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Who will manage the Mets? (split from Terry Hot Seat)

Ashie62 Sep 18 2017 10:24 PM

Just read an article in njAdvance that the Mets might be looking at baseball lifer Bob Geren for manager. Uck.

Edgy MD Sep 18 2017 11:32 PM Re: Terry Collins Hot Seat 2017

That is more or less the least surprising name possible. Not sure why it's an "Uck," however.

bmfc1 Sep 19 2017 11:07 AM Re: Terry Collins Hot Seat 2017

Nothing against Geren but it feels like another body from The Alderson Group, as if Sandy is yelling "NEXT!" I hope that they are considering a few candidates from outside his circle, such as Pedro Lopez (manager of the 51s) and Ron Gardenhire.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 19 2017 11:41 AM Re: Terry Collins Hot Seat 2017

Gardenhire is an interesting suggestion. Slight 86 Mets connection will rub it in Strawberry's face, plus he's got lots of grey hair, which appeals to Fred. Sandy & he have cancer in common. I'm not sure what the status is with either guy, but Gardy was in for surgery earlier this year. I still think Chip Hale is a decent idea in that he broke his managerial cherry since the last time he was considered a finalist. Geren was held in strong regard by the Mets but he said he left for the Dodgers to be close to his SoCal family. Not sure whether it looked to him that there was a better chance to break on top in LA than NYC.

Benjamin Grimm Sep 19 2017 12:39 PM Re: Terry Collins Hot Seat 2017

Ron Darling was speaking very highly of Cubs bench coach Dave Martinez when the Mets were in Chicago. I don't know if he'd be considered as a Mets candidate, since Ron probably isn't part of the screening process.

41Forever Sep 19 2017 12:42 PM Re: Terry Collins Hot Seat 2017

A couple things I didn't realize about Gardenhire. He's younger than I thought, turning 60 next month. Spent 13 seasons managing the Twins. Has one Manager of the Year award, and was runner-up five times. He won the division six times -- but never made it to the World Series. Not sure why he didn't get another managing gig after the separation with the Twins -- unless he wasn't seeking one. He was bench coach with the DBacks this season before the cancer diagnosis. If Sandy is looking for a proven winner with a lot of experience, he seems to be a good fit. Seems like an easier sell to fans than a Hale/Geren type with less experience.

Benjamin Grimm Sep 19 2017 01:09 PM Re: Terry Collins Hot Seat 2017

I hope that "selling to fans" gets as little consideration as possible.

MFS62 Sep 19 2017 01:32 PM Re: Terry Collins Hot Seat 2017

I'd be happy with Gardenhire as the manager. I like his track record. Later

Edgy MD Sep 19 2017 01:37 PM Re: Terry Collins Hot Seat 2017

I imagine Pedro Lopez would consider himself to be on the inside of Alderson's circle. He predates Alderson, but Sandy's been signing off on him long enough. He also has seen more of Smith and Rosario and Nimmo than any Mets manager.

HahnSolo Sep 19 2017 01:41 PM Re: Terry Collins Hot Seat 2017

Gardy strikes me as an old-school guy whose resume would quickly find its way to the bottom of Sandy's recycling bin. I never followed his game to game strategies, so I don't know... but I sort of remember that he was not a favorite of the more analytically inclined baseball guys. Didn't he also get routinely bashed in our MFY threads for questionable decisions? Martinez seems to be a guy gaining a lot of traction as a future managerial guy. Another candidate who is expected to get interviews this offseason is one time CPF whipping boy Alex Cora, now a bench coach with the Astros.

d'Kong76 Sep 19 2017 01:43 PM Re: Terry Collins Hot Seat 2017

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I hope that "selling to fans" gets as little consideration as possible. I'm pretty sure when the front office is sitting around in a white-board session with a list of managerial candidates they will not give a rat's ass hair what the fans will think or say. They don't care one way or the other on anything, why would they think they need to 'sell' the manager?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 19 2017 01:53 PM Re: Terry Collins Hot Seat 2017

The manager needs to sell the manager, though. I'd be very surprised if terry would even be here today were he not liked very much by the media who are the conduit to fans.

Frayed Knot Sep 19 2017 01:58 PM Re: Terry Collins Hot Seat 2017

HahnSolo wrote: Didn't [Gardenhire] also get routinely bashed in our MFY threads for questionable decisions? YES!!!!

d'Kong76 Sep 19 2017 02:01 PM Re: Terry Collins Hot Seat 2017

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: The manager needs to sell the manager, though. I'd be very surprised if terry would even be here today were he not liked very much by the media who are the conduit to fans. Agreed, that's been noted here and everywhere a hundred times. What I mean is there may be teams that operate things like politicians seeking voter approval, where they stand in the polls, etc. but I don't think the Wilpon's are one of those types of owners. (I really don't think many team owners thinks like a governor or a mayor but just saying where I was going with that)

Edgy MD Sep 19 2017 02:06 PM Re: Terry Collins Hot Seat 2017

Oh, I think the Wilps want to do fan-pleasing moves. I just think the means by which they listen to fans and the times they choose to acquiesce to fans have been ill-considered. So they alternate between kowtowing to the dopiest fans and ignoring all fans altogether. I think Alderson has been a benevolently detached figure in this regard.

Ashie62 Sep 19 2017 05:35 PM Re: Terry Collins Hot Seat 2017

David Wright. Todays managerial job is leading and getting the respect of your millenial highly paid roster. I believe David can do that. Baseball strategy and such? A friggin monkey could do it. Much of that is your assistant's job anyway. I guy like Geren. I was only down on Geren as manager cause I see him as an Alderson puppet. . I am fine with Gardenhire.

Edgy MD Sep 19 2017 06:14 PM temp1

For an Alderson puppet, Geren sure didn't feel any strings stopping him from jumping to another organization for the same job.

Frayed Knot Sep 19 2017 06:21 PM Re: Terry Collins Hot Seat 2017

I'm not sure what an "Alderson Puppet" even means.

Ceetar Sep 19 2017 06:30 PM Re: Terry Collins Hot Seat 2017

Frayed Knot wrote: I'm not sure what an "Alderson Puppet" even means. Before he took the Mets job Sandy was moonlighting on Sesame Street.

d'Kong76 Sep 19 2017 07:06 PM Re: Terry Collins Hot Seat 2017

Edgy MD wrote: For an Alderson puppet, Geren sure didn't feel any strings stopping him from jumping to another organization for the same job. He had scissors and ran with them.

Ashie62 Sep 19 2017 09:34 PM Re: Terry Collins Hot Seat 2017

Alderson would be happy to hire a "good old boy" retread like Bob Geren that would not challenge him in any way.

Benjamin Grimm Sep 19 2017 09:34 PM Re: Terry Collins Hot Seat 2017

Do you think David Wright would challenge Sandy?

Edgy MD Sep 19 2017 10:46 PM Re: Terry Collins Hot Seat 2017

Ashie62 wrote: Alderson would be happy to hire a "good old boy" retread like Bob Geren that would not challenge him in any way. Who are you quoting? What's the material difference between "retread" and experienced? If this is about having lost all faith in Sandy Alderson and wanting somebody who goes against him, isn't any hire he makes something to oppose?

Ashie62 Sep 20 2017 06:26 PM Re: Terry Collins Hot Seat 2017

I can't speak in terms of if,any or must which the exception of asking for forgiveness of my sins. What I would do as an existing owner. 1. Have a meeting with my finance people, GM, Manager and key employees to assess the season and make financial projections for 2018. 2 Meet with Sandy Alderson. Ask Sandy if he wants to stay and discuss his vision on building the team going forward. 3. Meet with Terry Collins and discuss the same as with Sandy. 4. Keep Sandy or I would look look for a GM with a Dr. in Sports Management. I want a guy who know money in a private equity and sports sense. 5. Discuss team manager status with GM. Hire if need be. As owner I am putting out Edgardo Alfonzo's name for consideration. 6. Allow my GM to think independently when making decisions. I would add as new owner please no long term contracts of any kind. Lastly, if Ashie is the brandy new owner I would thank Sandy and Terry for their service and hire my own guys. THE END.

Ceetar Sep 20 2017 06:39 PM Re: Terry Collins Hot Seat 2017

with exception of the dumb idea of 'no long term contracts' the Mets do all of those every year.

Edgy MD Sep 20 2017 07:00 PM Re: Terry Collins Hot Seat 2017

So cast a broad net, looking at outside people, and then hire your "own guys." But not Sandy, who allegedly is too loyal to his own guys.

Ashie62 Sep 20 2017 09:11 PM Re: Terry Collins Hot Seat 2017

How many companies in any business have a complete change of management when ownership changes? The answer is most.

Ceetar Sep 20 2017 09:15 PM Re: Terry Collins Hot Seat 2017

Ashie62 wrote: How many companies in any business have a complete change of management when ownership changes? The answer is most. The answer is few.

sharpie Sep 20 2017 09:23 PM Re: Terry Collins Hot Seat 2017

The answer is some.

Ashie62 Sep 20 2017 09:46 PM Re: Terry Collins Hot Seat 2017

It will be interesting to see how it all plays out.

Frayed Knot Sep 22 2017 11:19 PM Re: Terry Collins Hot Seat 2017

Brad Ausmus joins the list of managerial maybes as the Tigers decline to pick up his option for next year. I wish I could say I have an opinion of Mr. Ausmus as a skipper but I really don't. Detroit had a good team when he got there and he won a division his first year (2014) but the team has been aging and slipping ever since and lately they've been actively bailing. He's a bit Girardi-like in his background: Similarly aged [Ausmus is 48, Girardi 52] and the products of a good education [Dartmouth and Northwestern] who carved out lengthy careers [18 seasons vs 15] as light hitting catchers [669 w/80 HRs vs 666 w/36] due at least in part to their defense and brains.

Benjamin Grimm Sep 26 2017 12:35 PM temp2

This article in the New York Post says that in addition to Bob Geren and Chip Hale, the Mets are considering Kevin Long, Robin Ventura, Alex Cora, and Moose Stubing. Odds are high Mets next Terry Collins will be a familiar face I may have to refamiliarize myself with Alex Cora's face.

bmfc1 Sep 26 2017 02:03 PM Re: Terry Collins Hot Seat 2017

http://nypost.com/2017/09/26/odds-are-h ... liar-face/ Cora. Ventura. Long.

Frayed Knot Sep 28 2017 01:19 PM Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

Joe McEwing's name gets a mention this morning courtesy of "an industry source". Such news is of course accompanied by the standard misleading info concerning him and Randy Johnson. 'Super Joe' has spent the last six years as a coach for the ChiSox including this most recent one as the bench coach. I'm a bit disturbed by the fact that every mentioned candidate so far has NYM ties, as if that's a requirement going forward and anyone without such credentials is being ignored. Hard to say from here if that's really the case or merely that the more familiar names are the more obvious candidates and therefore the ones being thrown out there in the early stages of a job search that isn't even officially on yet. I'd prefer to think that the Sandy era -- assuming that's still a thing -- has closed the book on being so strictly provincial.

41Forever Sep 28 2017 01:31 PM Re: Terry Collins Hot Seat 2017

My favorite Super Joe story: While Doug Mientkiewicz was fielding calls of concern, David Wright was receiving ridicule from friends who watched him get ejected Monday night after sliding out of the baseline to break up a double play. Joe McEwing, the former Mets infielder, phoned Wright and said, "What were you doing, trying to take out Andruw Jones?" referring to the Atlanta center fielder, who plays a couple of hundred feet behind the baseline.

Benjamin Grimm Sep 28 2017 01:31 PM Re: Terry Collins Hot Seat 2017

I don't mind if the next manager has Mets ties, but you're right, it shouldn't be a requirement and hopefully it's not. Fun fact: If the next manager turns out not to be a former Mets player, it will be the first time since Casey Stengel-Wes Westrum-Salty Parker that the Mets will have had three consecutive managers who hadn't previously played for them.

bmfc1 Sep 28 2017 02:48 PM Re: Terry Collins Hot Seat 2017

Heyman has 12 candidates https://www.fanragsports.com/heyman-12- ... s-manager/

Benjamin Grimm Sep 28 2017 02:53 PM Re: Terry Collins Hot Seat 2017

It's NOT going to be David Wright. A lot of Mets names on that list. Todd Zeile is interesting. He appeared a bunch of times on Mets Hot Stove this past winter and he does seem to be pretty smart.

Frayed Knot Sep 28 2017 02:58 PM Re: Terry Collins Hot Seat 2017

11 of the 12 have NYM connections -- only Brad Ausmus doesn't -- plus one more (Manny Acta) from among eight he lists as "field" candidates.

metirish Sep 28 2017 02:59 PM Re: Terry Collins Hot Seat 2017

12. David Wright. Mets icon, would make a great manager one day – if he’s interested. He is serious about his playing comeback, however. A great manager one day, based on what?

Benjamin Grimm Sep 28 2017 03:01 PM Re: Terry Collins Hot Seat 2017

Probably because he talks to the press.

metirish Sep 28 2017 03:02 PM Re: Terry Collins Hot Seat 2017

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Probably because he talks to the press. Yes, my thoughts exactly, nice guy , good quotes , media guys love him

batmagadanleadoff Sep 28 2017 03:02 PM Re: Terry Collins Hot Seat 2017

metirish wrote: 12. David Wright. Mets icon, would make a great manager one day – if he’s interested. He is serious about his playing comeback, however. A great manager one day, based on what? You beat me to it. Yeah! Based on what?

HahnSolo Sep 28 2017 03:32 PM Re: Terry Collins Hot Seat 2017

That was a pretty lousy, lazy article from Heyman. Zeile is the only name I hadn't heard elsewhere. What was with the multiple NY Post mentions in the Ventura entry? Is there some kind of zing at Mike Puma that I'm missing?

Ceetar Sep 28 2017 04:53 PM Re: Terry Collins Hot Seat 2017

HahnSolo wrote: That was a pretty lousy, lazy article from Heyman. Zeile is the only name I hadn't heard elsewhere. What was with the multiple NY Post mentions in the Ventura entry? Is there some kind of zing at Mike Puma that I'm missing? I assumed as much because it was Heyman, and late September, talking about something that hasn't even happened yet. Did Ventura have a beef with the post when he was here maybe? who knows.

Edgy MD Sep 28 2017 04:55 PM temp4

In truth, the "based on what?" hammer applies to all managers. There's nothing like an accepted objective standard for how to judge them, let alone how to judge which players are qualified to be future managers.

Benjamin Grimm Sep 28 2017 04:55 PM Re: Terry Collins Hot Seat 2017

So how did Ventura do as a White Sox manager anyway?

Edgy MD Sep 28 2017 05:07 PM Re: Terry Collins Hot Seat 2017

Well, answering that would require a widely accepted objective standard. His team improved by six games in his first season and then regressed by 22 games. They steadily improved incrementally over the next three seasons, but never reached .500 again. To his credit, I guess, his tenure ended with his resignation, initiated by him, rather than his firing. On the other hand, they regressed starkly again this year in their first season without him, so maybe he needs to wear a "quitter" label. His last year was marred by two kinda-ugly-but-kinda-colorful clubhouse incidents, one in which Chris Sale cut up the throwback jersey that he didn't want to wear for a start, and bitched that Ventura wouldn't back him, and another in which VP Ken Williams banned DH Adam Laroche's son from the clubhouse during spring training. I concluded that these probably precipitated his departure. PLAYER REVOLT is a tough thing for a manager to have on his LinkedIn page.

Ceetar Sep 28 2017 05:09 PM Re: Terry Collins Hot Seat 2017

I kinda like Ventura but it's just a gut/nostalgia thing.

41Forever Sep 28 2017 05:18 PM Re: Terry Collins Hot Seat 2017

Heck, Sale didn't just cut up his jersey. I think he cut up EVERYONE's jersey, which led eventually to his own departure.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 28 2017 05:32 PM Re: Terry Collins Hot Seat 2017

I feel like the White Sox are always trying some crazy idea for a manager. Sometimes it works and other times not. I can't imagine RV even gets a phone call. And Zeile? I wouldn't guess he'd have the slightest interest. I feel like the Wilpon-Mets will never go with a rookie skipper ever again unless there's some extenuating circumstances like the minority hiring hit they carried out for Selig, so that's another strike against Zeile, along with Super Joe. And David Wright. I get a good bench-coach vibe from Geren but I think he's a little un-New York.

Frayed Knot Sep 28 2017 06:00 PM Re: Terry Collins Hot Seat 2017

The ChiSox also tried that deal during Ventura's watch where they signed a bunch of FAs (2015) in an attempt to jump from zero to sixty in one season. OF Melky Cabrera, DH Adam LaRoche, SP Jeff Samardizja, and RP David Robertson were all imported at the same time as they hoped to combine them with the hot start of Cuban 1B Jose Abreu the previous year. Problem is, not only does that strategy typically fail -- and this one did as did the SDP who tried the same thing -- but it tends to become an even bigger drag as you get into years two & three at which point you're forced to break things down and start over again, something the ChiSox really just completed this summer and it'll probably be at least 2019 (if then) before they start to see the benefits. No manager who winds up in charge of failed experiments like that wind up looking very good.

Benjamin Grimm Sep 28 2017 06:13 PM Re: Terry Collins Hot Seat 2017

Crazy idea that certainly won't happen: Hire Alex Cora as a rookie manager and let Terry Collins be his bench coach.

G-Fafif Sep 28 2017 06:28 PM Re: Terry Collins Hot Seat 2017

bmfc1 wrote: Heyman has 12 candidates https://www.fanragsports.com/heyman-12- ... s-manager/ Heyman and those who write these types of columns have 800 words to fill.

Edgy MD Sep 28 2017 06:34 PM Re: Terry Collins Hot Seat 2017

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I get a good bench-coach vibe from Geren but I think he's a little un-New York. I imagine having been a backup catcher for the Yankees is as good a résumé enhancer for a managerial aspirant as any. Geren, Joe Girardi, Jerry Narron, Joel Skinner ... Know what else seems to be a predictor of a future in managing? A playing career that includes a detour to Japan.

Benjamin Grimm Sep 28 2017 07:28 PM Re: Terry Collins Hot Seat 2017

Edgy MD wrote: I imagine having been a backup catcher for the Yankees is as good a résumé enhancer for managerial aspirant as any. Geren, Joe Girardi, Jerry Narron, Joel Skinner ... Ralph Houk too, right?

Edgy MD Sep 28 2017 07:32 PM Re: Terry Collins Hot Seat 2017

Sure, but he's not in the job market at the current time.

Benjamin Grimm Sep 28 2017 07:33 PM temp5

Oh, they're not considering dead guys? Klapsich didn't mention that.

Ashie62 Sep 29 2017 10:49 PM Re: Terry Collins Hot Seat 2017 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 05 2017 01:41 PM

DELETE

d'Kong76 Sep 29 2017 11:02 PM Re: Terry Collins Hot Seat 2017

Is that Penny?

Ashie62 Sep 30 2017 02:08 AM Re: Terry Collins Hot Seat 2017

Yes!!!!

Frayed Knot Sep 30 2017 02:29 AM Re: Terry Collins Hot Seat 2017

Not saying that I'd look nearly as good as that while naked and in that pose or anything, but at least I can claim that my blond hair and chest are real.

Edgy MD Sep 30 2017 03:08 AM Re: Terry Collins Hot Seat 2017

I'm not sure what the Terry Collins/Porny Pornins connection is.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 03 2017 01:54 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

The Post reports that the Mets will try to kick off the manager search by interviewing Geren and Cora. Mike Puma wrote: Indications are general manager Sandy Alderson will begin interviewing candidates this week, and may first attempt to speak with Bob Geren and Alex Cora, before both become ensconced in the postseason with their respective teams. The first 2 manager candidates Mets likely want to meet

MFS62 Oct 03 2017 01:56 PM Re: Terry Collins Hot Seat 2017

Frayed Knot wrote: Not saying that I'd look nearly as good as that while naked and in that pose or anything, but at least I can claim that my blond hair and chest are real. So are hers. And I'll let you wonder if I really know. Later

Ceetar Oct 03 2017 02:09 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

That photo is also probably illicit.

d'Kong76 Oct 03 2017 02:22 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

My guess the other day was it's probably fake. I found another one of her snuggling with Jeff Wilpon but decided it would be in poor taste to share.

Ceetar Oct 03 2017 02:27 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

d'Kong76 wrote: My guess the other day was it's probably fake. I found another one of her snuggling with Jeff Wilpon but decided it would be in poor taste to share. Well she was one of the ones (Like Justin Verlander) that had a bunch of private photos leaked/stolen.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 03 2017 02:37 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

That's like kinda stupid for a site some of us are scrolling at work but I guess it had been a whole page since that poster put up no-account bullshit.

Ceetar Oct 03 2017 03:33 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

We're only like 6 posts from a new page now

Ceetar Oct 03 2017 03:33 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

latest word is Kevin Long is on the list of managerial candidates.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 03 2017 07:24 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

Mike Vaccaro of the Post endorses Alex Cora. Why Mets should screw the safe route and give Alex Cora his shot

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 03 2017 07:33 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

From Vaccaro's peice, a no-so-ringing endiresement of Coras readiness: “His relatability skills to players, his baseball intellect [are] all impressive, and his transition to coaching has gone well. I think his name will always be in the middle of the conversation until the right fit is found. But he will manage. Without a doubt in my mind.” Also Vaccaro says that Alderson's vote "is the only one that counts" although we know full well that Fred and Jeff will want their fingerprints on this as well. I don;t have a strong opinion on Cora other than he'd surely be treated with kid gloves off the bat, vs. a Hale or Geren or other experienced guy

Mets Willets Point Oct 04 2017 12:37 AM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

Benjamin Grimm Oct 05 2017 12:55 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

More from the Post: Carlos Beltran seconds Mike Vaccaro's endorsement of Alex Cora: Beltran: Mets ‘should look into’ this managerial candidate Carlos Beltran wrote: The Mets should look into him, no doubt about it and look how well we have played here. He will be a great manager. He takes a lot of pride in studying the game. He takes a lot of pride into his relationship with the players. I’ve seen that here. That’s huge in baseball. He gets to know you as a person, and he knows what buttons to push. He goes around the clubhouse to make sure everyone is doing well, families are doing well, so he cares beyond putting out a good lineup and making sure that he puts the situation in a team to win. When a team plays well it’s a reflection on chemistry, it’s a reflection on communication, it’s a reflection on the coach staff, a lot of things. Alex has been a huge part of this team. I hope he gets the opportunity. He will be a good manager. A.J. Hinch wrote: He’s very sharp, sees the game in an extraordinarily deep way, has really connected well with players in our clubhouse and spent a lot of time developing relationships and being the bench-coach liaison to the clubhouse that I asked him to be. I think he’s grown and I think that’s key because it’s not easy to just — no matter how long your career — to jump into a coaching role. Trust me, I know how things can go when you jump right into a job, it’s not easy. So for him to be able to learn, to grow, to evolve, become a better coach. … Those are characteristics as to why he is a hot name in every opening that’s coming up so far this offseason or this postseason and why one day he’s going to manage, whether it’s now or later.

Ashie62 Oct 05 2017 01:30 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

New page. Why no talk of Edgardo Alfonso. No MLB experience I guess. He seems like a patient man that would do well.

Ashie62 Oct 05 2017 01:32 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: That's like kinda stupid for a site some of us are scrolling at work but I guess it had been a whole page since that poster put up no-account bullshit. Didn't think of the at work scrolling. Won't do it again. Now get back to what you are being paid for.

Centerfield Oct 05 2017 01:32 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

d'Kong76 wrote: My guess the other day was it's probably fake. I found another one of her snuggling with Jeff Wilpon but decided it would be in poor taste to share. Who is this and why do we have her picture?

Benjamin Grimm Oct 05 2017 01:37 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

I think it's because, unlike Ralph Houk, she's alive and therefore can potentially manage the Mets.

Ashie62 Oct 05 2017 01:42 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

Deleted photo. LGM Sorry to all offended. Ill thought out attempt at humour.

Edgy MD Oct 05 2017 01:47 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

There is talk of Edgardo Alfonzo. Plenty of talk. I imagine if you polled Mets fans, he'd be at or very near the top of the list. Working against him is that conservative big league clubs prefer experienced dudes, and Edgardo's only experience is a single season managing a short season club with a long history of success to a Stengelian .316 winning percentage.

Centerfield Oct 05 2017 01:50 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

Ashie62 wrote: Deleted photo. LGM Sorry to all offended. Ill thought out attempt at humour. Not at all offended. Just didn't get the reference. Who is Penny?

Ceetar Oct 05 2017 01:53 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

Kaley Cuoco plays Penny on the Big Bang Theory.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 06 2017 12:43 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

More endorsements. Bill Madden of the Daily News says the Mets should pick Joe McEwing. He also says that of the open manager jobs (Mets, Phillies, Tigers, and possibly Red Sox) the Mets are the least appealing choice to prospective candidates. He cites the way the Mets treated Terry Collins, the "apparent determination of ownership to cut payroll" and the "relentless scrutiny and expectations that come with managing in New York." Bobby Valentine endorses two candidates: Joe McEwing and Robin Ventura.

Centerfield Oct 06 2017 01:18 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

I find I'm not all that into this managerial search. I think it's mainly because I have no idea how these guys will manage. I think I'd like someone smart. I think Ventura fits that bill. Alex Cora too. Everyone else I have no idea. I'm glad Wally Backman is not a candidate. He never struck me as particularly bright.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 06 2017 01:20 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

That's where I'm at. I want the smart guy. I keep reading how smart Alex Cora is. If true, then I'd be happy to have him.

Frayed Knot Oct 06 2017 01:21 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

Centerfield wrote: I'm glad Wally Backman is not a candidate. He never struck me as particularly bright. But he's fiery, and he's scrappy, and he's clutch, and he'll do whatever it takes!!!

Edgy MD Oct 06 2017 01:36 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Bobby Valentine endorses two candidates: Joe McEwing and Robin Ventura. Hasn't Bobby previously said that Ventura would have been the last player from his Mets teams that he considered future-manager material?

Ceetar Oct 06 2017 02:51 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

Edgy MD wrote: Bobby Valentine endorses two candidates: Joe McEwing and Robin Ventura. Hasn't Bobby previously said that Ventura would have been the last player from his Mets teams that he considered future-manager material? yes. But people change too. Bobby wasn't speaking from current interactions with him.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 06 2017 08:23 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

Mike Puma in the Post says that Sandy Alomar Jr. is also being considered: Mets target another former player for next manager Sandy Alomar Jr. is steady on the Mets’ radar. The former All-Star catcher — who finished his career with the Mets in 2007 — is under strong consideration to be interviewed for the team’s managerial opening, an industry source indicated on Friday. The 51-year-old Alomar has drawn managerial interest in recent years. He was a finalist for the Indians job — after serving as interim manager — when the team hired Terry Francona after the 2012 season. Alomar also interviewed for the Diamondbacks’ opening following the 2014 season, when Hale was hired.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 06 2017 08:28 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

If the Mets hire Sandy Alomar we won't be able to refer to the Mets manager and GM by just their first names anymore. It will have to be "Sandy A." and "Sandy A." instead.

Ashie62 Oct 06 2017 10:27 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

Sandy B. could be Sandy Beach.

Mets Willets Point Oct 07 2017 02:04 AM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

I think like 90% of a MLB manager's job these days is keeping his players happy and maintaining cordial relations with the media. So basically, no assholes who will fight with their players or fight with the press, and we should be fine.

Frayed Knot Oct 07 2017 02:27 AM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

Definitely. It's much more a people-managing job now than the strategy and direction-setting director for the organization the way it used to be. As Ron Darling said in the interview that bmfc linked earlier today, in his day a player would consider it a good year if he went the entire season basically without having a full conversation with either the manager or the general manger. Much more touchy-feely these days with the tone for strategy being set from a level or two above the field manager's head.

MFS62 Oct 07 2017 07:54 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

If I were doing the interviewing (OK, I can dream, can't I?) the first question would be "describe your toughest loss". If the answer contained any flavor of "we battled", my next comment would be, "Next!" Then, when I ask what they would expect from their players, the key words I'd listen for would be "fundamentals", "Heads-up", "opportunistic" and "Productive outs". That would at least get them to the second round of interviews. Later

Benjamin Grimm Oct 08 2017 02:44 AM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

Tona LaRussa endorses... Chip Hale! Tony LaRussa: This Mets manager candidate is ‘total package’ Tony LaRussa wrote: “Chip is really an intelligent guy and he’s a competitive guy. You put those two things together, and he’s got some personality, so you go into New York and you have got personality, smarts, toughness, that works there. It works anywhere, but you get tested in New York.”

Benjamin Grimm Oct 09 2017 01:42 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

Jon Heyman says that Brad Ausmus is a candidate for the Mets job. Jon Heyman wrote: Brad Ausmus, who was let go by the Detroit Tigers following their last-place finish, is on the radar of the New York Mets and is in fact said to be a candidate to replace Terry Collins. The Mets have reached out to Ausmus and they’ve had one conversation to date. Ausmus, the erudite Dartmouth graduate with a distinguished 18-year big-league career as a catcher, is in some ways an opposite of Collins, who resigned after seven years, the longest tenure of any Mets skipper in their 56-year history. Ausmus is believed to be a candidate in multiple places, so the rival Philadelphia Phillies could be in play, too. Coincidentally, like Ausmus, Mets GM Sandy Alderson and Phillies GM Matt Klentak also went to Dartmouth – not that that’s the main consideration.

Frayed Knot Oct 09 2017 02:06 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

'Trapper' John McIntyre also went to Dartmouth where he played ball and even once threw a two-hit shutout vs Harvard*. Also, like Sandy, he's a veteran and is probably real smart seeing as how he's a doctor and stuff. Not sure about his current availability though. Given his service in the Korean War he's likely to be around 90 years old by now and of the three actors to portray him on small and large screens only Elliott Gould survives. * or so he claimed in the book. He also QB'd the Dartmouth football team and was a low handicap golfer

Edgy MD Oct 10 2017 04:25 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

Anybody taking seriously the speculation centered around John Farrell (in a hot seat following Boston's early exit from playoffs) or Joe Girardi (contract set to expire after World Series)? Mike Puma says he has an inside source suggesting the Mets are looking at Girardi. If he does, that's one reckless insider, opening the Mets up for accusations of tampering.

d'Kong76 Oct 10 2017 04:38 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

I would consider retiring from metsfandom if they hired a discarded Girardi.

bmfc1 Oct 11 2017 02:35 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

How about a discarded John Farrell? He managed BOS to the AL East title but was "relieved of his duties" today. http://m.mlb.com/news/article/258211184 ... d=27118122

Mets Willets Point Oct 11 2017 02:45 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

3 AL East titles in 5 years. He got ejected in Game 4 of the ALDS on Monday. I wonder if it was his call or acting manager Gary DiSarcina to bring Sale back out in the 8th when it appeared that Sale was gassed getting the final out of the 7th?

d'Kong76 Oct 11 2017 03:01 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

bmfc1 wrote: How about a discarded John Farrell? He managed BOS to the AL East title but was "relieved of his duties" today. Would be crazy not to give him a good long interview imo.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 15 2017 10:07 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

Mike Puma wrote: The 50-year-old Long has interviewed with the Mets for their managerial opening, according to an industry source, and will now wait to find out if he becomes a finalist for the job. The expectation is general manager Sandy Alderson will continue his first round of interviews through this week. Others in the mix to succeed Terry Collins have included Brad Ausmus, Alex Cora, Robin Ventura, Mickey Calloway, Joe McEwing, Sandy Alomar Jr., Bob Geren and Chip Hale, but it’s unclear which of them besides Long already has received an interview. According to an industry source, McEwing, the White Sox’s bench coach, will interview with the Mets within the next few days. Cora, the Astros’ bench coach, also will interview this week, according to a source. I find that I'm rooting for Alex Cora to get the job. But I'd still be happy with Chip Hale. Who's Mickey Calloway?

seawolf17 Oct 15 2017 10:52 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Who's Mickey Calloway? Pitching coach for the Indians. 4-11, 6.27 in 130 innings over parts of five AL seasons from 1999-2004.

Edgy MD Oct 16 2017 12:40 AM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

His hair hasn't turned gray yet. Also, he's got a nice, big Art Howe mandible.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 17 2017 12:32 AM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

Mike Puma reporting in the Post that the Mets will interview Manny Acta this week, and... that Brad Ausmus has declined an interview request from the Mets.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 17 2017 12:34 AM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

And Anthony DiComo, quoting Jon Heyman, says that the Mets are NOT interested in Robin Ventura after all.

Edgy MD Oct 17 2017 01:10 AM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Mike Puma reporting in the Post that the Mets will interview Manny Acta this week, and... that Brad Ausmus has declined an interview request from the Mets. I don't care if the Mets are somehow seen as a stinky turd of a résumé stain, wtf can afford to turn down MLB manager job interviews?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 17 2017 11:48 AM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

The Hey Man report made it seem as though Ventura and Ausmus were turning the Mets' interviews down but I think his sources are those guys and not Sandy. Maybe Robin forgot to update his resume.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 17 2017 12:43 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

Kristie Ackert reports today that the Mets will interview Cora today, but he's "not considered high on the Mets' list of candidates" and is more likely to end up in Boston. On Wednesday, she says, the Mets will interview McEwing, Acta, and Mickey Callaway. I believe they've already interviewed Kevin Long. I haven't heard any recent speculation at all about Chip Hale or Bob Geren. Perhaps they're no longer being considered? Or maybe they never really were?

Edgy MD Oct 17 2017 04:54 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

Getting spurned by Ausmus is kind of sticking in my craw a little bit. I can't tell you much about him, but he's certainly one of the handsomer managers around. Maybe he's already been promised the Boston job, but they can't hire him until they go through an official hiring process, and interview X amount other candidates.

41Forever Oct 17 2017 05:29 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

Edgy MD wrote: Getting spurned by Ausmus is kind of sticking in my craw a little bit. I can't tell you much about him, but he's certainly one of the handsomer managers around. Maybe he's already been promised the Boston job, but they can't hire him until they go through an official hiring process, and interview X amount other candidates. There wasn't a ton of love for him in Detroit. People have been calling for him to be fired for a couple years.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 17 2017 06:05 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

just in a matter of taste i'd prefer a street-smart high-school dropout in the dugout and leave the Ivy League guys to apply for jobs in the front office.

d'Kong76 Oct 17 2017 06:06 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

Is Lenny Dykstra out of jail?

Ceetar Oct 17 2017 06:31 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

d'Kong76 wrote: Is Lenny Dykstra out of jail? yes I believe he was "me too"ing someone just the other day on Twitter.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 18 2017 05:16 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I haven't heard any recent speculation at all about Chip Hale or Bob Geren. Perhaps they're no longer being considered? Or maybe they never really were? According to Newsday, "sources" say that Hale and Geren are, in fact, not under consideration. Ausmus doesn't want to manage the Mets. Ventura doesn't want to manage at all. From what we can tell at this point, it looks like there are five, or perhaps six, actual candidates: Long, Cora, McEwing, Callaway, and Acta. Alomar's name hasn't come up recently, but I haven't seen where he's been ruled out. The current buzz seems to indicate that Long may be the front-runner. I'm not sure how I feel about that.

Centerfield Oct 18 2017 05:40 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Benjamin Grimm wrote: I haven't heard any recent speculation at all about Chip Hale or Bob Geren. Perhaps they're no longer being considered? Or maybe they never really were? According to Newsday, "sources" say that Hale and Geren are, in fact, not under consideration. Ausmus doesn't want to manage the Mets. Ventura doesn't want to manage at all. From what we can tell at this point, it looks like there are five, or perhaps six, actual candidates: Long, Cora, McEwing, Callaway, and Acta. Alomar's name hasn't come up recently, but I haven't seen where he's been ruled out. The current buzz seems to indicate that Long may be the front-runner. I'm not sure how I feel about that. I find I'm not thrilled about it for silliest of reasons. Like I've said before, I think I want a smart guy. And Kevin Long doesn't seem smart to me. I mean, I haven't heard anything about him being smart, but I also haven't heard that he isn't smart. But for me, he doesn't look smart. Something about him. So I find myself less than thrilled. I told you it was silly.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 18 2017 06:24 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

I think I have the same feeling. Kevin Long has been around for a few years now, and I haven't gotten any kind of a "smart vibe" from him. That doesn't mean that he isn't smart. He may be very smart. He may know all the best words. But I am hearing a lot about how smart Alex Cora is, so I'm more interested in Cora than Long. But who knows? Maybe Kevin Long will become the greatest manager in Mets history. Even with his dumb face.

Edgy MD Oct 18 2017 07:18 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

I want Brad Ausmus because supporting him is the least I could do after all those years using his photos for my Match.com profile. [fimg=453:2iqayu7p]https://i.pinimg.com/564x/6a/66/34/6a6634807e88d7de380256fd204003d5.jpg[/fimg:2iqayu7p] [fimg=247:2iqayu7p]http://instinctmagazine.com/sites/instinctmagazine.com/files/images/blog_posts/Jonathan%20Higbee/2013/11/04/brad3.jpg[/fimg:2iqayu7p] [fimg=338:2iqayu7p]https://i.pinimg.com/736x/1f/72/02/1f720263b2e6f5d9cf30481466b27995--tigers-baseball-detroit-tigers.jpg[/fimg:2iqayu7p] [fimg=362:2iqayu7p]https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a8/8b/09/a88b09b62af36042b8fd55b1f81ed4ea.jpg[/fimg:2iqayu7p]

Nymr83 Oct 18 2017 07:29 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

I want whoever will abolish the "closer" position and use the best relievers in the hardest spots, without regard for inning. Someone who acts like the "save" doesnt exist.

bmfc1 Oct 19 2017 01:50 AM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

Manny Acta? I made fun of him when he was the WSH manager. Long has never managed before, Cora is "99.9%" likely to go to BOS (per somewhere today). I don't know anything about Callaway... so go Super Joe!

41Forever Oct 19 2017 01:54 AM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

So, all those writers citing sources about who the Mets were looking at were basically pulling stuff out of their butt. But hey, when you are citing unnamed sources, it's easy to be wrong.

Edgy MD Oct 19 2017 02:33 AM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

Or maybe they looked at these guys, bandied their names around, and chose not to invite them for interviews.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 19 2017 07:53 AM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

What I like about Super Joe is that if you hire him as a manager, you'd really only need, like, one other coach on the staff, because he could cover infield, first base, and third base himself. [Bow tie spins] [Shuffle-steps offstage]

Fman99 Oct 19 2017 11:24 AM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

41Forever wrote: So, all those writers citing sources about who the Mets were looking at were basically pulling stuff out of their butt. They're doing that wrong.

HahnSolo Oct 19 2017 12:39 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

The last two teams to hire Acta both got good after those teams fired him.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 19 2017 12:58 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

Mike Puma spoke to "The Person" about Manny Acta: Mike Puma wrote: A person familiar with Acta’s work in both managerial stops predicted he would make a strong impression on Mets officials. “He is going to walk in the interview and kick [butt], because he is smart,” the person said. “He knows analytics, he understands scouting and he’s old school. He’s organized, prepared, works well with the coaching staff and front office.” On the flip side, the person wondered if Acta was cut out for New York. “He’s a really nice guy who can’t handle controversy, and most people who can’t handle controversy, that job is not for you,” the person said. But Acta is considered a serious candidate for the job because he has an understanding of the organization’s dynamics, according to a source, having served as the Mets’ third-base coach during Willie Randolph’s managerial tenure. The Manny Acta drawback as Mets’ 1st interviews wind down

Ceetar Oct 19 2017 01:12 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

41Forever wrote: So, all those writers citing sources about who the Mets were looking at were basically pulling stuff out of their butt. But hey, when you are citing unnamed sources, it's easy to be wrong. Luckily for them, it wasn't really about right/wrong, but about clicks. Happening to glimpse a missed called on Alderson's cell from "Ventura, R" would be enough for a 7-part breakdown of Ventura's chances as the Mets manager.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 20 2017 01:35 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

Mike Puma wrote: Kevin Long, Mickey Callaway, Joe McEwing and Manny Acta have all interviewed for the job, with it possible team officials will speak to Sandy Alomar Jr. According to an industry source, the Mets have not formally interviewed Alomar, the Indians first base coach, but he remains a possibility. Another source added it’s possible general manager Sandy Alderson still has candidates in mind other than the five who have interviewed with the club. But the Mets are expected to begin their second round of interviews next week. Also, it seems that the Mets won't have to compete with the Tigers for any of the remaining candidates, because they've reported hired Ron Gardenhire.

metirish Oct 20 2017 01:53 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

Mike Puma spoke to "The Person" about Manny Acta: Mike Puma wrote: A person familiar with Acta’s work in both managerial stops predicted he would make a strong impression on Mets officials. “He is going to walk in the interview and kick [butt], because he is smart,” the person said. “He knows analytics, he understands scouting and he’s old school. He’s organized, prepared, works well with the coaching staff and front office.” On the flip side, the person wondered if Acta was cut out for New York. “He’s a really nice guy who can’t handle controversy, and most people who can’t handle controversy, that job is not for you,” the person said. But Acta is considered a serious candidate for the job because he has an understanding of the organization’s dynamics, according to a source, having served as the Mets’ third-base coach during Willie Randolph’s managerial tenure. The Manny Acta drawback as Mets’ 1st interviews wind down “He’s a really nice guy who can’t handle controversy, and most people who can’t handle controversy, that job is not for you,” the person said How does he even get through life with that for fucks sake.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 20 2017 01:56 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

If, in fact, the remaining choices are Kevin Long, Mickey Callaway, Joe McEwing and Manny Acta, I think I'm rooting for McEwing. I'll list my second choice as Callaway, even though I don't know much about him at all. Callaway is also a candidate for the Phillies job, which at the moment is the only other opening. The buzz has been that Long is the front runner.

Frayed Knot Oct 20 2017 01:57 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Also, it seems that the Mets won't have to compete with the Tigers for any of the remaining candidates, because they've reported hired Ron Gardenhire. Several reports last night reported that Alex Cora to the Red Sox is essentially a done deal although nothing even close to official. One was from some Spanish language outlet which then withdrew the claim. Another is just some TV guy in Boston who says he hears that "no doubt" it'll be Cora and that all parties are simply waiting on the Houston season to end before making it formal. But of course people hear all kinds of things. I'm kind of leaning towards team Super Joe as well.

HahnSolo Oct 20 2017 02:22 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat) Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 20 2017 02:26 PM

My one enduring memory of Manny Acta with the Mets was a macabre one: he rented an apartment in the building that Cory Lidle crashed his plane into.

HahnSolo Oct 20 2017 02:25 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

No matter who they hire, I kind of hoped that they might have spread a wider net for candidates. Maybe they have spoken to more people and we don't know about it, but you would think if that were the case it would have slipped to someone in the media.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 20 2017 02:26 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

UMDB fan memories don't say much about Manny. Choo Choo November 12, 2006 Good luck Manny in D.C. A very deserving candidate for a big league job. Volleyball Guy November 12, 2006 In the two years he coached the Mets, I never even noticed him. That's a good thing for a third base coach: you only notice them when they send a runner to his doom, like Bud Harrelson so frequently did. Many people who know better than I say he's a really smart baseball man. If that's the case, he may have a long managing career ahead of him, since he's taking over the Nationals at the young age of 37. Good luck Manny! DanMan Mets Fan 69 86 April 1, 2007 Great Coach. It was good that he got hired as the Nationals manager. The funny thing was that he is younger than Juilo Franco.

Ceetar Oct 20 2017 02:44 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

HahnSolo wrote: No matter who they hire, I kind of hoped that they might have spread a wider net for candidates. Maybe they have spoken to more people and we don't know about it, but you would think if that were the case it would have slipped to someone in the media. The reports are they did talk to other people on the phone prior to having first rounds. I don't know what/who that entailed but like if it was a call between just Sandy and someone we don't know, hard to leak.

HahnSolo Oct 20 2017 02:57 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

Ceetar wrote: The reports are they did talk to other people on the phone prior to having first rounds. I don't know what/who that entailed but like if it was a call between just Sandy and someone we don't know, hard to leak. Unless it was the interviewee doing the leaking. Not unheard of.

TransMonk Oct 20 2017 04:04 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

I can support anyone but Long. I want new blood.

bmfc1 Oct 20 2017 04:17 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

He's the opposite of new blood but should the Mets consider newly available Dusty Baker?

Mets Willets Point Oct 20 2017 04:32 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

And after the Nationals signed Darren Baker too.

d'Kong76 Oct 20 2017 04:52 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat) Edited 4 time(s), most recently on Oct 20 2017 04:55 PM

I would have guessed that Dusty was in his late to mid 70's for some reason but he's only 68. I am not in favor of taking Yankee or divisional cast offs, want something fresh... he (and his half-chewed toothpick) can ride off into the sunset. OE: (that would have been a dumb guess 'cause I kinda knew Terry was older and cer- tainly not in his late to mid 70's either)

Ceetar Oct 20 2017 04:53 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

bmfc1 wrote: He's the opposite of new blood but should the Mets consider newly available Dusty Baker? no

Edgy MD Oct 20 2017 05:04 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

I think they should consider him, as the Buddhist might consider the lotus. As something to meditate on, wrap your mind around, try to fully understand, to comprehend a universe that could breathe both oneself and Dusty Baker into existence. Ultimately, they can consider him as a model of what one doesn't want in a manager. Besides, he might injure the Mets' young pitchers. lolol

Frayed Knot Oct 20 2017 05:14 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

He wouldn't be my first choice. I thought Dusty was a good choice for the Nats when he first got there, although maybe mostly because he was following the not hard to follow Matt Williams. I think of Dusty as someone who runs a good clubhouse, doesn't let the inmates run the asylum, and keeps a good rapport with his players. On the other hand, then there's his in-game management. Plus, what's his streak up to now, like ten straight losses in potential post-season clinching games?

Ashie62 Oct 20 2017 05:25 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

I'm starting to get a Kevin Long vibe for the job. Sorry Joe McEwing.

seawolf17 Oct 20 2017 05:26 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets (split from Terry Hot Seat)

Edgy MD wrote: Besides, he might injure the Mets' young pitchers. lolol You know, this was my first thought too... but WHAT IF THEY CANCEL EACH OTHER OUT and he makes them HEALTHIER?!?!

metirish Oct 20 2017 05:50 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets? (split from Terry Hot Seat)

Got to say I loath the can't or can handle NY BS that rolls around when these jobs open

Benjamin Grimm Oct 20 2017 05:57 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets? (split from Terry Hot Seat)

We hear it when players arrive too. I assume they don't say this kind of stuff in Phoenix or Cincinnati.

Ceetar Oct 20 2017 06:02 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets? (split from Terry Hot Seat)

metirish wrote: Got to say I loath the can't or can handle NY BS that rolls around when these jobs open it's literally a threat. "We going to be rough on you and if you can't handle it we'll be even worse. Don't come if you aren't going to be buddy buddy with us media folk"

Centerfield Oct 20 2017 06:05 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets? (split from Terry Hot Seat)

It's self aggrandizing. We the NY media are so in your face and intense only the strong can hack it! Barf. I'm happy to hear that Dusty is out. I never thought he was all that bright, but thought he was a good fit for that team. Had great success under him. I hope they re-hire Matt Williams. Not crazy at all about the remaining choices but admittedly know very little about them. I just wish it was over so we could focus on getting good players.

Edgy MD Oct 20 2017 06:10 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets? (split from Terry Hot Seat)

Yeah, but fans indulge it, too. >>> "He sucks! He can't handle the fans!" >>> >>> "So you're going to ... ?" >>> "Abuse the SHIT out of him!" >>> >>> "Why?" >>> "He deserves it. He can't handle the fans!" It's the bully's trap. I'm going to get you for no reason, and when dare to you squirm, that just proves how soft you are, and cum eo validates my decision to get you.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 20 2017 06:47 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets? (split from Terry Hot Seat)

Joel Sherman wrote: The Mets were described by sources as near the goal line on making a decision on who will replace Terry Collins, with the internal belief that they want to finalize a deal this weekend and announce before the World Series begins Tuesday. If this is accurate, we'll have our answer in a few days.

MFS62 Oct 22 2017 12:51 AM Re: Who will manage the Mets? (split from Terry Hot Seat)

I hope they announce their choice late Saturday night or Sunday morning, to steal headlines and column inches from the MFYs (no matter the outcome of tonight's game) Later

Benjamin Grimm Oct 22 2017 01:27 AM Re: Who will manage the Mets? (split from Terry Hot Seat)

They're not going to make their manager announcement at a time that would compete with the Yankees playing Game 7 of the ALCS. That's a battle that the Mets would definitely lose.

MFS62 Oct 22 2017 12:31 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets? (split from Terry Hot Seat)

Thankfully, so did the MFYs. I meant after the game. Later

bmfc1 Oct 22 2017 05:21 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets? (split from Terry Hot Seat)

[tweet:ae5awj4e]https://twitter.com/MarcCarig/status/922148790559215616[/tweet:ae5awj4e] [tweet:ae5awj4e]https://twitter.com/Joelsherman1/status/922151618430291968[/tweet:ae5awj4e] So Mickey Callaway or a mystery person.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 22 2017 05:33 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets? (split from Terry Hot Seat)

Maybe Mickey Spillane? This is an interesting development, if true. I've been spending the last few days getting my head around the idea of Kevin Long as Mets manager. The Phillies also have been interested in Callaway.

d'Kong76 Oct 22 2017 05:35 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets? (split from Terry Hot Seat)

At this rate, they may have to lure Terry out of semi-retirement.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 24 2017 06:46 PM Re: Who will manage the Mets? (split from Terry Hot Seat)

Apparently this guy was the sixth guy that the Mets interviewed, the so-called mystery candidate.