course, before I thought all that, the Yankees punched me in the nose.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 15 2017 02:39 PM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

Robles famously melted down in the last MFY series iirc. But the reason the Mets lost is that we hit like shit.

Vic Sage Aug 15 2017 02:42 PM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

Frayed Knot wrote: MLB-wide pct of solo HRs = 58.9% NYM pct of solo HRs = 68.2% Now you'd expect some kind of gap given our poor (though not bottom of the barrel) OBA, but still ... Perhaps the fact that 2 of our top HR hitters have been batting in the lead-off position much of the season has something to do with it? Even after the 1st inning, hitting after d'Arnaud and the pitcher for the rest of the game isn't going to give a guy (whether Conforto or Granderson) a lot of opportunities for 3-r HRs.

Lefty Specialist Aug 15 2017 02:47 PM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

Robles for a second inning is never a good idea, regardless of venue or opponent.

Centerfield Aug 15 2017 02:58 PM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Robles famously melted down in the last MFY series iirc. But the reason the Mets lost is that we hit like shit. Yes. Definitely. Have to muster up more than that against Cessa and the pen. My post was more: 1. Frustrated venting. 2. Realization that if we ever get good again, and have options in the pen, I certainly don't want Terry Collins managing them. Nice guy. Time for him to go.

Zvon Aug 15 2017 03:30 PM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

Edgy MD wrote: Zvon wrote: Curious that the Mets have stolen the Giants' snack trays. Lol. I think that's something left over from the Polo Grounds. What are they? Sunflower seeds?

Zvon Aug 15 2017 03:40 PM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

Wow, Google is just amazing.....

d'Kong76 Aug 15 2017 04:20 PM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

At quick glance of the dugout card I too thought that was the NY Football Giants 'logo' but Giant Snacks is a big company.

Zvon Aug 15 2017 04:43 PM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees

I learn something new everyday. I never heard of that brand. I tweeted that IN ACTION "butt dialer" card to Jay. I never get responses in such situation but I'm going to go take and look/see. Spl chk is trying to tell me there is no such word as "dialer". All you writers out there, is that true?

Benjamin Grimm Sep 15 2017 03:04 PM Re: 08/14 - Mets at Yankees