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IGT, AL Wild Card, MIN @ MFY, 10/3/17

bmfc1 Oct 01 2017 10:47 PM

Go Twins Go! It's Santana (!!!) against Severino.

Mets Willets Point Oct 02 2017 12:09 AM Re: IGT, AL Wild Card, MIN @ MFY, 10/3/17

The question here is not, are the Twins going to lose, but, by how many runs are the Twins going to lose?

MFS62 Oct 02 2017 12:35 AM Re: IGT, AL Wild Card, MIN @ MFY, 10/3/17

Mets Willets Point wrote: The question here is not, are the Twins going to lose, but, by how many runs are the Twins going to lose? This. Later

seawolf17 Oct 02 2017 12:45 AM Re: IGT, AL Wild Card, MIN @ MFY, 10/3/17

Mets Willets Point wrote: The question here is not, are the Twins going to lose, but, by how many runs are the Twins going to lose? Seriously. Our only hope is that they let Bartolo pitch the bottom of the 8th as a final farewell to baseball when they're down by two touchdowns.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 02 2017 12:48 AM Re: IGT, AL Wild Card, MIN @ MFY, 10/3/17

Mets Willets Point wrote: The question here is not, are the Twins going to lose, but, by how many runs are the Twins going to lose? They'll lose by one but only after giving the MFYs a five-run inning by blowing an easy double play that would have ended it scoreless.

Frayed Knot Oct 02 2017 01:14 AM Re: IGT, AL Wild Card, MIN @ MFY, 10/3/17 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 02 2017 01:14 AM

The good thing about baseball is that, in a short series or a single game, you never know. Unfortunately with these two teams, ya kinda do know. In the Reg Season over the last 10 years (2008-17) Twins are 16 - 50 vs NYY -- and in their last four playoff series (the only ones they've ever played against each other) the Twins have NEVER won a series and have won just two games in total, losing the five game ALDS four times: 1-3 (2003), 1-3 (2004), 0-3 (2009), and 0-3 (2010) Shyeeeet, the fucking Rangers don't fold that bad when they see pinstripes! Overall in the post season, the Twins have lost six straight playoff series, coming up winless in the 2006 ALDS vs Oakland, and losing 4-1 in the 2002 ALCS to Anaheim for a whopping 2 - 19 record. The last post-season series they won -- in fact the ONLY post-season series they won since the 1987 World Series -- was the ALDS in 2002 beating Oakland three games to two, that was the series which eliminated the 'MONEYBALL' A's as depicted in the book/movie. The eventual winning run in that series was driven in on a double by the Twins 26 y/o platoon DH who came in an inning earlier on a L/R switch, David Ortiz. Two months later, Minnesota would release him.

Ashie62 Oct 02 2017 01:14 AM Re: IGT, AL Wild Card, MIN @ MFY, 10/3/17

MFS62 wrote: Mets Willets Point wrote: The question here is not, are the Twins going to lose, but, by how many runs are the Twins going to lose? This. Later This

d'Kong76 Oct 02 2017 01:34 AM Re: IGT, AL Wild Card, MIN @ MFY, 10/3/17

Twin go ahead in the top of the 10th on a Judge error. He has a two-out, last-lick shot at redemption with a guy on and whiffs.

Fman99 Oct 02 2017 01:58 AM Re: IGT, AL Wild Card, MIN @ MFY, 10/3/17

I believe in the Twins. What choice do I have?

Ceetar Oct 02 2017 02:09 AM Re: IGT, AL Wild Card, MIN @ MFY, 10/3/17

Twins are gonna destroy them.

41Forever Oct 02 2017 02:57 AM Re: IGT, AL Wild Card, MIN @ MFY, 10/3/17

Twins are overdue. The Baseball Gods know we are owed something after this season.

d'Kong76 Oct 02 2017 03:11 AM Re: IGT, AL Wild Card, MIN @ MFY, 10/3/17

Don't believe in baseball gods, nor any Yanks Twins We thing.

Mets Willets Point Oct 02 2017 03:23 PM Re: IGT, AL Wild Card, MIN @ MFY, 10/3/17

Kind of annoying that the start times for the ALDS are still TBD. You know they're just waiting for the Yankees to win so they can slot them into prime time for every game.

Fman99 Oct 02 2017 03:25 PM Re: IGT, AL Wild Card, MIN @ MFY, 10/3/17

MLB's outright refusal to schedule simultaneous playoff games is just the dumbest thing going. Like a 2 PM start is somehow better than two prime time games to choose from.

Ceetar Oct 02 2017 03:33 PM Re: IGT, AL Wild Card, MIN @ MFY, 10/3/17

Fman99 wrote: MLB's outright refusal to schedule simultaneous playoff games is just the dumbest thing going. Like a 2 PM start is somehow better than two prime time games to choose from. I have to assume that's in the contracts of the television stations right? It'd be great for MLB interest to flip constantly between two, but you might flip off a game and stay on the other if it's more interesting.

Frayed Knot Oct 02 2017 04:16 PM Re: IGT, AL Wild Card, MIN @ MFY, 10/3/17

I remember one year where there were simultaneous -- or at least somewhat overlapping -- game times involving some of the early round contests and MLB took a verbal pasting for it, so I think they're likely to take criticism either way. I recall Francesa in particular going apoplectic over non-exclusive game times, screaming about how 'you'd never see the NFL do anything like that!' Really Mike ... you mean the NFL has figured out a way to jam 11 playoff games into a five week span and somehow manages not to have any of them infringe on any of the others? What genius that must take! I wish MLB had someone that smart since slotting a max of 43 games into a 30-day window is practically the same thing. And, yes, the one way to avoid late scheduling decisions would be to not allow the networks to decide which games go where but MLB, along with all the other sports (aside from 'The Masters'), long ago ceded away scheduling authority in favor of larger piles of cash.

Edgy MD Oct 02 2017 04:24 PM Re: IGT, AL Wild Card, MIN @ MFY, 10/3/17

Do it for Prince! Do it for Grant Hart! Do it for Mary Tyler Moore!

metirish Oct 02 2017 05:49 PM Re: IGT, AL Wild Card, MIN @ MFY, 10/3/17

Fuck the Yankees and all belonging to them

d'Kong76 Oct 02 2017 07:34 PM Re: IGT, AL Wild Card, MIN @ MFY, 10/3/17

Somewhat simultaneous games seem to me not that long ago. Not sure what happened to that exactly (except for the tv $$$ thing). I'm really in not mood this year for the Yanks and their fans getting more than a sniff tomorrow night ending in disappointment. I got a few fb fans already doing a ring check and counting how many HR's his honor will hit in October.

Ceetar Oct 02 2017 07:38 PM Re: IGT, AL Wild Card, MIN @ MFY, 10/3/17

Yeah, there's been a bit too much "Yankees are back look at us we're the best forever" and I'd very much enjoy the "Haven't won a playoff game since 2012." to remain true.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 02 2017 07:48 PM Re: IGT, AL Wild Card, MIN @ MFY, 10/3/17

Fman99 wrote: MLB's outright refusal to schedule simultaneous playoff games is just the dumbest thing going. Like a 2 PM start is somehow better than two prime time games to choose from. There was a time, I think in the early 90s, when they did simultaneous playoff games. Back then, I was someone who wanted to be able to watch every game, and I didn't like that they were doing that. Now, of course, I'm not going to watch any baseball until next March 29, so I no longer care.

Ceetar Oct 02 2017 08:01 PM Re: IGT, AL Wild Card, MIN @ MFY, 10/3/17

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Fman99 wrote: MLB's outright refusal to schedule simultaneous playoff games is just the dumbest thing going. Like a 2 PM start is somehow better than two prime time games to choose from. There was a time, I think in the early 90s, when they did simultaneous playoff games. Back then, I was someone who wanted to be able to watch every game, and I didn't like that they were doing that. Now, of course, I'm not going to watch any baseball until next March 29, so I no longer care. you know this is a thread about WATCHING a baseball game tomorrow right?

Benjamin Grimm Oct 02 2017 08:33 PM Re: IGT, AL Wild Card, MIN @ MFY, 10/3/17

So if I'm not watching tomorrow's game, I can't post in this thread?

Ceetar Oct 03 2017 01:38 AM Re: IGT, AL Wild Card, MIN @ MFY, 10/3/17

Benjamin Grimm wrote: So if I'm not watching tomorrow's game, I can't post in this thread? I mean, it feels a little like showing up at a McDonalds drive thru window to tell them you're not really hungry right now.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 03 2017 01:46 AM Re: IGT, AL Wild Card, MIN @ MFY, 10/3/17

You really are absurd.

d'Kong76 Oct 03 2017 05:36 PM Re: IGT, AL Wild Card, MIN @ MFY, 10/3/17

I suppose I'll watch a few innings and see how this goes. That is provided that ESPN doesn't slobber themselves over the Yanks in excess and the Yanks don't score like 11 runs in the first. I wonder if Joe Torre will be in attendance. That's good for a half-inning slobber. My over-under number of innings for me to last is 3½... take the under!

metirish Oct 03 2017 07:01 PM Re: IGT, AL Wild Card, MIN @ MFY, 10/3/17

Benjamin Grimm wrote: You really are absurd. especially if you think BG would be going to McDonald's

Ceetar Oct 03 2017 07:19 PM Re: IGT, AL Wild Card, MIN @ MFY, 10/3/17

metirish wrote: Benjamin Grimm wrote: You really are absurd. especially if you think BG would be going to McDonald's it's more his bragging about how little he pays attention to baseball. SRO tickets still available on Yankees.com I can't tell if they just keep adding more at higher prices or what. (they say it starts at $28 but listed at $71)

d'Kong76 Oct 03 2017 07:30 PM Re: IGT, AL Wild Card, MIN @ MFY, 10/3/17

Standing around Yankee Stadium for four hours sounds quite unpleasant. I couldn't do that if they offered free beer delivered to my standing spot.

Ceetar Oct 03 2017 07:32 PM Re: IGT, AL Wild Card, MIN @ MFY, 10/3/17

d'Kong76 wrote: Standing around Yankee Stadium for four hours sounds quite unpleasant. I couldn't do that if they offered free beer delivered to my standing spot. I don't know the stadium well enough to say. I've always enjoyed SRO though, hell when I (used to) go to Citi alone I'd rarely sit even if the park was empty. I dunno how that translates to a playoff game though, where you don't actually want to miss action to wander into weird corners of the stadium.

d'Kong76 Oct 03 2017 07:36 PM Re: IGT, AL Wild Card, MIN @ MFY, 10/3/17

Never been there. Plus free beer would need to be pee'd and then I'd lose my spot.

Ceetar Oct 03 2017 07:42 PM Re: IGT, AL Wild Card, MIN @ MFY, 10/3/17

d'Kong76 wrote: Never been there. Plus free beer would need to be pee'd and then I'd lose my spot. They have very little drinkable beer there anyway. Actually SRO usually get's first swipe at the bathroom since you don't have to get up at the end of the inning. And if you're really desperate (at least at Citi) the audio's piped in so if it's like 2 outs no one on and 0-2 on the batter you can hedge your bet that nothing happens and go. Anyway, did we post game stuff yet? It's Luis Severino against Ervin Santana on ESPN at 8pm. Yankee fans are sure Luis Severino is better than any Mets starter ever and will stay healthy for sure. Santana has had a strangely good season, outperforming a lot of FIP metrics. Maybe luck based, low BABIP and high LOB rate, but it's been all season so who knows.

cooby Oct 03 2017 07:43 PM Re: IGT, AL Wild Card, MIN @ MFY, 10/3/17

They pipe the radio feed into the restrooms

cooby Oct 03 2017 07:43 PM Re: IGT, AL Wild Card, MIN @ MFY, 10/3/17

Wow ceeter and I said the same thing!

seawolf17 Oct 03 2017 07:46 PM Re: IGT, AL Wild Card, MIN @ MFY, 10/3/17

I haven't been to YS3 and have no intentions of doing so. I'll have to go at some point just to knock it off my list, but I'm not in any rush.

Frayed Knot Oct 03 2017 08:02 PM Re: IGT, AL Wild Card, MIN @ MFY, 10/3/17

Ceetar wrote: Anyway, did we post game stuff yet? It's Luis Severino against Ervin Santana on ESPN at 8pm. Kind of cool that the Twins were able to go from 103 losses last year to a playoff spot this season - even if just barely over .500 and with only a slight positive in run differential And even if they seemed ready to quit the race in August when they dealt away a top reliever (to the Nats) and the starter they had just dealt for one start earlier and sent him to a team they were competing with for a WC slot (the Yanx - Jamie Garcia). And even if the Twins "sprint" to the playoff consisted of them busting out of a crowded race by going 14-14 in September and still secure a spot without much of a sweat because every other team was busy playing like shit. And, as mentioned before, even if they have like 5 wins in the Bronx during the entire 21st century so far.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 03 2017 08:26 PM Re: IGT, AL Wild Card, MIN @ MFY, 10/3/17

Frayed Knot wrote: Kind of cool that the Twins were able to go from 103 losses last year to a playoff spot this season I wasn't aware of that! That offers at least a measure of hope for the 2018 Mets.

Frayed Knot Oct 03 2017 08:29 PM Re: IGT, AL Wild Card, MIN @ MFY, 10/3/17

Arizona also was able to flip their record from 69-93 in 2016 to 93-69 this year - and do so without actually changing a whole heck of a lot except for health and, I suppose, luck. But that's a tale for tomorrow's WC IGT

Ceetar Oct 03 2017 11:05 PM Re: IGT, AL Wild Card, MIN @ MFY, 10/3/17

seawolf17 wrote: I haven't been to YS3 and have no intentions of doing so. I'll have to go at some point just to knock it off my list, but I'm not in any rush. I actually haven't been sine the first two years. Mostly it's just hard to get to. But like it's reasonable to head out to a mid-week april or may game if you can and wander around when it's mostly empty. or sept after they're eliminated.

d'Kong76 Oct 03 2017 11:20 PM Re: IGT, AL Wild Card, MIN @ MFY, 10/3/17

I'm on the Hudson Line, I can take a train there! No desire.

Ceetar Oct 03 2017 11:25 PM Re: IGT, AL Wild Card, MIN @ MFY, 10/3/17

d'Kong76 wrote: I'm on the Hudson Line, I can take a train there! No desire. I mean, it's still baseball. It's still a neat mall to walk around in. Not necessarily worth special effort though.

Fman99 Oct 04 2017 12:20 AM Re: IGT, AL Wild Card, MIN @ MFY, 10/3/17

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 04 2017 12:21 AM Re: IGT, AL Wild Card, MIN @ MFY, 10/3/17

Lol. Looking good so far

Mets Willets Point Oct 04 2017 12:32 AM Re: IGT, AL Wild Card, MIN @ MFY, 10/3/17

Dare we believe in the Twins? Or is this setting us up for the mother-of-all-cockpunches later?

Fman99 Oct 04 2017 12:52 AM Re: IGT, AL Wild Card, MIN @ MFY, 10/3/17

Oh, fuck off, Twinks.

Mets Willets Point Oct 04 2017 12:55 AM Re: IGT, AL Wild Card, MIN @ MFY, 10/3/17

That didn't take long to suck.

d'Kong76 Oct 04 2017 12:57 AM Re: IGT, AL Wild Card, MIN @ MFY, 10/3/17

Holy fuck, the first inning took almost an hour.

Mets Willets Point Oct 04 2017 01:01 AM Re: IGT, AL Wild Card, MIN @ MFY, 10/3/17

d'Kong76 wrote: Holy fuck, the first inning took almost an hour. They're going to make a series out of it.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 04 2017 01:05 AM Re: IGT, AL Wild Card, MIN @ MFY, 10/3/17

Went to read/play some Tom Petty songs to the kid for bedtime at 8. Figured I'd be getting in somewhere mid-game. Alas, I forgot what sort of baseball with which we were dealing here.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 04 2017 01:12 AM Re: IGT, AL Wild Card, MIN @ MFY, 10/3/17

Byron Buxton is quite the glovely centerfielder. Robbed Frazier on a tricky catch-then-bang-the-wall job.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 04 2017 01:24 AM Re: IGT, AL Wild Card, MIN @ MFY, 10/3/17

Less glovely, that ill-placed slider to Gardner. Twins have two-on, nobody-out stew going in the 3rd, though.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 04 2017 01:31 AM Re: IGT, AL Wild Card, MIN @ MFY, 10/3/17

Chad Green walks the bases loaded, then goes. MFYs on pitcher three, and they're seven outs into the game. Meanwhile, Dances With Wolves, playing concurrently on another station, is approaching the halfway mark.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 04 2017 01:37 AM Re: IGT, AL Wild Card, MIN @ MFY, 10/3/17

I've caught up on the entire Ken Burns Vietnam in the 1st inning

Fman99 Oct 04 2017 01:54 AM Re: IGT, AL Wild Card, MIN @ MFY, 10/3/17

Three innings in, at 9:54 PM. Thanks anyway.

Frayed Knot Oct 04 2017 01:56 AM Re: IGT, AL Wild Card, MIN @ MFY, 10/3/17

It's just not a Yanqui game until they extend an inning with a swinging bunt. That's probably one of the few stats NOT tracked, but I suspect the Yanx lead the majors in that category by like 80% over every other team. Twins going K, K, GO, K with two runners on or with bases loaded is obviously a big deal tonight. And only Buxton's speed kept that GO from being a GiDP

Mets Willets Point Oct 04 2017 01:58 AM Re: IGT, AL Wild Card, MIN @ MFY, 10/3/17

I suppose we should start getting ready for "28 rings, baaa-beee!!!"

Frayed Knot Oct 04 2017 02:00 AM Re: IGT, AL Wild Card, MIN @ MFY, 10/3/17

HA! Swinging bunts work both ways!!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 04 2017 02:01 AM Re: IGT, AL Wild Card, MIN @ MFY, 10/3/17

Paul Molitor looking rrrrrough in that midgame interview, like he uses ocean water as aftershave. Hey! Swinging bunt the other way... by 30-HR guy Dozier.

Frayed Knot Oct 04 2017 02:04 AM Re: IGT, AL Wild Card, MIN @ MFY, 10/3/17

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I've caught up on the entire Ken Burns Vietnam in the 1st inning Wait until the 7th inning stretch which, for some reason, the Yanx are allotted more than twice the usual break as compared to other teams. You can catch up on the other nine episodes during that break.

d'Kong76 Oct 04 2017 02:05 AM Re: IGT, AL Wild Card, MIN @ MFY, 10/3/17

In this longer than expected. Like the Minnesota jerseys.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 04 2017 02:10 AM Re: IGT, AL Wild Card, MIN @ MFY, 10/3/17

We're three and a half in. Kevin Costner has now married Stands With A Fist and gone full Lakota.

Frayed Knot Oct 04 2017 02:10 AM Re: IGT, AL Wild Card, MIN @ MFY, 10/3/17

I don't think I've ever seen Brett Gardner make an out. Keith Lockhart on those '90s Braves teams was the same way.

d'Kong76 Oct 04 2017 02:12 AM Re: IGT, AL Wild Card, MIN @ MFY, 10/3/17

Judge. Kabooms.

Frayed Knot Oct 04 2017 02:20 AM Re: IGT, AL Wild Card, MIN @ MFY, 10/3/17

So the Twins are down by three with the game half over, are in a battle of bullpens, have their best two hitters out of the game/roster (Buxton & Sano), and haven't won a game in the bronx since Tom Kelly was their manager. But other than that it's lookin' good.

Ashie62 Oct 04 2017 02:23 AM Re: IGT, AL Wild Card, MIN @ MFY, 10/3/17

4th inning at 10:30. Nyet for me. Yankees own the Twins anyway. Seeya!

Frayed Knot Oct 04 2017 02:56 AM Re: IGT, AL Wild Card, MIN @ MFY, 10/3/17

I hope this Hindenberger guy the Twins just brought in from the pen doesn't crash and burn.

bmfc1 Oct 04 2017 11:06 AM Re: IGT, AL Wild Card, MIN @ MFY, 10/3/17

VOMIT: http://nypost.com/2017/10/04/what-is-it ... hortstops/

metirish Oct 04 2017 12:50 PM Re: IGT, AL Wild Card, MIN @ MFY, 10/3/17

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I've caught up on the entire Ken Burns Vietnam in the 1st inning :) , I tuned to that to watch again around the 4th, I saw somewhere that the first 3 or 4 innings took 2.5 hours+

Mets Willets Point Oct 04 2017 12:53 PM Re: IGT, AL Wild Card, MIN @ MFY, 10/3/17

Did this game end yet?

Frayed Knot Oct 04 2017 01:04 PM Re: IGT, AL Wild Card, MIN @ MFY, 10/3/17

This was an unusual game in that the pace actually picked up in the final few innings enabling the game to pull in at a breezy 3:51 (aka: right around midnight EDT) Usually it's all the late game pitching changes that slam the brakes on things once a game hits the 7th inning but here it wasn't like you could slow it down from its early pace. Also, while I assume the Yanx still did their 7th inning GBA thing, unlike the local channel, ESPN was under no strong-arm requirements to televise it and only then go to commercials so that break wound up taking less time than the usual MFY game.

MFS62 Oct 04 2017 01:43 PM Re: IGT, AL Wild Card, MIN @ MFY, 10/3/17

Frayed Knot wrote: I hope this Hindenberger guy the Twins just brought in from the pen doesn't crash and burn. Nice.(Because we don't award BOCs anymore.) Later

Frayed Knot Oct 04 2017 01:49 PM Re: IGT, AL Wild Card, MIN @ MFY, 10/3/17

It was only after posting that that I realized the guy's name is spelled Hildenberger not Hindenberger, but I wasn't about the rescind the joke over such minor details. Plus I think he wound up as the only Minnesota pitcher who didn't crash and burn last night.

Frayed Knot Oct 04 2017 03:31 PM Re: IGT, AL Wild Card, MIN @ MFY, 10/3/17

One thing I suspect this game will do is stir up discussion from those who advocate something closer to the all-bullpen type of pitcher use in general. - The Yanqui starter went 1/3 of an inning with relievers then filling in for: 2, 3-1/3, 2-1/3, and 1 innings. In total the pen allowed just 1 run on 5 hits with 3 walks and [u:6t31g6mk]13 Ks[/u:6t31g6mk] Hard to know if Severino is going to be scarred for life by this but Girardi's quick hook certainly looks like the right call considering the circumstances. - The Twins starter lasted all of two innings while giving up 4 runs. His follow-up was more akin to a second starter than a true reliever who got tagged for 3 runs/5 hits over 3 IP. After that their actual pen then covered the remaining 3 innings: 1 run, 1 hit, 3 walks

Frayed Knot Oct 04 2017 11:42 PM Re: IGT, AL Wild Card, MIN @ MFY, 10/3/17

Mets Willets Point wrote: Kind of annoying that the start times for the ALDS are still TBD. You know they're just waiting for the Yankees to win so they can slot them into prime time for every game. And as predicted: The Red Sox @ Houston will get the early slot on Thursday (4:00) while the Yanx @ Cleveland gets the later time (7:30) and the situation is the same for Friday: 2:00 / 5:00 and again on Sunday: 2:30 / 7:30 and again for the Game Fours on Monday and Game Fives on Wednesday with exact start times for those days subject to 'if necessary' status. On the plus side, you wanted some daytime playoff action for your kid and some of it's even on a weekend!!

Mets Willets Point Oct 05 2017 12:21 AM Re: IGT, AL Wild Card, MIN @ MFY, 10/3/17

That is a definite plus.