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Let's Write an Operetta About Jake Arrieta

Edgy MD Nov 09 2017 08:58 PM

Jake Arrieta: marginal starter for the Orioles, grows one of those beards the kids all have nowadays, and becomes a terrifying demon for the Cubs. A Silver Slugger winner in 2016 too, although that wasn't a particularly representative season. Doesn't like to conceal his guns, either. Should Arrieta be a Met-a?

Frayed Knot Nov 09 2017 09:04 PM Re: Let's Write an Operetta About Jake Arrieta Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 09 2017 09:05 PM

Edgy MD wrote: Doesn't like to conceal his guns, either. Is reportedly an extremely disciplined fitness/nutrition freak - so he's got that going for him. Was mysteriously shaky early in 2017 and, while he'll likely never repeat his monster CY season, it was encouraging the way he bounced back in the second half of the season.

Benjamin Grimm Nov 09 2017 09:05 PM Re: Let's Write an Operetta About Jake Arrieta

Turns 32 during spring training. Only pitched 168 innings in 2017. 197 innings in 2016 and 229 in 2015.

Vic Sage Nov 09 2017 09:36 PM Re: Let's Write an Operetta About Jake Arrieta

he'll be a class overpay situation; I wouldn't touch him.

Lefty Specialist Nov 10 2017 06:29 PM Re: Let's Write an Operetta About Jake Arrieta

Arietta is a 'Nyet'-a.

Edgy MD Nov 10 2017 06:45 PM Re: Let's Write an Operetta About Jake Arrieta

Frayed Knot wrote: Is reportedly an extremely disciplined fitness/nutrition freak - so he's got that going for him. Fun! Maybe we can pay him a few extra $$ to pull some overtime and take over for Mike Barwis. [fimg=350]http://mlb.mlb.com/assets/images/8/1/2/147218812/cuts/0903Spox3_usmndfrk_nfol2xah.jpg[/fimg] [fimg=350]https://cdn-s3.si.com/s3fs-public/2016/03/28/jake-arrieta-beck2.jpg[/fimg] [fimg=350]http://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/sites/csnchicago/files/styles/article_hero_image/public/2016/04/12/jake-arrieta-hunt-for-october-10-03-15.png?itok=IM5tHO-3[/fimg] [fimg=350]http://upl.stack.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Why-Jake-Arrietas-Lower-Body-Strength-Is-the-Key-to-His-Success-STACK.png[/fimg] [fimg=280]https://guysgirl.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/jessica-mendoza-jake-arrieta-pilates-.png[/fimg] [fimg=420]http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2016/0705/r99833_1296x729_16-9.jpg[/fimg]

Benjamin Grimm Nov 10 2017 06:49 PM Re: Let's Write an Operetta About Jake Arrieta

Jake Arrieta... and his mound!

smg58 Nov 10 2017 08:49 PM Re: Let's Write an Operetta About Jake Arrieta

The concern is that you'll have to pay for 2015 in order to sign him, but you'll get something less. Of course, if you DO get 2015, you have the best pitcher in baseball. You have to make a realistic assessment of whether that kind of form is still in him. I'm leaning towards no, but I'm glad more knowledgeable people than I are making the decision.

Benjamin Grimm Nov 10 2017 08:50 PM Re: Let's Write an Operetta About Jake Arrieta

It depends on the years and the dollars, of course. He would definitely help the 2018 Mets, but I do think that he'd come at too high a cost.

Centerfield Nov 10 2017 10:48 PM Re: Let's Write an Operetta About Jake Arrieta

I remember how ecstatic I was when Murphy went deep on him in Game 2. It would be odd, if we signed him, to root for exactly the opposite in 2018.

Frayed Knot Nov 10 2017 11:33 PM Re: Let's Write an Operetta About Jake Arrieta

For those who agree that the team needs pitching help from outside but don't want Jake Arrieta, then who do you want? OK there's Otani who, by condition of his availability is young and cheap and (presumably) good and requires only a short-term commitment. But, if Body by Jake here doesn't fit your conditions, who are examples of one which do?

Centerfield Nov 13 2017 04:29 PM Re: Let's Write an Operetta About Jake Arrieta

I'm a little surprised by the lack of interest in Arrieta as well. Same age as Darvish, and has been better up until 2017. Did he lose some of his stuff? From 2014 to 2016 he was really good.

TransMonk Nov 13 2017 04:35 PM Re: Let's Write an Operetta About Jake Arrieta

Arrieta would be my main SP target.

Ceetar Nov 13 2017 04:42 PM Re: Let's Write an Operetta About Jake Arrieta

For me it's that Darvish has basically 'always' been good whereas Arrieta was sorta meh for a while and then surged, so it's easy to believe the surge was the abnormality and he's reverted to meh again. And 2017 is most recent too.

Edgy MD Nov 13 2017 04:50 PM Re: Let's Write an Operetta About Jake Arrieta

Yeah, but those summations of his performances are sort of condensed. He wasn't meh in the first phase of his career with Baltimore, he was lousy. He was playing-his-way-out-of-the-majors bad. And last season, he didn't revert to meh. He was merely very good. As opposed to the great he had been. But that "merely very good" even, was a product of a crappy first nine or 10 weeks, and then an excellent 15 or 16 weeks to finish. If he's trending, it can be argued, he's trending up, at least from one perspective.

Ceetar Nov 13 2017 05:04 PM Re: Let's Write an Operetta About Jake Arrieta

well, his last three starts weren't great and he walked roughly everyone he faced in the playoffs. Steamer projects him for 4.20 ERA and a 2.8 fWAR