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WS IGT The MFDs vs The Astros

SteveJRogers
Oct 22 2017 12:41 PM

Holy Moley vs Grandy Man, and Turner, but more importantly miserable fucks like Utley!

MFS62
Oct 22 2017 01:47 PM
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I always root for the National League team to win the World Series.
I will this year, too, even though they play in the American League.
Go Astros!
Later

Ceetar
Oct 22 2017 03:03 PM
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Other than Utley, I have no dislike for any of these players/teams, but rooting for Beltran/Astros.

Frayed Knot
Oct 23 2017 03:56 AM
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This matchup, no matter who wins, guarantees that MLB will have their 12th* different champion in the last 20 years and also makes it 21 different finalists in that same time as the Dodgers jump onto
that list (Houston, 2005, already was on). The 1997 WS winner and loser who'll fall off that list -- Miami & Cleveland -- as that year no longer qualifies as the most recent 20, have both won and made
the World Series respectively since then so their status doesn't change.
Just three organizations have failed to at least reach an LCS in that time period [Washington, Milwaukee, Cincinnati]

The NFL, meanwhile, has had 11 different champs over that same time and 19 different SB participants, plus have had nine franchises who have failed to reach a conference title game.
Can't wait to be told again about how the salary cap is necessary to ensure parity.

* CHC, KCR, PHI, CHW, MIA, LAA, ARZ, SFG x3, BOS x3, NYY x4, StL x2 + LAD/HOU

Mets Willets Point
Oct 23 2017 02:52 PM
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Dodgers
Pros: Granderson, Dodger Stadium, classic uniforms, I kind of like Puig's nuttiness
Cons: Betrayed Brooklyn, fans are too blase, massive payroll, already have 6 championships & 22 pennants, 1988, Utley, Scully is retired

Astros
Pros: Beat the Yankees, Verlander, Beltran, Altuve, Never won a WS, something to cheer people up after Hurricane Harvey, won 101 games with 18th place payroll
Cons: still weird that they're in the AL, no longer wear the rainbow uniforms

I think this clearly favors the Astros for my rooting interest.

Benjamin Grimm
Oct 23 2017 02:56 PM
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no longer wear the rainbow uniforms

I'd put that in the "pro" column.

I guess there's more reasons to root for Houston than for the Dodgers, but I don't feel a strong preference either way. I'd be okay with the Dodgers winning.

Mets Willets Point
Oct 23 2017 02:57 PM
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Benjamin Grimm wrote:
no longer wear the rainbow uniforms

I'd put that in the "pro" column.

I guess there's more reasons to root for Houston than for the Dodgers, but I don't feel a strong preference either way. I'd be okay with the Dodgers winning.

I like weird things and those uniforms were weird and set the Astros apart. Now they look like any other team.

Edgy MD
Oct 23 2017 02:59 PM
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It's not so much weird things with me. I like things that make teams distinct from each other, philosophically, aesthetically, and sartorially. The uniforms made the Astros the Astros. That number splashed across J.R. Richard's muscular thigh was like the most poetically illicit thing since Jimi Hendrix. They were great.

Benjamin Grimm
Oct 23 2017 03:05 PM
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I remember disliking the uniform number on the pants even more than I did the rainbow stripes, which is saying quite a lot.

I think, however, a uniform I hated even more than that was the more recent Rockies vests with the flared shoulders. They're not still wearing those, are they?

Mets Willets Point
Oct 23 2017 03:32 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:
It's not so much weird things with me. I like things that make teams distinct from each other, philosophically, aesthetically, and sartorially. The uniforms made the Astros the Astros. That number splashed across J.R. Richard's muscular thigh was like the most poetically illicit thing since Jimi Hendrix. They were great.

Seems like their newer stadium, the steam train, and the uniforms have more in common with the Old West west theme of the Colt .45s than the futurism of the Astros. Not that I'd endorse returning to the Colt .45s name.

Benjamin Grimm
Oct 23 2017 03:35 PM
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I kind of wish they had changed the team's name with the move to the American League. There was talk that they were considering it. (Someone here on this forum brilliantly suggested the "Tralfazzes".) I think it wouldn't be so strange to see the "Houston Mosquitoes" as an American League team as it is seeing the Astros in the other league.

This thing with the Astros is even stranger than the earlier move by the Brewers, because at least Milwaukee has a past history as a National League city.

Benjamin Grimm
Oct 23 2017 03:39 PM
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I don't know what went wrong with this archive page, but it was G-Fafif who suggested the Houston Tralfazes back in 2012: Houston Bees?

Frayed Knot
Oct 23 2017 03:44 PM
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Selig used the occasion of the sale of the team to the current owner to pretty much strong-arm Houston into switching leagues.

My main problem with their uniforms over the years is that they keep switching them every other week; not just styles but colors and logos too.
Their Blue & Orange scheme now doesn't come close to matching the brick red they had during the Biggio/Bagwell era and the early days of this current stadium, and at some point the shooting star
gave way to the open-ended star which morphed into the current H within the star ...

Centerfield
Oct 23 2017 05:02 PM
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I don't know. When I hear "Astro", I think green and gray.

SwitchHitter
Oct 23 2017 09:25 PM
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My Astros wore sand, brick, and black.

In Texas state, there's one Lone Star
It's on the cap and sleeve
Of the greatest baseball team by far
Our team and we believe!
The Astros fight—they don't hold back
With bat and glove and ball
They proudly wear sand, brick, and black
And give the game their all.

bmfc1
Oct 24 2017 12:16 PM
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http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/2112 ... os-win-all
22 of 35 "experts" pick the Dodgers. I'll go with HOU in 6.

41Forever
Oct 24 2017 12:48 PM
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Astros get points for having this guy:

[youtube:gboy0ba8]oVH3j31pV7Y[/youtube:gboy0ba8]

Frayed Knot
Oct 24 2017 12:55 PM
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8:09 first pitch (or so they claim) tonight - FOX Network

Keuchel vs Kershaw, so I guess we should appropriately expect a lot of Ks

Expected Game Time temp at first pitch: 97 degrees! after peaking at around 101 a few hours earlier. Sun will still be up too on account of it being 5PM local time which probably gives the fans even
more reason than usual to show up late lest they wind up baked in their seats over the first 2-3 innings.
I knew that October* is sometimes the warmest time of the year in parts of California, but I wasn't expecting this! Wasn't sure that it ever got this hot there, not in coastal California anyway.

* a quick check shows 10 days hitting 90 or above in LA for this past July & August combined. Today & tomorrow will make it the 8th & 9th days in October alone including five days at 97 or above.

Frayed Knot
Oct 24 2017 12:58 PM
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41Forever wrote:
Astros get points for having this guy:

The wrong guy is in the costume.

metirish
Oct 24 2017 12:59 PM
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I look forward to this WS, stress free now that the MFY are not in it. Some be some great pitching , Dodgers have the excellent bullpen. Hard not to like Altuve and their 1st baseman ...Puig could light this thing up too.

Edgy MD
Oct 24 2017 01:22 PM
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And a hunnert degrees in the shade.

MFS62
Oct 24 2017 01:53 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:
And a hunnert degrees in the shade.

Fans who rooted for the team when they represented Brooklyn have since wished they'd end up in a warm place.
That's still too cool, by a lot.

Later

Edgy MD
Oct 24 2017 03:22 PM
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An oral history of the genesis of the rainbow unis.

bmfc1
Oct 24 2017 05:37 PM
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"Dodgers add Corey Seager and Brandon McCarthy to World Series roster, drop Curtis Granderson and Kyle Farmer."

There goes a reason, perhaps the only reason, to root for the Dodgers.

Edgy MD
Oct 24 2017 05:55 PM
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They are so going to lose.

A Boy Named Seo
Oct 24 2017 06:01 PM
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I would love to see the best pitcher of this generation be awesome 2 or 3 times and win a ring, despite turd Chase Utley going 0-17 and deciding to retire immediately after the WS ends.

seawolf17
Oct 24 2017 06:55 PM
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bmfc1 wrote:
"Dodgers add Corey Seager and Brandon McCarthy to World Series roster, drop Curtis Granderson and Kyle Farmer."

There goes a reason, perhaps the only reason, to root for the Dodgers.

SERIOUSLY?!?! You fucking assholes. Screw you, Dodgers.

Frayed Knot
Oct 24 2017 07:13 PM
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Considering that Grandy hit .161 with 33 Ks in 112 ABs following the trade (albeit with some power and walks thrown in) and then had a single single across 15 ABs during the playoffs, leaving him off
the WS roster surprises me not, especially seeing as how Andre Ethier has seemingly come off his death bed (just 58 ABs since the end of the 2015 season!!) to provide similar LH OF/PH skills.
With Seager back and Puig both hitting and behaving himself (at least by Puig standards) one of Ethier/Grandy had to go so it's not surprising that they chose the one with the 12 years of Dodger
pedigree over the one with 12 weeks.

Edgy MD
Oct 24 2017 08:18 PM
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Andre Ethier is still on the planet? And he's still a Dodger, you say?

Will James Loney be appearing?

Benjamin Grimm
Oct 24 2017 08:25 PM
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I'm wondering if Rick Monday will get into any of the games.

Lefty Specialist
Oct 24 2017 08:33 PM
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Expect lots of Tommy Lasorda shots tonight. And Mary Hart's legs.

Frayed Knot
Oct 24 2017 08:42 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:
Andre Ethier is still on the planet? And he's still a Dodger, you say?

Ethier's never been anything but a Dodger, is still a Dodger and, except for Kershaw and Adrian Gonzalez, is probably the highest paid Dodger even though injuries limited him to 16 games/26 PA in 2016
and 22/38 this year. But he was 2-for-9 with a Homer during the playoffs so far which is more than Grandy did.
The kicker is that he also has an option for next season although I doubt the vesting option kicked in considering his lack of playing time so I'm assuming they'll just buy him out and send him on his way.

But they can't buy Adrian Gonzalez out because he Does have a contract for 2018 and it's at $22.5 million. Not sure that his .287 OBA, 3 HRs, or 69 OPS+ in 250 PA quite justifies that.
Plus there's that Bellinger kid currently playing his position.

It's kind of like the Yanx where two of their bigger salaries this year were ARod and Ellsbury and ARod had almost as many playoff ABs

Ashie62
Oct 24 2017 09:46 PM
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Astros all the way baby!

Fman99
Oct 25 2017 12:25 AM
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No live feed of Fox in my basement, post-cord-cut, so we're watching the Espanol version via Fox Deportes. Works for me.

Frayed Knot
Oct 25 2017 01:40 AM
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What delivery system gives you FOX Deportes but not FOX itself?

Frayed Knot
Oct 25 2017 01:49 AM
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Even with Keuchel having trouble putting away the 6th inning, this game is still well under 2 hours to this point.
Not sure when the last sub-3:00 WS game was and I'm pretty sure there haven't been any in any of this year's playoffs up until now.

41Forever
Oct 25 2017 02:00 AM
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Nice version of "God Bless America." I like when they do that!

Fman99
Oct 25 2017 02:50 AM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
What delivery system gives you FOX Deportes but not FOX itself?

Playstation Vue. I get the major networks but in an "on demand" fashion, most shows are uploaded anytime from 2 days to 2 weeks after they air. No live broadcasts though for ABC, NBC, or Fox. And CBS isn't an option at all - my wife subscribed to "CBS All Access" to do her part, as she likes a number of the shows that air on that station.

I get the major networks live upstairs using my HD antenna, but I'm more comfortable in my basement.

Lefty Specialist
Oct 25 2017 12:32 PM
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Justin Turner. Of course.

MFS62
Oct 25 2017 01:52 PM
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Turner got a suggestion from Sandy Koufax.
https://sports.yahoo.com/world-series-s ... 23129.html

Now I'm torn.
My emotions are on overload.
Sandy, please stay away.
I really don't like that team.

Later

Edgy MD
Oct 25 2017 04:42 PM
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Keith Olbermann on Norman Lloyd, Dodger fan.

[fimg=600]http://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=%2Fphoto%2F2017%2F1024%2Fr279201_1296x729_16%2D9.jpg&w=920&h=518&scale=crop&cquality=80&location=origin[/fimg]

Lefty Specialist
Oct 25 2017 07:11 PM
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That's cool. And he was hilarious in Trainwreck.

Frayed Knot
Oct 26 2017 02:03 AM
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Do you suppose Steve Garvey's hair has even moved since the 1970's?

Frayed Knot
Oct 26 2017 02:20 AM
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2nd night in a row that Dodgers bust up a 1-1 tie with a 2-out walk followed by a HR in the bottom of the 6th.

Houston still looking for their first WS [u:14nvqjoj]Game[/u:14nvqjoj] win ever.
In 2005 they lost by 2 runs, by 1 run (walk-off bottom 9), by 2 in the 14th inning, and by 1 (1-0 by an 8th inning run), and then by 2 runs last night.

Frayed Knot
Oct 26 2017 03:37 AM
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Free baseball tonight but not yet any free tacos!?!

Frayed Knot
Oct 26 2017 04:08 AM
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Man, Houston out-hitting the Dodgers 12-4 thru 10 innings and they still can't hold the lead.

Edgy MD
Oct 26 2017 04:13 AM
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Still, trading deuces in the tenth is sweet.

Frayed Knot
Oct 26 2017 04:15 AM
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FREE TACOS!!!!!

Not that I've taken advantage of any of the other free tacos over the years (not sure I've ever even been to a Taco Bell) but I like that it didn't go unfulfilled.

Edgy MD
Oct 26 2017 04:19 AM
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All hail Springer!

Edgy MD
Oct 26 2017 04:33 AM
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Two out in the 11th, and just as I'm question carrying this character name Charlie Culberson and his .497 OPS over Granderson, the guy homers to left-center.

Edgy MD
Oct 26 2017 04:38 AM
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Boom. Puig goes down hacking Houston takes it.

bmfc1
Oct 26 2017 10:51 AM
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I just watched the condensed game (20 minutes)--what was Culbertson going nuts about in the 11th? His HR brought LA to within one which is great but he celebrated as if he tied or won the game.

Ashie62
Oct 26 2017 11:55 AM
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The Astros win! The Astros win!

Frayed Knot
Oct 26 2017 12:13 PM
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Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 26 2017 12:14 PM

Edgy MD wrote:
Two out in the 11th, and just as I'm question carrying this character name Charlie Culberson and his .497 OPS over Granderson, the guy homers to left-center.

And Culberson was the guy double-switched in for Bellinger!!!
I thought Roberts overdid it on a couple of occasions last night. Once he was overly quick pulling the starting pitcher [Hill = 1 run on 3 hits + 3 BBs, 7 Ks and just 60 pitches over 4 IP] it set off a chain
reaction down the road which not only left him in a position where he's double-switching his 40-HR rookie out of the game but also left him with no option but to try and finish the game with a starter
(McCarthy] who's thrown six innings total on just three appearances since mid-July, and none in the post-season to date.

Boom. Puig goes down hacking Houston takes it.

All they were saying, was give Puig a chance (but it didn't work)

I just watched the condensed game (20 minutes)--what was Culbertson going nuts about in the 11th? His HR brought LA to within one which is great but he celebrated as if he tied or won the game.

A bit over the top, eh?

Fman99
Oct 26 2017 12:14 PM
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I went to bed and missed all the drama. I can't stay up so late as to catch the good part of the game any more, because I'm a tired old man.

SwitchHitter
Oct 26 2017 12:51 PM
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me too.

I like free baseball in principle. Especially when I can actually watch it on my home TV. (We have Roku and an antenna.)

But I tend to awaken at 4, local....do the math.

metirish
Oct 26 2017 02:54 PM
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WOW, went to bed after Jansen closed of the 8th, shocked to read all what happened after.

HahnSolo
Oct 26 2017 03:15 PM
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Nine straight games watching this supposedly great Houston offense, I fall asleep at 3-3, and then they decide to start hitting.

A Boy Named Seo
Oct 26 2017 04:13 PM
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Really been two wonderful games to watch. What the fuck has gotten into Verlander? Touched up by a couple homers, but still pretty sensational.

Edgy MD
Oct 26 2017 04:14 PM
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Verlander has switched to the curve in an age of the fastball-slider pitcher. And it's absolutely fooling people out of their pants.

A Boy Named Seo
Oct 26 2017 04:27 PM
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I'll stick this Verlander Bugs Bunny curve and delicious Todd Frazier swing in any thread where it's remotely relevant.

[tweet:2v1vrjsv]https://twitter.com/MLBONFOX/status/921548697359466496[/tweet:2v1vrjsv]

metirish
Oct 26 2017 06:22 PM
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Damn , that's a joy to watch

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Oct 27 2017 07:15 AM
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A Boy Named Seo wrote:
Really been two wonderful games to watch. What the fuck has gotten into Verlander? Touched up by a couple homers, but still pretty sensational.

Psst!

Frayed Knot
Oct 28 2017 01:31 AM
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So with Darvish getting rolled in the early innings of Game 3 here an exiting with the score 4-0 Houston after recording just 5 outs, you think maybe Dave Roberts regrets pulling Rich Hill in Game 2
after just 4 innings/1 Run/3 Hits/60 Pitches and therefore leaning on his pen for 8 pitchers and 7 innings including 20+ pitches from four different guys?

Fman99
Oct 28 2017 02:10 AM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
So with Darvish getting rolled in the early innings of Game 3 here an exiting with the score 4-0 Houston after recording just 5 outs, you think maybe Dave Roberts regrets pulling Rich Hill in Game 2
after just 4 innings/1 Run/3 Hits/60 Pitches and therefore leaning on his pen for 8 pitchers and 7 innings including 20+ pitches from four different guys?

Sure, their team won 104 games, but, you know, it's the playoffs, so they have to do everything differently from the way that worked for them the whole season, all because they have two days off in a five day stretch.

It's beyond stupid.

Frayed Knot
Oct 28 2017 03:22 AM
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An extra-long five minute break in order to get in the 7th inning stretch dog and pony show, followed by a double on the first pitch of the bottom of the inning, followed by a pitching change and another
two minute break. IOW, one pitch over a seven minute span ... and they wonder why these games last four hours.

Fman99
Oct 28 2017 03:36 AM
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I mean, it's 11:35, and I'm two strong drinks in (Friday, y'all!) and this game started 3 1/2 hours ago. And there are two innings left. Oh well.

Frayed Knot
Oct 28 2017 03:45 AM
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Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 28 2017 05:37 PM

From the last out in the top of the 7th inning until the last out in the bottom of the 7th [u:pl1vf46u]took 21 minutes to play -- 13 pitches were thrown during that time.[/u:pl1vf46u]

Frayed Knot
Oct 28 2017 01:00 PM
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The big question on the docket at the moment is whether Houston 1B Yuli Gurriel's reported 'slant eyes' gesture towards You Darvish is going to land him a suspension heading into Game 4.
I didn't hear anything about this until after the game and the only evidence I've seen is subject to interpretation, one of those things that you'll see if you're looking for it but wouldn't even notice otherwise.

bmfc1
Oct 28 2017 02:03 PM
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Fman99 wrote:
I mean, it's 11:35, and I'm two strong drinks in (Friday, y'all!) and this game started 3 1/2 hours ago. And there are two innings left. Oh well.
MLB is so damn stupid. 48% of the country lives in the eastern time zone but the culmination of the season is played after most of it/us have gone to bed. I spoke with 4 baseball loving fans on Thursday and none saw the last innings of the epic game on Wednesday night. MLB loves us in May when our team is playing damn Milwaukee but doesn't give a crap about us when the "classic" is on. We'll be back in March but how does this grow the game?

And F those new 6 second commercials.
[fimg=750]https://metricmaps.files.wordpress.com/2017/05/time-zone-pop.png[/fimg]

41Forever
Oct 28 2017 02:12 PM
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That's a fascinating map. Wyoming needs people.

I went to bed before the big extra-inning outburst, too.

bmfc1
Oct 28 2017 02:47 PM
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41Forever wrote:
That's a fascinating map. Wyoming needs people.

And yet they have the same number of Senators as New York and California... but I digress.

bmfc1
Oct 28 2017 02:51 PM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
The big question on the docket at the moment is whether Houston 1B Yuli Gurriel's reported 'slant eyes' gesture towards You Darvish is going to land him a suspension heading into Game 4.
I didn't hear anything about this until after the game and the only evidence I've seen is subject to interpretation, one of those things that you'll see if you're looking for it but wouldn't even notice otherwise.
"
This is a test for Manfred. Will he accept Gurriel's "apology" ("I love those people! I meant no disrespect. If Darvish was upset, I'm sorry"), suspend him for a game now to make a statement, or kick it down the road until he can meet with Gurriel in the off-season to "truly assess the situation")?
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-dod ... story.html

Benjamin Grimm
Oct 28 2017 03:14 PM
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Any suspension would likely be served in April, because of the right to appeal.

I haven't seen this incident. I'll have to look for a clip online.

bmfc1
Oct 28 2017 03:17 PM
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http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/2118 ... yu-darvish

Benjamin Grimm
Oct 28 2017 03:18 PM
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Okay, I found the video.

http://www.totalprosports.com/2017/10/2 ... ies-video/

It keeps looping, with a voice (sounds like Bob Costas?) saying over and over again "and that's the guilty party".

Was the gesture mentioned at all during the telecast? Or is it something that caught fire with online commentary?

Frayed Knot
Oct 28 2017 03:36 PM
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Benjamin Grimm wrote:
Was the gesture mentioned at all during the telecast? Or is it something that caught fire with online commentary?

I don't think it was mentioned during the game (although it's possible I missed a bit coming in or out of commercial breaks).
I first heard about it when I flicked on the radio after the game was over. The chatter seemed to be mostly among mainstream media types there covering the game rather than just on-line agitators
but I can't say exactly who 'started' it.

I have to say that those I heard last night seemed to be much more sure that this was a 'thing' than I was once I saw it this morning. If this were a replay review I'd have to say there's not enough
evidence to convict Gurriel on the offense even though that may have been exactly what he was doing.

Frayed Knot
Oct 28 2017 03:44 PM
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bmfc1 wrote:
And F those new 6 second commercials.

I actually think ads like that are part of the future.
When I'm elected king of baseball (lifetime appointment of course) and outlaw the additional warmup pitches the incoming relief pitcher gets when he comes on in mid-inning, having short ads that run
while the new pitcher comes in and without cutting from the action entirely is how the clubs are going to make up for any time they lose by not taking a full commercial break.

Frayed Knot
Oct 28 2017 08:24 PM
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Five game suspension for Gurriel ... to be served next season.

Edgy MD
Oct 28 2017 08:36 PM
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I thought he'd get a stern warning. I guess a suspension next season for post-season infractions this season kind of follows the Roberto Alomar/Roger Clemens precedent, but I guess since it wasn't an on-field, in-competition infraction (like Clemens'), it makes sense.

I saw Iggy Pop like 25 years ago. During "China Girl," he curled up with his head between his knees sorta fetal-style during the guitar solo, and when he came out of that position, he had his hands on the side of his head, violently pulling his skin back in the mock-Asian-eyes style. And even then, his skin was loosely attached to his face, so the effect was dramatic. I'm sure he was trying to make a meaningful statement, but for a guy with an Asian wife, singing a song about racism, it was an uncomfortable moment to be part of.

Fman99
Oct 29 2017 02:22 AM
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Both managers stupid early with the hooks on the SP. Wood gives up his first hit and gets lifted, and Morton's thrown less than 80 pitches through six? Just dumb.

Fman99
Oct 29 2017 02:27 AM
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And it costs them, as the bullpen coughs up the tying run on an RBI single to the gap.

Frayed Knot
Oct 29 2017 03:09 AM
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Houston's erstwhile closer Ken Giles hasn't won himself many fans in this post-season.

Edgy MD
Oct 29 2017 04:10 AM
Re: WS IGT The MFDs vs The Astros

Fman99 wrote:
Both managers stupid early with the hooks on the SP. Wood gives up his first hit and gets lifted, and Morton's thrown less than 80 pitches through six? Just dumb.

What gives?

Centerfield
Oct 29 2017 04:15 AM
Re: WS IGT The MFDs vs The Astros

Frayed Knot wrote:

I have to say that those I heard last night seemed to be much more sure that this was a 'thing' than I was once I saw it this morning. If this were a replay review I'd have to say there's not enough
evidence to convict Gurriel on the offense even though that may have been exactly what he was doing.

Is this a serious statement? What the fuck else could he have been doing?

And I assure you that this is a “thing”.

Centerfield
Oct 29 2017 04:43 AM
Re: WS IGT The MFDs vs The Astros

Frayed Knot wrote:
The big question on the docket at the moment is whether Houston 1B Yuli Gurriel's reported 'slant eyes' gesture towards You Darvish is going to land him a suspension heading into Game 4.
I didn't hear anything about this until after the game and the only evidence I've seen is subject to interpretation, one of those things that you'll see if you're looking for it but wouldn't even notice otherwise.

So there is no racism unless one happens to be looking for it?

This is such a stupid statement I don’t know where to start. It’s not subject to interpretation. And it’s pretty fucking noticeable.

It’s a slur. There is no other interpretation. There should be no tolerance for it. Does he need to come out in blackface for the point to be clear?

Did he not mean to offend anyone? He should start by not using slurs. Verbal or physical.

Don’t know what’s worse. The slur itself or white america saying “what’s the big fucking deal”.

I mean, he stood up for the anthem right? All good.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Oct 29 2017 06:48 AM
Re: WS IGT The MFDs vs The Astros

I wasn't watching the Gurriel thing. But I saw it later in the evening, after work. It's quick, but... come on.

If you were watching at that moment, and you didn't notice, well... There is no mistaking what he was doing, man. So if you're missing his message, you're doing so because you can afford to or because you're opting out of noticing. Y'ever wonder what "white privilege" is? Well, bud, I don't mean to sound accusatory, but you're sitting in it.

Frayed Knot
Oct 29 2017 12:21 PM
Re: WS IGT The MFDs vs The Astros

Centerfield wrote:
Is this a serious statement? What the fuck else could he have been doing?

I dunno, touching the sides of his head for half a second?
My point is that not only didn't I see it but that, even if I were directly looking at him at the time, unless I were told what to look for and why, I still likely would have missed it.

That there were no denials coming from him or from Houston indicates that's probably exactly what he was doing and so I have no problem with Manfred's response.

bmfc1
Oct 29 2017 01:10 PM
Re: WS IGT The MFDs vs The Astros

Frayed Knot wrote:
bmfc1 wrote:
And F those new 6 second commercials.

... having short ads that run while the new pitcher comes in and without cutting from the action entirely is how the clubs are going to make up for any time they lose by not taking a full commercial break.

I'd be fine with that but not in addition.

d'Kong76
Oct 29 2017 01:48 PM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
Five game suspension for Gurriel ... to be served next season.

Personally, I think it should have been the two WS home games. Five games in April isn't a pun-
Ishment, it's a cop out.

Centerfield
Oct 29 2017 02:42 PM
Re: WS IGT The MFDs vs The Astros

Frayed Knot wrote:
Centerfield wrote:
Is this a serious statement? What the fuck else could he have been doing?

I dunno, touching the sides of his head for half a second?
My point is that not only didn't I see it but that, even if I were directly looking at him at the time, unless I were told what to look for and why, I still likely would have missed it.

That there were no denials coming from him or from Houston indicates that's probably exactly what he was doing and so I have no problem with Manfred's response.

If you really don’t know what that gesture means, and have trouble seeing it, even on replay, then I don’t know what else to say.

For me, it’s pretty clear cut. The gesture is there. He doesn’t need to hold it like a yoga pose in order to have its effect. I don’t agree that it’s subject to interpretation. It has only meant one thing ever.

As LWFS says above, being able to “not see it” or ignore it is nice. It’s nice when racism is someone else’s problem. It’s a nice luxury to be all too cool for school. “I don’t see what the big deal is.” When we watch the game with our kids we don’t have that option.

People who really don’t know about all this racism stuff can choose a few different paths.

One can get educated. Consider that maybe there is something to it, since all these minorities seem to be worked up over something. Become informed and become part of the solution.

One can say nothing. Which sucks in itself, but at least you are not actively contributing to the problem.

Or you can gloss it over. Minimize it. Imply that those offended must be looking to be offended. You justify the action. Embolden those that act offensively and quash the efforts of those speaking out against bigotry.

It’s regrettable you chose the last one.

Frayed Knot
Oct 29 2017 02:47 PM
Re: WS IGT The MFDs vs The Astros

d'Kong76 wrote:
Personally, I think it should have been the two WS home games. Five games in April isn't a punIshment, it's a cop out.

A longer suspension during the season, as opposed to two games now, hits the player harder but the team less, which I think is the right idea.
Plus, since the players don't get paid per-game during the post-season in the way that they do during the season, the five-gamer hits him in the wallet as well (a shade over 3% of his pay).
I'm OK with it.

d'Kong76
Oct 29 2017 02:52 PM
Re: WS IGT The MFDs vs The Astros

I don't care about his pay, I care about punishment. Keeping him out of two
WS games is a punishment - no one knows when you'll get back to one so you
go watch in the clubhouse and think about how much of a childish dick you were.

2 WS games and 5 games in April is an even better idea.

41Forever
Oct 29 2017 02:56 PM
Re: WS IGT The MFDs vs The Astros

Noting the irony that he gets a five-game suspension for a gesture in the dugout. Meanwhile the Braves organist leads an entire stadium in the tomahawk chop.

d'Kong76
Oct 29 2017 02:59 PM
Re: WS IGT The MFDs vs The Astros

I'm all for removing all Native-American stuff from sports, Governor.

Centerfield
Oct 29 2017 03:12 PM
Re: WS IGT The MFDs vs The Astros

d'Kong76 wrote:
I don't care about his pay, I care about punishment. Keeping him out of two
WS games is a punishment - no one knows when you'll get back to one so you
go watch in the clubhouse and think about how much of a childish dick you were.

2 WS games and 5 games in April is an even better idea.

All weekend long I’ve had to deal with this. Some dickhead makes a racist gesture and now I have to discuss it with my kids. I have to do it again when the dickheads in Houston give him a standing fucking ovation.

And I have to deal with it at my son’s games and at a party Saturday night not because I am walking around preaching about it, but because people are raising it to me in the “come on CF, it’s not that bad right?” Way that people do.

It’s annoying to have to be that guy who gets all righteous but fuck that if I’m going to condone that shit.

What I realize now is I need to start bringing Kong to parties with me.

Frayed Knot
Oct 29 2017 03:19 PM
Re: WS IGT The MFDs vs The Astros

Centerfield wrote:
If you really don’t know what that gesture means, and have trouble seeing it, even on replay, then I don’t know what else to say.

Yeah, I'm aware of what the gesture means. I get out of my ivory tower every once in a while and read up on stuff like that before locking myself back in.
What I'm saying is that if I was looking at it live I would have (and did) miss it, and even after being informed of what and where to look I still wasn't sure if that's what he was doing.

Ashie62
Oct 29 2017 03:33 PM
Re: WS IGT The MFDs vs The Astros

Can we just eliminate the sports-industrial complex.

Each day in pro sports their seems to be a monket trying eff a football.

Amateurs also.

Frayed Knot
Oct 30 2017 02:19 AM
Re: WS IGT The MFDs vs The Astros

And sometimes the pitching matchups you expect just don't materialize.
On the downside ... it's taken them nearly two hours to play 4 innings.

41Forever
Oct 30 2017 02:54 AM
Re: WS IGT The MFDs vs The Astros

d'Kong76 wrote:
I'm all for removing all Native-American stuff from sports, Governor.

Not disagreeing, though I think there is a difference between Indians and Redskins — how has that lasted? — and names like Braves and Chiefs.

d'Kong76
Oct 30 2017 03:25 AM
Re: WS IGT The MFDs vs The Astros

We've been through all this before I'm sure. I don't mean you and I, but in another
thread or three. The Redskins are the worst. The common-sense test is would, say,
the Washington Brownskins with a picture of a black-dude profile on the helmet fly?
Of course not. Then why is Redskins appropriate?

41Forever
Oct 30 2017 04:01 AM
Re: WS IGT The MFDs vs The Astros

d'Kong76 wrote:
We've been through all this before I'm sure. I don't mean you and I, but in another
thread or three. The Redskins are the worst. The common-sense test is would, say,
the Washington Brownskins with a picture of a black-dude profile on the helmet fly?
Of course not. Then why is Redskins appropriate?

You are 100 percent correct. It is stunning that people still defend it.

MFS62
Oct 30 2017 12:27 PM
Re: WS IGT The MFDs vs The Astros

Back to the thread title.
Astros win, now going back to LA with a 3-2 game lead.

Later

metirish
Oct 30 2017 12:56 PM
Re: WS IGT The MFDs vs The Astros

Great games but fuck me I can't stay up for them , 7:15 would be a better starting time

Frayed Knot
Oct 30 2017 01:15 PM
Re: WS IGT The MFDs vs The Astros

And something less than 5:17 would be a better running time.

Think Dave Roberts' bullpen might be feeling some effects from his 'formula' where he preemptively pulls effective starters after 4 innings?

metirish
Oct 30 2017 01:49 PM
Re: WS IGT The MFDs vs The Astros

Frayed Knot wrote:
And something less than 5:17 would be a better running time.

Think Dave Roberts' bullpen might be feeling some effects from his 'formula' where he preemptively pulls effective starters after 4 innings?

That too, got spoiled with the 2:28 game last week

batmagadanleadoff
Oct 30 2017 03:48 PM
Re: WS IGT The MFDs vs The Astros

Frayed Knot wrote:
Personally, I think it should have been the two WS home games. Five games in April isn't a punIshment, it's a cop out.

A longer suspension during the season, as opposed to two games now, hits the player harder but the team less, which I think is the right idea.
Plus, since the players don't get paid per-game during the post-season in the way that they do during the season, the five-gamer hits him in the wallet as well (a shade over 3% of his pay).
I'm OK with it.

I don't care about his pay, I care about punishment. Keeping him out of two
WS games is a punishment - no one knows when you'll get back to one so you
go watch in the clubhouse and think about how much of a childish dick you were.

2 WS games and 5 games in April is an even better idea.

Remember the Utley/Tejada take-out slide? Of course youse do. That's probably why MLB didn't bother to have Gurriel's suspension take effect during the WS: because Gurriel has the right to challenge the suspension and the process would take longer than the Series itself. A challenge by Gurriel would guarantee that the suspension, even if upheld, would never take effect during the WS. That's what happened in the Mets/Dodgers playoff series of 2015.

Ceetar
Oct 30 2017 04:10 PM
Re: WS IGT The MFDs vs The Astros

Torre said the suspension "sort of lost its impact" once it became clear that Utley, who signed a one-year, $7-million deal with the Dodgers this winter, would not miss any postseason games.

They tried to expedite the appeal, and they could have, if they really wanted to. The players association asked for more time and hence didn't agree to a hearing before game 3.

They very well could've done the same thing here, and at the very least (From MLB's standpoint) it would've shifted the blame to the players association if they dragged their feet.

batmagadanleadoff
Oct 30 2017 04:15 PM
Re: WS IGT The MFDs vs The Astros

Ceetar wrote:
Torre said the suspension "sort of lost its impact" once it became clear that Utley, who signed a one-year, $7-million deal with the Dodgers this winter, would not miss any postseason games.

They tried to expedite the appeal, and they could have, if they really wanted to. The players association asked for more time and hence didn't agree to a hearing before game 3.

They very well could've done the same thing here, and at the very least (From MLB's standpoint) it would've shifted the blame to the players association if they dragged their feet.

I don;t know how much the process could be expedited. A player can't reasonably assemble his appeal in a day or two. And the MLBPA would gladly take the hit for accepting any "blame" on behalf of their players. That's their job -- taking the blame so that a player doesn't miss any WS games is what they're supposed to be doing.

Ceetar
Oct 30 2017 04:34 PM
Re: WS IGT The MFDs vs The Astros

They seem prepared to hear Utley's case before game 3, though I guess it being actually in NY plays a part. But maybe they could be prepared and fly people out to Houston. or have the players association appear on behalf of Gurriel, who probably doesn't actually need to be present.

In any case, MLB could've tried anyway and had the PA take the blame for the delay rather than appearing soft on racism.

41Forever
Oct 30 2017 04:57 PM
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Meanwhile, this guy.

[url]https://deadspin.com/televised-larceny-1819961935

Steals a home run ball from the person who caught it and throws it back on the field.

So much wrong here. Note the expression on his face. He's convinced he's doing the right thing.

Why does he have sunglasses atop the cap in a domed stadium?

What's with the woman in blue behind the woman who caught the ball, cheering his theft and ball-tossing?

I'm assuming that a home run ball from a World Series game has value. Does the victim here have a case to file a police report for larceny? Should stadium security have escorted him to the door?

Should this stupid practice be left to the Wrigley bleacher bums?

HahnSolo
Oct 30 2017 05:25 PM
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I thought I read that they were related? She was pissed at him because she wanted to throw it herself. Doubtful charges get filed.

Looks like a complete tool though. I mean: Texas. Crazy eyes. Guy probably spends all his days longing for his Friday Night Lights days.

edit: Annnd, they're already insufferable

41Forever
Oct 30 2017 06:43 PM
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Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 30 2017 08:45 PM

Ewwwww.

At least he took off the sunglasses.

Fman99
Oct 30 2017 07:20 PM
Re: WS IGT The MFDs vs The Astros

You, too, can own that shirt! Head on over to doucheswizzle.com now and order!

41Forever
Oct 30 2017 09:23 PM
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[url]https://www.si.com/mlb/2017/10/29/world-series-baseballs-leather-justin-verlander-yu-darvish-ken-giles-kenley-jansen

Interesting story about the balls in the series and their alleged slickness.

And, I had no idea that Brent Strom, forever etched in my memory as being "On the way to Shea" in the Mets yearbooks of my youth, is the Astros pitching coach.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Oct 31 2017 02:22 PM
Re: WS IGT The MFDs vs The Astros

It wasn't all that long ago I noted that Brent Strom was the pitching coach of a visiting team at a Cyclones game. Never let go of your dreams!

Centerfield
Oct 31 2017 02:39 PM
Re: WS IGT The MFDs vs The Astros

I don't know. I definitely rooted for the Astros against the MFY's, and I'm grateful that they knocked them out. Was perhaps the only fun thing that happened in baseball in 2017. But now against a neutral opponent I'm finding it hard to root for them. They kinda annoy me.

Certainly don't like the Dodgers. Utley. Still pissed at Justin Turner for sucking with us and being awesome for them. Plus the fuckers ditched Granderson. WTF LA. If you're not gonna use him, I think they should have to give him back.

Just blah. I'm guess I'm grateful that we still have baseball. But man, I really wish Cleveland were playing.

Frayed Knot
Oct 31 2017 02:49 PM
Re: WS IGT The MFDs vs The Astros

Still haven't really decided how I'm rooting here except for my usual preference for a long series which, at this point, has already happened.
Instead my rooting interests tend to vary with each game, like pulling for the Astros in Game 5 because I didn't want to see the Dodgers sitting on a 3-2 lead with both remaining games at home.
Now it's Houston with a chance to close it out and Verlander serving for the win so maybe I'll find myself leaning LA's way tonight even though I'd probably be happier if the Astros eventually prevail.
And then, in order to avoid another 1:40 finish, I'm rooting for fewer mound conferences.

d'Kong76
Oct 31 2017 03:06 PM
Re: WS IGT The MFDs vs The Astros

I'm rooting for all Game 7 ticket holders to be very disappointed this evening.

Centerfield
Oct 31 2017 03:39 PM
Re: WS IGT The MFDs vs The Astros

I'm even worse. I find my rooting interests vary from batter to batter. Like the Dodgers will be rallying, then Utley comes up to bat. Or the Astros are batting, and they mention '86, or I see the old jersey in the stands and remember I hate them.

Or they show Gibson. Or mention Greinke from 2015.

Fucking Cleveland.

Benjamin Grimm
Oct 31 2017 03:51 PM
Re: WS IGT The MFDs vs The Astros

Yeah, Cleveland would have been much easier to root for. Maybe next year, as long as they're not playing the Mets.

Ceetar
Oct 31 2017 03:58 PM
Re: WS IGT The MFDs vs The Astros

I mean, Cleveland's trotting out their racist imagery.

Astro's have been my primary preference the whole time. Get an All-Time great that ring.

Centerfield
Oct 31 2017 05:16 PM
Re: WS IGT The MFDs vs The Astros

That's a good point. Hard to get righteously indignant about the Gurriel thing and not speak out about the giant offensive racist caricature that Cleveland wears on their uniforms.

WTF world. Stop doing racist shit, stop sexually assaulting women and stop molesting minors.

Frayed Knot
Nov 01 2017 02:06 AM
Re: WS IGT The MFDs vs The Astros

If the minor leaguers (3) the Astros gave in the Verlander trade go on to win 9 MVPs, this trade will still be worth it.

d'Kong76
Nov 01 2017 02:14 AM
Re: WS IGT The MFDs vs The Astros

Moving along nicely, 1-0 through 6½... should be done by midnight.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Nov 01 2017 02:27 AM
Re: WS IGT The MFDs vs The Astros

Big sac fly there.

Frayed Knot
Nov 01 2017 02:38 AM
Re: WS IGT The MFDs vs The Astros

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
Big sac fly there.

Yeah, but off the bat I thought it was going to be bigger.

Frayed Knot
Nov 01 2017 02:50 AM
Re: WS IGT The MFDs vs The Astros

How horrid would it have been if they flagged the Houston runner for taking out Utley on that slide and reversed the call?

41Forever
Nov 01 2017 03:11 AM
Re: WS IGT The MFDs vs The Astros

This is not looking good.

d'Kong76
Nov 01 2017 03:15 AM
Re: WS IGT The MFDs vs The Astros

I put the whammy on this game at the 10:14 mark.

Frayed Knot
Nov 01 2017 03:18 AM
Re: WS IGT The MFDs vs The Astros

d'Kong76 wrote:
I put the whammy on this game at the 10:14 mark.

You forgot about the fact that seventh innings are when games get the brakes slammed on.

d'Kong76
Nov 01 2017 03:24 AM
Re: WS IGT The MFDs vs The Astros

If there's a game tomorrow, I have to remember to watch en Español or
turn on closed captioning.

Frayed Knot
Nov 01 2017 03:40 AM
Re: WS IGT The MFDs vs The Astros

Not only are the Astros NOT coming back against Jansen tonight but, with only 10 pitches to get the first four outs, they're not taking him out of tomorrow's game either.

oe: Now five outs on just 15 pitches

41Forever
Nov 01 2017 03:44 AM
Re: WS IGT The MFDs vs The Astros

At least he went down swinging this time.

Mets Willets Point
Nov 01 2017 03:45 AM
Re: WS IGT The MFDs vs The Astros

First ever World Seties game 7 in Los Angeles tomorrow.

Frayed Knot
Nov 01 2017 03:46 AM
Re: WS IGT The MFDs vs The Astros

With Darvish + Kershaw + Jansen available for tomorrow, momentum definitely just shifted towards LA.

Centerfield
Nov 01 2017 02:14 PM
Re: WS IGT The MFDs vs The Astros

I'm hoping for LA to win it.

But I'm hoping that the game will be marred by that horrific collision at 1B between Chase Utley and Yuli Gurriel, where both came away with career ending cases of vaginitis.

Frayed Knot
Nov 01 2017 04:27 PM
Re: WS IGT The MFDs vs The Astros

Also Joc Pederson didn't exactly endear himself to me with his dance around the bases.
You wanna celebrate ... how 'bout at least waiting until you cross the plate?

A Boy Named Seo
Nov 01 2017 04:48 PM
Re: WS IGT The MFDs vs The Astros

Frayed Knot wrote:
Also Joc Pederson didn't exactly endear himself to me with his dance around the bases.
You wanna celebrate ... how 'bout at least waiting until you cross the plate?

Ah, man, the kid hit a homer in the World Series (3 of em!) after being kicked to the minors and left off earlier playoff rosters. He's happyyyyyy! I can't believe I'm agreeing with Bryce Harper, but #MakeBaseballFunAgain.

Fman99
Nov 02 2017 01:09 AM
Re: WS IGT The MFDs vs The Astros

Yu Darvish sucks a big fat popsicle.

Frayed Knot
Nov 02 2017 02:14 AM
Re: WS IGT The MFDs vs The Astros

A Boy Named Seo wrote:
Frayed Knot wrote:
Also Joc Pederson didn't exactly endear himself to me with his dance around the bases.
You wanna celebrate ... how 'bout at least waiting until you cross the plate?

Ah, man, the kid hit a homer in the World Series (3 of em!) after being kicked to the minors and left off earlier playoff rosters. He's happyyyyyy! I can't believe I'm agreeing with Bryce Harper, but #MakeBaseballFunAgain.

I have no problem with emotion but I thought that one went way over the top. I could have done without the full JohnnyManzell routine between 3rd & home for instance.

41Forever
Nov 02 2017 02:29 AM
Re: WS IGT The MFDs vs The Astros

I'm enjoying this one, so far.

Edgy MD
Nov 02 2017 03:33 AM
Re: WS IGT The MFDs vs The Astros

This game needs a Beltran factor.

Edgy MD
Nov 02 2017 03:44 AM
Re: WS IGT The MFDs vs The Astros

We could use a Centeno Citing also.

I don't get this let-everybody-pitch strategy. It's probably the way of the future, but it's absolutely crackers.

Edgy MD
Nov 02 2017 03:59 AM
Re: WS IGT The MFDs vs The Astros

Utley going down on strikes in the ninth. Who can't root for that?

Edgy MD
Nov 02 2017 04:00 AM
Re: WS IGT The MFDs vs The Astros

Wow, Seager ends it going after the first pitch.

41Forever
Nov 02 2017 04:03 AM
Re: WS IGT The MFDs vs The Astros

Morton seems like a good guy.

metirish
Nov 02 2017 12:24 PM
Re: WS IGT The MFDs vs The Astros

Ugh, didn't even stay up for it , Dodgers just didn't look like doing much. A lot of talk about Beltran's tears on Twitter, and how he's a sure fire HOF.

Is he?? I would imagine there are plenty of comparable players not in the HOF

MFS62
Nov 02 2017 12:31 PM
Re: WS IGT The MFDs vs The Astros

There is hope for the world.
The forces of Satan have been defeated once again.
Pandora's box remains sealed.
I'm a happy guy.
And the cherry on top is that the MVP is a local guy (New Britain, CT, where my wife was born).
Later

Frayed Knot
Nov 02 2017 12:42 PM
Re: WS IGT The MFDs vs The Astros

metirish wrote:
Ugh, didn't even stay up for it , Dodgers just didn't look like doing much.

The thing is, they were constantly on the verge of doing something but always came up 'one hit short'. 10 LOB and 1-for-13 w/RiSP
A little bit better luck with a couple of line-drives in the early innings w/runners on that wound up right at infielders (one for a DP) and that's a completely different game.

I blame Brian McCann for the game's length. Even Buck & Smoltz were making fun of his constant mound visits (sometimes several trips per batter, he must have learned it as a Yanqui) and I loved
Smoltz's comment about how "this is going to go away" in reference to Manfred's threatened pace-of-play standards. And when a pitcher is saying that mound conferences are over the top it carries
more weight.

So, the old Sports Illustrated jinx ... Maybe not so much, huh?

And thus begins 'THE VOID'. Opening Day is 17 weeks from today.

Edgy MD
Nov 02 2017 12:45 PM
Re: WS IGT The MFDs vs The Astros

Ugh, didn't even stay up for it , Dodgers just didn't look like doing much. A lot of talk about Beltran's tears on Twitter, and how he's a sure fire HOF.

Is he?? I would imagine there are plenty of comparable players not in the HOF

Say what you want about baseball reference comps, but they certainly speak well of Beltran.

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Throw in (1) defense, (2) Jones and Beltre being clearly destined for the Hall, and (3) being probably the best post-season player ever, and he's in like Early Wynn.

Lefty Specialist
Nov 02 2017 12:47 PM
Re: WS IGT The MFDs vs The Astros

Good on the Astros. They're still one behind the Mets on WS championships, though.

Didn't stay up to catch the end because, hey, gotta get up early.

d'Kong76
Nov 02 2017 01:02 PM
Re: WS IGT The MFDs vs The Astros

Congrats to 'stros! Now, what am I gonna do between now and Tabloid Cover Derby?

Benjamin Grimm
Nov 02 2017 01:06 PM
Re: WS IGT The MFDs vs The Astros

Hang in there! It's only four days away!

41Forever
Nov 02 2017 01:07 PM
Re: WS IGT The MFDs vs The Astros

Pretty good day for Carlos Correa. He earns one ring, then gives another away.

[url]https://twitter.com/BaseballBros/status/925942182644764672

Ceetar
Nov 02 2017 01:22 PM
Re: WS IGT The MFDs vs The Astros

metirish wrote:
Ugh, didn't even stay up for it , Dodgers just didn't look like doing much. A lot of talk about Beltran's tears on Twitter, and how he's a sure fire HOF.

Is he?? I would imagine there are plenty of comparable players not in the HOF

These guys I think were pretty good.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/Rosscarey/status/760990446491271168[/tweet]

Centerfield
Nov 02 2017 02:24 PM
Re: WS IGT The MFDs vs The Astros

The racist gets to celebrate again. America in 2017.

Congratulations to the 24 Astros that did not make dickhead racist gestures, and especially to our own Carlos Beltran.

41Forever
Nov 02 2017 08:22 PM
Re: WS IGT The MFDs vs The Astros

Nice moment for Beltran here:

[url]https://www.sny.tv/mets/news/carlos-beltran-sheds-tears-after-winning-world-series-with-astros/260454946

Mets Willets Point
Nov 02 2017 11:38 PM
Re: WS IGT The MFDs vs The Astros

I like thevideo on this page where they've edited in Astros fans reacting to the game at the viewing party at Minute Maid Park. I've long thought using the home ballpark for viewing parties for postseason road games was a good idea so I'm glad to see that Houston finally did it (unless some other team has done it that I'm not aware of).