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BLC: Beatles vs. the Rolling Stones

Edgy DC Mar 22 2006 10:31 PM

Looking to claim the top rung with: "Help!" "Revolution" "A Day in the Life" "Strawberry Fields Forever" "Norwegian Wood (This Bird Has Flown)" "Paperback Writer" "You've Got to Hide Your Love Away" "She Said, She Said" "A Hard Day's Night" "Ticket to Ride"

HahnSolo Mar 23 2006 10:03 AM

Now this is a challenge.

Willets Point Mar 23 2006 10:04 AM

9 Stones originals: Paint it Black Let’s Spend the Night Together Sympathy for the Devil Gimme Shelter Midnight Rambler (Live) No Expectations Wild Horses Street Fighting Man Shattered And just for shits & giggles, a Lennon-McCartney composition: I Wanna Be Your Man

cooby Mar 23 2006 10:05 AM

And sung by Ringo

Edgy DC Mar 23 2006 10:15 AM

The Beatles vs. =darkred]The Rolling Stones "Help!" vs. "Paint it Black" "Revolution" vs. "Let’s Spend the Night Together" "A Day in the Life" vs. "Sympathy for the Devil" "Strawberry Fields Forever" vs. "Gimme Shelter" "Norwegian Wood (This Bird Has Flown)" vs. "Midnight Rambler (Live)" "Paperback Writer" vs. "No Expectations" "You've Got to Hide Your Love Away" vs. "Wild Horses" "She Said, She Said" vs. "Street Fighting Man" "A Hard Day's Night"" vs. "Shattered" "Ticket to Ride" vs. "I Wanna Be Your Man"

Johnny Dickshot Mar 23 2006 10:16 AM

Picayune question: Does the silly "must challenge another band prior to a rematch challenge" rule apply to the winner and/or loser here? The way I see this going, we'll have lots of tight 2, 3 and 4-band pileups where movement is restricted.

Willets Point Mar 23 2006 10:21 AM

Dunno. I'm pretty much going to accept the winner of this matchup as final and won't challenge the Beatles if the Stones lose.

Edgy DC Mar 23 2006 10:21 AM

Well, the rule is "must have another victory before demanding a rematch." It can be a defensive victory The reason I suggest the rule (and the other silly one, "no challenging above a band that has defeated you") is to reduce less-than-serious challenges. This forum is already turning into the BLC forum as it is. Else, I can have the Heartbreakers rechallenge the Stones every other day just hoping to get lucky sometime after peeps get tired of voting against me, ignore the thread, and I eventually win the war of attrition 16-14. We're deciding big questions. There must be gravity.

cooby Mar 23 2006 10:28 AM

"Help!" vs. "Paint it Black" Rolling Stones "Revolution" vs. "Let’s Spend the Night Together" Beatles "A Day in the Life" vs. "Sympathy for the Devil" Beatles "Strawberry Fields Forever" vs. "Gimme Shelter" Beatles "Norwegian Wood (This Bird Has Flown)" vs. "Midnight Rambler (Live)" Rolling Stones "Paperback Writer" vs. "No Expectations" Beatles "You've Got to Hide Your Love Away" vs. "Wild Horses" Rolling Stones "She Said, She Said" vs. "Street Fighting Man" ROlling Stones "A Hard Day's Night"" vs. "Shattered" Rolling Stones "Ticket to Ride" vs. "I Wanna Be Your Man" Rolling Stones Rolling Stones 6 Beatles 4

Willets Point Mar 23 2006 10:28 AM

"Help!"vs."Paint it Black" The Rolling Stones "Revolution"vs."Let’s Spend the Night Together" Tie "A Day in the Life"vs."Sympathy for the Devil" Tie "Strawberry Fields Forever"vs."Gimme Shelter" The Beatles "Norwegian Wood (This Bird Has Flown)"vs."Midnight Rambler (Live)" The Beatles "Paperback Writer"vs."No Expectations" The Rolling Stones "You've Got to Hide Your Love Away"vs."Wild Horses" The Beatles "She Said, She Said"vs."Street Fighting Man" The Rolling Stones "A Hard Day's Night""vs."Shattered" The Beatles "Ticket to Ride"vs."I Wanna Be Your Man" Tie The Beatles 5.5:4.5 The Rolling Stones

HahnSolo Mar 23 2006 10:35 AM

"Help!"vs."Paint it Black" STONES "Revolution"vs."Let’s Spend the Night Together" BEATLES "A Day in the Life"vs."Sympathy for the Devil" BEATLES "Strawberry Fields Forever"vs."Gimme Shelter" STONES "Norwegian Wood (This Bird Has Flown)"vs."Midnight Rambler (Live)" STONES "Paperback Writer"vs."No Expectations" BEATLES "You've Got to Hide Your Love Away"vs."Wild Horses" BEATLES "She Said, She Said"vs."Street Fighting Man" STONES "A Hard Day's Night""vs."Shattered" BEATLES "Ticket to Ride"vs."I Wanna Be Your Man" BEATLES A tight, 6-4 win for the Beatles

Edgy DC Mar 23 2006 10:43 AM

Going in, I'm thinking, "Good lineup by Willets, but, well, that 'Ticket to Ride'/'I Wanna Be Your Man' matchup should swing my way," and here we are tied 1-1-1 on that one. Nothing is predictable here in the BLC.

ScarletKnight41 Mar 23 2006 10:44 AM

"Help!" vs. "Paint it Black" - Beatles "Revolution" vs. "Let’s Spend the Night Together" - Stones "A Day in the Life" vs. "Sympathy for the Devil" - Beatles "Strawberry Fields Forever" vs. "Gimme Shelter" - Beatles "Norwegian Wood (This Bird Has Flown)" vs. "Midnight Rambler (Live)" - Beatles "Paperback Writer" vs. "No Expectations" - Beatles "You've Got to Hide Your Love Away" vs. "Wild Horses" - Beatles "She Said, She Said" vs. "Street Fighting Man" - Beatles "A Hard Day's Night"" vs. "Shattered" - Beatles "Ticket to Ride" vs. "I Wanna Be Your Man" - Stones Beatles - 8 Stones - 2

sharpie Mar 23 2006 10:45 AM

"Help!"vs."Paint it Black" Stones "Revolution"vs."Let’s Spend the Night Together" Beatles "A Day in the Life"vs."Sympathy for the Devil" Beatles "Strawberry Fields Forever"vs."Gimme Shelter" My favorite songs by each of these bands. Tie "Norwegian Wood (This Bird Has Flown)"vs."Midnight Rambler (Live)" Beatles. Big win. "Paperback Writer"vs."No Expectations" Beatles. A rare Paul-song sighting. "You've Got to Hide Your Love Away"vs."Wild Horses" Stones. "You've Got to..." is one of my least favorite John ballads. Bad Dylan. "She Said, She Said"vs."Street Fighting Man" Beatles. George's lead intro is one of the most exciting things I've ever heard. "A Hard Day's Night""vs."Shattered" Stones (I tend to vote for songs I've parodied) - though I do love Hard Day's Night also. "Ticket to Ride"vs."I Wanna Be Your Man" Beatles. Stupid Stones choice - John + Paul tossed this one off in half an hour sitting on a couch backstage 'cause Mick asked them to write a song for him. Bob Dylan sort of covered it as well. Beatles 6.5 Stones 3.5

Edgy DC Mar 23 2006 10:48 AM

Now 2-2-1 in "Ticket to Ride" vs. "I Wanna Be Your Man."

sharpie Mar 23 2006 10:52 AM

Maybe "I Wanna Be Your Man" has female appeal as Cooby and Scarlett voted for it. I don't understand the vote, however. "Ticket to Ride" is a masterpiece.

Willets Point Mar 23 2006 11:06 AM

It should be noted it was a deliberately stupid choice in honor of the competitor.

cooby Mar 23 2006 11:08 AM

I like that song. It is now running through my head. Although Ringo is singing it

Edgy DC Mar 23 2006 11:10 AM

Yeah, I know and respect the Ringo appeal, but, of course, we're voting on the Stones recording.

cooby Mar 23 2006 11:12 AM

Yes yes, I know, but I can't help what happens in my head

sharpie Mar 23 2006 11:29 AM

The Beatles version is better but still... In an interview they asked John what he thought about "With a Little Help From My Friends" and he said "well, we gave it to Ringo to sing so that's saying something."

Edgy DC Mar 23 2006 11:51 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Mar 23 2006 12:00 PM

I always thought "When I'm 64" would have been an ideal Ringo selection for Sgt Pepper. Similarly, he should have sung "Honey Pie" on The Beatles instead of "Good Night."

soupcan Mar 23 2006 11:55 AM

="sharpie"]In an interview they asked John what he thought about "With a Little Help From My Friends" and he said "well, we gave it to Ringo to sing so that's saying something." Ha-ha dead John Lennon, guess Ringo got the last laugh there, huh? "Help!" vs. "Paint it Black" THE BEATLES "Revolution" vs. "Let’s Spend the Night Together" TIE "A Day in the Life" vs. "Sympathy for the Devil" THE ROLLING STONES "Strawberry Fields Forever" vs. "Gimme Shelter" THE ROLLING STONES "Norwegian Wood (This Bird Has Flown)" vs. "Midnight Rambler (Live)" THE ROLLING STONES "Paperback Writer" vs. "No Expectations" THE BEATLES "You've Got to Hide Your Love Away" vs. "Wild Horses" THE ROLLING STONES "She Said, She Said" vs. "Street Fighting Man" THE ROLLING STONES "A Hard Day's Night"" vs. "Shattered" TIE - I dig 'Shattered' the most and 'A Hard Days Night is really what I love about the Beatles. "Ticket to Ride" vs. "I Wanna Be Your Man" THE BEATLES THE ROLLING STONES - 6 / THE BEATLES - 4 This was tough. Nothing to do with the Stones but I've just been reminded of it:: There is a great deleted scene on the Pulp Fiction DVD. Vincent and Mia have a conversation when Vincent comes to pick her up prior to going to Jackrabbit Slim's. Mia asks Vince if he is a 'Beatles Man' or an 'Elvis Man', because, as she proceeds to explain, EVERYONE is one or the other, not both. Vincent, as it turns out, is of course an Elvis Man. In the next scene which is included in the movie, when Vincent questions the type of place they are going to eat, she replies that an Elvis Man will love it.

Elster88 Mar 23 2006 12:04 PM

The most recent Pulp Fiction release is excellent. It's a two disc set. Included is one subtitle track with information along the lines of "Pop-Up Video".

sharpie Mar 23 2006 12:05 PM

]Similarly, he should have sung "Honey Pie" on The Beatles instead of "Good Night." Then he would've sung both "Honey Pie" and "Honey Don't."

Edgy DC Mar 23 2006 12:08 PM

But not "A Taste of Honey" or "Wild Honey Pie."

ScarletKnight41 Mar 23 2006 12:09 PM

]Yes yes, I know, but I can't help what happens in my head Plus, in my head, Ticket to Ride is corrupted by The Carpenters' cover version.

cooby Mar 23 2006 12:15 PM

Now Ticket to Ride is going through my head. Beatles, thankfully

Edgy DC Mar 23 2006 12:15 PM

So because a cut-rate Beatles track beats a top-shelf Carpenters track, it works against the Beatles in this contest. Circles within circles...

sharpie Mar 23 2006 12:16 PM

I think you meant a top-shelf Beatles track and a cut-rate Carpenters track.

Edgy DC Mar 23 2006 12:24 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Mar 23 2006 01:45 PM

Well, no, if I'm reading the circles right in the heads of voters, a cut-rate Beatles track ("I Wanna Be Your Man") is superior to a top-shelf Carpenters track ("Ticket to Ride"), so it's counting against the Beatles in the actual contest of a top-shelf Beatles track ("Ticket to Ride") against a near-cut-rate Stones track ("I Wanna Be Your Man"). I don't want to complain. Peeps vote for all sorts of reasons (Soupcan, based on the soundtrack of his sex life, for instance), but it sure reveals Willets Point as a genius.

soupcan Mar 23 2006 12:44 PM

Elster88 wrote: The most recent Pulp Fiction release is excellent. It's a two disc set. Included is one subtitle track with information along the lines of "Pop-Up Video". That's pretty cool. Gimme a nugget or two of something I didn't know...

Elster88 Mar 23 2006 12:47 PM

Can't remember any off the top of my head. I'd have to watch it again. And I will. Edit: Ohh, here's a good one. The guy who plays the bartender in the scene right after Marcellius gives Butch the bribe was originally going to play Jules. He was actually promised the part verbally. But Samuel L. Jackson was convinced by someone (not remembering who) to read once more, and he read the diner scene from the end of the movie. He "blew them away", as they say in Hollywood, and was given the part. I'm sooooo glad they convinced him to come back and read for the part again. The movie wouldn't be the same otherwise. Maybe this should go in a Pulp Fiction thread on the movie forum.

Edgy DC Mar 23 2006 01:24 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Mar 23 2006 01:46 PM

My brother's back at home with his Beatles and his Stones. Help!" vs. "Paint it Black" Beatles "Revolution" vs. "Let’s Spend the Night Together" Beatles "A Day in the Life" vs. "Sympathy for the Devil" Tie "Strawberry Fields Forever" vs. "Gimme Shelter" Beatles "Norwegian Wood (This Bird Has Flown)" vs. "Midnight Rambler (Live)" Beatles Battering "Paperback Writer" vs. "No Expectations" Tie "You've Got to Hide Your Love Away" vs. "Wild Horses" Good matchup. Beatles "She Said, She Said" vs. "Street Fighting Man" Beatles "A Hard Day's Night"" vs. "Shattered" Beatles "Ticket to Ride" vs. "I Wanna Be Your Man" Beatles 9-1. Most were close. I almost threw "Sympathy" to the Stones, then I thought of the bridge to "A Day in the Life."

Zvon Mar 23 2006 01:40 PM

"Help!" vs."Paint it Black" BEATLES "Revolution" vs."Let’s Spend the Night Together" BEATLES "A Day in the Life" vs."Sympathy for the Devil" BEATLES "Strawberry Fields Forever" vs."Gimme Shelter" BEATLES "Norwegian Wood (This Bird Has Flown)" vs."Midnight Rambler (Live)" BEATLES "Paperback Writer" vs."No Expectations" BEATLES "You've Got to Hide Your Love Away" vs."Wild Horses" BEATLES "She Said, She Said" vs."Street Fighting Man" BEATLES "A Hard Day's Night"" vs."Shattered" BEATLES "Ticket to Ride" vs."I Wanna Be Your Man" BEATLES The Beatles- 10 The Rolling Stones- 0 Dont get me wrong- Im a fan of the Stones. But the Beatles get the edge every time in my book.

soupcan Mar 23 2006 01:53 PM

Zvon wrote: Dont get me wrong- Im a fan of the Stones. But the Beatles get the edge every time in my book. 10-0? Not a very big fan I see.

Johnny Dickshot Mar 23 2006 02:59 PM

"Help!" vs."Paint it Black" --Stones "Revolution" vs."Let’s Spend the Night Together" --Beatles, close one "A Day in the Life" vs."Sympathy for the Devil" --Beatles "Strawberry Fields Forever" vs."Gimme Shelter" --Stones, close one "Norwegian Wood (This Bird Has Flown)" vs."Midnight Rambler (Live)" --Beatles "Paperback Writer" vs."No Expectations" --Beatles. Close one. "You've Got to Hide Your Love Away" vs."Wild Horses" --Beatles. WH = Boring. "She Said, She Said" vs."Street Fighting Man" --Beatles. Killer. Can't understand why SS SS loses to anything. "A Hard Day's Night"" vs."Shattered" --Stones "Ticket to Ride" vs."I Wanna Be Your Man" --Beatles Beatles 7, Stones 3

Elster88 Mar 23 2006 03:01 PM

Zvon wrote: Dont get me wrong- Im a fan of the Stones. But the Beatles get the edge every time in my book. Did you actually go through and compare the individual songs in each matchup and pick a matchup winner? Or did you just say to yourself, "I like the Beatles better, so they win each matchup". One of these methods is correct. The other is not.

RealityChuck Mar 23 2006 03:36 PM

"Help!" vs. "Paint it Black" -- Beatles "Revolution" vs. "Let’s Spend the Night Together" -- Beatles "A Day in the Life" vs. "Sympathy for the Devil" -- Stones "Strawberry Fields Forever" vs. "Gimme Shelter" -- Stones "Norwegian Wood (This Bird Has Flown)" vs. "Midnight Rambler (Live)" -- Beatles "Paperback Writer" vs. "No Expectations" -- Stones "You've Got to Hide Your Love Away" vs. "Wild Horses" -- tie "She Said, She Said" vs. "Street Fighting Man" -- Stones "A Hard Day's Night"" vs. "Shattered" -- Beatles "Ticket to Ride" vs. "I Wanna Be Your Man" -- Beatles 5-4 Beatles

Vic Sage Mar 23 2006 05:44 PM

"Help!" vs. "Paint it Black" -- Beatles "Revolution" vs. "Let’s Spend the Night Together" -- Beatles "A Day in the Life" vs. "Sympathy for the Devil" -- Stones "Strawberry Fields Forever" vs. "Gimme Shelter" -- Stones "Norwegian Wood (This Bird Has Flown)" vs. "Midnight Rambler (Live)" -- Beatles "Paperback Writer" vs. "No Expectations" -- Stones "You've Got to Hide Your Love Away" vs. "Wild Horses" -- Beatles "She Said, She Said" vs. "Street Fighting Man" -- Stones "A Hard Day's Night"" vs. "Shattered" -- Beatles "Ticket to Ride" vs. "I Wanna Be Your Man" -- Beatles 6-4 Beatles

metirish Mar 23 2006 05:51 PM

"Help!" vs. "Paint it Black" Rolling Stones "Revolution" vs. "Let’s Spend the Night Together" Beatles "A Day in the Life" vs. "Sympathy for the Devil" Beatles "Strawberry Fields Forever" vs. "Gimme Shelter" Beatles "Norwegian Wood (This Bird Has Flown)" vs. "Midnight Rambler (Live)" Rolling Stones "Paperback Writer" vs. "No Expectations" Beatles "You've Got to Hide Your Love Away" vs. "Wild Horses" Rolling Stones "She Said, She Said" vs. "Street Fighting Man" Rolling Stones "A Hard Day's Night"" vs. "Shattered" - Beatles "Ticket to Ride" vs. "I Wanna Be Your Man" - Beatles Beatles 6 - Stones - 4

Edgy DC Mar 23 2006 06:04 PM

Itemized ballot from Vic Sage. Excelente.

Edgy DC Mar 23 2006 06:06 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Mar 23 2006 07:47 PM

Dickshot enigmatically gives us "Listen to Her Heart" over "Paint it Black" in the Heartbreakers/Stones matchup, but not "Help!" over "Paint It Black" in the this one.

sharpie Mar 23 2006 06:19 PM

Ergo, Dickshot likes "Listen to Her Heart" better than "Help!"

Edgy DC Mar 23 2006 06:22 PM

That's it! I've got to challenge the Beatles with the Heartbreakers.

Zvon Mar 23 2006 07:43 PM

Elster88 wrote: ="Zvon"]Dont get me wrong- Im a fan of the Stones. But the Beatles get the edge every time in my book. Did you actually go through and compare the individual songs in each matchup and pick a matchup winner? Or did you just say to yourself, "I like the Beatles better, so they win each matchup". One of these methods is correct. The other is not. Yes, I actually went thru and compared the individual songs and picked the song I like better. As I do I all a these music things. Thnx 4 yer concern.

Willets Point Mar 24 2006 10:35 AM

48 hours are up on this one.

Edgy DC Mar 24 2006 01:27 PM

I show Beatles, 77.5-42.5. We have a new leader here at Daytona.

Edgy DC Mar 24 2006 01:29 PM

Actually, no, the Stones list didn't go up until Thursday at 10, so, going by 48 weekday hours, this is still hot until Monday at 10.

Rotblatt Mar 24 2006 01:45 PM

Good matchup. I'm going to sink my teeth into this over the weekend, I think. For both bands, there are so many just amazing songs, I almost feel cheated by the lineups, even though they're all good choices.

Rotblatt Mar 27 2006 07:33 AM

"Help!" vs. "Paint it Black" Stones "Revolution" vs. "Let’s Spend the Night Together" Beatles "A Day in the Life" vs. "Sympathy for the Devil" Ouch. Tough one. Beatles. "Strawberry Fields Forever" vs. "Gimme Shelter" Stones "Norwegian Wood (This Bird Has Flown)" vs. "Midnight Rambler (Live)" Beatles "Paperback Writer" vs. "No Expectations" Stones "You've Got to Hide Your Love Away" vs. "Wild Horses" Beatles "She Said, She Said" vs. "Street Fighting Man" Ouch. Beatles. "A Hard Day's Night"" vs. "Shattered" - Stones "Ticket to Ride" vs. "I Wanna Be Your Man" - Beatles Beatles 6, Stones 4.

Willets Point Mar 27 2006 10:59 AM

This one is ovah! The king is dead, long live the king.