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Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

batmagadanleadoff
Nov 28 2017 03:18 PM

Rick Wilson: Sanders knows she’s lying, but does it anyway

excerpt:

GOP strategist Rick Wilson, an opponent of Donald Trump who frequently criticizes the president, said White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders knows she is lying, but continues to do it.

“Her job is contingent upon her being a serial congenital liar in defense of Donald Trump’s latest outrages,” Wilson said during an appearance on CNN.

“I mean, she probably has some like tiny, shriveled husk left in her soul where she realizes this is the wrong thing to do. But she does it anyway because otherwise they’ll replace her."

Wilson ... said ... that few presidents go out and "crap on the dignity and legacy of people like these code talkers...and then send their press secretary out to answer questions in a way that isn't saying, 'Wow the president regrets what he said today, he made a mistake.'"

"Instead, [Sanders] goes out and she tries to bury people in an avalanche of horse shit everyday, because this is her job," he said....

Wilson said he understands it is Huckabee Sanders job to defend the president.

But, he added, there have been few other cases where the White House press secretary has had to defend "somebody is slinging stuff that is demonstrably racially charged."


http://thehill.com/homenews/news/362089 ... -it-anyway

Ceetar
Nov 28 2017 03:30 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

no one _made_ her lie about baking a chocolate pecan pie and then tweeting a stock image of one.

Centerfield
Nov 28 2017 04:30 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

What does it matter. Eventually her term will end and she'll be yucking it up with the late night hosts and all will be forgiven.

Disgusting.

"Ha ha ha, remember when I spouted racist propoganda? OMG that was so funny! LOL."

41Forever
Nov 28 2017 04:42 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

Should this be moved to the politics thread?

batmagadanleadoff
Nov 28 2017 04:48 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

41Forever wrote:
Should this be moved to the politics thread?


Oh great. The Sarah Huckabee of Michigan chimes in. No! It's a thread specifically dedicated to Sarah Huckabee, the central figure of this thread. Sarah Huckabee gets her own thread. Maybe you can appoint an Emergency Manager to run this forum according to your whims. Then you can bury this thread wherever you'd like, despite the rules and the will of the people. You'd like that, wouldn't you? You like Sarah Huckabee too, don't you? And I'm a misogynist because I made fun of this serial bullshit tossing press secretary.

41Forever
Nov 28 2017 04:54 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 28 2017 05:06 PM

batmagadanleadoff wrote:
41Forever wrote:
Should this be moved to the politics thread?


Oh great. The Sarah Huckabee of Michigan chimes in. No! It's a thread specifically dedicated to Sarah Huckabee, the central figure of this thread. Sarah Huckabee gets her own thread. Maybe you can appoint an Emergency Manager to run this forum according to your whims. Then you can bury this thread wherever you'd like, despite the rules and the will of the people. You'd like that, wouldn't you? You like Sarah Huckabee too, don't you? And I'm a misogynist because I made fun of this serial bullshit tossing press secretary.


Should personal attacks be moved to the Red Light Forum?

batmagadanleadoff
Nov 28 2017 04:57 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 28 2017 05:05 PM

41Forever wrote:
41Forever wrote:
Should this be moved to the politics thread?


Oh great. The Sarah Huckabee of Michigan chimes in. No! It's a thread specifically dedicated to Sarah Huckabee, the central figure of this thread. Sarah Huckabee gets her own thread. Maybe you can appoint an Emergency Manager to run this forum according to your whims. Then you can bury this thread wherever you'd like, despite the rules and the will of the people. You'd like that, wouldn't you? You like Sarah Huckabee too, don't you? And I'm a misogynist because I made fun of this serial bullshit tossing press secretary.


Shout personal attacks be moved to the Red Light Forum?


Like your post about moving this thread wasn't really a personal attack against me disguised as something else. Like you would've written your post if anybody else started this thread. Did you really think this thread ought to have been moved? That was a ridiculous, moronic request if that's all it was. All this to essentially kill this thread by burying it, because press secretaries stick together. Well, you know the old saying: "everything's gotta die of something". Or something like that.

Ceetar
Nov 28 2017 05:04 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

Another recent garbage move, she 'asked' that every reporter say what they were thankful for last week before asking a question. Most of the press bought in, rather than pushing it. That's not what the time is meant for, and she's supposed to be answering questions, not asking them, nor making the reporters fill up time that could be spent asking valuable questions with reflection.

batmagadanleadoff
Nov 28 2017 05:07 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

Ceetar wrote:
Another recent garbage move, she 'asked' that every reporter say what they were thankful for last week before asking a question. Most of the press bought in, rather than pushing it. That's not what the time is meant for, and she's supposed to be answering questions, not asking them, nor making the reporters fill up time that could be spent asking valuable questions with reflection.


I wrote about that in the (lol) Politics thread last week. I linked to a terrific piece in The New Yorker about that. Maybe we should (lol) move the Politics thread to this Huckabee thread. Let's run it by 41F, first.

batmagadanleadoff
Nov 28 2017 05:11 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

Here you go Ceets. Because as things are developing here, this post now belongs in the Sarah Huckabee thread. The Sarah Huckabee thread rules!
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I'd be thankful that Sarah Huckabee didn't ask me to lick her vagina. God knows what kind of rank odors are swirling around down there. This latest disgrace and new low to the office of Press Secretary is even uglier on the inside than she is on the outside.

This must read story is more than a day old, but I only found out about it late last night. Here it is:

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The Degrading Ritual of Sarah Huckabee Sanders’s Pre-Thanksgiving Press Briefing

By Masha Gessen

November 21, 2017

The President of the United States is a bully who makes a mockery of his office, democratic institutions, and the English language. So is his press secretary. On Monday, during the last briefing before the Thanksgiving holiday, Sarah Huckabee Sanders treated the White House press pool the way a sadistic teen-ager would treat a group of third graders. The journalists, for the most part, went along with it.

Sanders began her part of the briefing by saying that she was thankful for all the reporters in the room. “That goes without saying,” she added, in a tone that made it clear that the White House press secretary really does not like the White House press corps. There was slight, uncomfortable laughter in the room. Then Sanders listed the people and things for which she was actually grateful: her family, her faith, the military, the police, the firemen, and the first responders.

Unpleasant as her opening comment might have sounded, it’s all right for the press secretary to have an adversarial relationship with reporters; it is certainly better than a cozy relationship. But coziness seemed to be what Sanders was trying to elicit next. “If you want to ask a question, I think it’s only fair, since I’ve shared what I’m thankful for, that you start off with what you’re thankful for,” she said.

It is the job of reporters to ask questions, and it is Sanders’s job to answer them. That was why they were all gathered there: to do their jobs of asking and answering. Of course, this is merely a matter of convention; there is no law or rule to prevent Sanders from rejecting questions or from setting conditions for their asking. One might assume that the reporters in the room have the power, given that they serve as the informal representatives of the voting public. But this is not how this Administration interprets the relationship, and Sanders was reminding the press corps that she has the power to respond to their questions or not.

“Anybody want to be first on what they are thankful for?” Sanders asked. Her tone was menacing, the tone of a bully asking for a volunteer to be humiliated in front of the room. She called on April Ryan, of American Urban Radio Networks. Ryan was one of the few African-American reporters in the room, and her questions have clearly annoyed Sanders in the past. Ryan had tried, unsuccessfully, to ask a question during an earlier part of the briefing, when Secretary of State Rex Tillerson spoke about North Korea.

“April, you’ve been sooo eager,” Sanders said. There was laughter. There is always laughter when bullies mock their marks.

“I’m thankful for life,” Ryan said, going along with the rule proposed by Sanders. “I’m thankful for my children. I’m thankful for twenty years in this job. I’m thankful to be able to talk to you and question you every single day.” Ryan ended on a big, insincere smile.

“I feel the gratefulness here,” Sanders responded, with her own angry smile. There was a smattering of laughter.

As a person responding to a bully, Ryan had held her own: she had complied with the terms dictated, but she had not let herself be humiliated. But as a reporter in the White House briefing room, she had just been co-opted into a transparently hypocritical ritual. She was no longer an observer of the Trump Administration’s habit of lying; she had become complicit. She had also participated in the ritual of denigrating her profession. Ryan’s question was about North Korea and the apparent lack of reliable information on that country’s nuclear arsenal. But she had helped Sanders make that seem unimportant, compared with the petty power struggle in the room. When Ryan tried to ask a follow-up question about Trump’s continued Twitter war with North Korea, Sanders said, “April, I’m starting to regret calling on you first.” Then she moved on to the next question.

The next reporter, Francesca Chambers, of the Daily Mail, responded enthusiastically. “I will follow your lead,” she said, and expressed thanks for service members and the police, noting that her brother is a service member and her father a policeman. She asked an easily deflected question about the Alabama senatorial race.

Jon Decker, of Fox News, was thankful for his health, his family, his faith, and the fact that he lives “in the best country on the face of the Earth.”

“See, isn’t this nice?” Sanders asked.

“And I’m thankful, of course, that you address us every day here,” Decker continued. He asked if the President would be happy to see Roy Moore win in Alabama. Sanders avoided answering this question.

Blake Burman, of Fox Business Network, was thankful for his family, his parents, and his wife, who is pregnant with the couple’s second child. Cecilia Vega, of ABC News, was grateful for the First Amendment. Steven Herman, of Voice of America, was grateful for surviving the President’s Asia tour. Sarah Westwood, of the Washington Examiner, neglected to offer thanks. Instead, she asked two questions: Had the President talked to the senatorial candidate Roy Moore since allegations that he had sexually abused several young women first surfaced, on November 9th? Sanders said that he had not. What had the President meant, earlier that day, when he said that welfare reform was “desperately needed in this country”? Sanders answered that specifics would be forthcoming—her way of saying that it was anybody’s guess what Trump had meant.

Zeke Miller, from the Associated Press, launched straight into a question as well, asking about the lack of diversity among Trump’s judicial nominees. Sanders called him out, though: “You did break the rule,” she said, demonstrating that power grows if the rules are enforced selectively. Miller quickly said that he was grateful for everything, and pressed on with the question, which Sanders, again, deflected. Margaret Brennan, of CBS News, was thankful for the First Amendment, “and for this exercise.” Kristin Fisher, from Fox News, filling in for John Roberts, was grateful for the opportunity to attend the briefing, and for the fact that she had only one month to go until her pregnancy was over. She happened to have a relevant question: it concerned gratitude. The President had used the word “ungrateful” to describe the three U.C.L.A. freshmen who returned home after being detained in China on suspicion of shoplifting. Sanders deflected this question, but then Matthew Nussbaum, of Politico, asked why the President had tweeted that he “should have left them in jail.”

“Look, it was a rhetorical response,” Sanders said, asserting, in effect, that the President’s words have no meaning.

Finally, John Gizzi, of Newsmax, was thankful “for the position I have and the colleagues who are my friends. I’m thankful for my father, ninety-six years old and going strong, and to my wife, my heroine, thankful to her for saying yes on the fourth request.” There was laughter. “My question is about Zimbabwe.” Much more laughter.

“That’s the best pivot I’ve ever seen,” Sanders said, as though questions about actual coups in actual countries, and the actual American position on them, were extraneous to the White House briefing. “I don’t have any announcements on our relationship with Zimbabwe at this time, but certainly we’ll make sure and keep you guys posted,” she said. “Again, want to wish everybody a happy Thanksgiving and thank you for participating in this very fun exercise.”

And it was over. The exercise had established that the White House press pool consists primarily of straight, pious white men. The press secretary had enlisted the reporters’ help in mocking the purpose of the briefing; no information was conveyed from the White House to the public. She had shown who was boss: she could hold journalists to an arbitrary rule by making them offer thanks before asking a question, which diminished the journalists’ ability to hold her to the task of answering their questions. She reaffirmed that both the President and she herself lie easily and blatantly—as he did when he issued a “rhetorical response” on the U.C.L.A. students, and as she did at the beginning of the briefing, when she claimed to be thankful for the reporters in the room. By making them laugh when she said that, and when she mocked April Ryan, and when she called the forced ritual a “fun exercise,” she gave them a role in debasing their profession and the job of reporting on the White House. This is how it happens: the matter was trivial, the whole spectacle lasted all of sixteen minutes, and we were all the worse for it.

Masha Gessen, a staff writer, has written several books, including, most recently, “The Future Is History: How Totalitarianism Reclaimed Russia,” which won the National Book


https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-colu ... s-briefing

Ceetar
Nov 28 2017 05:12 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

the Politics thread is a billion pages long and Trump has done like a million illegal and racist things since then. I guess I forgot.

batmagadanleadoff
Nov 28 2017 05:13 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

Ceetar wrote:
the Politics thread is a billion pages long and Trump has done like a million illegal and racist things since then. I guess I forgot.


See the post above your last one.

Fman99
Nov 28 2017 05:29 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

She's a big idiot.

Batmags, also, you are one belligerent fucking repeating record. I think the Republicans are all soulless bastards too, but your personal vitriol towards other CPF posters is more tired than a Presidential tirade.

batmagadanleadoff
Nov 28 2017 05:36 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

Fman99 wrote:
She's a big idiot.

Batmags, also, you are one belligerent fucking repeating record. I think the Republicans are all soulless bastards too, but your personal vitriol towards other CPF posters is more tired than a Presidential tirade.


Just like your stupid, tired tit jokes. What balls on that 41F to call me a misogynist but not you, in light of the totality of your posting history. This reminds me of the time that Ashie teed off on me for like half a dozen or so posts stretched out over half a week -- posts that I ignored. But when I finally did respond, in jumps 41F to tell me to cool it, or back off or something like that. I wonder if 41F'll butt in here and ask that your post be red-lit because you used the "f" word? I doubt it. That's only for when I do it.

Fman99
Nov 28 2017 07:27 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

batmagadanleadoff wrote:
Fman99 wrote:
She's a big idiot.

Batmags, also, you are one belligerent fucking repeating record. I think the Republicans are all soulless bastards too, but your personal vitriol towards other CPF posters is more tired than a Presidential tirade.


Just like your stupid, tired tit jokes. What balls on that 41F to call me a misogynist but not you, in light of the totality of your posting history. This reminds me of the time that Ashie teed off on me for like half a dozen or so posts stretched out over half a week -- posts that I ignored. But when I finally did respond, in jumps 41F to tell me to cool it, or back off or something like that. I wonder if 41F'll butt in here and ask that your post be red-lit because you used the "f" word? I doubt it. That's only for when I do it.


They're not all tit jokes. Some of them are about butts, balls, and dicks. Pay attention!

I have the decency to be entertaining. You, on the other hand, are just a white noise generator.

I think anyone who's a Republican and also loves our country should be embarrassed at the President. I think also that the fact that 3/4 of the party still approves of his performance just means that they're selling out their own moral center for the advancing of their agenda. I don't like any of it, not one bit.

But I also don't use it as a pedestal to attack people here. I've got other things to do. Like making jokes about tits!

As for being a misogynyst, that's ill applied to me. I make jokes about women because I love women. There's no hate there. You should consult your dictionary or thesaurus and get back to me.

Fman99
Nov 28 2017 07:31 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

You can reply, if you like, but I've blocked you, so I won't see it anyway. Because you're just the dullest thing going.

batmagadanleadoff
Nov 28 2017 07:47 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

Fman99 wrote:


But I also don't use it as a pedestal to attack people here. I've got other things to do. Like making jokes about tits!



I only personally attack posters who've personally attacked me first. If you don't see that, you're in denial and you choose to see what you want to see and don't want to see. Not surprised that you never stuck up for me when I was personally attacked but you feel the need to involve yourself only when I respond in kind. There's a terrible double standard here and I've been at the point now here for a while where I truly couldn't give a flying fuck about what anyone thinks about my posts anymore.

Benjamin Grimm
Nov 28 2017 07:56 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

batmagadanleadoff wrote:
There's a terrible double standard here and I've been at the point now here for a while where I truly couldn't give a flying fuck about what anyone thinks about my posts anymore.


Does this mean you'll stop all the whining?

batmagadanleadoff
Nov 28 2017 07:59 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

Fman99 wrote:
You can reply, if you like, but I've blocked you, so I won't see it anyway. Because you're just the dullest thing going.


Like I give a shit. You're the one person on this forum, I usually go out of my way not to engage with. I never address anything you write except, occasionally, when you attack me, which you often do. And even then, I usually ignore them because I want nothing to do with you. I don't even wanna disagree with you, I find you so distasteful. You've been up my ass pretty much since I joined this forum. Not so much in quantity, like Kong who's been relentlessly busting my balls from day one. No, not so much in quantity. But in quality. You've probably written some of the meanest things anyone's ever written to me, or anyone else here. Not that I lost sleep over those posts, but I haven't forgotten them. I avoid you like the plague. Your jokes are stupid, monotonous and tiring and you have nothing interesting or worthwhile or original to say about anything, as far as I'm concerned. If you're not reading my posts, I'm happy. Good.

d'Kong76
Nov 28 2017 08:04 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

batmagadanleadoff wrote:
Not so much in quantity, like Kong who's been relentlessly busting my balls from day one.

You've been exponentially exaggerating this since day one too. You know it,
the forum knows it, Huckabee's allegedly smelly vagina knows it!!

cooby
Nov 28 2017 08:05 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

Lolololol

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Nov 28 2017 10:26 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

guys I think this forum is becoming a mess because of the fighting and some of it is way too personal and larded with history, and at the risk of becoming everyone's enemy can we please be sensitive that there's at least one user here who feels as though the rules have been applied unfairly, and said as much often and evidently hasn't felt as though that message has gotten through; and that there's different posters here who'd like to debate polytics and other stuff without it being mean-spirited and personal about the *poster* if not the material.

Ashie62
Nov 28 2017 10:32 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

Nothing lasts forever sadly.

d'Kong76
Nov 28 2017 10:34 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

I've buried the hatchet a dozen times.
Maybe I'll just take the rest of the year off.
Batmags wins. Again.

Ashie62
Nov 28 2017 10:36 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

This kinda reminds me of "the burn book" in the movie Mean Girls.

We are losing members.

Lefty Specialist
Nov 28 2017 11:50 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

Ay caramba. I enjoy discussing politics. But I really hate the personal stuff. I can be snarky at times, but I mean no ill will to anyone here. It is possible to have a reasoned argument without attacking someone.

Unless any of you is The Donald. Then all bets are off.

As for Sarah, she's doing a job. It's harder than the press secretary's job should be because she has to shovel Trump's shit every day. If she didn't do it someone else would. I have no position on her bodily odors.

batmagadanleadoff
Nov 29 2017 01:13 AM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

This doesn't do anything for me, if it even is supposed to. I hate the personal attacks just like everyone else here. But personal attacks don't seem to be much of a problem for anyone here so long as I'm on the receiving end. It's only when I give it back that the whole forum goes up in arms. 90% liberals, at least, on the political threads but I'm the only one singled out for personal attacks for political views. No one stuck up for me when I was called a hamburger flipper or a religious bigot or a misogynist or someone not worthy of engaging because I took the outrageous position of dissing Betsy Devos. The shit only hits the fan when I respond. Not that I need anyone to fight my battles but youse sure do like to jump in when I give it back. And then youse conveninetly leave out the part that I'm giving it back. Then, youse get amnesia about what started it all.


These responses are bullshit and Nomar is all twisted up in pretzels, wanting to weigh in, but locked into his bullshit story about him ignoring my posts.

What's the over/under on Grimm reminding me that Nomar really is ignoring me? I say 100 minutes. What side do you bet on. Maybe the over since it's night-time now.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Nov 29 2017 05:28 AM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

Okay, how about if I call what you write "misogynist" and "whiny" and "knee-jerk ad hominem?"

I mean, if there's one guy who thinks you're an asshole, maybe-- maybe-- he's the asshole. But when it's five, or seven, or nine... and they all more or less agree with the actual point you're trying to make... well, it may be time to revisit your style/blinders, no?

metsmarathon
Nov 29 2017 06:09 AM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

I try really hard to ignore all the grade school bullshit.

It’s getting really hard to ignore it.

I couldn’t tell you the last time anyone said shit about me (I’m probably just too banal to elicit a strong negative response)

But seriously, if I did engender such a reaction, I ignore it. Or forget it. I’ve got a limited attention span and I prefer to spend it on actual 3-year olds.

Come to think of it, I’m sure I had people say mean things at me back on the mofo. Maybe I was just more interesting in my youth.

Regardless, if there’s a fued brewing, or just bubbling up to the fore, maybe instead of either side digging down deeper into the muck and mire, rise up above the petty bullshit. It gets in the way of whatever point you’re trying to make.

Unless the only point that’s being made is that feuds are a tedious bore. In which case, please. Carry on.

Centerfield
Nov 29 2017 10:05 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

Not that my opinion matters, but I'd love it if the feuding parties could hit reset on everything here. I don't know enough to know what the genesis of the problem is, but largely this board is populated by good people, and it's silly to hold these personal vendettas against good people.

I do fully understand the frustration of being painted as the aggressor because of a crass speaking (or writing) manner. Usually it's me that ends up swearing too much or yelling, or just taking things too far. But it's important to understand that sometimes the most offensive ones are the soft-spoken, gentle speaking douchebags who are passively aggressive. It's fucking infuriating. And sometimes third parties can't see that unless you take the time to really look. So I do get that.

But at the same time, even if you are provoked, it's on you if you take it too far. And when I eventually calm down, I realize that I've been a dickhead too. So maybe we can all take some blame and start over.

I hope that this post makes some sense.

Of course, none of this should excuse soulless garbage waste of space completely devoid of morals cocksuckers who let political allegiances and agendas replace basic human decency. Ones who can't agree that pedophilia, racism, and sexual harrassment are inexcusable. Those dickheads should be called out for what
they are.

On Edit: Just read my post again. I am certainly not implying that anyone here provoked anyone by being a soft spoken, passive aggressive douchebag. I hope no one took it that way. I'm just speaking in general, that sometimes the guy that's yelling and swearing may not be the aggressor.

41Forever
Nov 30 2017 02:38 AM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Nov 30 2017 01:25 PM

Centerfield wrote:
Not that my opinion matters, but I'd love it if the feuding parties could hit reset on everything here. I don't know enough to know what the genesis of the problem is, but largely this board is populated by good people, and it's silly to hold these personal vendettas against good people.

I do fully understand the frustration of being painted as the aggressor because of a crass speaking (or writing) manner. Usually it's me that ends up swearing too much or yelling, or just taking things too far. But it's important to understand that sometimes the most offensive ones are the soft-spoken, gentle speaking douchebags who are passively aggressive. It's fucking infuriating. And sometimes third parties can't see that unless you take the time to really look. So I do get that.

But at the same time, even if you are provoked, it's on you if you take it too far. And when I eventually calm down, I realize that I've been a dickhead too. So maybe we can all take some blame and start over.

I hope that this post makes some sense.

Of course, none of this should excuse soulless garbage waste of space completely devoid of morals cocksuckers who let political allegiances and agendas replace basic human decency. Ones who can't agree that pedophilia, racism, and sexual harrassment are inexcusable. Those dickheads should be called out for what
they are.

On Edit: Just read my post again. I am certainly not implying that anyone here provoked anyone by being a soft spoken, passive aggressive douchebag. I hope no one took it that way. I'm just speaking in general, that sometimes the guy that's yelling and swearing may not be the aggressor.


But people who engage in deeply personal attacks and daily antagonism are aggressors.

Just my 2 cents, but I think the forum is at a bit of a crossroads. Ashie is right. There are fewer people posting. Reading some of the archived threads posted recently, I was struck by the number people who don't post any more.

That might be because the Mets had a crappy season. But it also might be because the attacks aren't just confined to the politics thread, but now have spread across the non-baseball forum and even into the baseball threads.

I think people are sick of it. They're sick of hearing it in the office, they're sick of it filling their Facebook threads and they can't escape it even when they come here.

I can't speak for anyone but myself, but I like to poke in here throughout the day when I need a little break from all the stressful stuff going on at work. Not too long ago, I think when I realized I'd been here 10 years, I posted about how much the people in this forum meant to me, how it was a special place and how it kept me close to my team even though I live far from New York. It was a fun place to talk about baseball, our kids, obscure 1980s synth bands, and, on a good day, the Ramones.

And today, after wading through the now-daily baiting and personal attacks and toxicity, I asked myself why I was reading the forum. It wasn't relieving stress, it was adding to it. There must be other places where people talk about the Mets without a small number of people destroying it for everyone else.

If we could even limit the toxicity to one thread -- heck, call it the "I hate the president" thread -- and make it easy for everyone else to avoid it, it would be an improvement. Then we could also have a place for good discussions without the hate speech, bigotry, misogyny, and smears.

If I'm alone in feeling this way, so be it. But I don't think I am.

Fman99
Nov 30 2017 03:21 AM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

Yeah, I am guilty of adding to the negativity of late. Even if I'm responding to someone else doing it, I'm surely adding to something that doesn't really require any more fuel.

cooby
Nov 30 2017 10:42 AM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

I wish we could all sit down for a face to face. Some of us live too far off though, as 41 says.

d'Kong76
Nov 30 2017 12:30 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

My face has been spit on so many times, my ass reamed with utter nastiness and
total disrespect, and piles of shit rammed down my throat here that perhaps I have
just become numb to it all. Going forward, I will try to not engage in (and try to
better ignore) any further uncivil behavior.

cooby
Nov 30 2017 01:12 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

On your side KC :)

Lefty Specialist
Nov 30 2017 02:01 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

You know, all this personal stuff is blinding us to the larger threat- Sarah Huckabee Sanders' assault on the truth itself.

Washington (CNN)On Wednesday morning, President Donald Trump retweeted three videos purportedly showing Muslims committing acts of violence against Christians. He did so despite the fact that the videos came from a far-right, anti-Muslim group in Britain and remain unverified.

Which is all beside the point, according to White House press secretary Sarah Sanders.

"Whether it is a real video, the threat is real," Sanders told reporters Wednesday morning. "That is what the President is talking about, that is what the President is focused on is dealing with those real threats, and those are real no matter how you look at it."

When pressed on the difference between the videos being real or fake, Sanders replied, "I'm not talking about the nature of the video. I think you're focusing on the wrong thing. The threat is real, and that's what the President is talking about."

Yes. She really said that. The official spokesperson for the White House said that whether or not videos depicting violence committed by Muslims are actually real is beside the point. And that by focusing on whether the videos are real, reporters are "focusing on the wrong things."

Here's Sanders' argument in simpler terms: The end justifies the means. We know that Muslims commit acts of violence and hate the West. So, whether or not the actions depicted in these videos are real doesn't actually matter. They are a symbol of something that is real.

Which is, of course, a) ridiculous and b) dangerous.

It's controversial enough for Trump to use his bully pulpit -- and his massive Twitter following -- to pass around videos that seek to paint an entire religion with a broad, negative brush. "These are people who want to get you and we need to get them first!" is the unmistakable message Trump is sending by passing on videos like these.

To do so when no one knows whether or not the videos have been edited, doctored or faked entirely is beyond the pale. This is classic leap-before-you-look-ism. It's not great in any circumstance. It's even worse when it's the President of the United States seeking to use the videos to prove a point about the threat posed by radical Islamic terrorists.

But -- and I didn't even think this was possible -- Sanders actually made what Trump did worse! The veracity of the videos doesn't matter, she argued. The point is how the videos make people feel!

(Sidebar: Sanders' response reminds me of the scene in "Blades of Glory" when Will Ferrell and Jon Heder are debating what song they should skate to. Ferrell demands it be "My Humps" by the Black Eyed Peas. Heder's character balks, arguing that he doesn't even understand what the song means. "No one knows what it means, but it's provocative," responds Ferrell's character.)

In an administration made famous/infamous by "alternative facts" and a near-daily assault on truth, Sanders' assertion fits right in. Trump has made clear -- on more than 1,600 occasions since being sworn in as President -- that facts are to be ignored when they don't fit your preferred narrative.

None of what Sanders said, then, should be surprising. And yet, her brazenness in asserting that fake and real is a meaningless distinction is stunning. Truly.

d'Kong76
Nov 30 2017 02:11 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

Sorry, I was focused on some of the other things in the thread and not on the
allegedly unhygienic Huckster. Maybe we can parse some of the non-Sarah stuff
into another thread or something.

41Forever
Nov 30 2017 02:30 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

d'Kong76 wrote:
Sorry, I was focused on some of the other things in the thread and not on the
allegedly unhygienic Huckster. Maybe we can parse some of the non-Sarah stuff
into another thread or something.


I created a new thread.

Nymr83
Nov 30 2017 02:51 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

d'Kong76 wrote:
Sorry, I was focused on some of the other things in the thread and not on the
allegedly unhygienic Huckster. Maybe we can parse some of the non-Sarah stuff
into another thread or something.


Maybe if people focussed on the bad things she allegedly does instead of calling her names (that would get you burned at the stake for calling a liberal woman) we would be focusswd on those things she does.

Ceetar
Nov 30 2017 02:55 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

Nymr83 wrote:
d'Kong76 wrote:
Sorry, I was focused on some of the other things in the thread and not on the
allegedly unhygienic Huckster. Maybe we can parse some of the non-Sarah stuff
into another thread or something.


Maybe if people focussed on the bad things she allegedly does instead of calling her names (that would get you burned at the stake for calling a liberal woman) we would be focusswd on those things she does.


well, drop the allegedly. And drop the impression of a double standard, it's not like horrible things haven't been said about 'liberals' too.

Nymr83
Nov 30 2017 03:05 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

Its not an impression, its a reality. I have never called Hillary a c***, questioned the smell of her body parts, or called for her beheading. All of these things have been said about Huckabee, Ivanka, or Davos on this board recently.

The sooner you recognize this and distance yourself from the offenders the sooner we can discuss things that really matter.

Ceetar
Nov 30 2017 03:15 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

Hillary also hasn't tried to sell our education or destroy the press. These are bad people doing bad things and I don't really care what words we use to describe them as long as that's not the actual argument, which it hasn't been.

Let's not let colorful language distract from the point, that she's attacking and undermining the press and the truth.

batmagadanleadoff
Nov 30 2017 03:21 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

Nymr83 wrote:
Its not an impression, its a reality. I have never called Hillary a c***, questioned the smell of her body parts, or called for her beheading. All of these things have been said about Huckabee, Ivanka, or Davos on this board recently.

The sooner you recognize this and distance yourself from the offenders the sooner we can discuss things that really matter.


I wonder whose posts you've been not reading to get that info, you bullshit artist.

Ceetar
Nov 30 2017 03:23 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

batmagadanleadoff wrote:
Nymr83 wrote:
Its not an impression, its a reality. I have never called Hillary a c***, questioned the smell of her body parts, or called for her beheading. All of these things have been said about Huckabee, Ivanka, or Davos on this board recently.

The sooner you recognize this and distance yourself from the offenders the sooner we can discuss things that really matter.


I wonder whose posts you've been not reading to get that info, you bullshit artist.


other thread. this one's for the press secretary's idiocy.

batmagadanleadoff
Nov 30 2017 03:28 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

Ceetar wrote:
no one _made_ her lie about baking a chocolate pecan pie and then tweeting a stock image of one.



Sarah Huckabee's a vile piece of shit. The other day, she rejoiced at the fact that CNN won't be attending the White House christmas party, crowing about how "Christmas came early". Huckabee's response was unprovoked and gratuitous, and can't be defended on grounds that she's defending the president's policies. She's a piece of shit.

And she still hasn't baked that pie, like she promised to do in response to piegate. Because she's a fucking liar who probably has no idea how to bake a pie.

Ceetar
Nov 30 2017 03:39 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

The press needs to drop the fucking pie thing, referencing it is fine. a response of "Is that true, or is this another pecan pie?" would be great.

but press on the lies and evasions that matter, not her distractions.

metsmarathon
Nov 30 2017 03:40 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

Nymr83 wrote:
Its not an impression, its a reality. I have never called Hillary a c***, questioned the smell of her body parts, or called for her beheading. All of these things have been said about Huckabee, Ivanka, or Davos on this board recently.

The sooner you recognize this and distance yourself from the offenders the sooner we can discuss things that really matter.


i wholeheartedly agree. none of that shit is remotely helpful, and does nothing to advance either the discussion or the argument.

(somehow the smallness of trump's hands is perfectly ok, though, because he made an issue of it. i don't think it appropriate to comment, though, on his personal odor.)

it's perfectly fine to call sanders all of hte fun and innovative mean things you can think of, though when those things start to veer into the "i'm calling her this name because she's a woman" is when you run afoul.

i don't think anyone would stand for calling obama a n***er or monkey, alleging a level of consumption of fried chicken, or calling for a lynching. and rightly so. we should not allow any of ourselves to do the same comparative thing to sanders, or any woman, for the same reasons.

there is no excuse for it, no reason for it, and it should neither be tolerated nor encouraged.

it's ugly, petty, and weak. and a disservice to your cause. it's not about colorful language. also, it really detracts from the point that president trump is unfit for duty partly on account of the way that he uses words and language and shits all over the respect due to the office of the president of the united states. you can make your argument that sanders is a bad bad person, or devos is a bad bad person (and they both are - or at least are certainly behaving as such) without that garbage.

rise above, and all that.

let the racists and assholes and misogynists go low.

rise above.

batmagadanleadoff
Nov 30 2017 03:43 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

I don't see where anybody made fun of Huckabee's cunt. As for me, all I wrote was that I was thankful she didn't ask me to lick it. I'd prefer to pick and choose for myself whose pussy I lick. But that's me. Maybe youse would like to be forced to lick Hickabee's pussy. Different strokes, I suppose.

Nymr83
Nov 30 2017 03:54 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

Ceetar wrote:
The press needs to drop the fucking pie thing, referencing it is fine. a response of "Is that true, or is this another pecan pie?" would be great.

but press on the lies and evasions that matter, not her distractions.


Yeah, that is am issue with our media in general - focussing on bullshit instead of issues.

Nymr83
Nov 30 2017 03:56 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

Ceetar wrote:
batmagadanleadoff wrote:
Nymr83 wrote:
Its not an impression, its a reality. I have never called Hillary a c***, questioned the smell of her body parts, or called for her beheading. All of these things have been said about Huckabee, Ivanka, or Davos on this board recently.

The sooner you recognize this and distance yourself from the offenders the sooner we can discuss things that really matter.


I wonder whose posts you've been not reading to get that info, you bullshit artist.


other thread. this one's for the press secretary's idiocy.


Unfortunately, I still see that idiot's posts when others quote them. No solution other than banning him is perfect.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Nov 30 2017 04:05 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

In full disclosure I'm the one who called Palin a cunt, because I feel strongly for as incompetent as she is, she was also influential in gathering momentum for the full-on war on the First Amendment, and in the larger sense, on reality itself, that the R's, Huckabee and Trump are engaging in everyday. Could you imagine if some other group trod on the 2nd Amendment nearly as recklessly.

That's why she's a cunt, sorry.

Ceetar
Nov 30 2017 04:08 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

Exactly. The Republicans are running all over the laws to do whatever they want and empower and enrich already rich people and the democrats keep countering with things akin to "We should use nicer words"

Nymr83
Nov 30 2017 04:19 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
In full disclosure I'm the one who called Palin a cunt, because I feel strongly for as incompetent as she is, she was also influential in gathering momentum for the full-on war on the First Amendment, and in the larger sense, on reality itself, that the R's, Huckabee and Trump are engaging in everyday. Could you imagine if some other group trod on the 2nd Amendment nearly as recklessly.

That's why she's a cunt, sorry.


Is it ok for me to use the N word to desrcibe Obama? You can't say no because you like the guy, either the word is acceptable or it isn't. We can all agree Idi Amin was an absolutely terrible person who happened to be black, right? So can I use the N word there?

If your answer is no, then I'd like to know how you feel you can justify calling anyone c***

cooby
Nov 30 2017 04:22 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

I don't like the c word obviously but I do like lunchy . I'll give him a pass this once

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Nov 30 2017 04:32 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

Yeah I am confessing it was wrong and I shouldn't do it that way, but man, the epidemic overlooking of the fact that the current power in this country lies with people who willfully trample on the truth and defame the institutions that tell it, is what's driving me to call people c-nts. I can tell you a lot of the origin of this "personal" stuff comes from people we know and like and work with and are related to, who simply won't acknowledge this or explain it away as though destroying a free press and undermining fact-based world its a part of a bargain they're willing to make to win a tax break. It is sick and it needs to be called out.

batmagadanleadoff
Nov 30 2017 04:36 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

Edited 3 time(s), most recently on Nov 30 2017 04:47 PM

Nymr83 wrote:


Unfortunately, I still see that idiot's posts when others quote them. No solution other than banning him is perfect.


You should be banned. Let me tell the forum my Nomar story. I can tell this same story for a few other posters. Boy was that first year here fucking brutal. This cocksucker abused the shit out of me in the beginning. Wherever I went, wherever I posted, there he was stalking me, picking on me, going out of his way to criticize something or other thing I wrote. Anything I wrote. Whatever I wrote. Like every day, or so it seems, all these years later. And this was when I was a new, polite nice guy on his best behavior, staying on topic for the most part, very cognizant that I was a new guy and knowing my place. I wasn't even engaging with him. I wasn't even posting in threads in which he had a post. But that didn't stop him. As soon as I'd write a post, there he'd be, up my ass for something or other. And this occurred regularly, and like I said, I wasn't even engaging with him. He used to have this avatar of an angry cartoon frog, and whenever I'd see that frog, I'd be overcome with dread in anticipation of what was sure to be some gratuitous and unprovoked mean-spirited insult from this cocksucker who now acts as if he's innocent and above it all. And I ignored all of it, because I was on my best behavior and I was a new guy, and I thought I should just absorb it. But eventually, it got to the point where I had enough of his shit. I had decided I was here long enough and at the right time, I was gonna give it back to him. Besides, who the hell was he, I thought? I'd read enough of his posts and his knowledge of baseball and Mets history left me incredibly unimpressed. Sure enough, there he was, coming at me again on some attack or other. He was challenging something I wrote in a baseball thread and he was arguing some obvious point of knowledge that even a fourth grade baseball fan would know, but really going out of his way just to mix it up with me because that's what he was doing regularly and he obviously felt very comfortable doing that to me especially since I was very polite and never challenged him back. But this time, I gave it back. In spades. My response was like the written equivalent of ripping his lungs out from his chest and shoving them up his eyeballs. And all on the merits. I ripped him apart while demostrating that his pretense of a baseball argument was flawed. And like the classic bully that he is, he backed off and never bothered me again like that for years. What a fucking bully he is. But obviously, he harbors some latent or hidden personal hatred for me, because it all came back again in the political threads, where he heaped vile personal insults on me, more than I can even remember. But when I retaliated, I'm supposed to get banned. What a hypocrite motherfucker this vile piece of shit is.

batmagadanleadoff
Nov 30 2017 04:43 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

cooby wrote:
I don't like the c word obviously but I do like lunchy . I'll give him a pass this once


Unbelievable. No, not really. And not that I want you to bash Lunchy either. I like him too. I like you too, even if the nicest thing you can muster up to say about me is that backhanded compliment where I'm not the dictator of North Korea. But that this is a microcosm of how this forum operates. Not that I care. It should be very obvious to everyone that I have no more fucks to give here and that I am on my very last fucks that I don't have to give.

cooby
Nov 30 2017 04:59 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

Batmags I like you too. You make me laugh and I mean that as a compliment not an insult.

TransMonk
Nov 30 2017 08:40 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

[tweet:2xq3ap3o]https://twitter.com/markknoller/status/936332307522293765[/tweet:2xq3ap3o]

EVIL!!!!

Ceetar
Nov 30 2017 08:50 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

Unless she provides medical records I'm just going to assume she's faking.

Centerfield
Nov 30 2017 11:08 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/markknoller/status/936332307522293765[/tweet]

EVIL!!!!


So fine. Whatever. Maybe I didn't actually "have" strep throat, but I definitely could have had it. The threat is real.

Nymr83
Nov 30 2017 11:34 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

Ha!

Lefty Specialist
Dec 01 2017 01:15 AM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

You breathe in brimstone all day, sooner or later you're going to start coughing.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Dec 01 2017 02:49 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

She seems shockingly comfortable with all the shoveling, doesn't she? I mean, say what you will about Spicer or Conway-- and Lord knows, you could/did-- but the grind of it all did seem to take something out of them. It stressed them. This one... she just seems to grow stronger and more ornery.

Ceetar
Dec 01 2017 03:00 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
She seems shockingly comfortable with all the shoveling, doesn't she? I mean, say what you will about Spicer or Conway-- and Lord knows, you could/did-- but the grind of it all did seem to take something out of them. It stressed them. This one... she just seems to grow stronger and more ornery.


Umbridge like.

"Oh, this is cozy. Let me put a nice little cat sweater on this turd. Now, tell me all how much you like this sweater before you ask a question. Aren't we all having a great time?"

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Dec 01 2017 03:03 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

God, yes. She's American Umbridge.

Ceetar
Dec 01 2017 03:08 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

It's not a perfect analogy, but her boss as a head in the sand bumbling idiot who thinks what he's doing is right and as such is basically a pawn for Voldeputin.

batmagadanleadoff
Dec 01 2017 07:48 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

Lefty Specialist wrote:


As for Sarah, she's doing a job. It's harder than the press secretary's job should be because she has to shovel Trump's shit every day. If she didn't do it someone else would. I have no position on her bodily odors.


I can't telll if you're defending her, but if you are, I couldn't disagree more. If she's going to disgrace the office of press secretary with her easily disprovable outrageous bullshit, she deserves all the harsh, venomous criticism she's getting. The "Just following orders" defense didn't fly in Nuremberg and it shouldn't fly for her.

Uh oh. I think I just violated one of those absurd, moronic rules that applies only to me when I referenced Nazis. Oh boy, I'm gonna get it now for sure.

batmagadanleadoff
Dec 20 2017 04:50 AM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

Hah! Lawrence O'Donnell called this sack of shit Sanders "Trump's back-up liar" tonight. Then he explained that MSNBC's policy is not to play sound of this lying sack of shit because she's so full of shit all the time. Then he showed some video of Huckabee, but without any audio, just to amplify the point. Or was it to "mute" the point?

[fimg=444:255rw4ut]https://media.salon.com/2017/12/sarah-huckabee-sanders7.jpg[/fimg:255rw4ut]

Ceetar
Dec 20 2017 02:46 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

batmagadanleadoff wrote:
Hah! Lawrence O'Donnell called this sack of shit Sanders "Trump's back-up liar" tonight. Then he explained that MSNBC's policy is not to play sound of this lying sack of shit because she's so full of shit all the time. Then he showed some video of Huckabee, but without any audio, just to amplify the point. Or was it to "mute" the point?



kudos then. Her spiel is propaganda and the media absolutely does need to spread it for them. Especially if it's just "She said this" with no analysis.

batmagadanleadoff
Jan 11 2018 10:45 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

[fimg=444]https://media.salon.com/2017/12/sarah-huckabee-sanders7.jpg[/fimg]
"The vulgar word for today is "shithole". As in shithole countries, not ol' Sarah's pooper. Be thankful I don't show you."

TransMonk
Mar 25 2018 03:51 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

Jim Carrey has become a great Twitter follow. He has been posting some of his artwork inspired by the Trump administration.

[tweet:2yqtnlts]https://twitter.com/JimCarrey/status/975123558803259392[/tweet:2yqtnlts]

41Forever
Mar 25 2018 06:08 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

TransMonk wrote:
Jim Carrey has become a great Twitter follow. He has been posting some of his artwork inspired by the Trump administration.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/JimCarrey/status/975123558803259392[/tweet]


Carrey comes off like another fading star looking for attention. Sandres' father pointed out, accurately:

@jimcarrey attacks @PressSec for her faith; what would be hypocritical Hollywood reaction if he called someone a “so-called Muslim” or “so-called Jew?”

— Gov. Mike Huckabee

Benjamin Grimm
Mar 25 2018 06:25 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

I think he's actually attacking her for not following the precepts of her faith.

batmagadanleadoff
Mar 25 2018 06:30 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

Of course he is. Carrey, this past week, also painted Klepto Kushner. With dollar signs in his eyes and the number 666 in the background.

batmagadanleadoff
Apr 29 2018 08:29 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

I don't get it. There's a shitstorm of an uproar because Sarah Huckabee got roasted last night at the WHCD for being the vile bullshit artist that she is. What's the fucking problem? Did the Republicans think Sanders was supposed to get complimented for being the vile bullshit artist of a press secretary that she is?

Ceetar
Apr 30 2018 02:09 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

batmagadanleadoff wrote:
I don't get it. There's a shitstorm of an uproar because Sarah Huckabee got roasted last night at the WHCD for being the vile bullshit artist that she is. What's the fucking problem? Did the Republicans think Sanders was supposed to get complimented for being the vile bullshit artist of a press secretary that she is?




no.

batmagadanleadoff
May 04 2018 01:01 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

What a condescending piece of shit this vile woman is.

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5aeb ... f1931fd634

When is the National Razor coming for this administration? I can't wait.

batmagadanleadoff
Jun 25 2018 03:43 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

I give the Red Hen owner nine stars out of 10. I deducted one star because she didn't smash dogshit into Sarah Huckabee's face.

Ceetar
Jun 25 2018 03:56 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

The best joke on this distraction I saw was someone saying they would've just left her at the table for an hour and then gave her a bill and insisted she was served dinner.

Lefty Specialist
Jun 25 2018 06:00 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

Twitter is having a field day with this.

'Fortunately Sarah Huckabee Sanders was judged not on the color of her skin, but the content of her character.'

'If they think the Red Hen is a tough room, wait til they get to The Hague.'


And on and on.

Frankly, if the staff of a restaurant is in an uproar over my presence, I probably wouldn't want to eat the ranch dressing or the turkey gravy. Just saying. But kicking her out was wrong. Even habitual liars are allowed to eat.

But this is a sidebar, just like chanting at the DHS secretary who was tone-deaf enough to eat at a Mexican restaurant, or Melania's 'I Don't Care' jacket. They don't know how to handle this one, and throwing chaff out isn't working this time. Crying kids tend to focus the media's attention.

My son knows that even though he's on track to work for the Federal government he has to put those plans on hold until a change of administrations. Anyone who works for Trump is toxic in Washington (or exurban Virginia) right now. Since they're running a half-empty government currently, there'll be plenty of open positions in 2021. And if Trump is re-elected he'll find a job somewhere else in the Swamp. His girlfriend is in the same position: she wants to work for the State Department, but they're now going through people's social media to see if there's anything anti-Trump in there. She'd be flagged in a millisecond.

If Sarah wants a quick meal, though, she should just check this website: http://www.trumphotels.org/ Plenty of good seats available, and they make the reservations for you.

Edgy MD
Jun 25 2018 06:06 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

Apply anyhow.

batmagadanleadoff
Jun 25 2018 06:21 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

Kicking Huckabee out was the least they could've done. We go high when they go low hasn't exactly been working out very well. The Dems have been annihilated to within an inch of their lives. The SCOTUS was stolen from them. Not that it'll matter because the GOP also stole so many lower court judges that soon enough, things will essentially be decided in their favor before they ever get to the high court. Citizens United is here for life probably, and there are enough SCOTUS approved decisions on voter suppression and and an unwillingness to undo unconstitutionally gerrymandered lines that the GOP Is self entrenched. All that's left now is for the GOP to kill the filibuster altogether so they can then put the final nails in Democrats and democracy by passing more scumbag legislation -- like a national voter ID card, among other things.. And I'm shocked that that hasn't already happened.

Lefty Specialist
Jun 25 2018 07:01 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

Edgy MD wrote:
Apply anyhow.


He's got a year before this is a real issue. A lot can change by then. But he's spoken to purge victims, and it's not pretty. A lot of fundamental things are basically not being done right now, and knowledge is viewed as a liability.

Democrats aren't that close to annihilation. If they get the Senate back (certainly a possibility), they stop the judge pipeline cold. Depending on the polls, Democrats are leading or virtually tied in Arizona, Tennessee, Nevada, and are pretty successfully defending their 26 seats, with Missouri and North Dakota being the most vulnerable. And if things get wave-y, they could kick Ted Cruz to the curb in Texas.

They'll get the House, and with it, the REAL investigations. There's a funny thing about gerrymanders. They work initially, but over a 10 year period they become less effective as people move and demographics change. We're at the end of that cycle now in 2018 and 2020.

Edgy MD
Jun 25 2018 07:06 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

Arizona is weird. It's so polarized that Senators Flake and McCain enjoy far more support from the opposition party than from their own.

Lefty Specialist
Jun 25 2018 07:43 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

Flake is a pariah now because he's gone off the reservation regarding Trump. He's still voting with him, though, so talk is cheap.

Edgy MD
Jun 25 2018 08:45 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

"Just because you don’t see a judge doesn’t mean you aren’t receiving due process."


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Lefty Specialist
Jun 26 2018 02:19 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

See, the funny thing about sanctioning violating due process for anybody, you sanction violating due process for EVERYBODY.

Trump has a fundamental misunderstanding about how this country works. He views it like one of his companies.

This is 'slowly boiling the frog' kind of stuff. One day, you wake up and the big yellow taxi is taking away your old man.

batmagadanleadoff
Jun 26 2018 03:43 PM
Re: Horse, Shit & Horseshit: The Sarah Huckabee Thread.

Lefty Specialist wrote:
See, the funny thing about sanctioning violating due process for anybody, you sanction violating due process for EVERYBODY.

Trump has a fundamental misunderstanding about how this country works. He views it like one of his companies.

This is 'slowly boiling the frog' kind of stuff. One day, you wake up and the big yellow taxi is taking away your old man.


I think we're already there. They're starting to denaturalize naturalized citizens, a procedure so exceedingly rare, that you pretty much have to have hidden that you were a former member of the SS on your citizenship application to be at risk for that.

Scary stuff.