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WBC IGT: Japan v. Cuba

Rotblatt
Mar 20 2006 09:09 PM

Fucking MLB. Not only is ESPN showing overtime of the Notre Dame & Michigan, but MLB is BROADCASTING NCAA BASEBALL ONLINE.

I mean, seriously--how hard would it be to switch feeds online?

Am I alone in thinking this is embarassing?

metirish
Mar 20 2006 09:12 PM

No you are not,hopefully next time around a major network will show the WBC, this is horseshit, I turned to ESPN at 9 just in time to see ND tie that game, I was pissed.

Rotblatt
Mar 20 2006 09:12 PM

It is live on the MLB.com radio, but jesus, get your act together.

I wonder if this would be happening if the US was in the finals . . .

metirish
Mar 20 2006 09:17 PM

It wouldn't surprise me Rotblatt, even if the US was in the fianl for ESPN to stay with the basketball, they are probably obligated too.

Willets Point
Mar 20 2006 09:21 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Mar 20 2006 09:40 PM

Wow Japan and Cuba are in double overtime.


F-ing NIT. Not even a real tournament.

Willets Point
Mar 20 2006 09:32 PM

According to Gameday, Japan's got the bases loaded with one out. Hitoshi Tamura at the plate. Meanwhile Michigan has a 3 point lead with 2 minutes left.

metirish
Mar 20 2006 09:35 PM

Thanks Willets, in the NIT ND is down 1 point with 14+ seconds left....

Willets Point
Mar 20 2006 09:35 PM

Tamura hit by pitch. Japan up 1-0.

This is killing me!

Rotblatt
Mar 20 2006 09:36 PM

Odelin comes in and hits Tamura. Japan up 1-0.

MiniKnight
Mar 20 2006 09:37 PM

Michigan wins the WBC with a 3-pointer!

metirish
Mar 20 2006 09:37 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Mar 20 2006 09:38 PM

Game freaking over..Michigan wins.....now lets go ESPN to the WBC....this is a load of bollox.

Willets Point
Mar 20 2006 09:38 PM

Let's have some f-ing baseball please!!!!!

metirish
Mar 20 2006 09:38 PM

]Michigan wins the WBC with a 3-pointer!


Nice

Rotblatt
Mar 20 2006 09:39 PM

Satozaki strikes out on three pitches.

Sounds ugly.

metirish
Mar 20 2006 09:39 PM

A quick hook for the Cuban starter......

ScarletKnight41
Mar 20 2006 09:42 PM

Ichiro scores Japan's second run on a bases loaded walk.

Willets Point
Mar 20 2006 09:43 PM

I get a happy feeling every time they say "Chibba Lotte Marines, Bobby Valentine's club."

metirish
Mar 20 2006 09:48 PM

Yeah and you know Bobby loves this, wasn''t he laughed at in some queaters when he said that the standard of ball played in Japan was very high and that he felt they would hold there own in a 7 games series against a MLB team after his team won the Japan title?

why don't I have a Rick Aguilera pic?, I had Ron Hunt.

Willets Point
Mar 20 2006 09:48 PM

Cuba's going through pitchers like they're going out of style. Japan up 4-0 in the middle of the 1st.

metirish
Mar 20 2006 09:52 PM

Cuba with a bomb of a homer....smoking

Willets Point
Mar 20 2006 09:55 PM

In the reactions shots from Havana the guy right in front of the camera has an American flag on his t-shirt. Interesting.

metirish
Mar 20 2006 09:57 PM

Poor guy will probably not be in the next shot form Havana.

Willets Point
Mar 20 2006 10:06 PM

You're right! He is gone. Scary. I hope he just went for a beer.

Rotblatt
Mar 20 2006 10:16 PM

Matsusaka is filthy tonight.

Holy shit.

Giving up that dinger clearly pissed him off. He's struck out 4 of the last 5 batters in just nasty fashion. His splitter, slider & fastball are all just popping.

Good stuff.

Rotblatt
Mar 20 2006 10:39 PM

Ramirez hits a loooong double to left field--he turned around quick on a 94 mph fastball from Matsuzaka.

Matsuzaka's fastball looks pretty straight. When he locates it, he seems pretty safe, but when he misses up in the zone, they're handling it pretty well.

Willets Point
Mar 20 2006 10:44 PM

Joe Morgan has a limited vocabulary, doesn't he.

Johnny Dickshot
Mar 20 2006 10:48 PM

You can tell Matusaka is a highly respected pitcher because he's wearing No. 18.

18 is the # reserved for stud pitchers in Japan.

Why? I don;t know.

metirish
Mar 20 2006 11:03 PM

5 to 1 now for Japan, looks like curtains for Cuba.

Rotblatt
Mar 20 2006 11:07 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Mar 20 2006 11:15 PM

Willets Point wrote:
Joe Morgan has a limited vocabulary, doesn't he.


You're right, but I'm kind of loving Morgan tonight.

I think it's interesting when he breaks down a hitter's swing, and the point about Ichiro running straight up the third base line to block the line of sight of the third baseman was nifty. I don't know that i would have picked up on that.

J-A-P-A-N JAPAN!!!

Nymr83
Mar 20 2006 11:09 PM

="Willets Point"]You're right! He is gone. Scary. I hope he just went for a beer.


Highly unlikely. I hope he went to change shirts... but i don't find that very likely either.

metirish
Mar 20 2006 11:10 PM

yeah right now he is probably being ' re-educated' on all things Fidel...

Willets Point
Mar 20 2006 11:19 PM

Ironically, Cuba has a shortage of lefties.

Willets Point
Mar 20 2006 11:21 PM

It looks like Watanabe bounces the ball of the mound as he pitches.

Nymr83
Mar 20 2006 11:30 PM

Willets Point wrote:
Ironically, Cuba has a shortage of lefties.


maybe we can help them out, i propose we allow freedom loving Cubans to come here in exchange for an equal number of crazy lefties like Noam Chomsky and Michael Moore.

Willets Point
Mar 20 2006 11:33 PM

Gourriel is wicked fast!

Johnny Dickshot
Mar 20 2006 11:37 PM

Big DP for Japan.

Rotblatt
Mar 20 2006 11:40 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Mar 20 2006 11:44 PM

Some great defense happening in this game. Ogasawara lays out to stop Enriquez's sharp grounder to right, then flips to Watanabe.

Pedroso nailed Satozaki & Kawasaki despite picture-perfect drag bunts.

Paret with a leap to rob Ichiro of a double.

I'm missing a play or two by Enriquez, but damn do these guys have some chops.

on edit: ah, that's right--Pedroso nailed Kawasaki on the drag bunt, but Enriquez got Kawasaki on HIS bunt.

Good game. I'm totally rooting for Japan, but I'm glad Cuba's back in this.

metirish
Mar 20 2006 11:41 PM

Both teams can play , great to watch.

Willets Point
Mar 20 2006 11:46 PM

Why are they still showing the Roger Clemens WBC add?

metirish
Mar 20 2006 11:48 PM

Japan can't catch the ball right now....WOW

Centerfield
Mar 20 2006 11:49 PM

Ichiro puts an end to that madness.

Frayed Knot
Mar 20 2006 11:49 PM

Just as you guys start to praise their defense ...

Rotblatt
Mar 20 2006 11:51 PM

I know, that was totally my bad.

They're lucky they got out of that inning.

Zvon
Mar 20 2006 11:54 PM

metirish wrote:
Japan can't catch the ball right now....WOW


yea,...errors kill but they dodged afew bullets there.

Good game-good baseball.

Hope Cuba comes back just to make it more exciting.

Willets Point
Mar 21 2006 12:03 AM

Nice percussion in the ballpark right now.

metirish
Mar 21 2006 12:08 AM

Smoking...

Willets Point
Mar 21 2006 12:09 AM

El Kaboom!

Zvon
Mar 21 2006 12:14 AM

Willets Point wrote:
El Kaboom!


yep-thats what im talkin bout.

a one run game in the 9th. :)

Willets Point
Mar 21 2006 12:22 AM

2-run game now. Japan gets an insurance run.

metirish
Mar 21 2006 12:23 AM

yeah tough play at the plate but the right call....

Rotblatt
Mar 21 2006 12:26 AM

An amazing block by Pestano but an even more amazing slide by Kawasaki.

I thought Pestano had him, but it looks like Kawasaki slid his hand in there.

Crazy.

Willets Point
Mar 21 2006 12:27 AM

Miller & Morgan are suggesting Ichiro get WBC MVP. I disagree. Seung-Yeop Lee had an awesome tournament for the 6-1 Korean team.

metirish
Mar 21 2006 12:29 AM

Japan plates two more runners....9 to 5 Japan......

Zvon
Mar 21 2006 12:30 AM

Japan breakin it open.
9-5.Wow.

Willets Point
Mar 21 2006 12:34 AM

Rats! I was hoping Cuba would have the tying runs on base in the bottom of the 9th, just for the drama.

Zvon
Mar 21 2006 12:56 AM

Willets Point wrote:
Rats! I was hoping Cuba would have the tying runs on base in the bottom of the 9th, just for the drama.


Me 2, cuz i really dont care who wins.

And Cuba came out sluggin...but they are down to their last out.

Willets Point
Mar 21 2006 12:59 AM

Congratulations to Japan the first ever World Baseball Classic champion.

What an awesome tournament.

Rotblatt
Mar 21 2006 01:01 AM

How fucking classy is that? Cuba coming out to shake the hands of the Japan team during their celebration.

I love that.

Great game, great tournament. Next spring is going to be awfully dull by comparison.

Willets Point
Mar 21 2006 01:03 AM

Japanese pitcher Daisuke Matsuzaka is WBC MVP.

Zvon
Mar 21 2006 01:04 AM

Willets Point wrote:
Congratulations to Japan the first ever World Baseball Classic champion.

What an awesome tournament.


It was enjoyable.
But its baseball- how could it not be?

Willets Point
Mar 21 2006 01:06 AM

I was not among the naysayers but even I have had my expectations exceeded. Hooray for baseball!

Johnny Dickshot
Mar 21 2006 07:15 AM

I fell asleep while Japan piled it on in the 9th. Newsday this morning asserts Matsuzaka is "likely to join the Yankees in the next few years."

Yancy Street Gang
Mar 21 2006 08:55 AM

I was a nay-sayer but now I'm a yay-sayer.

Hopefully next time around there will be more television coverage.

holychicken
Mar 21 2006 09:17 AM

I don't see how anyone could REALLY have been a naysayer about this tournement. I mean, come on, it is a bunch of allstar teams actually playing for something. Nothing like the meaningless allstar game mid-season. . .these were guys playing for their countries and a lot of them REALLY wanted to play for their countries.

Other than the fact that Cuba brought the game to a stand still in the 9th inning with what seemed like 15 pitching changes and the pitcher stepping off the mound after every pitch, that game was a lot of fun. Cuba never stopped battling back and it looked like, for a moment, we were going to have a really exciting 9th inning.

I am definitely looking forward to this tournament again.

Yancy Street Gang
Mar 21 2006 09:27 AM

Here's why I was a nay-sayer:

1. I saw it as an exhibition series. I had no idea (though I should have) that the players and the fans, especially in Latin America, would take it so seriously.

2. A U.S. victory would have meant nothing to me. I am proud to be a U.S. citizen, but the source of that pride has nothing to do with the achievements of athletes. I assumed, wrongly again, that most others would feel the same way.

But I was wrong and Bud Selig was right. (Holy crap!) The next couple of springs will be dull without the WBC.

Elster88
Mar 21 2006 09:37 AM

holychicken wrote:
I don't see how anyone could REALLY have been a naysayer about this tournement.


There WERE lots OF good REASONINGS in OTHER threads. If YOU want TO really SEE them, YOU should DO a LITTLE research.

metirish
Mar 21 2006 10:02 AM

I guess they love doing this in Japan....don't drop the legend.

Willets Point
Mar 21 2006 10:14 AM

All-Tourney team
C Tomoya Satozaki (Japan)
1B Seung Yeop Lee (Korea)
2B Yulieski Gourriel (Cuba)
SS Derek Jeter (USA)
3B Adrian Beltre (Dominican Republic)
OF Ken Griffey Jr. (USA)
OF Ichiro Suzuki (Japan)
OF Jong Beom Lee (Korea)
DH Yoandy Garlobo (Cuba)
P Daisuke Matsuzaka (Japan)
P Chan Ho Park (Korea)
P Yadel Marti (Cuba)

cooby
Mar 21 2006 10:16 AM

So, did the American Flag shirt guy ever come back?

holychicken
Mar 21 2006 10:19 AM

Elster88 wrote:
There WERE lots OF good REASONINGS in OTHER threads. If YOU want TO really SEE them, YOU should DO a LITTLE research.

Lordy, give me a break. I capitalized on word twice and you tweak. Sorry, I will make sure italicize it next time so I don't get an unnecessarily obnoxious response.

But anyway. . . the only "good" reason I read that it would suck was that people would not be prepared. The only team that wasn't really prepared was the US.

All the other reasons were concerns, not reasons to not be excited about it.

Elster88
Mar 21 2006 10:26 AM

holychicken wrote:
="Elster88"]There WERE lots OF good REASONINGS in OTHER threads. If YOU want TO really SEE them, YOU should DO a LITTLE research.

Lordy, give me a break. I capitalized on word twice and you tweak. Sorry, I will make sure italicize it next time so I don't get an unnecessarily obnoxious response.


Take it easy.

Willets Point
Mar 21 2006 10:44 AM

cooby wrote:
So, did the American Flag shirt guy ever come back?


I never saw him again, but I think the camera also moved to a different location.

holychicken
Mar 21 2006 10:50 AM

]Take it easy.

I am not taking it hard at all, I just found the response a little unnecessary, that is all.

Elster88
Mar 21 2006 10:51 AM

Eh.

Edgy DC
Mar 21 2006 12:07 PM

Oh has a flatter stomache than he had in his playing days.

Sadaharu, by the way, was all about the Benny Agbayani leg kick:

Nymr83
Mar 21 2006 12:17 PM

Edgy DC wrote:

Sadaharu, by the way, was all about the Benny Agbayani leg kick:


I would guess thats the other way around.

Rotblatt
Mar 21 2006 12:41 PM

During one of the Japan games, a commentator who interviewed Oh talked about his leg kick.

Oh, who was only 5'9", based his stance off of two things--aikido & a pitcher's wind-up. The thought was that pitcher's used their wind-ups to generate velocity on their pitches, and why shouldn't the batter do the same thing.

If you look at a clip of Oh batting, it just looks so easy for him to hit dingers.

Check out Aaron v. Oh in [url=http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/news/mlb_news.jsp?ymd=20021106&content_id=171407&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp]Clash of the home run kings[/url].

More clips [url=http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/events/japan_series/history.jsp]here[/url].

metirish
Mar 21 2006 12:43 PM

I wonder if Sandra Oh is related to Sadaharu ....

Willets Point
Mar 21 2006 12:57 PM

Is that a parachute drop behind left field? That would be one hell of a way to watch a game.

Centerfield
Mar 21 2006 01:09 PM

metirish wrote:
I wonder if Sandra Oh is related to Sadaharu ....


Given a choice, I think I would rather kiss Sadaharu...