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d'Kong76 Sep 20 2017 12:48 AM

Dominica, Virgin Islands, Puerto Rico... crazy season 2017.

themetfairy Sep 20 2017 12:52 AM Re: Maria

Dominica has apparently been devastated. It's heartbreaking.

d'Kong76 Sep 20 2017 02:16 AM Re: Maria

Indeed. Not looking good going forward.

Frayed Knot Sep 21 2017 02:53 AM Re: Maria

So 'J' was Jose, 'M' got assigned to Maria, which means that, after 'N', 'O' has got to be Olazabal only those who follow golf get that joke

Lefty Specialist Sep 21 2017 12:02 PM Re: Maria

Two-stroke penalty for that one. Puerto Rico pretty much ripped apart island-wide. They're going to need a lot of help, and I'm not sure Trump realizes they're a part of the United States.

Benjamin Grimm Sep 21 2017 12:36 PM Re: Maria

He probably thinks he won their electoral votes last November.

Frayed Knot Sep 21 2017 12:39 PM Re: Maria

Benjamin Grimm wrote: He probably thinks he won their electoral votes last November. Despite the voting fraud against him. Maria on to the Dominican Republic now.

Vic Sage Sep 21 2017 06:06 PM Re: Maria

i thought they called the wind "Mariah"

Benjamin Grimm Sep 21 2017 06:08 PM Re: Maria

I guess I should add to that... How do you solve a problem like Maria?

Centerfield Sep 21 2017 06:17 PM Re: Maria

Frayed Knot wrote: So 'J' was Jose, 'M' got assigned to Maria, which means that, after 'N', 'O' has got to be Olazabal only those who follow golf get that joke Golf clap.

Lefty Specialist Sep 21 2017 06:22 PM Re: Maria

It's heading for Turks & Caicos next. I was there last January and it's a beautiful place. Irma ripped it up pretty good, although the place we stayed said they would be reopening in October. They may want to put that on hold for a bit now, though.....

Frayed Knot Sep 21 2017 06:28 PM Re: Maria

Centerfield wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: So 'J' was Jose, 'M' got assigned to Maria, which means that, after 'N', 'O' has got to be Olazabal only those who follow golf get that joke Golf clap. They of course pre-name all the storms or potential storms prior to the season ever starting, going through the complete alphabet even if many of them wind up not getting used. And many years ago they decided the names would alternate between male and female, the previous practice of giving them all female names on account of hurricanes being unpredictable was no longer socially acceptable (we're all so sensitive these days). Besides, the old joke went, if you gave them male names you'd have to start calling them Himicanes. Anyway, one year, it must have been the year he was going for the all-time hit record, consecutive storms 'P' and 'R' (they don't use Q) were intentionally pre-assigned as Pete(r) and Rose. IIRC the named storms for that year never got that far, but it shows that even weather nerds can show a sense of humor occasionally. Unfortunately, I suspect Olazabal doesn't meet their name criteria.

Ceetar Sep 21 2017 06:54 PM Re: Maria

I don't get whatever the joke is. (music i imagine) Nate is next, then Ophelia.

cooby Sep 21 2017 07:16 PM Re: Maria

I don't either. Google some pictures it'll lower your spirits

Frayed Knot Sep 21 2017 07:31 PM Re: Maria

Jose-Maria Olazabal is a Spaniard who's had a substantial career on the pro golf tour. So with Maria coming right on the heels of Jose I was campaigning for the 'O' storm to be Olazabal, sort of like they did with Pete and Rose all those years ago. And if any one of those storms should happen to hit Augusta, Georgia where J-M O. won The Masters (twice I think) it would be only too fitting. Like I said in the fine print, it's a joke only golfers get.

Benjamin Grimm Sep 21 2017 08:41 PM Re: Maria

Reports say the entire island of Puerto Rico is without power. The entire grid has been destroyed and it may be four to six months before power is restored. The airport in San Juan will open tomorrow, running on generators and without air conditioning, so that flights can resume, allowing residents to flee and rescue workers to arrive. It's mind-boggling. Four to six months???

d'Kong76 Sep 21 2017 08:56 PM Re: Maria

3 1/2 million people stranded on an island with virtually nothing. Hard to fathom.

Lefty Specialist Sep 22 2017 12:02 AM Re: Maria

d'Kong76 wrote: 3 1/2 million people stranded on an island with virtually nothing. Hard to fathom. There better be plenty of supplies coming in or this could get ugly really fast.

cooby Sep 27 2017 05:56 PM Re: Maria

I think it would be hilarious if Obama and or Hillary could get to PR as private citizens to help with recovery, however I'm sure that would be seen as spite. Maybe Trump can make it by next week.

Benjamin Grimm Sep 27 2017 06:36 PM Re: Maria

He knows that nobody in Puerto Rico can vote for him or against him in 2020.

Frayed Knot Sep 28 2017 02:03 AM Re: Maria

Puerto Rico at night, with (pre-Maria) and without power [fimg=500:1okhsm8c]https://s.w-x.co/prpower.gif[/fimg:1okhsm8c]

cooby Sep 28 2017 11:12 AM Re: Maria

No lights, AC, refrigeration, power tools, medical equipment...wowee By all accounts Puerto Rican people are sweet and forgiving. If he showed up he'd be an instant god. The dumbass

Lefty Specialist Sep 28 2017 12:25 PM Re: Maria

Expect a huge migration from the island once it's possible to do so, because this could take years to fix. My dad was in the Signal Corps in WWII. He was in charge of making sure communications and power were set up at the front lines, sometimes under fire, always under time pressure, in horrendous conditions. They got the job done. I visited Normandy, where an artificial harbor for supply ships was set up in a matter of hours. It's still there 73 years later. The military really needs to be brought to bear here. Trump has been slow to respond and this will turn out to be a bigger disaster than Texas and Florida combined. Also, Trump had a golf course in Puerto Rico that went bankrupt, stiffing the Puerto Rican government for $33 million. Maybe he'd like to donate that much to hurricane relief.

metirish Sep 28 2017 12:58 PM Re: Maria

Jessica was finally able to talk to her mom yesterday, they are all ok,extended family too, had to drive miles to find a a place to call from, there are locations where the cell service works at times, people are letting others use their phones to call family, this is how her mom was able to call. It's been a very scary long week for Jessica not knowing how they are.

d'Kong76 Sep 28 2017 02:11 PM Re: Maria

Good to hear. Everyone I know or sorta know with connections to the island are safe. It's something. Hard to wrap my head around what it must be like there.

cooby Sep 28 2017 02:37 PM Re: Maria

That is good news!

batmagadanleadoff Sep 28 2017 03:12 PM Re: Maria

Benjamin Grimm wrote: He knows that nobody in Puerto Rico can vote for him or against him in 2020. No. But they can migrate en masse to Florida, where there's already a large Puerto Rican presence, especially in the Orlando region, in numbers large enough to flip Florida from a swing state to a blue state. Puerto Ricans despise Trump.

batmagadanleadoff Sep 29 2017 04:26 PM Re: Maria

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Benjamin Grimm wrote: He knows that nobody in Puerto Rico can vote for him or against him in 2020. No. But they can migrate en masse to Florida, where there's already a large Puerto Rican presence, especially in the Orlando region, in numbers large enough to flip Florida from a swing state to a blue state. Puerto Ricans despise Trump. Which is looking likelier by the day as news accounts describing the devastation to Puerto Rico wrought by Maria are using words like "uninhabitable", "apocalyptic" and "dystopian". New York will get its share of PR evacuees, given its large existing PR population. But if there's any political justice to this, Puerto Rican evacuees would migrate mostly to Florida and Texas, flipping those states and fucking the GOP for generations to come. What would likely happen, though, in the event of a mass exodus to Texas and Florida, unfortunatley, would be that the GOP controlled states would pass some combination of PR targeted voter suppression obstacles and also totally gum up the paperwork process that should enable former PR residents to vote in their respective states.

d'Kong76 Sep 29 2017 04:31 PM Re: Maria

I know you're hard corps, but it's hard for me to read someone politicizing this.

batmagadanleadoff Sep 29 2017 04:37 PM Re: Maria

d'Kong76 wrote: I know you're hard corps, but it's hard for me to read someone politicizing this. I'm just multi-tasking. I can have sincere empathy for the victims of this terrible hurricane while simultaneously thinking about the politics. You think the Florida GOP isn't worried to shit about the fallout from a mass PR evacuation? Don't kid yourself.

d'Kong76 Sep 29 2017 04:38 PM Re: Maria

batmagadanleadoff wrote: d'Kong76 wrote: I know you're hard corps, but it's hard for me to read someone politicizing this. I'm just multi-tasking. And I'm just chiming in, no biggie...

batmagadanleadoff Sep 29 2017 04:41 PM Re: Maria

d'Kong76 wrote: d'Kong76 wrote: I know you're hard corps, but it's hard for me to read someone politicizing this. I'm just multi-tasking. And I'm just chiming in, no biggie... I know. I wasn't offended. In fact, I'm never offended.

d'Kong76 Sep 29 2017 04:45 PM Re: Maria

batmagadanleadoff wrote: In fact, I'm never offended. I'll try harder, after the World Series of course. :^)

cooby Sep 29 2017 05:28 PM Re: Maria

d'Kong76 wrote: I know you're hard corps, but it's hard for me to read someone politicizing this. Maybe so but this is rapidly becoming political.

d'Kong76 Sep 29 2017 05:49 PM Re: Maria

Yeah, on some channels more than others. The island is dead. One report I saw about the power plants and water distribution system was so disturbing. It's not going to take weeks, it's months and probably years. If saying The Orange Head isn't doing enough makes some people cope with it, whatever. My current take is everything that can be done has been pretty much done so far.

cooby Sep 29 2017 07:17 PM Re: Maria

Absolutely. But a visit from the president would at least boost morale

d'Kong76 Sep 29 2017 07:46 PM Re: Maria

Hard for me to fathom him boosting anything positive. I get depressed at the mere sight and sound of him on the tv. He's going Tuesday, some mumbo jumbo I heard yesterday about him not wanting to get in the way of the relief efforts -- whatever that means.

Edgy MD Sep 29 2017 10:53 PM Re: Maria

d'Kong76 wrote: My current take is everything that can be done has been pretty much done so far. I'd like to think so, but I'd guess that's probably untrue.

d'Kong76 Sep 29 2017 11:04 PM Re: Maria

Current takes can change. Hourly, if need be.

cooby Sep 29 2017 11:15 PM Re: Maria

Edgy MD wrote: d'Kong76 wrote: My current take is everything that can be done has been pretty much done so far. I'd like to think so, but I'd guess that's probably untrue. Considering the problems with transportation it may be so. There is a bunch of stuff waiting to be distributed as soon as they can move. It doesn't sound like a red tape issue for once.

d'Kong76 Sep 29 2017 11:22 PM Re: Maria

Yes, non-partisan reports all seem to say there's a lot of stuff there just sitting around because getting it to where it needs to go isn't happening. It's a nightmare, have to wonder if things will ever be normal there again.

Edgy MD Sep 29 2017 11:30 PM Re: Maria

I'm sure the will to help is strong. But the reality is that we certainly haven't filled upper level government posts with qualified individuals capable of handling state-wide emergency-level logistics, and a disturbingly high amount haven't even been filled at all, indeed haven't had candidates nominated or vetted. A huge part of the crisis is hitting health systems and institutions, and now we have no secretary of Health and Human Services.

Edgy MD Sep 30 2017 02:56 PM Re: Maria

"They want everything to be done for them," tweeted our terrible president on his way to his golfing responsibilities this morning, accusing Puerto Ricans of not helping thier own people. We need to start living as if we don't have a president.

Lefty Specialist Sep 30 2017 04:48 PM Re: Maria

I'm sure that tweet played very well with the White Supremacist base. 'They' can't move out supplies because there's no power, no gasoline and the roads aren't clear. Not because 'they're' lazy.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Sep 30 2017 05:39 PM Re: Maria

Edgy MD wrote: We need to start living as if we don't have a president. This is probably best, If you haven't been doing so already.

Ashie62 Sep 30 2017 07:35 PM Re: Maria

Nobody rushed to help NJ after Superstorm Sandy.

themetfairy Sep 30 2017 07:41 PM Re: Maria

Ashie62 wrote: Nobody rushed to help NJ after Superstorm Sandy. No, that's not accurate. I know there were crews from Texas and Florida helping to restore the downed power lines in my neighborhood after Sandy, and there was a lot of other assistance during the immediate emergency. A lot was done to restore essential services in Sandy's aftermath.

Ashie62 Sep 30 2017 07:57 PM Re: Maria

I guess. 21 days without power made me really wonder though.

themetfairy Sep 30 2017 08:07 PM Re: Maria

This was in my area. We lost power on Monday and it was restored on Friday. I remember the Quakerbridge Mall's parking lot being a staging area for these vehicles at night - it was impressive to see how many out of state crews were here.

Ashie62 Sep 30 2017 08:12 PM Re: Maria

We may have lost more trees. Morris County is heavily wooded. Thats nature. Your recovery is the best I've seen from that storm.

themetfairy Sep 30 2017 08:21 PM Re: Maria

I don't have a comparison, but we lost a ton deeply rooted trees during Sandy. But the point is that we received a lot of assistance in the days and weeks immediately following Sandy. Meanwhile, in Puerto Rico, an entire island full of American citizens has gone a week and a half without basic necessities such as electricity and water, and the President of the United States would rather play golf than provide them with meaningful assistance. It's beyond shameful.

Nymr83 Oct 02 2017 02:25 AM Re: Maria

themetfairy wrote: Ashie62 wrote: Nobody rushed to help NJ after Superstorm Sandy. No, that's not accurate. I know there were crews from Texas and Florida helping to restore the downed power lines in my neighborhood after Sandy, and there was a lot of other assistance during the immediate emergency. A lot was done to restore essential services in Sandy's aftermath. New Jersey definitely got help, so much so that Governor Christie even thanked Obama, a week before an election!

metsmarathon Oct 03 2017 07:47 PM Re: Maria

if it was a random island in the middle of some faraway ocean that got ravaged by a category 5 cyclone, i would expect under any other administration, that sufficient supplies and resources would be marshalled in half the time it's taken this rancid brain dead cheese curd to shamble away from his golf resort. it is utterly shameful that almost 3.5 million american citizens are suffering without basic necessities for this long, either because they are not somehow american (read: white) enough for him and his administration to care about, or because he and his administration are so utterly, depravedly lacking in compassion and empathy that any human suffering would fail to move the needle as regards the speediness of their response. how the fuck did we let this happen? also, i'd love to see puerto rico become our 51st state so that they can help usher out this dumpster fire from our highest office, and once again return to it the dignity of of its forebears.

Edgy MD Oct 03 2017 07:56 PM Re: Maria

A problem with that is that the rest of the electorate has to vote on their admission. And since that means their admission would throw off the balance of power in Congress (indeed would allow them to participate in the banishing of this administration to the historical dustbin), that's no fait accompli. Traditionally, I would have guessed that Puerto Rico would tend to spit their theoretical senators between the two major parties, but after this, I'm not sure a lot of citizens will want to identify as Republican. But that's why states have historically entered the union in pairs — political balance. DC statehood is mostly hindered because not only would their Congressional delegation be all Democrat, but would seemingly be so into perpetuity.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 03 2017 07:58 PM Re: Maria

Statehood for the District of Columbia would also require a Constitutional amendment, wouldn't it?

metirish Oct 04 2017 02:32 PM Re: Maria

Trump in PR yesterday was a disgrace.

MFS62 Oct 04 2017 02:37 PM Re: Maria

metirish wrote: Trump in PR yesterday was a disgrace. I'm hoping his tossing the paper towels is his "Let them eat cake" moment. Later

metsmarathon Oct 04 2017 03:34 PM Re: Maria

i wish he would just throw in the towel figuratively, instead of literally.

batmagadanleadoff Oct 04 2017 05:34 PM Re: Maria

metirish wrote: Trump in PR yesterday was a disgrace. Of course, this is true, but isn't Trump a horrific disgrace every single day? Isn't Trump consistently awful? Can anyone out there even keep track of all of steady stream of horrificness anymore? Every day, it's another pussy grabber. It's reminding me of those people who live right next to the highway or the elevated train track, who've gotten so accustomed to the noise that they don't even hear it anymore. Does anyone doubt that there won't be another horribly embarrassing Trump incident today, and then tomorrow?

d'Kong76 Oct 04 2017 05:49 PM Re: Maria

My neighbor posted this on fb... [fimg=750:qvairoyu]http://www.kcmets.com/CPF/100417b.jpg[/fimg:qvairoyu]

metirish Oct 04 2017 05:54 PM Re: Maria

batmagadanleadoff wrote: metirish wrote: Trump in PR yesterday was a disgrace. Of course, this is true, but isn't Trump a horrific disgrace every single day? Isn't Trump consistently awful? Can anyone out there even keep track of all of steady stream of horrificness anymore? Every day, it's another pussy grabber. It's reminding me of those people who live right next to the highway or the elevated train track, who've gotten so accustomed to the noise that they don't even hear it anymore. Does anyone doubt that there won't be another horribly embarrassing Trump incident today, and then tomorrow? Agree, he is a disgrace each and very day

batmagadanleadoff Oct 04 2017 06:27 PM Re: Maria

He knows that nobody in Puerto Rico can vote for him or against him in 2020. No. But they can migrate en masse to Florida, where there's already a large Puerto Rican presence, especially in the Orlando region, in numbers large enough to flip Florida from a swing state to a blue state. Puerto Ricans despise Trump. Which is looking likelier by the day as news accounts describing the devastation to Puerto Rico wrought by Maria are using words like "uninhabitable", "apocalyptic" and "dystopian". New York will get its share of PR evacuees, given its large existing PR population. But if there's any political justice to this, Puerto Rican evacuees would migrate mostly to Florida and Texas, flipping those states and fucking the GOP for generations to come. What would likely happen, though, in the event of a mass exodus to Texas and Florida, unfortunatley, would be that the GOP controlled states would pass some combination of PR targeted voter suppression obstacles and also totally gum up the paperwork process that should enable former PR residents to vote in their respective states. I know you're hard corps, but it's hard for me to read someone politicizing this. I'm just multi-tasking. I can have sincere empathy for the victims of this terrible hurricane while simultaneously thinking about the politics. You think the Florida GOP isn't worried to shit about the fallout from a mass PR evacuation? Don't kid yourself. _______________________ What Happens If Hundreds of Thousands of Puerto Ricans Flee for the Mainland United States? excerpt: On the mainland, all this has a political component that may hasten GOP action in Washington. Puerto Ricans vote for their own parties particular to the island in addition to participating in two-party primaries for U.S. president. Rosselló, whose party supports Puerto Rican statehood, has tried to assuage the statehood-skeptical GOP by arguing the island could be a swing state. Still, despite the fact that its nonvoting congressional representative is currently a Republican, there’s a consensus that the island would vote Democratic. Puerto Rican districts on the mainland tend to be solidly blue. Between 2005 and 2013, more than 20 percent of migrants from the island settled in Florida, where they have been joined by 72,000 Puerto Ricans coming from other states. Thanks to that shift—a 110 percent change from 2000 to 2014—Florida has surpassed New York as the state with the largest number of self-identified Puerto Ricans. Each major party has said that new population represents an opportunity; Rep. Darren Soto, the state’s first Puerto Rican congressman and a Democrat, thought Puerto Ricans delivered the state for Barack Obama in 2012. To make matters more complicated, Pew reports that Puerto Ricans who have migrated to the mainland are further to the left on social issues than their counterparts on the island. Whether this is self-selection or the effects of big-city culture isn’t clear. Still, the percent of Puerto Ricans who think abortion should be illegal drops from 77 percent (island) to 50 percent (island-to-mainland) to 42 percent (born on mainland); the percent who think same-sex marriage should be illegal drops from 55 percent (island) to 40 percent (island-to-mainland) to 29 percent (born on mainland). All of this suggests that a Puerto Rican exodus would inject a lot of blue voters into purple states. That’s a very cynical reason for the GOP Congress to prepare a serious aid package for Puerto Rico that looks beyond the damage caused by Hurricane Maria. But it’s one they are surely contemplating in private. https://slate.com/business/2017/09/what ... masse.html

cooby Oct 04 2017 06:29 PM Re: Maria

d'Kong76 wrote: My neighbor posted this on fb... [fimg=750]http://www.kcmets.com/CPF/100417b.jpg[/fimg] I just stole it....

d'Kong76 Oct 04 2017 07:08 PM Re: Maria

I won't tell!

Lefty Specialist Oct 05 2017 05:08 PM Re: Maria

The thing about Trump is that he can't even FAKE empathy. I mean, there's something missing in his makeup that prevents him from even trying. It's kind of weird; it's a basic human trait.

batmagadanleadoff Oct 05 2017 05:12 PM Re: Maria

Lefty Specialist wrote: The thing about Trump is that he can't even FAKE empathy. I mean, there's something missing in his makeup that prevents him from even trying. It's kind of weird; it's a basic human trait. It's because he's a rage filled sociopath. If he was born into average circumstances instead of essentially inheriting a present value amount of about a billion dollars forty years ago, he might've been a serial killer. And I'm not joking as I write this post.

Chad Ochoseis Oct 13 2017 12:18 AM Re: Maria

Trump isn't helping, but Carlos Beltran is.

Lefty Specialist Oct 13 2017 01:17 PM Re: Maria

Trump's already moved on. Those lazy PWERTO Ricans are asking for too much help. They have debts, so they'll just have to fend for themselves. At least they have the very best, the softest paper towels. Mission Accomplished!

Edgy MD Oct 13 2017 01:28 PM Re: Maria

So many hateful mofos online celebrating the TRUMP TO PR: DROP DEAD storyline. So many lies they're spewing. [list:wd33fqgr][*:wd33fqgr]Puerto Rico isn't a state, so they're not entitled to disaster relief. [/*:m:wd33fqgr] [*:wd33fqgr]The teamsters of Puerto Rico are on strike to gouge the government, and letting relief supplies gather dust. [/*:m:wd33fqgr] [*:wd33fqgr]Puerto Ricans don't pay taxes. (Does the president?) [/*:m:wd33fqgr] [*:wd33fqgr]The disaster relief is (somehow) going into a slush fund to pay off their debt. [/*:m:wd33fqgr] [*:wd33fqgr]They (alone among Americans, apparently) weren't sufficiently insured.[/*:m:wd33fqgr][/list:u:wd33fqgr] Self-restraint is looking like a full-time job.

metsmarathon Oct 13 2017 02:56 PM Re: Maria

they do realize that puerto ricans are actual american citizens, right, and that puerto rico is not an actual different country? eh, maybe not... it seems as if the administration itself is struggling with the concept.

Edgy MD Oct 13 2017 03:07 PM Re: Maria

metsmarathon wrote: they do realize that puerto ricans are actual american citizens, right, and that puerto rico is not an actual different country? eh, maybe not... it seems as if the administration itself is struggling with the concept. I'm trying. But their reasoning is so tortured. And I'm on a fast from arguing. (I'm failing.) And I've also taken to wondering when and if I'm arguing with a Russian troll.

Ceetar Oct 13 2017 03:18 PM Re: Maria

well, you're probably arguing with people that have made up their mind regardless of fact. my latest pet peeve is the facebook/social media posts that turn a mostly non-controversial issue except for some trolls into a social media engagement thing. "Like if you agree that murder is bad, angry face if you disagree"

Lefty Specialist Oct 13 2017 06:33 PM Re: Maria

My decision not to join Facebook looks better every day.