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Manager Scorecard - Winter 2017-18

Frayed Knot Sep 29 2017 06:39 PM Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Oct 03 2017 03:22 AM

I think it's about time to whip this out ... TEAM MANAGER CONTRACT STATUS ANGELS Mike Scioscia 2018 ASTROS AJ Hinch ??? ATHLETICS Bob Melvin 2018 BLUE JAYS John Gibbons 2019 + 2020 Option BRAVES Brian Snitker 2017 + 2018 Option BREWERS Craig Counsel 2020 CARDINALS--- Mike Matheny 2020 CUBS Joe Maddon 2019 DBACKS Torey Luvello 2019 DODGERS Dave Roberts 2018 + 2019 Option GIANTS Bruce Bochy 2019 INDIANS Terry Francona 2020 MARINERS Scott Servais 2018 MARLINS Don Mattingly 2019 METS Terry Collins 2017 NATIONALS Dusty Baker 2017 ORIOLES Buck Showalter--- 2018 PADRES Andy Green 2021 Signed Extension Aug ‘17 PHILLIES Pete MacKanin 2018 + 2019 Option --- Signed ext in May '17 -- Will not return in 2018 PIRATES Clint Hurdle 2021 Signed 4 year extension - Sept ‘17 RANGERS Jeff Banister 2018 + 2019 Option RAYS Kevin Cash 2019 RED SOX John Ferrell 2018 REDS Bryan Price 2018 2018 Option exercised - Sept ‘17 ROCKIES Bud Black 2019 + 2020 Option ROYALS Ned Yost 2018 TIGERS Brad Ausmus 2017 2018 Option NOT Picked Up TWINS Paul Molitor 2017 WHITE SOX Rick Renteria 2019 YANKEES Joe Girardi 2017 Job changes and/or pending changes shown in Red I won't mark Terry as out the door yet since it's not officially official. Phil Nevin -- former ML'er who's managed in AA, AAA and is currently the 3rd base coach for the Giants -- is said to be the front-runner for the Tigers vacancy.

metirish Sep 29 2017 06:48 PM Re: Manager Scorecard - Winter 2017-18

Saw this on Twitter Oakland A's Bob Melvin is truly #RootedInOakland. The Bay Area native inks a one-year contract extension through the 2019 season.

G-Fafif Sep 29 2017 07:22 PM Re: Manager Scorecard - Winter 2017-18

Mackanin will serve as special assistant in 2018, hopefully assisting in another disastrous season.

Frayed Knot Oct 03 2017 03:21 AM Re: Manager Scorecard - Winter 2017-18 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 11 2017 01:40 PM

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Frayed Knot Oct 11 2017 01:33 PM Re: Manager Scorecard - Winter 2017-18

John Farrell out in Boston TEAM MANAGER CONTRACT STATUS ANGELS Mike Scioscia 2018 ASTROS AJ Hinch ??? ATHLETICS Bob Melvin 2019 Signed ext for 2019 on 9/28/17 BLUE JAYS John Gibbons 2019 + 2020 Option BRAVES Brian Snitker 2017 + 2018 Option Option for 2018 picked up on 10/5/17 BREWERS Craig Counsel 2020 CARDINALS--- Mike Matheny 2020 CUBS Joe Maddon 2019 DBACKS Torey Luvello 2019 DODGERS Dave Roberts 2018 + 2019 Option GIANTS Bruce Bochy 2019 INDIANS Terry Francona 2020 MARINERS Scott Servais 2018 MARLINS Don Mattingly 2019 METS Terry Collins 2017 Will not return NATIONALS Dusty Baker 2017 ORIOLES Buck Showalter--- 2018 PADRES Andy Green 2021 Signed Extension Aug ‘17 PHILLIES Pete MacKanin 2018 + 2019 Option --- Signed ext in May '17 -- Will not return in 2018 PIRATES Clint Hurdle 2021 Signed 4 year extension - Sept ‘17 RANGERS Jeff Banister 2018 + 2019 Option RAYS Kevin Cash 2019 RED SOX John Ferrell 2018 Will NOT return in 2018 REDS Bryan Price 2018 2018 Option exercised - Sept ‘17 ROCKIES Bud Black 2019 + 2020 Option ROYALS Ned Yost 2018 TIGERS Brad Ausmus 2017 2018 Option NOT Picked Up TWINS Paul Molitor 2017 WHITE SOX Rick Renteria 2019 YANKEES Joe Girardi 2017

Frayed Knot Oct 19 2017 10:02 PM Re: Manager Scorecard - Winter 2017-18

You can scratch Ron Gardenhire off your wish lists (assuming you had him on in the first place) as the Tigers just Gardenhired him Deets still to come. TEAM MANAGER CONTRACT STATUS ANGELS Mike Scioscia 2018 ASTROS AJ Hinch ??? ATHLETICS Bob Melvin 2019 Signed ext for 2019 on 9/28/17 BLUE JAYS John Gibbons 2019 + 2020 Option BRAVES Brian Snitker 2017 + 2018 Option Option for 2018 picked up on 10/5/17 BREWERS Craig Counsel 2020 CARDINALS--- Mike Matheny 2020 CUBS Joe Maddon 2019 DBACKS Torey Luvello 2019 DODGERS Dave Roberts 2018 + 2019 Option GIANTS Bruce Bochy 2019 INDIANS Terry Francona 2020 MARINERS Scott Servais 2018 MARLINS Don Mattingly 2019 METS Terry Collins 2017 Will not return NATIONALS Dusty Baker 2017 ORIOLES Buck Showalter--- 2018 PADRES Andy Green 2021 Signed Extension Aug ‘17 PHILLIES Pete MacKanin 2018 + 2019 Option --- Signed ext in May '17 -- Will not return in 2018 PIRATES Clint Hurdle 2021 Signed 4 year extension - Sept ‘17 RANGERS Jeff Banister 2018 + 2019 Option RAYS Kevin Cash 2019 RED SOX John Ferrell 2018 Will NOT return in 2018 REDS Bryan Price 2018 2018 Option exercised - Sept ‘17 ROCKIES Bud Black 2019 + 2020 Option ROYALS Ned Yost 2018 TIGERS Brad Ausmus 2017 Ron Gardenhire hired - Oct '17 TWINS Paul Molitor 2017 WHITE SOX Rick Renteria 2019 YANKEES Joe Girardi 2017

MFS62 Oct 19 2017 10:49 PM Re: Manager Scorecard - Winter 2017-18

And Yahoo sports is reporting that the Red Sox will name Alex Cora as their new manager. https://www.yahoo.com/sports/report-ale ... 17338.html Sigh. Later

Frayed Knot Oct 20 2017 05:10 PM Re: Manager Scorecard - Winter 2017-18

TEAM MANAGER CONTRACT STATUS ANGELS Mike Scioscia 2018 ASTROS AJ Hinch ??? ATHLETICS Bob Melvin 2019 Signed ext for 2019 on 9/28/17 BLUE JAYS John Gibbons 2019 + 2020 Option BRAVES Brian Snitker 2017 + 2018 Option Option for 2018 picked up on 10/5/17 BREWERS Craig Counsel 2020 CARDINALS--- Mike Matheny 2020 CUBS Joe Maddon 2019 DBACKS Torey Luvello 2019 DODGERS Dave Roberts 2018 + 2019 Option GIANTS Bruce Bochy 2019 INDIANS Terry Francona 2020 MARINERS Scott Servais 2018 MARLINS Don Mattingly 2019 METS Terry Collins 2017 Will not return =#0000FF]NATIONALS =#0040FF]Dusty Baker 2017 =#0000FF]Will Not Return for 2018 ORIOLES Buck Showalter--- 2018 PADRES Andy Green 2021 Signed Extension Aug ‘17 PHILLIES Pete MacKanin 2018 + 2019 Option --- Signed ext in May '17 -- Will not return in 2018 PIRATES Clint Hurdle 2021 Signed 4 year extension - Sept ‘17 RANGERS Jeff Banister 2018 + 2019 Option RAYS Kevin Cash 2019 RED SOX John Ferrell 2018 Will NOT return in 2018 REDS Bryan Price 2018 2018 Option exercised - Sept ‘17 ROCKIES Bud Black 2019 + 2020 Option ROYALS Ned Yost 2018 TIGERS Brad Ausmus 2017 Ron Gardenhire hired - Oct '17 TWINS Paul Molitor 2017 WHITE SOX Rick Renteria 2019 YANKEES Joe Girardi 2017

Frayed Knot Oct 20 2017 11:55 PM Re: Manager Scorecard - Winter 2017-18

The ups and downs of Dusty Baker's managerial career: 22 seasons from 1993 - 2017 interrupted only by him being jobless in 2007 and again in 2014-2015 Nine times his teams reached the post-season ... but that's where the trouble started. SFG: 1993-2002 1997 - 1st place NLW, 90-72; Lose in 1st round to Marlins 3-0 2000 - 1st place NLW, 97-65; Lose in 1st round to Mets 3-1 2002 - 2nd place WC, 98-63; * Win 3-2 over the 101-win Braves; * Win 4-1 in 2nd round over 97-win Cards; * Lose 4-3 in WS to Anaheim after having a 3 games to 2 lead including a 5-0 lead in the 7th inning of Game 6 (giving Russ Ortiz the game ball) CUBS 2003-2006 2003 - 1st place NLC, 88-74; * =#008000]Win 3-2 over 101-win Braves (his final post-season deciding game win!!); * Lose 4-3 to WC Marlins after holding a 3-2 game lead and a 3-0 lead in the 8th inning of Game 6 (Two words: Bart Man) and again they held a lead in Game 7 REDS 2008-2013 2010 - 1st place NLC 91-71; Lose in 3-Game sweep to 97-win Phillies in 1st round (including a Roy Halladay no-hitter) 2012 - 1st place NLC 97-65; Lose 3-2 in 1st round to Giants after leading the series 2-0 2013 - WC 90-72; Lost one-game WC play-in game to Pirates NATIONALS 2016-2017 2016 - 1st place NLE 95-67; Lose 3-2 to Dodgers in 1st round after holding a 2-1 lead 2017 - 1st place NLE 97-65; Lose 3-2 to Cubs in 1st round despite a lead in the final game and Scherzer on the mound So that's nine straight losses in games where his team had a chance to put away a post-season series and 11 of 12 dating back to the final two games of the 2002 World Series It can't all be his fault of course, but it's hard to divorce him from it all also. The Nats say it was a "baseball decision" to not rehire him although that contradicts previous rumors. And while they deny it was over contract specifics, it needs to be remembered that Dusty wan't their first choice when they were looking around for a replacement for Matt Williams. They had targeted Bud Black (now with Colorado) but that fell apart over ... contract specifics and so they moved on to Baker. GM Mike Rizzo (or the folks he reports to) apparently have ideas of what a manager is worth and they don't want to go over that. As a long-time vet going for his second deal with this team, maybe Dusty wanted a raise they weren't willing to give. Also his star RF'er notably went all non-committal when asked about Baker in the aftermath of their elimination ("that's not my decision"). btw, none of the Washington coaches are being kept either -- although it's possible they could re-hire some of them once they decide on a new skipper. So this makes highly respected and long time pitching coach Mike Maddux at least theoretically available. Know any teams looking for a replacement PC?

Mets Willets Point Oct 21 2017 05:41 PM Re: Manager Scorecard - Winter 2017-18

Can Cora officially accept a deal and continue coaching the Astros? I’m wondering if the Astros season will have to be over before he can announce an agreement with any team.

bmfc1 Oct 21 2017 10:12 PM Re: Manager Scorecard - Winter 2017-18

"Gutless arrogance", says Bob Nightengale in USA Today A "laughingstock", says Thom Loverro in The Washington Times No, they aren't talking about the Mets, for once, they are talking about the Nationals!

41Forever Oct 22 2017 02:31 AM Re: Manager Scorecard - Winter 2017-18

Folks in Detroit pretty happy about the Gardenhire hiring.

Edgy MD Oct 22 2017 12:05 PM Re: Manager Scorecard - Winter 2017-18

Best wishes to him. I imagine if the Mets went hard after him, he'd have considered it. It's a tough assignment, trying to perform your second act in the same division where you had your long-term first job.

Frayed Knot Oct 22 2017 01:04 PM Re: Manager Scorecard - Winter 2017-18

I would have been very Gardy leery. I can't remember specifics now, but I recall questioning a bunch of his moves during the annual ritual sacrifice to pinstripes the Twins would pull each year. Also, the Twins have a not so great track record getting nothing out of players who go on to be good or even great elsewhere. I mean, sure, everyone does that, but they seem to do it because they try to mold their guys into old-school type opposite field singles hitters. They did that with Papi Ortiz for crissakes before flat-out releasing him at age 26 coming off a 826 OPS season. They wanted Carlos Gomez to slap the ball on the ground too during the one year they had him and he wound up blossoming right after those restraints came off. Recently they gave up on 1st round draft pick Aaron Hicks (traded for a .140-hitting backup catcher) who by the end of the year was the starting CF for the Yanquis. And, again, all orgs miss players here and there. It's just that Minnesota seems to do so specifically by trying to put round pegs in square holes and then blaming the pegs when it doesn't work. Now maybe that's more organizational than it is on Garderhire specifically, but he was an organization man for a long time, something they talked about as being consistent throughout the whole Tom Kelly/Garderhire time frames, so I wonder how set in his ways he is, especially as he talked in his Detroit press conference about needing to be introduced to the analytics department.

Frayed Knot Oct 23 2017 01:01 AM Re: Manager Scorecard - Winter 2017-18

Two teams take advantage of the playoff lull to hire first-time managers, one expected, the other a bit of a surprise. And I guess the Boston hire makes the answer to Willet's question in this thread [10/21, 1:41 PM] -- 'Yes' TEAM MANAGER CONTRACT STATUS ANGELS Mike Scioscia 2018 ASTROS AJ Hinch ??? ATHLETICS Bob Melvin 2019 Signed ext for 2019 on 9/28/17 BLUE JAYS John Gibbons 2019 + 2020 Option BRAVES Brian Snitker 2017 + 2018 Option Option for 2018 picked up on 10/5/17 BREWERS Craig Counsel 2020 CARDINALS--- Mike Matheny 2020 CUBS Joe Maddon 2019 DBACKS Torey Luvello 2019 DODGERS Dave Roberts 2018 + 2019 Option GIANTS Bruce Bochy 2019 INDIANS Terry Francona 2020 MARINERS Scott Servais 2018 MARLINS Don Mattingly 2019 METS Terry Collins 2017 =#0000FF]Hired Mickey Callaway on a 3-year deal - Oct '17 NATIONALS Dusty Baker 2017 Will Not Return for 2018 ORIOLES Buck Showalter--- 2018 PADRES Andy Green 2021 Signed Extension Aug ‘17 PHILLIES Pete MacKanin 2018 + 2019 Option --- Signed ext in May '17 -- Will not return in 2018 PIRATES Clint Hurdle 2021 Signed 4 year extension - Sept ‘17 RANGERS Jeff Banister 2018 + 2019 Option RAYS Kevin Cash 2019 RED SOX John Ferrell 2018 =#0000FF]Hired Alex Cora on a 3-year contract - Oct '17 REDS Bryan Price 2018 2018 Option exercised - Sept ‘17 ROCKIES Bud Black 2019 + 2020 Option ROYALS Ned Yost 2018 TIGERS Brad Ausmus 2017 Ron Gardenhire hired - Oct '17 TWINS Paul Molitor 2017 WHITE SOX Rick Renteria 2019 YANKEES Joe Girardi 2017

Frayed Knot Oct 26 2017 05:29 PM Re: Manager Scorecard - Winter 2017-18

More activity this off-season than I suspect most folks anticipated. TEAM MANAGER CONTRACT STATUS ANGELS Mike Scioscia 2018 ASTROS AJ Hinch ??? ATHLETICS Bob Melvin 2019 Signed ext for 2019 on 9/28/17 BLUE JAYS John Gibbons 2019 + 2020 Option BRAVES Brian Snitker 2017 + 2018 Option Option for 2018 picked up on 10/5/17 BREWERS Craig Counsel 2020 CARDINALS--- Mike Matheny 2020 CUBS Joe Maddon 2019 DBACKS Torey Luvello 2019 DODGERS Dave Roberts 2018 + 2019 Option GIANTS Bruce Bochy 2019 INDIANS Terry Francona 2020 MARINERS Scott Servais 2018 MARLINS Don Mattingly 2019 METS [crossout]Terry Collins[/crossout] 2017 Hired Mickey Callaway on a 3-year deal - Oct '17 NATIONALS [crossout]Dusty Baker[/crossout] 2017 Will Not Return for 2018 ORIOLES Buck Showalter--- 2018 PADRES Andy Green 2021 Signed Extension Aug ‘17 PHILLIES [crossout]Pete MacKanin[/crossout] 2018 + 2019 Option --- Signed ext in May '17 -- Will not return in 2018 PIRATES Clint Hurdle 2021 Signed 4 year extension - Sept ‘17 RANGERS Jeff Banister 2018 + 2019 Option RAYS Kevin Cash 2019 RED SOX [crossout]John Ferrell[/crossout] 2018 Hired Alex Cora on a 3-year contract - Oct '17 REDS Bryan Price 2018 2018 Option exercised - Sept ‘17 ROCKIES Bud Black 2019 + 2020 Option ROYALS Ned Yost 2018 TIGERS [crossout]Brad Ausmus[/crossout] 2017 Ron Gardenhire hired - Oct '17 TWINS Paul Molitor 2017 WHITE SOX Rick Renteria 2019 YANKEES [crossout]Joe Girardi[/crossout] 2017 =#0000FF]Will Not Return in 2018

MFS62 Oct 26 2017 09:08 PM Re: Manager Scorecard - Winter 2017-18

Do ya' think that some of the guys who jumped to sign would have waited if they had known the MFY spot was going to be open? Maybe all of them? Later

41Forever Oct 26 2017 10:01 PM Re: Manager Scorecard - Winter 2017-18

Not Mickey!!!

d'Kong76 Oct 26 2017 10:21 PM Re: Manager Scorecard - Winter 2017-18

MFS62 wrote: Do ya' think that some of the guys who jumped to sign would have waited if they had known the MFY spot was going to be open? If they didn't know it would be open they didn't do their homework. Few thought that he would be back for another term. It will be interesting to see who replaces him. As much as I loathe them more than utility companies and lima beans, it is one of the most prestigious jobs in all of sports.

Frayed Knot Oct 27 2017 12:24 AM Re: Manager Scorecard - Winter 2017-18

The Yanquis tend to stay in house for a lot of their stuff. When they needed to replace Torre they interviewed only Girardi (former player who was part of their broadcast booth at the time), along with Mattingly, and Tony Pena who was an active coach for them at the time. Most of the names I've heard thrown around today involve guys in their system -- coach Rob Thomson, various minor league mgrs -- along with former (actually still current coach technically) NYM batting coach Kevin Long who of course came from the Yanx.

Frayed Knot Oct 29 2017 03:05 PM Re: Manager Scorecard - Winter 2017-18

After hiring Matt Williams because he reportedly didn't want a recycled manager, Nationals GM turned to veteran Dusty Baker only to back out of that after just two years even though they produced 94 & 97 win seasons. Well now that team has turned back to another first-time in Dave Martinez. They had reportedly also interviewed hitting coach Kevin Long and recently canned Red Sox skipper John Farrell Born in NYC, raised in Florida, Martinez was a long-time player [16 seasons from '86 - '01 with the Cubs, Expos, Reds, Giants, ChiSox, Rays, Cubs again, Rangers, Blue Jays, and Braves] and since has been the bench coach with Joe Maddon on both the Rays & Cubs and a frequent managerial interviewer. TEAM MANAGER CONTRACT STATUS ANGELS Mike Scioscia 2018 ASTROS AJ Hinch ??? ATHLETICS Bob Melvin 2019 Signed ext for 2019 on 9/28/17 BLUE JAYS John Gibbons 2019 + 2020 Option BRAVES Brian Snitker 2017 + 2018 Option Option for 2018 picked up on 10/5/17 BREWERS Craig Counsel 2020 CARDINALS--- Mike Matheny 2020 CUBS Joe Maddon 2019 DBACKS Torey Luvello 2019 DODGERS Dave Roberts 2018 + 2019 Option GIANTS Bruce Bochy 2019 INDIANS Terry Francona 2020 MARINERS Scott Servais 2018 MARLINS Don Mattingly 2019 METS [crossout]Terry Collins[/crossout] 2017 Hired Mickey Callaway on a 3-year deal - Oct '17 NATIONALS [crossout]Dusty Baker[/crossout] 2017 =#0000FF]Hired Dave Martinez - Oct '17 ORIOLES Buck Showalter--- 2018 PADRES Andy Green 2021 Signed Extension Aug ‘17 PHILLIES [crossout]Pete MacKanin[/crossout] 2018 + 2019 Option --- Signed ext in May '17 -- Will not return in 2018 PIRATES Clint Hurdle 2021 Signed 4 year extension - Sept ‘17 RANGERS Jeff Banister 2018 + 2019 Option RAYS Kevin Cash 2019 RED SOX [crossout]John Ferrell[/crossout] 2018 Hired Alex Cora on a 3-year contract - Oct '17 REDS Bryan Price 2018 2018 Option exercised - Sept ‘17 ROCKIES Bud Black 2019 + 2020 Option ROYALS Ned Yost 2018 TIGERS [crossout]Brad Ausmus[/crossout] 2017 Ron Gardenhire hired - Oct '17 TWINS Paul Molitor 2017 WHITE SOX Rick Renteria 2019 YANKEES [crossout]Joe Girardi[/crossout] 2017 =#0000FF]Will Not Return in 2018

41Forever Oct 29 2017 06:13 PM Re: Manager Scorecard - Winter 2017-18

Maybe the Nats’ desire not to pay for a good manager is a factor in the team’s inability to get through the playoffs. Even the big salary that Girardi was getting is what we just paid Astruble Cabrera.

Frayed Knot Oct 30 2017 07:27 PM Re: Manager Scorecard - Winter 2017-18 Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Nov 03 2017 12:38 PM

Phils to hire Gabe Kapler as their next manager. The muscle-man/OFer played for six different teams over 12 seasons from 1998 to 2010 Most recently he had been in the Dodgers front office TEAM MANAGER CONTRACT STATUS ANGELS Mike Scioscia 2018 ASTROS AJ Hinch 2018 ATHLETICS Bob Melvin 2019 Signed ext for 2019 on 9/28/17 BLUE JAYS John Gibbons 2019 + 2020 Option BRAVES Brian Snitker 2017 + 2018 Option Option for 2018 picked up on 10/5/17 BREWERS Craig Counsel 2020 CARDINALS--- Mike Matheny 2020 CUBS Joe Maddon 2019 DBACKS Torey Luvello 2019 DODGERS Dave Roberts 2018 + 2019 Option GIANTS Bruce Bochy 2019 INDIANS Terry Francona 2020 MARINERS Scott Servais 2018 MARLINS Don Mattingly 2019 METS [crossout]Terry Collins[/crossout] 2017 Hired Mickey Callaway on a 3-year deal - Oct '17 NATIONALS [crossout]Dusty Baker[/crossout] 2017 Hired Dave Martinez to a 3-Year Contract - Oct '17 ORIOLES Buck Showalter--- 2018 PADRES Andy Green 2021 Signed Extension Aug ‘17 PHILLIES [crossout]Pete MacKanin[/crossout] 2018 + 2019 Option --- =#0000FF]Gabe Kapler signed to a Three-Year Contract PIRATES Clint Hurdle 2021 Signed 4 year extension - Sept ‘17 RANGERS Jeff Banister 2018 + 2019 Option RAYS Kevin Cash 2019 RED SOX [crossout]John Ferrell[/crossout] 2018 Hired Alex Cora on a 3-year contract - Oct '17 REDS Bryan Price 2018 2018 Option exercised - Sept ‘17 ROCKIES Bud Black 2019 + 2020 Option ROYALS Ned Yost 2018 TIGERS [crossout]Brad Ausmus[/crossout] 2017 Ron Gardenhire hired - Oct '17 TWINS Paul Molitor 2017 WHITE SOX Rick Renteria 2019 YANKEES [crossout]Joe Girardi[/crossout] 2017 Will Not Return in 2018

Benjamin Grimm Oct 30 2017 07:41 PM Re: Manager Scorecard - Winter 2017-18

Frayed Knot Oct 30 2017 07:45 PM Re: Manager Scorecard - Winter 2017-18

His post game ritual will be to go home and tell his wife a joke. I guess for road games he'll have to call her, but will he wake her up after west coast games?

Edgy MD Oct 30 2017 07:52 PM Re: Manager Scorecard - Winter 2017-18

[list=1:1lgkcg8e][*:1lgkcg8e]Epstein, cf[/*:m:1lgkcg8e] [*:1lgkcg8e]Horshack, 2b[/*:m:1lgkcg8e] [*:1lgkcg8e]Barbarino, ss[/*:m:1lgkcg8e] [*:1lgkcg8e]Washington, 1b[/*:m:1lgkcg8e] [*:1lgkcg8e]De LaBarre, rf[/*:m:1lgkcg8e] [*:1lgkcg8e]Totsie, 3b[/*:m:1lgkcg8e] [*:1lgkcg8e]Borden, lf[/*:m:1lgkcg8e] [*:1lgkcg8e]Woodman, c[/*:m:1lgkcg8e] [*:1lgkcg8e]Kotter, sp[/*:m:1lgkcg8e][/list:o:1lgkcg8e] Typical Phillies. Their lineup really declines once you get to the bottom half.

41Forever Oct 30 2017 08:50 PM Re: Manager Scorecard - Winter 2017-18

Kapler is the answer to a cool trivia question: Who was the last Major League player to appear in a game without a uniform number? For the final game at Tiger Stadium in 1999, players went out to their positions wearing the number of the best Tiger at that position. Kapler played center field. He represented Ty Cobb, who never wore a number.

Frayed Knot Nov 03 2017 01:12 PM Re: Manager Scorecard - Winter 2017-18 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 04 2017 03:32 AM

Only the Yanx remain rudderless at this point. TEAM MANAGER CONTRACT Mgr SINCE ANGELS Mike Scioscia 2018 Nov 1999 ASTROS AJ Hinch 2018 Sept 2014 ATHLETICS Bob Melvin 2019 June ‘11 BLUE JAYS John Gibbons 2019 + 2020 Option Nov ‘12 BRAVES Brian Snitker 2018 May ‘16 BREWERS Craig Counsel 2020 May ‘15 CARDINALS--- Mike Matheny 2020 Nov ‘11 CUBS Joe Maddon 2019 Oct ‘14 DBACKS Torey Luvello 2019 Nov ‘16 DODGERS Dave Roberts 2018 + 2019 Option Nov ‘15 GIANTS Bruce Bochy 2019 Oct '06 INDIANS Terry Francona 2020 Oct ‘12 MARINERS Scott Servais 2018 Oct ‘15 MARLINS Don Mattingly 2019 Nov ‘15 METS Mickey Callaway 2020 + Option for 2021 — 10/23/17 NATIONALS Dave Martinez 2020 + Option for 2021 10/29/17 ORIOLES Buck Showalter— 2018 July ‘10 PADRES Andy Green 2021 Nov ‘15 PHILLIES Gabe Kapler 2020 10/30/17 PIRATES Clint Hurdle 2021 Nov ‘10 RANGERS Jeff Banister 2018 + 2019 Option Oct ‘14 RAYS Kevin Cash 2019 Dec ‘14 RED SOX Alex Cora 2020 + Option for 2021 11/2/17 REDS Bryan Price 2018 Oct ‘13 ROCKIES Bud Black 2019 + 2020 Option Nov ‘16 ROYALS Ned Yost 2018 May ‘10 TIGERS Ron Gardenhire 2020 10/19/17 TWINS Paul Molitor 2020 Nov ‘14 WHITE SOX Rick Renteria 2019 Oct ‘16 YANKEES [crossout]Joe Girardi[/crossout] 2017 Will Not Return in 2018

Benjamin Grimm Nov 03 2017 01:14 PM Re: Manager Scorecard - Winter 2017-18

I wonder if Willie Randolph is sending them a resume?

Frayed Knot Nov 03 2017 01:18 PM Re: Manager Scorecard - Winter 2017-18

There was a column* in one of the papers campaigning for exactly that, and I'm thinking to myself; Please make it happen!. * IIRC it wasn't one of the regular sports guys but rather more a social commentary column about the lack of minority managers and, yes, it got in the "been a winner all his life" line in.

Edgy MD Nov 29 2017 07:36 PM Re: Manager Scorecard - Winter 2017-18

Almost December and the Yankees still don't have a manager. What's up with that? One thing I would conclude is that they weren't expecting to fire Girardi at all, and letting him go was likely as much about salary demands as lack of satisfaction with his performance.

Benjamin Grimm Nov 29 2017 07:45 PM Re: Manager Scorecard - Winter 2017-18

I read today that they'll be interviewing Carlos Beltran for the Yankees job.

Frayed Knot Dec 02 2017 02:23 AM Re: Manager Scorecard - Winter 2017-18 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Dec 05 2017 12:27 AM

And so Aaron Boone will be named the next manager of the Yanquis despite having no previous managerial or coaching experience. He was, you will recall, a Yanqui player for two months back in 2003, replacing Robin Ventura who was dealt at the same time to the Dodgers. He then famously injured his knee in an off-season basketball game prompting the Yanx to go out and get Alex Rodriguez. Details of his new contract as they become available. TEAM MANAGER CONTRACT Mgr SINCE ANGELS Mike Scioscia 2018 Nov 1999 ASTROS AJ Hinch 2018 Sept 2014 ATHLETICS Bob Melvin 2019 June ‘11 BLUE JAYS John Gibbons 2019 + 2020 Option Nov ‘12 BRAVES Brian Snitker 2018 May ‘16 BREWERS Craig Counsel 2020 May ‘15 CARDINALS--- Mike Matheny 2020 Nov ‘11 CUBS Joe Maddon 2019 Oct ‘14 DBACKS Torey Luvello 2019 Nov ‘16 DODGERS Dave Roberts 2018 + 2019 Option Nov ‘15 GIANTS Bruce Bochy 2019 Oct '06 INDIANS Terry Francona 2020 Oct ‘12 MARINERS Scott Servais 2018 Oct ‘15 MARLINS Don Mattingly 2019 Nov ‘15 METS Mickey Callaway 2020 + Option for 2021 — 10/23/17 NATIONALS Dave Martinez 2020 + Option for 2021 10/29/17 ORIOLES Buck Showalter— 2018 July ‘10 PADRES Andy Green 2021 Nov ‘15 PHILLIES Gabe Kapler 2020 10/30/17 PIRATES Clint Hurdle 2021 Nov ‘10 RANGERS Jeff Banister 2018 + 2019 Option Oct ‘14 RAYS Kevin Cash 2019 Dec ‘14 RED SOX Alex Cora 2020 + Option for 2021 11/2/17 REDS Bryan Price 2018 Oct ‘13 ROCKIES Bud Black 2019 + 2020 Option Nov ‘16 ROYALS Ned Yost 2018 May ‘10 TIGERS Ron Gardenhire 2020 10/19/17 TWINS Paul Molitor 2020 Nov ‘14 WHITE SOX Rick Renteria 2019 Oct ‘16 YANKEES Aaron Boone 2020 + Option for 2021 12/4/17

Edgy MD Dec 02 2017 03:12 AM Re: Manager Scorecard - Winter 2017-18

Well, his father has enough managing and coaching experience, so maybe the Yanks are hoping it's in his blood. Plus, he's a descendent of Daniel Boone, so killing bears is also in his blood. By the way, Bret's son got drafted this past summer, so that's now four generations of Boonies.

Nymr83 Dec 02 2017 05:14 AM Re: Manager Scorecard - Winter 2017-18

I can only hope this goes VERY poorly. lolyanks!

Mets Willets Point Dec 02 2017 06:25 PM Re: Manager Scorecard - Winter 2017-18

He was only a Yankee for two months? It seemed so much more significant.

Benjamin Grimm Dec 02 2017 06:52 PM Re: Manager Scorecard - Winter 2017-18

Back page headlines in both the News and the Post: YANK AARON Newsday has BLAST FROM THE PAST

SteveJRogers Dec 02 2017 07:25 PM Re: Manager Scorecard - Winter 2017-18

Mets Willets Point wrote: He was only a Yankee for two months? It seemed so much more significant. A Yankee-Red Sox ALCS 7th Game winning walk-off homer will make a short time Yankee feel like a Core 4 Member/Real Yanqui.

Frayed Knot Dec 05 2017 12:37 AM Re: Manager Scorecard - Winter 2017-18

So of the six new hires this winter, only Gardenhire to the Tigers was NOT a first time manager. Callaway, Boone, Cora, Martinez, and Kapler will be rookie skippers, and will do so in the not-so-small markets of New York, New York, Boston, Washington, and Philly

dgwphotography Dec 06 2017 06:56 PM Re: Manager Scorecard - Winter 2017-18

New band name: Aaron Boone's asshole smirk

Frayed Knot Apr 19 2018 07:26 PM Re: Manager Scorecard - Winter 2017-18

A 3-14 record and a league worst -46 run differential earned Reds manager Bryan Price the honor of the year's first firing. Jm Riggleman, whose last managing job had him telling the Nationals he wanted a longer term contract or he'd walk ... he walked, is the new interim skipper. TEAM MANAGER CONTRACT Mgr SINCE ANGELS Mike Scioscia 2018 Nov 1999 ASTROS AJ Hinch 2018 Sept 2014 ATHLETICS Bob Melvin 2019 June ‘11 BLUE JAYS John Gibbons 2019 + 2020 Option Nov ‘12 BRAVES Brian Snitker 2018 May ‘16 BREWERS Craig Counsel 2020 May ‘15 CARDINALS--- Mike Matheny 2020 Nov ‘11 CUBS Joe Maddon 2019 Oct ‘14 DBACKS Torey Luvello 2019 Nov ‘16 DODGERS Dave Roberts 2018 + 2019 Option Nov ‘15 GIANTS Bruce Bochy 2019 Oct '06 INDIANS Terry Francona 2020 Oct ‘12 MARINERS Scott Servais 2018 Oct ‘15 MARLINS Don Mattingly 2019 Nov ‘15 METS Mickey Callaway 2020 + Option for 2021 — 10/23/17 NATIONALS Dave Martinez 2020 + Option for 2021 10/29/17 ORIOLES Buck Showalter— 2018 July ‘10 PADRES Andy Green 2021 Nov ‘15 PHILLIES Gabe Kapler 2020 10/30/17 PIRATES Clint Hurdle 2021 Nov ‘10 RANGERS Jeff Banister 2018 + 2019 Option Oct ‘14 RAYS Kevin Cash 2019 Dec ‘14 RED SOX Alex Cora 2020 + Option for 2021 11/2/17 REDS [crossout]Bryan Price[/crossout] - Jim Riggleman Interim 4/19/18 ROCKIES Bud Black 2019 + 2020 Option Nov ‘16 ROYALS Ned Yost 2018 May ‘10 TIGERS Ron Gardenhire 2020 10/19/17 TWINS Paul Molitor 2020 Nov ‘14 WHITE SOX Rick Renteria 2019 Oct ‘16 YANKEES Aaron Boone 2020 + Option for 2021 12/4/17

Benjamin Grimm Apr 19 2018 07:31 PM Re: Manager Scorecard - Winter 2017-18

This has nothing to do with Bryan Price or Jim Riggleman, but I'm a little surprised that Willie Randolph's managerial career seems to have ended almost ten years ago. I'm not saying that he clearly deserves another shot, but I did think he'd at least be in the conversation more than he has. Maybe I'm not the only one who has a lasting image of how he managed like he was afraid to lose during the last weeks of the 2007 season.

Frayed Knot Apr 19 2018 07:42 PM Re: Manager Scorecard - Winter 2017-18

Willie's one and only job came right on the verge of the sabermetric era (not its existence but its more universal adoption by ML teams) which is something he seemed ill prepared for and is probably seen as too old to change. Younger and smarter is the current wave while older guys who want to run the game the same way they played it (1st inning bunting) and think the right attitude will get them through (I've been a winner all my life) probably aren't on the rolodexes (see what I did there?) of GMs and club Prez's

Benjamin Grimm Apr 19 2018 07:49 PM Re: Manager Scorecard - Winter 2017-18

Yeah, I can see that. I guess his time to get another job was more around 2010 or 2011 and that just never happened for him.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 19 2018 08:42 PM Re: Manager Scorecard - Winter 2017-18

Frayed Knot wrote: A 3-14 record and a league worst -46 run differential earned Reds manager Bryan Price the honor of the year's first firing. Jm Riggleman, whose last managing job had him telling the Nationals he wanted a longer term contract or he'd walk ... he walked, is the new interim skipper. We're slipping as a forum if we can't make a new thread called "The Price is WRONG, Bitch" What a stuck franchise the Reds have turned into. Sort of like the anti-Mets, can't develop a pitcher to save their souls, but plenty of hitters. Their GM was supposed to be a genius but he traded us Bruce for Dilson Hererra

Edgy MD Apr 19 2018 08:51 PM Re: Manager Scorecard - Winter 2017-18

The amazing thing about the Reds is that one of the three contracts making up the bulk of their payroll is going year after year to Homer Bailey, who is giving them replacement-level pitching at $20 million per season. They can't develop a pitcher, but they can sure pay one.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 19 2018 08:55 PM Re: Manager Scorecard - Winter 2017-18

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Their GM was supposed to be a genius but he traded us Bruce for Dilson Hererra And didn't we as a forum rue and lament the departure of Dilson Herrera?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 19 2018 09:14 PM Re: Manager Scorecard - Winter 2017-18

I think I was on board with the move, but let's check Let's Talk About Jay Bruce for the next couple hours

41Forever Apr 19 2018 09:59 PM Re: Manager Scorecard - Winter 2017-18

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I think I was on board with the move, but let's check Let's Talk About Jay Bruce for the next couple hours Wow. I'd forgotten that we almost lost Zimmo in that deal!

Frayed Knot Aug 05 2018 02:38 PM Re: Manager Scorecard - Winter 2017-18

[u:3fha8zuj]Nineteen is Enough[/u:3fha8zuj] Or at least it appears to be as wumors are wunning wampant that Angels skipper Mike Scioscia will walk away (or be pushed) at the end of the season. 2018 is his 19th year as manager in Anaheim -- by FAR the longest in MLB -- and also marks the final year of his current ten year contract. oe: although Scioscia's comment was to the overnight report was "poppycock". No, really, he actually said that. Ken Rosenthal, via 'The Athletic' is the source of the story.

bmfc1 Aug 05 2018 07:54 PM Re: Manager Scorecard - Winter 2017-18

https://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball ... 1.20304421 Shouldn't this be up to the new GM?

dgwphotography Aug 05 2018 07:55 PM Re: Manager Scorecard - Winter 2017-18

The new GM decided. Little Lord Fauntleroy is the GM, just not officially named.

Edgy MD Sep 07 2018 06:50 PM Re: Manager Scorecard - Winter 2017-18

Getting a head start on 2019, but it reports say John Gibbons will be done with the Blue Jays after this season, following 11 years over two tenures as Toronto manager. Gibb sports a career 783-777 record, so he'll have to fight to keep that mark above water as the Jays play out a string that includes three games each against the Sox, Yankees, and Astros.