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Duda Traded to Tampa

A Boy Named Seo
Jul 27 2017 09:50 PM

All the outlets that buzz on my iPhone are now reporting. Mets get 23-year old RHP Drew Smith in return. Stats indicate he has a "live arm"

Is that enough? Better 1 good one than 3 schmoes, sez me.

MFS62
Jul 27 2017 09:52 PM
Re: Duda Traded to Tampa

Hey Abaatttt! "Who's on first"?

Later

dgwphotography
Jul 27 2017 09:54 PM
Re: Duda Traded to Tampa

MFS62 wrote:
Hey Abaatttt! "Who's on first"?

Later


Jay Bruce, come on down!

A Boy Named Seo
Jul 27 2017 09:58 PM
Re: Duda Traded to Tampa

Dom
dgwphotography wrote:
MFS62 wrote:
Hey Abaatttt! "Who's on first"?

Later


Jay Bruce, come on down!


Dom Smith, come on up.

More on Drew Smith. Described as 'high octane' relief pitcher. Mid-to-high 90's. Control issues. Welcome Bobby Parnall 2.0!

MFS62
Jul 27 2017 10:02 PM
Re: Duda Traded to Tampa

From MLB.com's minor league scouting report:
Scouting grades: Fastball: 65 | Curveball: 55 | Changeup: 40 | Control: 50 | Overall: 45
Smith had an inconsistent career at Dallas Baptist, but the Tigers, who originally drafted him, don't shy away from plus arm strength when they see it. It's come slowly, with injuries slowing him down some, but the right-hander has proven to be an effective relief prospect in his first year-plus as a pro. In late April, Smith was dealt to the Rays as the PTBNL, completing the January trade that had sent Mikie Mahtook to Detroit.

Smith is largely a fastball/breaking ball short reliever. His heater will sit comfortably in the 92-95 mph range, and he can reach back for more, all from a clean and easy delivery. He'll show an above-average curveball at times with really good snap to it, but not consistently. Smith doesn't throw his changeup enough, and he'll need to improve his feel for the pitch and use it more in the future, though he did make strides as a strike-thrower in his second full season.

That he dealt with some minor arm issues early in his career ended talk about perhaps seeing how Smith would fare in a rotation. He has all the ingredients to be an effective short reliever, with a ceiling of a future setup man.


Later

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jul 27 2017 10:14 PM
Re: Duda Traded to Tampa

Oh that's heartbreaking. Bye bye Doodoo

Nymr83
Jul 27 2017 10:24 PM
Re: Duda Traded to Tampa

maybe this is one of those deals where the Mets get the prospect and bring back Duda in November?

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jul 27 2017 10:26 PM
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Famous young flame throwing relievers acquired in Met trades:
Kane Davis!
Scott Strickland!
Edwin Almonte!
Ambiorix Burgos!

d'Kong76
Jul 27 2017 11:09 PM
Re: Duda Traded to Tampa

Sorry to see this, but it was inevitable... at least he's not a Skank, that woulda sucked.

Frayed Knot
Jul 27 2017 11:29 PM
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Tampa is currently playing the Yanx ... get him to the Bronx right NOW!!!!

41Forever
Jul 27 2017 11:29 PM
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Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 28 2017 12:30 AM

Pitched here in Grand Rapids last season.

Frayed Knot
Jul 27 2017 11:35 PM
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Drew Smith: will turn 24 at season's end.
Drafted in the 3rd round 2015 by the Tigers out of Dallas Baptist University
Dealt to Tampa in Jan 2017 as the PtbNL in exchange for 2011 1st round pick Mikie Mahtook, joined the Tampa org in late April.

John Sickels (writing today): Due to the [April] trade he’s pitched for four minor league teams this year: High-A Lakeland in the Tigers system, High-A Charlotte in the Rays system, then Double-A Montgomery and Triple-A Durham for the Rays. He’s been effective everywhere, posting a combined 1.60 ERA in 45 innings with a 40/9 K/BB and just 32 hits allowed.
Smith is listed at 6-2, 190, born September 24th, 1993. He throws hard, 93-96 MPH, with enough movement for the fastball to play higher than the radar gun reading. He also has an above-average curveball and will occasionally mix in a mediocre change-up. His control has improved this year and he could be ready for a bullpen trial soon.



We'll miss ya' big Luc! Sometimes you could be a real cool hand.

Frayed Knot
Jul 27 2017 11:37 PM
Re: Duda Traded to Tampa

Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 27 2017 11:52 PM

Nymr83 wrote:
maybe this is one of those deals where the Mets get the prospect and bring back Duda in November?


Don't see how there's any way he re-signs here. 1B is one of the two positions where the logical successor is known and (hopefully) ready to go.


oe: it just occurred to me that Duda has been traded for a guy named Smith and likely will be replaced by a guy named Smith.

A Boy Named Seo
Jul 27 2017 11:52 PM
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Me RN:

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Chad Ochoseis
Jul 28 2017 12:00 AM
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Yeah, I guess this makes more sense than keeping him for two most likely fruitless months and then risking that he'd accept a QO. But it leaves me feeling kind of blah.

I hope in 15 years the Mets bring back Old Timers Day, and that the big lug shows up and gets a standing O. And that Granderson follows him around with a video camera.

Lefty Specialist
Jul 28 2017 12:12 AM
Re: Duda Traded to Tampa

It sucks being sellers at the deadline. Go beat up on the Yankees, Lucas.

Does Dom Smith get the call now? I hope they don't play Bruce at first.

MFS62
Jul 28 2017 12:33 AM
Re: Duda Traded to Tampa

Dom Smith was not in the starting lineup for Las Vegas tonight.
Later

Frayed Knot
Jul 28 2017 02:20 AM
Re: Duda Traded to Tampa

So now I'm thinking of this trade from the other side.
Logan Morrison has been playing 1st for the Rays and is hitting for about as much power as Lucas. He (Morrison) played some OF earlier in his career but hasn't now in several years.
Corey Dickerson is the DH/OF and he's having a good year too. Brad Miller has taking some of the DH ABs vs RHPs but he's a not-so-great hitting SS so maybe that's going to be Duda's new role.

Edgy MD
Jul 28 2017 02:25 AM
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Frayed Knot
Jul 28 2017 02:42 AM
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Maybe Lucas can play SS for the Rays.
Bottom 9, 5-4 Rays, Brett Gardner on 3rd, 2 outs: Slow-footed Gary Sanchez hits a slow bouncer towards SS with 3 infielders on that side, the SS and 2B proceed to look at each other as neither went for the ball as it slowly rolled into the OF ... tie game.

bmfc1
Jul 28 2017 01:32 PM
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Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 28 2017 10:19 PM

Baseball Prospectus on Drew Smith:
Smith, previously acquired this April from the Tigers as the player to be named later in the Mikie Mahtook trade, is a reliever who can make an impact in a setup role. The 23-year-old repeats his high-lead-arm delivery well with projectable major league-average offerings. Smith offers a two-seam fastball (95-97 mph), cutter (95-96), changeup (85-87), and curve (78-80).
He gets swings and misses with the two-seamer, which displays moderate tailing action. The cutter, used only occasionally, is flatter more often than you would like, but he is still able to place it in on lefties. The changeup projects to be fringy, and the bottom that it is able to show is only effective due to Smith’s arm speed replication. The curveball, the better of his off-speeds, has big 11-5 depth and bite. The control projects to be average. All in all, the Mets received a high-probability reliever for two months of Duda. ­—Javier Barragan

[emphasis added.]

Fangraphs said:
Smith is a minor-league reliever, and for all I know those might be literally a dime a dozen, but he has plus velocity and an interesting curve, so you never know when it might click.

Ceetar
Jul 28 2017 02:47 PM
Re: Duda Traded to Tampa

A Boy Named Seo wrote:
Welcome Bobby Parnall 2.0!



Hope so. That'd be a solid return.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jul 28 2017 02:52 PM
Re: Duda Traded to Tampa

NOOOO! YOU'RE MAH BOY, BOO

Seriousamente, though, he was gone at season's end, anyway. To me, Smith feels a bit more like Vic Black 2.0, with mild control upgrade. (To be clear, that's actually a hopeful comparison.)

Vic Sage
Jul 28 2017 05:04 PM
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or he could be Addison Reed, as soon as they trade Reed.

Frayed Knot
Jul 29 2017 01:21 AM
Re: Duda Traded to Tampa

Duda HRs off Tananka in the 7th in da Bronx
Unfortunately that was just the 2nd hit for the Rays who are down 5-1

MFS62
Jul 29 2017 02:02 AM
Re: Duda Traded to Tampa

Dominic Smith is in the lineup for Las Vegas tonight. Last time I checked, he was 2-2.
Later

Edgy MD
Jul 29 2017 02:18 AM
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Two in the first.

Don't tell me Bruce and Cabrera can't play winning béisbol.

Fman99
Jul 29 2017 02:46 AM
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Will miss him, he did a tremendous job here. Sad!

Rockin' Doc
Jul 29 2017 03:40 AM
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It was inevitable that some of the multitude of veterans in their walk year on the Mets roster would have to be traded. I hat that Duda had to be one of them. I'm just glad that he wasn't traded to the Yankees. That would have been cruel and unusual punishment. Getting swapped to the Yankees would be more like punishment than being traded.

A Boy Named Seo
Jul 29 2017 05:08 PM
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IT LIVES!

https://www.instagram.com/p/BXIxtYdD3zy ... mo54&hl=en

Ceetar
Jul 29 2017 06:14 PM
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Rockin' Doc wrote:
It was inevitable that some of the multitude of veterans in their walk year on the Mets roster would have to be traded. I hat that Duda had to be one of them. I'm just glad that he wasn't traded to the Yankees. That would have been cruel and unusual punishment. Getting swapped to the Yankees would be more like punishment than being traded.


It wasn't that inevitable. In fact, it might have been the opposite. That's the silver lining of all the bad luck hitting at once, and early.

Edgy MD
Jul 29 2017 07:04 PM
Re: Duda Traded to Tampa

A Boy Named Seo wrote:
IT LIVES!

https://www.instagram.com/p/BXIxtYdD3zy ... mo54&hl=en

¡El nuevo jugador de los RAYS de TAMPA BAY!

Frayed Knot
Jul 29 2017 07:55 PM
Re: Duda Traded to Tampa

Lucas + baseball = 3rd deck in YSIII*
Tied the game in the 8th. Also 2 walks and a Sac Fly







* I noticed that BB-Ref lists the home park in the Bronx as YSIII, not 2 (or II) as most do. I previously thought only we did that, or maybe BB-Ref is another outlet that monitors this place

Edgy MD
Jul 30 2017 02:22 PM
Re: Duda Traded to Tampa

Coulda used that homer yesterday, man.

Centerfield
Jul 30 2017 07:51 PM
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I have this fear that Duda is going to turn into Daniel Murphy.

bmfc1
Jul 30 2017 10:11 PM
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They each made critical errors in the WS but I don't know Duda's opinion of gay marriage.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jul 31 2017 02:41 AM
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IT LIVES!

https://www.instagram.com/p/BXIxtYdD3zy ... mo54&hl=en

¡El nuevo jugador de los RAYS de TAMPA BAY!


It's official. And Floridian.

Ceetar
Jul 31 2017 02:27 PM
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Centerfield wrote:
I have this fear that Duda is going to turn into Daniel Murphy.


Nah, for one Duda was already better than Murphy, and Duda is unlikely to benefit from a random increase in HR because of ball changes. That change was very favorable to Murphy (and you know who else would've fucking loved it? David Wright)

Chad Ochoseis
Jul 31 2017 08:02 PM
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Centerfield wrote:
I have this fear that Duda is going to turn into Daniel Murphy.


Even if he does, at least he won't be doing it against the Mets 18 times a season.

I think it's the AL East's turn to play the NL East in 2018, so we'll get to see him for three games next year.

Benjamin Grimm
Jul 31 2017 08:05 PM
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Duda is still a free agent after the season. There's no certainty that he'll still be with the Rays in 2018.

seawolf17
Jul 31 2017 08:05 PM
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Benjamin Grimm wrote:
Duda is still a free agent after the season. There's no certainty that he'll still be with the Rays in 2018.

BRING HIM HOME, SANDY

Benjamin Grimm
Jul 31 2017 08:08 PM
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That seems unlikely.

Chad Ochoseis
Jul 31 2017 08:18 PM
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Benjamin Grimm wrote:
Duda is still a free agent after the season. There's no certainty that he'll still be with the Rays in 2018.


Good point. I'd somehow forgotten about the whole reason why the trade made sense. But fortunately, none of the other NL East teams need first basemen, at least for now.