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Big League Chew presents: Find Us a Manager (Group B)

Brad Ausmus

7 votes

Bo Porter

3 votes

Davey Johnson

8 votes

John McLaren

0 votes

Edwin Rodriguez

1 votes

Phil Garner

4 votes

Jerry Narron

0 votes

Jeff Torborg

0 votes

Davey Lopes

2 votes

Ray Miller

0 votes

Tim Johnson

1 votes

Tom Runnells

0 votes

Mike Cubbage

3 votes

Moose Stubing

5 votes

John Felske

0 votes

Maury Wills

1 votes

Jim Marshall

2 votes

Edgy MD Oct 04 2017 04:40 PM

You're still Sandy Alderson. Less than fully edified by the list of candidates provide by John Ricco, you place a call to Special Assistant to the General Manager J.P. Ricciardi. "Jape," you say,"I need a manager, an experienced manager, and my list so far is missing a certain sparkle. I doesn't light up the room, Jape! Get me, I dunno, 17 names. Seventeen. Can you do that for me, Jape?" Not 10 minutes later, the fax machine starts buzzing, because you're Sandy, and you do things your own way and still see some value in faxes. And what do you know, but that efficiency expert Ricciardi has sent you the names of these 17 guys. Which four do you call in for an interview? Mgr Age Team(s) Yrs From To W L W-L% Ties G > .500 G W Post L Post W-L% Post Best Fin Wrst Fin Av Rk Plyof App WS won Penn Won ASG Mets Connection [fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/2/21414447_manager.jpg[/fimg] Brad Ausmus 49 DET 4 2014 2017 313 331 .486 0 -18 644 0 3 .000 1 6 3.3 1 0 0 0 [fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/f/fc820bad_manager.jpg[/fimg] Bo Porter 45 HOU 2 2013 2014 110 190 .367 0 -80 300 0 0 5 5 5.0 0 0 0 0 From Newark, NJ. [fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/1/18ed0c6b_davis.jpg[/fimg] Davey Johnson 75 NYM, CIN, BAL, LAD, WAS 17 1984 2013 1372 1071 .562 2 301 2445 25 26 .490 1 5 1.9 6 1 1 1 Made last out of 1969 World Series for Baltimore; managed and instructed in Mets minor leagues, 1981-1983; managed Mets 1984-1990 [fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/e/e5e40609_manager.jpg[/fimg] John McLaren 66 SEA, WSH 3 2007 2011 70 89 .440 0 -19 159 0 0 2 4 2.9 0 0 0 0 [fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/5/562ec88e_davis.jpg[/fimg] Edwin Rodriguez 57 FLA 2 2010 2011 78 85 .479 0 -7 163 0 0 3 5 3.9 0 0 0 0 [fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/5/5ec76f54_davis.jpg[/fimg] Phil Garner 68 MIL, DET, HOU 15 1992 2007 985 1054 .483 1 -69 2040 13 13 .500 2 7 3.8 2 0 1 1 [fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/0/0383da93_davis.jpg[/fimg] Jerry Narron 62 TEX, CIN 5 2001 2007 291 341 .460 1 -50 633 0 0 3 6 4.2 0 0 0 0 [fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/0/0d5a228f_davis.jpg[/fimg] Jeff Torborg 76 CLE, CWS, NYM, MON 11 1977 2003 634 718 .469 0 -84 1352 0 0 2 7 4.6 0 0 0 0 [fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/d/d6cb87c6_davis.jpg[/fimg] Davey Lopes 72 MIL 3 2000 2002 144 195 .425 1 -51 340 0 0 3 6 3.6 0 0 0 0 [fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/4/4a419414_manager.jpg[/fimg] Ray Miller 72 MIN, BAL 4 1985 1999 266 297 .472 0 -31 563 0 0 4 6 4.5 0 0 0 0 [fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/f/f36bcb3d_davis.jpg[/fimg] Tim Johnson 68 TOR 1 1998 1998 88 74 .543 1 14 163 0 0 3 3 3.0 0 0 0 0 [fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/1/1c1da1fc_davis.jpg[/fimg] Tom Runnells 62 MON 2 1991 1992 68 81 .456 0 -13 149 0 0 2 6 5.0 0 0 0 0 [fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/2/22bca597_davis.jpg[/fimg] Mike Cubbage 67 NYM 1 1991 1991 3 4 .429 0 -1 7 0 0 5 5 5.0 0 0 0 0 Mets minor leaguer, 1982; Mets player, 1981; Mets third-base coach, 1990-1996; Mets minor league manager, 1983-1989; Mets interim manager, 1991. [fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/b/b136e498_davis.jpg[/fimg] Moose Stubing 80 CAL 1 1988 1988 0 8 .000 0 -8 8 0 0 4 4 4.0 0 0 0 0 [fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/c/ccd38469_davis.jpg[/fimg] John Felske 75 PHA 3 1985 1987 190 194 .495 0 -4 384 0 0 2 5 3.6 0 0 0 0 [fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/6/61b09409_davis.jpg[/fimg] Maury Wills 85 SEA 2 1980 1981 26 56 .317 1 -30 83 0 0 6 7 6.7 0 0 0 0 Played minor league ball for the Brooklyn Dodgers. [fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/b/b285c856_davis.jpg[/fimg] Jim Marshall 86 CHC, OAK 4 1974 1979 229 326 .413 0 -97 555 0 0 4 7 5.7 0 0 0 0 Original 1962 Mets player.

d'Kong76 Oct 04 2017 05:36 PM Re: Big League Chew presents: Find Us a Manager (Group B)

That's some slim pickins. I thought Maury passed away several years ago. (oops, wrong thread...)

Edgy MD Oct 04 2017 05:45 PM Re: Big League Chew presents: Find Us a Manager (Group B)

Still living and looks more or less healthy and spry in recent years. You want to talk to a guy who'll make you scratch your head, talk to Maury. The Wikipedia wrote: After retiring, Wills spent time as a baseball analyst at NBC from 1973 through 1977. He also managed in the Mexican Pacific League—a winter league—for four seasons, during which time he led the Naranjeros de Hermosillo to the 1970–71 season league championship. Wills let it be known he felt qualified to pilot a big-league club. In his book, How To Steal A Pennant, Wills claimed he could take any last-place club and make them champions within four years. The San Francisco Giants allegedly offered him a one-year deal, but Wills turned them down. Finally, in 1980, the Seattle Mariners fired Darrell Johnson and gave Wills the reins. Wills' tenure was an unmitigated disaster. Baseball writer Rob Neyer, in his Big Book of Baseball Blunders criticized Wills for "the variety and frequency of [his] mistakes" as manager, calling them "unparalleled." In a short interview appearing in the June 5, 2006 issue of Newsweek, Neyer said, "It wasn't just that Wills couldn't do the in-game stuff. Wills's inability to communicate with his players really sets him apart. He said he was going to make his second baseman, Julio Cruz, his permanent shortstop. Twenty-four hours later he was back at second base. As far as a guy who put in some real time (as a manager), I don't think there's been anyone close to Wills." According to the Seattle Post-Intelligencer's Steve Rudman, Wills made a number of gaffes. He called for a relief pitcher although there was nobody warming up in the bullpen, held up another game for 10 minutes while looking for a pinch-hitter and even left a spring-training game in the sixth inning to fly to California. The most celebrated incident of Wills' tenure as manager occurred on April 25, 1981. He ordered the Mariners' grounds crew to make the batter's boxes one foot longer than regulation. The extra foot was in the direction of the mound. However, Oakland Athletics manager Billy Martin noticed something was amiss and asked plate umpire Bill Kunkel to investigate. Under questioning from Kunkel, the Mariners' head groundskeeper admitted Wills had ordered the change. Wills claimed he was trying to help his players stay in the box. However, Martin suspected that given the large number of breaking-ball pitchers on the A's staff, Wills wanted to give his players an advantage. The American League suspended Wills for two games and fined him $500. American League umpiring supervisor Dick Butler likened Wills' actions to setting the bases 88 feet apart instead of 90 feet. After leading Seattle to a 20-38 mark to end the 1980 season, new owner George Argyros fired Wills on May 6, 1981 with the M's deep in last place at 6-18. This gave him a career record of 26-56 for a winning percentage of .317, one of the worst ever for a non-interim manager. Years later, Wills admitted he probably should have gotten some seasoning as a minor-league manager prior to being hired in Seattle. However, the aforementioned Julio Cruz, himself an accomplished base stealer, credited Wills for teaching him how to steal second base against a left-handed pitcher.

metirish Oct 04 2017 06:07 PM Re: Big League Chew presents: Find Us a Manager (Group B)

I may not have thought about Jeff Torborg in I don't know how many years......

Edgy MD Oct 04 2017 06:18 PM Re: Big League Chew presents: Find Us a Manager (Group B)

Special thanks to whoever voted for bringing in Moose Stubing and giving him a half a chance to get off the schneid.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 04 2017 08:23 PM Re: Big League Chew presents: Find Us a Manager (Group B)

That was me. I'd have him in for an interview anyway

Edgy MD Oct 04 2017 08:30 PM Re: Big League Chew presents: Find Us a Manager (Group B)

I went for Johnson (natch), Cubbage (my loyalty knows no bounds), Garner (who doesn't need a guy named "Scrap Iron" keeping a group of young men on the same page?), and Lopes (bunting school!). But I may toss Scraps aside for Moose. OE: Hmmm ... I guess Torborg suggests my loyalty does have it's limits.

Ashie62 Oct 04 2017 09:25 PM Re: Big League Chew presents: Find Us a Manager (Group B)

None of the above.

Mets Willets Point Oct 05 2017 12:26 AM Re: Big League Chew presents: Find Us a Manager (Group B)

OMG, Torborg!

Edgy MD Oct 05 2017 12:35 AM Re: Big League Chew presents: Find Us a Manager (Group B)

Ashie62 wrote: None of the above. Nothing like the guy who doesn't want to play but wants everybody to hear how he doesn't want to play.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 05 2017 03:45 AM Re: Big League Chew presents: Find Us a Manager (Group B)

How do you talk about loyalty, Edge, and pass over Davey F. Johnson? I won't. Gimme Cubbage, Garner, and Big Green Brad Ausmus. Although this Torborg person sounds interesting...

Edgy MD Oct 05 2017 12:25 PM Re: Big League Chew presents: Find Us a Manager (Group B)

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: How do you talk about loyalty, Edge, and pass over Davey F. Johnson? I won't. I had him first.

Lefty Specialist Oct 05 2017 02:31 PM Re: Big League Chew presents: Find Us a Manager (Group B)

metirish wrote: I may not have thought about Jeff Torborg in I don't know how many years...... I had purged him from my memory.

metirish Oct 05 2017 02:35 PM Re: Big League Chew presents: Find Us a Manager (Group B)

Lefty Specialist wrote: metirish wrote: I may not have thought about Jeff Torborg in I don't know how many years...... I had purged him from my memory. 2003 since he managed in the MLB , I didn't know until now he has Parkinson's ( according to his Wiki)

Edgy MD Oct 05 2017 02:37 PM Re: Big League Chew presents: Find Us a Manager (Group B)

Weird tenure in Florida where he brought in his son, who had been wrestling professionally in a secondary circuit, to join the training staff.

Edgy MD Oct 05 2017 02:38 PM Re: Big League Chew presents: Find Us a Manager (Group B)

Edgy MD wrote: LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: How do you talk about loyalty, Edge, and pass over Davey F. Johnson? I won't. I had him first. Maybe you thought I meant Tim Johnson, whose main claim to fame was getting caught using fake stories of Vietnam combat to rally his Blue Jays players. I hate to see the downfall of bullshitters, but man.

Lefty Specialist Oct 05 2017 02:41 PM Re: Big League Chew presents: Find Us a Manager (Group B)

Man, it's gonna be a looooooooooong offseason.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Oct 06 2017 05:52 AM Re: Big League Chew presents: Find Us a Manager (Group B)

Edgy MD wrote: Edgy MD wrote: LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: How do you talk about loyalty, Edge, and pass over Davey F. Johnson? I won't. I had him first. Maybe you thought I meant Tim Johnson, whose main claim to fame was getting caught using fake stories of Vietnam combat to rally his Blue Jays players. I hate to see the downfall of bullshitters, but man. Whoopsie.

d'Kong76 Oct 08 2017 05:56 PM Re: Big League Chew presents: Find Us a Manager (Group B)

Mustered up one vote for Ausmus.