Carpenters Scorebooks presents: Find Us a Manager (Group I)

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Carpenters Scorebooks presents: Find Us a Manager (Group I)

Lloyd McClendon 3 votes

Ron Roenicke 2 votes

Tony DeFrancesco (your new Las Vegas manager) 3 votes

Jim Tracy 2 votes

Lou Piniella 0 votes

Joe Torre 1 votes

Bob Schaefer 0 votes

Art Howe 0 votes

Joel Skinner 1 votes

Tom Kelly 1 votes

Cookie Rojas 4 votes

Butch Hobson 1 votes

Gene Tenace 1 votes

Red Schoendienst 5 votes

Jeff Newman 0 votes

Bobby Wine 0 votes

Ted Turner 2 votes

Eddie Kasko 0 votes

Edgy MD
Oct 08 2017 02:49 AM

You're Sandy Alderson. There's no denying it. It's the name on your door and on your desk and you pull out your wallet and check your ID. License, credit cards, USAA insurance card, it all checks out.

And if all checks out, you may as well get to work. You're making the rounds of some of your re-hires. You're of course re-signing your broadcast booth, at an honorable rate. You call Keith to square things and he's chatty.

"Keith," you say, "I've been looking at old managers."

"HARRY THE HAT!" he shouts. My first manager in pro-ball. He hated ballplayers with cars. Can you imagine that?! He resented that a few of the guys had cars!"

"Keith," you say, "I love your feel for the history of the game. I need you to help me find 17 living managers. You know, like Sandberg and Bob Boone and guys like that."

"Boone's alive?" he asks, "God you wouldn't have guessed it if you've seen him during the last few years. Lumbago, I think."

"Don't change, Keith. You stand by, I'll Fed Ex you a bunch of names of guys we're already considering, and you send me back guys you know."

"FedEx? I don't know. DSL is a lot faster and more reliable out here."

"Yeah whatever. Get it to me by tomorrow or never."

That's the way you've gotta deal with Keith. When he's excited about something, he's a dog with a new toy, and he's all over it. When he's not, he grows bored. You've gotta force quick turnaround out of the guy.

And wouldn't you know it. The next day, the DSL guy comes to the office door. You NEVER get DSL deliveries. But Keith's right. Fast and reliable.

You pour over the names before you. At the bottom it says, "Livin' the Amazin' Life, San'. — Thanks, Keith.

Good for him. Buty you've got to find four of these guys to call in for an interview before the day is out.

Mgr Age Team(s) Yrs From To W L W-L% Ties G > .500 G W Post L Post W-L% Post Best Fin Wrst Fin Av Rk Plyof App WS won Penn Won ASG Mets Connection
[fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/7/7809573b_manager.jpg[/fimg] Lloyd McClendon 59 PIT, SEA 7 2001 2015 499 607 .451 0 -108 1106 0 0 3 6 4.5 0 0 0 0 Originally signed by the Mets in 1980 and played in their system until being traded to Cincinnati as part of the Tom Seaver deal in December 1982.
[fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/1/126fd970_manager.jpg[/fimg] Ron Roenicke 61 MIL 5 2011 2015 342 331 .508 0 11 673 5 6 .455 1 5 2.8 1 0 0 0
[fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/5/57c6c998_manager.jpg[/fimg] Tony DeFrancesco 54 HOU 1 2012 2012 16 25 .390 0 -9 41 0 0 6 6 6.0 0 0 0 0 Originally from Suffern, NY. Went to Seton Hall University.
[fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/f/f26bbf77_davis.jpg[/fimg] Jim Tracy 62 LAD, PIT, COL 11 2001 2012 856 880 .493 0 -24 1736 2 6 .250 1 6 3.5 2 0 0 0
[fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/4/407dddec_davis.jpg[/fimg] Lou Piniella 74 NYY, CIN, SEA, TBR, CHC 23 1986 2010 1835 1713 .517 0 122 3548 23 27 .460 1 5 2.8 7 1 1 1
[fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/0/09351408_br.jpg[/fimg] Joe Torre 77 NYM, ATL, STL, NYY, LAD 29 1977 2010 2326 1997 .538 6 329 4329 84 58 .592 1 6 2.4 15 4 6 6 Mets player, 1975-1977; manager, 1977-1981; from Brooklyn, NY.
[fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/3/3aad9a46_manager.jpg[/fimg] Bob Schaefer 73 KCR 2 1991 2005 6 12 .333 0 -6 18 0 0 5 6 5.1 0 0 0 0
[fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/a/a70abed8_davis.jpg[/fimg] Art Howe 71 HOU, OAK, NYM 14 1989 2004 1129 1137 .498 0 -8 2266 6 9 .400 1 6 3.4 3 0 0 0 Mets manager, 2003-2004.
[fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/9/905d7dcb_davis.jpg[/fimg] Joel Skinner 57 CLE 1 2002 2002 35 41 .461 0 -6 76 0 0 3 3 3.0 0 0 0 0
[fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/9/9dc833a6_davis.jpg[/fimg] Tom Kelly 67 MIN 16 1986 2001 1140 1244 .478 1 -104 2385 16 8 .667 1 7 3.8 2 2 2 2
[fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/0/0c6cd3b5_davis.jpg[/fimg] Cookie Rojas 79 CAL, FLA 2 1988 1996 76 79 .490 0 -3 155 0 0 3 4 4.0 0 0 0 0 Mets third base and infield coach, 1997-2000.
[fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/7/76995c16_davis.jpg[/fimg] Butch Hobson 66 BOS 3 1992 1994 207 232 .472 0 -25 439 0 0 4 7 5.5 0 0 0 0
[fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/9/94bab467_davis.jpg[/fimg] Gene Tenace 74 TOR 1 1991 1991 19 14 .576 0 5 33 0 0 1 1 1.0 0 0 0 0
[fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/1/1dd15231_davis.jpg[/fimg] Red Schoendienst 95 STL 14 1965 1990 1041 955 .522 3 86 1999 7 7 .500 1 7 3.5 2 1 2 2 Played for the New York Giants.
[fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/2/25f8ec91_davis.jpg[/fimg] Jeff Newman 69 OAK 1 1986 1986 2 8 .200 0 -6 10 0 0 3 3 3.0 0 0 0 0
[fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/a/afa9d4f2_davis.jpg[/fimg] Bobby Wine 79 ATL 1 1985 1985 16 25 .390 0 -9 41 0 0 5 5 5.0 0 0 0 0 Mets bench coach, 1993-96.
[fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/0/0dbe8508_manager.jpg[/fimg] Ted Turner 79 ATL 1 1977 1977 0 1 .000 0 -1 1 0 0 6 6 6.0 0 0 0 0
[fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/9/958f12fd_davis.jpg[/fimg] Eddie Kasko 86 BOS 4 1970 1973 345 295 .539 0 50 640 0 0 2 3 2.5 0 0 0 0

Benjamin Grimm
Oct 08 2017 02:57 AM
Re: Carpenters Scorebooks presents: Find Us a Manager (Group

I had no idea that Red Schoendienst was still among us.

And Gene Tenace managed the Blue Jays?

Edgy MD
Oct 08 2017 03:02 AM
Re: Carpenters Scorebooks presents: Find Us a Manager (Group

He sort of got the hold for the 1991 Toronto Blue Jays. Mid-season, manager Cito Gaston was sidelined with a hernatied disc. Tenace came on mid-season and managed 33 games, keeping the ship sailing to the tune of a 19-14 record, before turning the team back over to Cito, who led them homeward toward their first-place finish.

Frayed Knot
Oct 08 2017 03:50 AM
Re: Carpenters Scorebooks presents: Find Us a Manager (Group

I think they should hire Bobby Wine as their manager and Cookie Rojas as the bench coach, because who wouldn't want to live through the days of Wine and Rojas?

MFS62
Oct 08 2017 12:27 PM
Re: Carpenters Scorebooks presents: Find Us a Manager (Group

Frayed Knot wrote:
I think they should hire Bobby Wine as their manager and Cookie Rojas as the bench coach, because who wouldn't want to live through the days of Wine and Rojas?

You owe me a new keyboard. Or at least another cup of coffee.
But you'll have the same reaction when you notice my Ted Turner vote.

Later

Frayed Knot
Oct 08 2017 07:46 PM
Re: Carpenters Scorebooks presents: Find Us a Manager (Group

It was hardly an original joke so at best I'll chip in a small portion towards your keyboard replacement fund.
The movie came out in 1962 just a year prior to Wine & Rojas becoming teammates with the Phillies in 1963 where they were the usual SS / 2B combo for the better part of five seasons together, so
that reference has been made a bunch of times before. McCarver used that line often.

MFS62
Oct 08 2017 08:10 PM
Re: Carpenters Scorebooks presents: Find Us a Manager (Group

I know. The flashback got me.
Totally unexpected.
Later

Lefty Specialist
Oct 09 2017 12:17 PM
Re: Carpenters Scorebooks presents: Find Us a Manager (Group

Ted Turner. And in his spare time, he could whip SNY into an efficient news-gathering organization.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Oct 09 2017 06:10 PM
Re: Carpenters Scorebooks presents: Find Us a Manager (Group

I don't believe Keith would ever get you an entire list of 17. Maybe five, scribbled on a napkin somewhere. He CERTAINLY wouldn't get around to sending it over.

Schoendienst.

d'Kong76
Oct 09 2017 06:18 PM
Re: Carpenters Scorebooks presents: Find Us a Manager (Group

Torre? SteveJ, we need a word over here...

d'Kong76
Oct 09 2017 06:22 PM
Re: Carpenters Scorebooks presents: Find Us a Manager (Group

Schoendienst for me, he would make a good song parody subject.

Edgy MD
Oct 09 2017 09:23 PM
Re: Carpenters Scorebooks presents: Find Us a Manager (Group

We need to break open this field.

Red Schoendienst: 3
Lloyd McClendon: 2
Ron Roenicke: 2
Tony DeFrancesco: 2
Jim Tracy: 2
Cookie Rojas: 2
Ted Turner: 2
Joe Torre: 1
Joel Skinner: 1
Tom Kelly: 1