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ALCS IST: Yanquis - Astros

Frayed Knot
Oct 13 2017 04:16 AM

By virtue of the Indians losing, Houston gains the home field edge in this one.

Game 1: Tanaka vs Keuchel -- 8:00 (or thereabouts) Friday, FS1

Game 2: Saturday 4:00 -- Severino vs Verlander

Game 3: Monday 8:00

Game 4: Tuesday TBA

MFS62
Oct 13 2017 01:34 PM
Re: ALCS IST: Yanquis - Astros

Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 13 2017 02:07 PM

When the Mets and Astros (nee Colt 45's) entered the National League in 1962, Houston beat the Mets all season long (curse you, John Paciorek). And they won a large percent of the games between the two teams for many years. Their winning percentage is still only .455 against Houston, the second lowest against any all-time opponent (.443 Los Angeles).
I really, really, didn't like them.
The pain finally went away in 1986.
But this one's easy for me.
Go, Houston!

Later

Frayed Knot
Oct 13 2017 02:01 PM
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Yeah, Houston was my least favorite team in my first years of baseball following.
I had absorbed the idea that the expansion Mets were at a disadvantage when it came to competing against all those established teams, but the fact that they kept finishing behind the
Colts/Astros bothered my little brain each season. 1969 plus hopefully a bit of maturity (though I doubt it) cured some of that and, as Rick might have said to Ilsa, we'll always have 1986

It still seems wrong that they're in the AL and they went from a dull and dark crockpot of a ballpark to one that seems too tricked-out by half. But Selig pretty much used their ownership
change to force them into the league swap and I suppose either ballpark beats their original one where the flights of fly balls were in danger of being altered by mosquitos.

Mets Willets Point
Oct 13 2017 02:18 PM
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There are two things I believe about the Astros:

1. They should play in the National League
2. Their uniforms should be based on the classic "Tequila Sunrise" design:

Ashie62
Oct 13 2017 10:05 PM
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The Astros are too young and have too much talent for the MFY's

d'Kong76
Oct 13 2017 10:34 PM
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'stros in four.

Fman99
Oct 14 2017 12:23 AM
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Go 'stros!

Frayed Knot
Oct 14 2017 02:08 AM
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Keuchel's pitches are rarely even near the middle of the plate; he just hits corner after corner.

Edgy MD
Oct 14 2017 02:47 AM
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Dallas, if I was your manager, I'd still be riding you.

Frayed Knot
Oct 14 2017 03:09 AM
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I was hoping the Astros would kick ass in this game AND rake the Yanx bullpen.
Instead, they're giving most of the pen an extra day off after their heavy workload vs CLE

Edgy MD
Oct 14 2017 03:47 AM
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I'm excited about this Beltran guy. If he has a good post-season for Houston, maybe the Mets can sign him in the offseason.

Ashie62
Oct 14 2017 01:12 PM
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Altuve is the bomb.

Frayed Knot
Oct 14 2017 01:40 PM
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OCT 13, 2017: an 8-1/2 inning game where 3 runs were scored in total on 11 hits and 4 walks; 5 pitchers were used to pitch to 66 batters, only once was there a mid-inning pitching change
Game Time = 3:20

OCT 13, 1960: game ended on the 2nd pitch of the bottom of the 9th after 19 runs on 24 hits and 5 walks; 9 pitchers were used to face 77 batters, there were five mid-inning pitching changes,
and then there was the delay where they had to carry the injured SS off the field.
Game Time = 2:36

Just sayin'


btw, on that Yanqui/Pirate game, how's this for a quick hook by Stengel (on what would turn out to be his final game managing for the MFY):
1st inning (Bob Turley pitching): Fly-out, Pop-out, Walk, 2R-HR, Pop-out
2nd inning: leadoff single - GONE. The reliever (Bill Stafford) allowed 2 hits plus a walk to score both the inherited runner plus one of his own before getting out of the inning.
Casey then went to a new pitcher for the 3rd inning.




[u:3dbts4r8]Game 2 at 4:00 EDT on FOX network (not FS1)[/u:3dbts4r8]

Edgy MD
Oct 14 2017 02:07 PM
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The Committee on Combatting the Length of Games, assuming there is one, should take the time to view those old games.

I tend to think that the powers that be have mixed emotions. On one hand, longer games mean less concentrated action and lower fan retention from year to year.

On the other hand, longer games mean more beer sold in the ballpark, and more beer ads run during commercials.

Frayed Knot
Oct 14 2017 04:05 PM
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The thing is, even if we just want to cite the between inning commercial breaks which were probably more like 60 seconds back then and nearly 3 minutes now (2:55 is supposedly the limit for post-season
games) that still only accounts for maybe 3/4 of the extra 44 minutes [1:55 minutes x 16 breaks].
But that ignores that these were hardly identical games. The 1960 game managed to get in an extra 11 plate appearances, 14 more runs, 13 more hits, 1 more walk, and 4 more pitching swaps in some
13 fewer (non-commercial) minutes.

Last night's game had nearly perfect conditions for a quick(-ish) game -- low scoring, one in-inning pitching change, home team won so no bottom 9th, etc. -- and still they didn't get close to getting it in
in under 3 hours and wouldn't have even under regular season commercial break rules either. There's just too much dead time in between 'action'. After the second of Houston's two runs last night it
was another two minutes or so until the next pitch because the Yanx treated it like some existential crisis that needed to be discussed, analyzed, and strategized before they could proceed. It was a
fucking 4th inning RBI single fer crissakes, pitch to the next hitter! Tanaka wound up getting Beltran on a 2nd pitch groundout to end the inning once the committee meeting broke up which meant that,
by the time the top of the next inning started, there had been two pitches thrown during the previous five minutes.
THAT is what needs to change.

Frayed Knot
Oct 14 2017 09:19 PM
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Now THAT is how you challenge a call (Gardner's attempted triple - I'm a few minutes behind here).
Houston's 3B (Bregman) immediately signaled to his bench who immediately took his word for it -- no waiting for microscopic analysis from the eye in the sky -- and it turned out they were right.

If you're the manager and your fielder/runner leads you astray on that then you don't listen to him on the next one
But an instant decision keeps the replay for what it was designed for and not for the ticky-tacky plays at 1st base in the 1st inning.

That trying to stretch with two outs and Judge on deck was a stupid move by Gardner just makes that play a win-win all around.

MFS62
Oct 14 2017 09:53 PM
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Crap!
Its tied 1-1.
Getting nervous.
Later

Ashie62
Oct 14 2017 10:14 PM
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GO STROS!!! JUDGE CAN ---- ALTUVE'S ----

Frayed Knot
Oct 14 2017 10:22 PM
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96 pitches thru 7 IP on just 4 hits and one walk ... Verlander should have another inning in him, or at least enough to start the 8th.
With closer Giles (maybe?) unavailable after his heavy workload last night, I'd sure try to get at least one more out of JV.

Frayed Knot
Oct 14 2017 10:42 PM
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Keep that saddle on and ride 'em another lap!!! (but get him a run or two first)

Frayed Knot
Oct 14 2017 11:12 PM
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Hoe-Lee-Shit ... I can't believe he
a) tried that
and
b) pulled it off!!

On the other hand, counting on Sanchez to bungle a ball thrown to him improves your odds a bit.





and the game was under 3 hours

bmfc1
Oct 14 2017 11:24 PM
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Verlander is gonna get sooooooooo lucky tonight. And deservedly so.

Fman99
Oct 15 2017 12:45 AM
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bmfc1 wrote:
Verlander is gonna get sooooooooo lucky tonight. And deservedly so.


His lucky is a whole nother level of lucky that I can only dream of approaching (as in, dream of it, late at night, in the office after the rest of my family has gone to bed).

Edgy MD
Oct 15 2017 02:09 AM
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That bit o' luck just moved his Hall of Fame token about 20 spaces forward.

bmfc1
Oct 15 2017 01:25 PM
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[tweet:35ovg2px]https://twitter.com/denisleary/status/919341826250719232[/tweet:35ovg2px]

Edgy MD
Oct 15 2017 02:29 PM
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Also nice to see Jigantic Judge outpaced by Abbreviated Altuve.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Oct 15 2017 06:37 PM
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Great piece here about the Astro analytic thing, with a focus on Verlander's remaking himself in Houston (bonus Wise Old Beltran cameo). It's awesome to see a late-career renaissance that employs analytical tools smartly (and doesn't involve GNC bulk buys?).

In Houston, Verlander found another tool to improve and modernize his game: a super high-speed camera that shows in clear frame-by-frame detail how a baseball leaves a pitcher’s hand on every pitch. The camera showed Verlander the position of his hand on his slider that needed improvement to give it more tilt. Verlander had always thrown his slider in a way that more resembled a cutter. But with the camera’s help, he began to carve off nasty sliders that bore to the back foot of lefthanded hitters.


https://www.si.com/mlb/2017/10/15/justi ... nkees-alcs

G-Fafif
Oct 15 2017 08:59 PM
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When Houston versus New York in the middle of October stopped a city in its commuting tracks. Count all the retailers that no longer exist.

HahnSolo
Oct 16 2017 02:10 PM
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The tarmac interviews with Ray Knight and Kevin Mitchell are amazing. Like how did they pull that off to be right at the bottom of the ramp? And all I can think of is how that plane will be totally trashed within an hour or so.

Bonus points for a young and fetching Lynn White.

Frayed Knot
Oct 16 2017 07:15 PM
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So it's back to this series tonight as the scene shifts to the Bronx

Nice for Houston to be up 2-0, but it's not like they've been hitting so far this series -- four runs total and they were lucky to get a couple of those: HR making it over the wall by inches; Altuve's mad dash
home and the dropped throw or he's out by nineteen feet -- but now they're not going to have Keuchel and Verlander to fall back on for the next few games.
I mean, Charlie Morton had a nice year but it's not the same and he goes up against the suddenly rejuvenated CC Sabathia

8:00 -- FS1

Frayed Knot
Oct 17 2017 01:00 AM
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It just wouldn't be a Yanqui game without a swinging bunt, then a bloop, followed by a 3R 315 ft HR - all with 2 outs.

Fman99
Oct 17 2017 01:14 AM
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I missed the HR, saying good night to the kids, came back downstairs, saw the score, and put on the MNF game. I'll switch back if the 'Stros show any signs of life.

Mets Willets Point
Oct 17 2017 01:17 AM
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I'm so sick of teams clobbering their opponents and then rolling over and playing dead once they arrive at Yankee Stadium.

Frayed Knot
Oct 17 2017 01:21 AM
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Fman99 wrote:
I missed the HR,...


Low outside to a RH batter, butt flying out, emergency stick-the-bat-out swing, 3rd row in the RF seats.

Fman99
Oct 17 2017 01:25 AM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
Fman99 wrote:
I missed the HR,...


Low outside to a RH batter, butt flying out, emergency stick-the-bat-out swing, 3rd row in the RF seats.


What a joke of a park that is.

d'Kong76
Oct 17 2017 01:28 AM
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These things happen there, they can happen for the 'stros too.

d'Kong76
Oct 17 2017 01:32 AM
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What team is Maybin on? See the ball, catch the ball.

Edgy MD
Oct 17 2017 01:38 AM
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MLB.com headline: TODDFATHER GETS YANKS GOING IN G3.

"Toddfather"?

Mets Willets Point
Oct 17 2017 01:52 AM
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WTF, Astros???

MFS62
Oct 17 2017 02:01 AM
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We've seen Morton in the NL.
He's the kind of third or fourth starter with no one outstanding pitch that the MFYs eat alive, especially in that band box.
This isn't surprising to me.

Later

Mets Willets Point
Oct 17 2017 02:04 AM
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They need to knock Sabathia out and at least make the Yankees pen do some work before game 4.

Frayed Knot
Oct 17 2017 02:07 AM
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Morton has had a promising but injury plagued career prior to this year but has been a different pitcher this season since being healthy.
Also, prior to that Judge HR (which wasn't Morton anyway) the six MFY hits consisted of a bunt single, a swinging bunt single, another infield single, a bloop single, that fly ball which Maybin decided
he was afraid of for some reason, and a 315 ft YSIII special. It's not like he was getting hit hard.


Not that the Astros can complain as they haven't hit shit all series.

Ashie62
Oct 17 2017 02:08 AM
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Grand slam Judge.

AL MVP

Ashie62
Oct 17 2017 02:10 AM
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This game is ova.

Frayed Knot
Oct 17 2017 02:10 AM
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Grand slam Judge. -- 2 on actually

AL MVP -- notes are already in so this one won't help him. Besides, if the post-season counted he definitely wouldn't win it.

Frayed Knot
Oct 17 2017 02:15 AM
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Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 17 2017 02:16 AM

Gary Sanchez and Evan Gattis both have the body mass to make for pretty good pair of bar bouncers*.
But unfortunately the two of them are catchers for a living and neither one is exactly putting on a catching clinic here tonight.
It's like you got 500 pounds of bears back there wearing oven mitts and batting around play toys.


* I think Gattis actually was one at one point

d'Kong76
Oct 17 2017 02:15 AM
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I see I missed some additional suck.

Ashie62
Oct 17 2017 02:29 AM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
Grand slam Judge. -- 2 on actually

AL MVP -- notes are already in so this one won't help him. Besides, if the post-season counted he definitely wouldn't win it.



Wanna bet 5 CPF dollars on Altuve vs Judge for AL MVP? I'll take Judge.

Frayed Knot
Oct 17 2017 02:36 AM
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Yeah, I'll put 5 Crane bucks on Altuve - based mainly on him not having a big eight-week long doughnut in the middle of his season. Those guys will probably be 1-2 in either order on account of Trout
missing too much time with the thumb injury, but it should be close either way.
My only point was that Judge's 3R HR tonight wouldn't help him and if post-season was counted the race would tilt even further in the little guy's favor.

Frayed Knot
Oct 17 2017 02:43 AM
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Astro fans are no doubt thinking back to Memorial Day this year when they were down 8-2 to the Twins before putting up 11 runs in the 8th then 3 more in the 9th to win 16-8
Unfortunately, this isn't May and these ain't the Twins.

Edgy MD
Oct 17 2017 03:29 AM
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Let's go, 'Stros. You can't keep a Springer down!

Edgy MD
Oct 17 2017 03:33 AM
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OK, maybe not, but Bregman brings one home.

Hey, maybe this comes down to a pinch-hitting Beltran.

Edgy MD
Oct 17 2017 03:35 AM
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Oh, butt.

Mets Willets Point
Oct 17 2017 01:30 PM
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Altuve should win MVP, but with the bias towards the Yankees, I'd put money on Judge.

Frayed Knot
Oct 17 2017 06:39 PM
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Lance McCullers Jr. vs Sonny Gray at 5:00 this afternoon.

I had a bad feeling going into last night's game and unless Houston bats show up finally -- 5 runs on 15 hits thru 3 games -- I'm going to have a bad one about this whole series.
Gray can be tough to hit but also wild. Problem is that I don't have a lot of faith in the aggressive Houston hitters to lay off pitches out of the zone.
McCullers had a shaky and injury-interrupted second half.

d'Kong76
Oct 17 2017 08:50 PM
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Thanks, forgot this was an early start.

bmfc1
Oct 17 2017 08:59 PM
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Here we go Astros!

Centerfield
Oct 17 2017 09:07 PM
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I have a bad feeling about this.

Frayed Knot
Oct 17 2017 11:23 PM
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Centerfield wrote:
I have a bad feeling about this.


Little less bad right now thx to what might have been Houston's first solid contact in about three days: Gurriel's bases-clearing double w/1 out in the 6th.

Edgy MD
Oct 17 2017 11:47 PM
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Yankees forgetting to stink this inning.

Frayed Knot
Oct 18 2017 12:10 AM
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Yanx/Headley getting an extra base and getting out of an out not just despite falling down but because he fell down!!
This is like the missed cut-off/flip-play all over again. They once again fall up the stairs.

Frayed Knot
Oct 18 2017 12:20 AM
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And of course that play not made comes back to bite the 'Stros.
4-4, Yanx still batting w/1 out

Frayed Knot
Oct 18 2017 12:23 AM
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Houston Bullpen = Suxxxx

1.1 IP, 5 runs, 6 hits, 2 walks ... and counting.

HahnSolo
Oct 18 2017 12:26 AM
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They're gonna friggin win it all aren't they?

bmfc1
Oct 18 2017 12:27 AM
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Crap. I was fantasizing about the MFYs being gone at this time tomorrow. I'm sure we all were.

Frayed Knot
Oct 18 2017 12:32 AM
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HahnSolo wrote:
They're gonna friggin win it all aren't they?


They still have to get past at least one or both of Verlander & Keuchel.
But the bigger problem is that Houston has had about four good ABs in this whole series so far (one in this game). The Yanx have had more than that just in this inning and there is STILL only one out.

Frayed Knot
Oct 18 2017 12:36 AM
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The other Yanqui specialty: the full-swing grounder that comes off the bat far too shitty to be turned into a DP. I think that's three already in this game alone.
That's their go-to move when their full-swing swinging bunts aren't working.

HahnSolo
Oct 18 2017 12:37 AM
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I have no confidence in them winning a game in this ballpark.

MFS62
Oct 18 2017 01:18 AM
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Crap!

Later

Frayed Knot
Oct 18 2017 01:24 AM
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Houston, right now, looks like a team that, without the late season Verlander pickup, would be about a 75 win club.

Fman99
Oct 18 2017 02:23 AM
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This was my fault. I put it on right when it all went to shit.

Ashie62
Oct 18 2017 02:24 AM
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Same here, craptastic.

MFS62
Oct 18 2017 02:27 AM
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Fman99 wrote:
This was my fault. I put it on right when it all went to shit.

We know. And we're blaming YOU!
Later

Centerfield
Oct 18 2017 05:22 PM
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They're going to win it all. That's just how this season is going to end.

Then Noah Syndergaard will be deported. Fuck 2017.

d'Kong76
Oct 18 2017 06:47 PM
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Astros by a touchdown tonight; no way Yanks are going to Houston
and wining two (and probably not one).

Ashie62
Oct 18 2017 08:57 PM
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Johnny Bingo, here we go again.

Go Stros!

Mets Willets Point
Oct 18 2017 09:12 PM
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Centerfield wrote:
They're going to win it all. That's just how this season is going to end.

Then Noah Syndergaard will be deported. Fuck 2017.


Trump. Dodgers. Yankees.

We can't have nice things.

Edgy MD
Oct 18 2017 09:29 PM
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Dallas Keuchel, for what it's worth, has absolutely mowed the Yankees down in his career to date.

Ashie62
Oct 18 2017 09:42 PM
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Both pitchers are mowing so far.

Castro, 2 out double as I type.

Ashie62
Oct 18 2017 09:45 PM
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Bird craps on Astros 1-0 MFY's.

bmfc1
Oct 18 2017 10:24 PM
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WAKETHEFUCKUPASTROS!

HahnSolo
Oct 18 2017 11:09 PM
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Oh well this ones over. I can catch all of Double Jeopardy now

Frayed Knot
Oct 18 2017 11:20 PM
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Yanx have more hits w/RiSP in this game than the Astros do for the entire series.
Hell, Houston only has five run-scoring hits in the entire series: 2 singles in Game 1; a solo HR plus the game-winning double in Game 2 (and that 2B was really an error), and a double in Game 4, that's it!!
Their leadoff double early in this game was followed by: Weak Grounder, Weak Grounder, Weak Grounder

Rumor had it this was the best scoring team in MLB this year. If that's true I have no idea where they're hiding it.

Edgy MD
Oct 18 2017 11:21 PM
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HahnSolo
Oct 18 2017 11:23 PM
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Watching them bat reminds me of the Campbell/Mayberry Jr. Mets lineups.

HahnSolo
Oct 18 2017 11:25 PM
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All I heard before the series was that they were just like the 2015 Royals because "they don't strike out." The scout who determined that is lost.

Frayed Knot
Oct 18 2017 11:28 PM
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Oh yeah, and virtually every MFY run this entire series has come with 2 outs - so real clutch pitching too!

Frayed Knot
Oct 18 2017 11:35 PM
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And the entire Houston team is being out-hit by Chase Freakin' Headley - who I think hit .036 for the season prior to this series.

Lefty Specialist
Oct 19 2017 12:26 AM
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Why did the Astros pick this particular moment to suck?

d'Kong76
Oct 19 2017 12:29 AM
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d'Kong76 wrote:
Astros by a touchdown tonight; no way Yanks are going to Houston
and wining two (and probably not one).


For my next brilliant prediction, tune in late Friday morning for more baseball wisdom.

metirish
Oct 19 2017 12:37 AM
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Fuck this, not watching, hard to avoid them though

HahnSolo
Oct 19 2017 12:40 AM
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Thinking Hinch has to shake up the lineup. Move Reddick down for one. Or bench him if you have any faith in Cameron Maybin. I'd go top heavy (such as it is with this team right now). Springer Altuve Correa Gurriel.

41Forever
Oct 19 2017 12:57 AM
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Dammit. Just, dammit.

Frayed Knot
Oct 19 2017 01:00 AM
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A summation of Houston's "Noffense" this series:

Game 1
- a one-out single in the 4th inning
- a two-out single later that same inning

Game 2
- a solo HR which eked over the fence by like 2 inches
- Altuve's mad dash home on a double where he should have been out by 15 feet

Game 3
- a garbage time bases-loaded walk w/two outs in the 9th inning while down by 8 runs

Game 4
- a bases-clearing double (3)
- a comical Starlin Castro 2-out error

Game 5:
- None


So they've scored 9 runs in 5 games and deserve maybe half of them.
Of their whopping 22 hits, 14 are singles, 1 a solo HR.
The Yanx have committed six errors and issued 14 walks and STILL they can't score.

Ashie62
Oct 19 2017 02:20 AM
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Altuve, Correa, Springer and zilch.

MFY's even look like the better team.

Frayed Knot
Oct 19 2017 02:30 AM
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Altuve and Correa were their whole offense over the first two games but they've both disappeared since.
Springer has 1 hit for the whole series as does Martin Gonzalez and they both have one more than Reddick or than their combined 550 lbs of catchers McCann & Gattis. Bregman has 2
Yuli Gurriel has been their best hitter so far but that's a bit like being the tallest midget in the circus.

Edgy MD
Oct 19 2017 02:33 AM
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How about a little life from the BEST POSTSEASON PLAYER EVER?

d'Kong76
Oct 19 2017 03:53 AM
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I don't think Reggie Jackson is where we wanna go here, Edge.

Frayed Knot
Oct 19 2017 04:14 AM
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Speaking of Reggie, today (Wednesday) was the anniversary of his 3 HR WS game so I happened to see and hear the clips from that game.
Not sure who the p-b-p guy was because as soon as he got the first two words out of his mouth Cosell jumped in and completely took over by stomping all over the other dude's call and out-shouting him.
He then did the exact same thing on the other two ABs.

HahnSolo
Oct 19 2017 12:36 PM
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I'd move Beltran up to the fifth spot in the lineup.

Why not? Nothing's working.

Centerfield
Oct 19 2017 01:50 PM
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This crap I'm seeing about the Yankees likeable overachieving underdogs makes me hurl. How the fuck is the #2 payroll team in all of baseball an underdog? Fuckers.

HahnSolo
Oct 19 2017 02:09 PM
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Centerfield wrote:
This crap I'm seeing about the Yankees likeable overachieving underdogs makes me hurl. How the fuck is the #2 payroll team in all of baseball an underdog? Fuckers.


The "Baby Bombers" drives me nuts.
Sabathia, Robertson, Chapman, Tanaka, Gardner, Ellsbury, Headley, Holliday, Frazier, Gregorius, Castro. These guys aren't exactly wet behind the ears.

Mets Willets Point
Oct 19 2017 02:38 PM
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Being a Yankees fan means being able to say "likeable overachieving underdogs" out of one side of their mouth and "27 RINGS, BAYBEE!!!" out of the other.

Frayed Knot
Oct 19 2017 03:24 PM
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Yanqui fans of the late '90s/early '00s thought of themselves as scrappy underdogs too, this is nothing new nor is it even the most annoying part.

The real annoying part is where anything that goes right for them is only due to their brilliance and anything that goes wrong is simply something out of their control. There was stuff during the telecast
yesterday
(what, did they have some lackey call the booth in mid-game in order to feed this stuff to them?) and it's all over the papers today about how their superior scouting/preparation was
responsible for "solving" Keuchel.
Well shit, prior to yesterday he was 6-2 in 8 starts with a 1.09 ERA and in playoff matchups he had skunked you starting with the 2015 WC game and as recently as a day I like to refer to as LAST FRIDAY.
Somehow all this knowledge about how to hit him apparently didn't occur to you until the 9th of the last 9 games when the 4 runs/7 hits (5 singles) drubbing you put on him suddenly revealed that it
was your brilliance which was behind it all. Sounds more like either random variation or just the advantage of seeing someone twice in the same week to me.

There are, however, guys they seem to never be able to figure out but those are simply written off as "Yankee-killers", players whose success against the pinstripes is both unexplainable and uncorrectable
as if said player have made some kind of deal with the devil. IOW: if it works out to our advantage then it's credited to our brilliance. If it doesn't work out to our advantage then it can't be counted against us.
Brian Cashman explains trades and free agent signings this way too. Pedro Feliciano: Not our fault (Mets overused him); Jeff Weaver/Kevin Brown: Not our fault (How did I know they couldn't handle NYC?);
Cuban import doesn't work - We were shocked, SHOCKED, to find out he was older than he claimed.

SteveJRogers
Oct 20 2017 12:11 PM
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Centerfield wrote:
This crap I'm seeing about the Yankees likeable overachieving underdogs makes me hurl. How the fuck is the #2 payroll team in all of baseball an underdog? Fuckers.


I’ve seen MFY fans claim that a lot of it is dead contracts (ARod).

But yeah, as Hahn said, there are plenty of veteran, and playoff tested, performers on the roster to counter balance the few that haven’t been here before.

bmfc1
Oct 20 2017 12:26 PM
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Mets Willets Point wrote:
Being a Yankees fan means being able to say "likeable overachieving underdogs" out of one side of their mouth and "27 RINGS, BAYBEE!!!" out of the other.
BoC to MWP.

d'Kong76
Oct 20 2017 01:02 PM
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The front page of my local cat-box liner is pretty Yankee'd up this morning. 'Fan Fever at a Pitch',
'5 Things to Make You Seem Like a True Fan', Bring on Game 6' stuff...

There's a picture of two youngins holding up a placard that says, 'HEROES GET REMEMBERED BUT
LEGENDS NEVER DIE!' -- whatever the fuck that's supposed to mean. They're like 5 years old. Sad.

MFS62
Oct 20 2017 01:15 PM
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d'Kong76 wrote:
The front page of my local cat-box liner is pretty Yankee'd up this morning. 'Fan Fever at a Pitch',
'5 Things to Make You Seem Like a True Fan', Bring on Game 6' stuff...

There's a picture of two youngins holding up a placard that says, 'HEROES GET REMEMBERED BUT
LEGENDS NEVER DIE!' -- whatever the fuck that's supposed to mean. They're like 5 years old. Sad.

There was an opinion piece in one of the papers today about what the writer would do if we get an NY-LA World Series.
I'm still hoping against hope it won't happen, but if it happens I'll post it.
It was barfaricious.

Later

Mets Willets Point
Oct 20 2017 09:43 PM
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The Astros at home with Verlander on the mound which would give me hope, but it's 2017 so the Yankees will probably win 51-0 with the Astros striking out 27 times on 81 pitches.

d'Kong76
Oct 21 2017 01:28 AM
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Sniffle-sniffle through 5½, I wasn't going to go the distance on this on this
one but it's sucking me in. Let's 'stro some runs!!

metirish
Oct 21 2017 01:55 AM
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Altuve gets hot after hits......shut them down Verlander

MFS62
Oct 21 2017 01:59 AM
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3-0 Houston in the 5th.
Later

Edgy MD
Oct 21 2017 02:24 AM
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Yanquis threatening in big in the top of the seventh.

Still later

Mets Willets Point
Oct 21 2017 02:26 AM
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And Verlander is close to loading the bases so the Yankees can get a fluke big hit.

Edgy MD
Oct 21 2017 02:29 AM
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Come on, Hicks. Go down!

Edgy MD
Oct 21 2017 02:29 AM
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YEAH! That's one.

Who's this Frazier guy?

Edgy MD
Oct 21 2017 02:32 AM
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OK, two.

Headley. It's your turn.

Mets Willets Point
Oct 21 2017 02:32 AM
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OMFG!

Edgy MD
Oct 21 2017 02:35 AM
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YEAH!

Frayed Knot
Oct 21 2017 02:37 AM
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Thank you cousin George!!

Mets Willets Point
Oct 21 2017 02:37 AM
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I’ve gotten used to everything going the Yankees way so that was ... unexpected.

d'Kong76
Oct 21 2017 02:38 AM
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Time to stretch...

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Mets Willets Point
Oct 21 2017 02:41 AM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
Thank you cousin George!!


Ha!

Frayed Knot
Oct 21 2017 02:47 AM
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Now we'll see if the Astros bullpen can get through 2 innings.
They haven't been able to yet.

Frayed Knot
Oct 21 2017 02:51 AM
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The culprit is: Mr. Peacock, with the BP fastball, in Minute Maid Park

Frayed Knot
Oct 21 2017 02:55 AM
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Mets Willets Point wrote:
Frayed Knot wrote:
Thank you cousin George!!


Ha!


Considering that his grandfather was a black immigrant form Panama and my clan landed in New England in the pre-Revolution era, the odds of us being kin are pretty small.
But I'm claiming him as a relative anyway, at least for the remainder of this series.

Mets Willets Point
Oct 21 2017 02:56 AM
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3 more outs to extend the series.

Frayed Knot
Oct 21 2017 03:01 AM
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Altuve gets the run right back!!

d'Kong76
Oct 21 2017 03:01 AM
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Lil'l insurance never hurt no one.

Edgy MD
Oct 21 2017 03:02 AM
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Goliath lands a punch, and David counters.

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Frayed Knot
Oct 21 2017 03:02 AM
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I think Altuve should have said to Todd Frazier as he rounded 3rd: "Hey big boy, we can do cheap HRs here too"

Mets Willets Point
Oct 21 2017 03:03 AM
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Altuve Insurance Agency.

Frayed Knot
Oct 21 2017 03:06 AM
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So dropping relay throws that turn sure outs into runs appears to be Gary Sanchez's go-to move.

d'Kong76
Oct 21 2017 03:07 AM
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Nothing like a good unraveling.

Edgy MD
Oct 21 2017 03:09 AM
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Still no outs, Yanks.

Edgy MD
Oct 21 2017 03:12 AM
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Think Verlander is available for tomorrow?

Mets Willets Point
Oct 21 2017 03:16 AM
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Think this offense will be back tomorrow?

Frayed Knot
Oct 21 2017 03:20 AM
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He's using Giles?!?
Your closer with a six run lead?

Frayed Knot
Oct 21 2017 03:27 AM
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Already more than an average inning's worth of pitches from Giles and he still only has one out.

Mets Willets Point
Oct 21 2017 03:29 AM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
He's using Giles?!?
Your closer with a six run lead?


He’s not really closing, is he?

Mets Willets Point
Oct 21 2017 03:33 AM
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Do it again tomorrow, Houston.

d'Kong76
Oct 21 2017 03:35 AM
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27 more outs.

Edgy MD
Oct 21 2017 03:36 AM
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That's OK, Yankees. Why don't you head out to Cooter's to unwind before calling it a night?

Frayed Knot
Oct 21 2017 02:00 PM
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Game 7 - 8:00, FS1 - Sabathia vs Charlie Morton

That was the same matchup as in Game 3, one which didn't go well for the boys from Texas with Morton getting pulled in the 4th
To be fair to Morton though, he wasn't all THAT bad. He got dinged in the 2nd by that 235 ft Todd Frazier HR and then when his relief corps was called in to get him out of 2-out trouble in the 4th, he
(Will Harris) instead allowed 4 runs in his first 4 pitches (Wild Pitch + 3R HR) to effectively end the game.

What would be real nice would be if Sabathia were to turn back into the 330 lb frog we all know is lurking inside him somewhere rather than this version of him who's suddenly having, at age 37, his best
season in six years and has allowed just 3 runs in 16 post-season innings.
Maybe the Astros should just bunt a lot. I mean, sure, Sabathia and the Yanx will file a formal complaint with the commissioner charging Houston under the anti-fat shaming act, but it'll be worth it in the
long run.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Oct 21 2017 03:32 PM
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Brian McCann's head would explode amid the cognitive dissonance of breaking those unwritten rules, so win-win-win

Edgy MD
Oct 21 2017 05:40 PM
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That's bunt talk.

Sweet, beautiful bunt talk.

Frayed Knot
Oct 21 2017 11:36 PM
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Do us a solid BB Gods, you fucked up our summer so how 'bout throwing us a decent autumn. Just this one game, that's all I ask.

MFS62
Oct 22 2017 12:32 AM
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This isn't for OUR Autumn.
This is an Eternal struggle, for all mankind.

BTW- who's Bruce?

Later

Edgy MD
Oct 22 2017 01:40 AM
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I'm following through GameDay. Is Verlander available out of the pen tonight?

Ashie62
Oct 22 2017 01:41 AM
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The tables are about to turn Mr. Powers

Ashie62
Oct 22 2017 01:42 AM
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Holy Bregman and McCann!

d'Kong76
Oct 22 2017 01:45 AM
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Edgy MD wrote:
I'm following through GameDay. Is Verlander available out of the pen tonight?

Question of the day, but why not if necessary.

Ashie62
Oct 22 2017 01:52 AM
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[bigpurple:3jppq1di]ALBOOM![/bigpurple:3jppq1di]

Frayed Knot
Oct 22 2017 02:18 AM
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And FINALLY the 'Stros cash in on some RiSPys and jack it up to a 4-0 lead.
Lots 'o baseball left though.

Lance McCullers in to start the 6th

41Forever
Oct 22 2017 02:26 AM
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I like this game so far. A lot.

Frayed Knot
Oct 22 2017 02:42 AM
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I'd certainly keep McCullers in there for the 8th - especially since they (perhaps unnecessarily) used Giles for a lengthy inning last night.

Frayed Knot
Oct 22 2017 02:52 AM
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When this series is over, does Yuli Gurriel have to return his haircut to whichever boy band he borrowed it from?

Edgy MD
Oct 22 2017 03:13 AM
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1-2-3, kids. Let's do it.

Frayed Knot
Oct 22 2017 03:16 AM
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Ooooh, I think it's about to beer in my house.

41Forever
Oct 22 2017 03:19 AM
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Verducci's tears are falling like soft rain.

41Forever
Oct 22 2017 03:19 AM
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Yes!!!!

Frayed Knot
Oct 22 2017 03:20 AM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
Do us a solid BB Gods, you fucked up our summer so how 'bout throwing us a decent autumn. Just this one game, that's all I ask.


Thank you BB Gods!!

Frayed Knot
Oct 22 2017 03:21 AM
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Astros have now won just two pennants in their history, and yet become the first team to win pennants in both leagues.

41Forever
Oct 22 2017 03:22 AM
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Good for Beltran. Good for Granderson.

Frayed Knot
Oct 22 2017 03:24 AM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
Ooooh, I think it's about to beer in my house.


Hey, the forecast turned out to be accurate.

d'Kong76
Oct 22 2017 03:56 AM
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Life the next 9-10 days will now be so much more pleasant.

Edgy MD
Oct 22 2017 03:57 AM
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I wonder what one team in the central time zone and another in the west is going to do to the schedule for us Eastern Seaboarders.

SwitchHitter
Oct 22 2017 04:04 AM
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Edgy MD wrote:
I wonder what one team in the central time zone and another in the west is going to do to the schedule for us Eastern Seaboarders.

Nothing kind, I assure you.

d'Kong76
Oct 22 2017 04:12 AM
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Edgy MD wrote:
I wonder what one team in the central time zone and another in the west is going to do to the schedule for us Eastern Seaboarders.


I won't be watching much. Sayonara 2017, 'stros in six.

SwitchHitter
Oct 22 2017 04:25 AM
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Author DL Young said, "Altuve hits over .400 on pitches 95 mph or higher." Dayum. That's all I gotta say 'bout that.

Frayed Knot
Oct 22 2017 12:46 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:
I wonder what one team in the central time zone and another in the west is going to do to the schedule for us Eastern Seaboarders.


Nothing. The game time sked is locked in no matter which teams wind up in it.

MFS62
Oct 22 2017 01:50 PM
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SwitchHitter wrote:
Author DL Young said, "Altuve hits over .400 on pitches 95 mph or higher." Dayum. That's all I gotta say 'bout that.

Welcome back, Annie.
We missed you.
Go Astros!

Later

Lefty Specialist
Oct 22 2017 02:39 PM
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d'Kong76 wrote:
Life the next 9-10 days will now be so much more pleasant.


Abso-frickin-lutely. The media circus would be unbearable.

Fox has to be disappointed. But now I can watch the World Series with mild interest rather than cold dread.