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d'Kong76 Sep 19 2017 05:11 PM

Anyone a registered member of one of the lesser parties, Libertarian, Green, Constitution, etc. and would like to share anything about it? I'd put this in the other thread, but expect that to explode over Trump's No Korean threats at the UN (of all places) sometime soon.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Sep 19 2017 05:23 PM Re: Other Political Parties

We need more parties in the USA. I sometimes think this is what this song is really about [youtube:mqsjsbxr]D0ihS9HvIr4[/youtube:mqsjsbxr]

Edgy MD Sep 19 2017 05:26 PM Re: Other Political Parties

Good call, Jonathan. I'm unaffiliated, but considering joining the American Solidarity Party. Basically, they're trying to fill the niche occupied by the Christian Democrats in European multi-party systems.

Ceetar Sep 19 2017 05:28 PM Re: Other Political Parties

I think we need less (i.e. none) parties. I'm unaffiliated. I guess unless I decided to run for something in which case I'd have to register as Democrat to be taken seriously?

RealityChuck Sep 19 2017 06:02 PM Re: Other Political Parties

The two-party system is the inevitable result of plurality voting.

Mets Willets Point Sep 19 2017 09:23 PM Re: Other Political Parties

If I lived in NY I'd look into joining the Working Families Party, but it's not active here.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Sep 22 2017 05:28 PM Re: Other Political Parties

I mean, for all intense and porpoises, Working Families is a progressive Democratic sub-party.

Mets Willets Point Sep 22 2017 09:41 PM Re: Other Political Parties

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: I mean, for all intense and porpoises, Working Families is a progressive Democratic sub-party. I guess so, but that's still more than we have in Massachusetts.

RealityChuck Sep 22 2017 11:27 PM Re: Other Political Parties

New York has multiple parties because it's one of only a few states where candidates can run on multiple lines and combine their votes. In other states, if you run on two lines, the totals will be separate, so there's no reason to split your votes. For example, in NY Candidate A, Party 1: 10,000 votes Candidate B, Party 2: 11.000 votes Candidate A, Party 3: 4000 votes In NY, Candidate A gets 14000 votes and wins the election In other states, Candidate B gets 11,000 votes more than Party 1 or Party 2, so Candidate B wins

d'Kong76 Sep 23 2017 01:09 AM Re: Other Political Parties

Right, like why Hillary Carpetbaggered her way into NY. True Yankee, I mean Arkansonian, er, I mean Illinoisian, er, I mean book monger... Sorry, got carried away a bit.

MFS62 Sep 23 2017 01:36 AM Re: Other Political Parties

In New York you can be a registered as an Independent and then vote in the primaries for any party. This practice can help nominate a candidate that your party you really support can beat. When I moved to Connecticut, I was told that a registered independent cannot vote in any primaries for parties in which you aren't registered. Later

d'Kong76 Sep 23 2017 01:48 AM Re: Other Political Parties

I'll have to check this next week, but I'm pretty sure as a registered independent I cannot vote in any primaries.

MFS62 Sep 23 2017 02:37 AM Re: Other Political Parties

d'Kong76 wrote: I'll have to check this next week, but I'm pretty sure as a registered independent I cannot vote in any primaries. Could it have been just a New York City, not State, law? I've been in CT for over 40 years, so maybe they closed that loophole. Later

Nymr83 Sep 24 2017 03:20 AM Re: Other Political Parties

according to this New York doesnt allow independents to vote in primaries.

sharpie Sep 24 2017 04:11 AM Re: Other Political Parties

That's right, independents may not vote in party primaries. i don't think that is necessarily a bad thing. Why else would you register in a party if not to vote in the primaries?

Edgy MD Sep 24 2017 02:04 PM Re: Other Political Parties

And why should non-stakeholders be able to decide which candidate a party is backing? No small amount of non-Republicans supported Donald Trump in the primaries, some to explicitly help the ideological hijacking of the party, some to play as merry pranksters, and push the Republicans toward what they saw as an unviable candidate. It was unlikely to be enough to swing the primary, but here we are.

Ceetar Sep 24 2017 11:04 PM Re: Other Political Parties

Edgy MD wrote: And why should non-stakeholders be able to decide which candidate a party is backing? Well, I mean, a non-stakeholder can RUN. Bernie did remarkably well considering he was sabotaged AND wasn't running under his own party. If all the liberal, but not democrat, voters could've voted for him in the primary?

Edgy MD Sep 24 2017 11:14 PM Re: Other Political Parties

I'm not sure what the question is.

Benjamin Grimm Sep 24 2017 11:46 PM Re: Other Political Parties

I think he's asking, if all primaries were open, might Bernie Sanders have gotten the nomination?

Ceetar Sep 25 2017 01:46 PM Re: Other Political Parties

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I think he's asking, if all primaries were open, might Bernie Sanders have gotten the nomination? yeah, basically. Sanders isn't a Democrat. There are millions and millions of voters that aren't democrats or republicans. What if they could've voted? I get the idea that it's not really a vote for president it's a vote for a party nomination, but if the potential nominees aren't all Democrats.. Bernie running exposed a lot of the flaws with the two party system and the democrats establishment, but no one seems to want to address them.