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Personal attacks & forum at a crossroads

41Forever Nov 30 2017 02:24 PM

I’ll start this anew from the press secretary thread. Centerfield wrote: Not that my opinion matters, but I'd love it if the feuding parties could hit reset on everything here. I don't know enough to know what the genesis of the problem is, but largely this board is populated by good people, and it's silly to hold these personal vendettas against good people. I do fully understand the frustration of being painted as the aggressor because of a crass speaking (or writing) manner. Usually it's me that ends up swearing too much or yelling, or just taking things too far. But it's important to understand that sometimes the most offensive ones are the soft-spoken, gentle speaking douchebags who are passively aggressive. It's fucking infuriating. And sometimes third parties can't see that unless you take the time to really look. So I do get that. But at the same time, even if you are provoked, it's on you if you take it too far. And when I eventually calm down, I realize that I've been a dickhead too. So maybe we can all take some blame and start over. I hope that this post makes some sense. Of course, none of this shoulder excuse soulless garbage waste of space completely devoid of morals cocksuckers who let political allegiances and agendas replace basic human decency. Ones who can't agree that pedophilia, racism, and sexual harrassment are inexcusable. Those dickheads should be called out for what they are. On Edit: Just read my post again. I am certainly not implying that anyone here provoked anyone by being a soft spoken, passive aggressive douchebag. I hope no one took it that way. I'm just speaking in general, that sometimes the guy that's yelling and sweajring may not be the aggressor. But people who engage in deeply personal attacks and daily antagonism are aggressors. Just my 2 cents, but I think the forum is at a bit of a crossroads. Ashie is right. There are fewer people posting. Reading some of the archived threads posted recently, I was struck by the number people who don't post any more. That might be because the Mets had a crappy season. But it also might be because the attacks aren't just confined to the politics thread, but now have spread across the non-baseball forum and even into the baseball threads. I think people are sick of it. They're sick of hearing it in the office, they're sick of it filling their Facebook threads and they can't escape it even when they come here. I can't speak for anyone but myself, but I like to poke in here throughout the day when I need a little break from all the stressful stuff going on at work. Not too long ago, I think when I realized I'd been here 10 years, I posted about how much the people in this forum meant to me, how it was a special place and how it kept me close to my team even though I live far from New York. It was a fun place to talk about baseball, our kids, obscure 1980s synth bands, and, on a good day, the Ramones. And today, after wading through the now-daily baiting and personal attacks and toxicity, I asked myself why I was reading the forum. It wasn't relieving stress, it was adding to it. There must be other places where people talk about the Mets without a small number of people destroying it for everyone else. If we could even limit the toxicity to one thread -- heck, call it the "I hate the president" thread -- and make it easy for everyone else to avoid it, it would be an improvement. Then we could also have a place for good discussions without the hate speech, bigotry, misogyny, and smears. If I'm alone in feeling this way, so be it. But I don't think I am.

Benjamin Grimm Nov 30 2017 02:30 PM Re: Personal attacks & forum at a crossroads

No, you're not.

MFS62 Nov 30 2017 02:32 PM Re: Personal attacks & forum at a crossroads

I posted a long time ago that I have seen other baseball boards destroyed by nasty political talk, and didn't want that to happen here. As compared to those other boards, the members here seem more adult. I hope we can all take a step back, take a deep breath, and comport ourselves in an adult manner. Later

seawolf17 Nov 30 2017 02:38 PM Re: Personal attacks & forum at a crossroads

Everything kind of sucks now everywhere, because it's impossible to get away from all the crap. It pervades everything we say and do. I've stayed out of the muckslinging here entirely because I want this to be my Mets escape too, but that pervasiveness sucks.

Nymr83 Nov 30 2017 02:53 PM Re: Personal attacks & forum at a crossroads

So keep it out of any thread that isnt specifically about politics. Warn people and then temporarily ban them if they still dont get it. Better yet, move the politics threads to the Red Light Forum and make that the only place it is allowed.

41Forever Nov 30 2017 03:06 PM Re: Personal attacks & forum at a crossroads

So keep it out of any thread that isnt specifically about politics. Warn people and then temporarily ban them if they still dont get it. Better yet, move the politics threads to the Red Light Forum and make that the only place it is allowed. The FAQ covers it: So seriously, what are the rules here? Seriously, as few as possible. The main one is that we're here to discuss baseball. So if you came to sell Viagra, hawk mortgages, or spam us with your own website we're not interested. If you want to sell your tickets for next Saturday's game that's fine - but contant solicitations won't be tolerated. The general rule is that this place is about the Mets, not you. That being said, relentless and abusive behavior can eventually result in an attempt to ban a poster. We realize this is nearly impossible ... but a thirty day for first offense, hundred day for second, and lifetime ban for the third seems reasonable to us.

cooby Nov 30 2017 03:29 PM Re: Personal attacks & forum at a crossroads

Sounds like a plan

MFS62 Nov 30 2017 03:34 PM Re: Personal attacks & forum at a crossroads

Yes, its always good to read the rule book before you play. Later

batmagadanleadoff Nov 30 2017 03:37 PM Re: Personal attacks & forum at a crossroads

So keep it out of any thread that isnt specifically about politics. Warn people and then temporarily ban them if they still dont get it. Better yet, move the politics threads to the Red Light Forum and make that the only place it is allowed. The FAQ covers it: So seriously, what are the rules here? Seriously, as few as possible. The main one is that we're here to discuss baseball. So if you came to sell Viagra, hawk mortgages, or spam us with your own website we're not interested. If you want to sell your tickets for next Saturday's game that's fine - but contant solicitations won't be tolerated. The general rule is that this place is about the Mets, not you. That being said, relentless and abusive behavior can eventually result in an attempt to ban a poster. We realize this is nearly impossible ... but a thirty day for first offense, hundred day for second, and lifetime ban for the third seems reasonable to us. Whaddya think of the way Trump and Huckabee use the word "Pocahontas"? Was that a racial slur, the way Trump uses it to describe Elizabeth Warren? I wanna know because I'd like to use that word provided it's not a racial slur. Maybe I should just apply Sarah Huckabee's interpretation of that word Pocahontas, because then I'd be allowed to use it as freely as I wished. Also, do you think it's possible that some poster could be abused here, probably brutalized during his first year here, like no other poster was ever, but that so long as no foul language or expletive deleteds were ever used, that behavior was OK? Also, are you the self-appointed expert on abuse?

cooby Nov 30 2017 04:02 PM Re: Personal attacks & forum at a crossroads

41 is a good poster. I like him. What's the diff who he voted for? He seems kind and decent

Nymr83 Nov 30 2017 04:12 PM Re: Personal attacks & forum at a crossroads

cooby wrote: 41 is a good poster. I like him. What's the diff who he voted for? He seems kind and decent there are people, not just on this board but on facebook and everywhere else, who want to make everyone's whole lives all about politics and enforcing their views on everyone else. Wanna talk baseball? Discuss your kids? Too bad, its all about them and their arrogant belief that their political views (often misguided but thats not really the point) are more important than you and what you care about. I do my best to avoid these people, having unfriended many on FB and simply avoided speaking with them in 'real life' - your mileage may vary, but I do find them far more prevalent on the internet, probably because more people have at least some sense of civility in person.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Nov 30 2017 04:41 PM Re: Personal attacks & forum at a crossroads

It's not the forum but the United States that is at a crossroads. This is not overstating it. The last time the forum got so nasty that it got broken up was in the weeks after 9/11, another era of national trauma. But I have to say as horrible as that event was and for all the rotten directions the country took since then, my sense is that nothing then is as day-in, day-out as traumatic as living in a country that somehow "elected" an imbecile sex-offender treasonous clown to lead it. And what drives you crazy is how OK some people are with this.

batmagadanleadoff Nov 30 2017 04:52 PM Re: Personal attacks & forum at a crossroads

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: It's not the forum but the United States that is at a crossroads. This is not overstating it. The last time the forum got so nasty that it got broken up was in the weeks after 9/11, another era of national trauma. But I have to say as horrible as that event was and for all the rotten directions the country took since then, my sense is that nothing then is as day-in, day-out as traumatic as living in a country that somehow "elected" an imbecile sex-offender treasonous clown to lead it. And what drives you crazy is how OK some people are with this. I've been dying to write your post, that this is all the fault of that piece of shit that was voted into the White House, but I held back, because nobody would take that post seriously if I was the one writing it. We are not living in a normal world anymore. And yes, it goddamn does matter who you voted for in the last presidential election.

Ceetar Nov 30 2017 04:57 PM Re: Personal attacks & forum at a crossroads

batmagadanleadoff wrote: We are not living in a normal world anymore. And yes, it goddamn does matter who you voted for in the last presidential election. It goes beyond that. Things are broken, Trump is more harbinger than cause. He's a dead canary. Will we get out in time?

Edgy MD Nov 30 2017 05:36 PM Re: Personal attacks & forum at a crossroads

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: It's not the forum but the United States that is at a crossroads. This is not overstating it. I agree with this. On the other hand, the reality of our now-daily national injustice is what many or most black Americans feel like they live under every year. You organize and work to defeat an unjust regime, but still get married, have kids, and build your communities up. I'd rather not see a community like this go up in flames, as it is the workable communities of civil society that are the building blocks of the next regime. Building community and making it work is activism too.

41Forever Nov 30 2017 06:04 PM Re: Personal attacks & forum at a crossroads Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Nov 30 2017 10:24 PM

Being angry about the president isn't an excuse to engage in personal attacks in a baseball forum. And it especially isn't an excuse to personally attack people in threads outside of that subject area. And to justify that bad behavior by saying you think you were mistreated in 2008 is ridiculous. Take responsibility for your own behavior.

TransMonk Nov 30 2017 07:10 PM Re: Personal attacks & forum at a crossroads

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: It's not the forum but the United States that is at a crossroads. This is not overstating it. The last time the forum got so nasty that it got broken up was in the weeks after 9/11, another era of national trauma. But I have to say as horrible as that event was and for all the rotten directions the country took since then, my sense is that nothing then is as day-in, day-out as traumatic as living in a country that somehow "elected" an imbecile sex-offender treasonous clown to lead it. And what drives you crazy is how OK some people are with this. This is where I am at. Well said.

metsmarathon Nov 30 2017 07:28 PM Re: Personal attacks & forum at a crossroads

i know. seriously. i was going to caveat the hell out of that, but figured it loses some of it's strength. hamburger flippers are people too, and every bit as deserving of the american dream. they typically have families that they are a valued, loved part of, and are often working to support their families. and if they don't do their job right, people can get legitimately sick. possibly even die. noone is unimportant.

41Forever Nov 30 2017 07:45 PM Re: Personal attacks & forum at a crossroads

metsmarathon wrote: i know. seriously. i was going to caveat the hell out of that, but figured it loses some of it's strength. hamburger flippers are people too, and every bit as deserving of the american dream. they typically have families that they are a valued, loved part of, and are often working to support their families. and if they don't do their job right, people can get legitimately sick. possibly even die. noone is unimportant. Absolutely.

Edgy MD Nov 30 2017 07:59 PM Re: Personal attacks & forum at a crossroads

Poor Peter Noone.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Dec 01 2017 02:56 PM Re: Personal attacks & forum at a crossroads

He's been married seven times before. He'll survive. If someone criticizing your tone without name- calling or other ad hominem stuff seems to you like a personal attack, well, I wish you luck with that. I also wish you'd stop.

Centerfield Dec 01 2017 03:58 PM Re: Personal attacks & forum at a crossroads

41Forever wrote: Being angry about the president isn't an excuse to engage in personal attacks in a baseball forum. And it especially isn't an excuse to personally attack people in threads outside of that subject area. And to justify that bad behavior by saying you think you were mistreated in 2008 is ridiculous. Take responsibility for your own behavior. Ok. All cards on the table. I don't know how many ways we can say this. This isn't just about "being angry at the president". And when you minimize it in this way, it's infuriating. There have been many presidents/governors/mayors that I've disagreed with. Nothing in my lifetime comes close to what is going on right now. Donald Trump is a despicable human being. I mean this with no exaggeration whatsoever. He is just a terrible, awful person. It is traumatic for us to know that we are among people that either (a) do not see this, or even worse, (b) pretend not to see this because it benefits them. I'm not exaggerating when I say this is a constant source of frustration and anger. 41Forever, the reason I am so angry with you is that I believe you know, deep down inside, what type of person Trump is. You are intelligent, you are not part of his uneducated southern base. You know full well what he is, but you are justifying your behavior because you don't want to admit that you voted for evil. Racist, sexist, misogynistic, homophobic evil. You look the other way on all of this because it serves your purposes. I can't understand how you can live with yourself. I really can't. You've denounced Roy Moore, albeit somewhat sheepishly. I've denounced Franken and Conyers. But you have avoided my question about denouncing Trump. Outright ignored it. This is what is so troubling. This is why it's so hard to say "Well let's just talk baseball." Because it's hard to talk baseball with someone that you know is condoning (or deliberately ignoring) sexual assault. I said it to DGW. I am way guilty of looking the other way on Bill Clinton. It's a terrible mistake that I will never make again. It's disturbing that you don't agree with this. But you are right. Ad hominem attacks do no good. So I will make every attempt to keep it civil. I would say, it's important for both sides to remember: *These are not normal times, and for those of us that are against Trump, there is a cloud of disbelief and incredible anger that hangs over us at all times. For those on the other side, understand where we are coming from. *But this is no excuse to be a dickhead. Blow up once in a while? Sure, it happens. But calm down, apologize, and try to be civil *Understand that anger, and accusations and fire are the natural reactions. But they accomplish nothing. Love, compassion, understanding. That is what will get us out of this. If we can't fix this fractured forum, I am pessimistic about fixing our country. I'm down to start it here. So let's start it then. 41Forever, I apologize about my tone. No matter what I think of you, it's disrespectful and unproductive. What I wrote above still stands, but I will make every attempt to keep it civil.

cooby Dec 01 2017 04:07 PM Re: Personal attacks & forum at a crossroads

Beautiful. And not to detract from this, if anyone missed my apology in the Sleazeball thread, I'll say it again. I'm sorry. Ceeter put my frustration into better words than I ever did :D

41Forever Dec 01 2017 04:33 PM Re: Personal attacks & forum at a crossroads

Centerfield, I deeply appreciate your tone and your thoughts. I don't think people realize there are things I cannot say, and topics I cannot cover. We're Facebook friends, right? If you want to talk offline or even give me a call.

d'Kong76 Dec 01 2017 04:40 PM Re: Personal attacks & forum at a crossroads

You can certainly say whether you voted for him, why, and why you continue to support him. Where do you stand on impeachment?

metsmarathon Dec 01 2017 04:45 PM Re: Personal attacks & forum at a crossroads

41Forever wrote: Centerfield, I deeply appreciate your tone and your thoughts. I don't think people realize there are things I cannot say, and topics I cannot cover. We're Facebook friends, right? If you want to talk offline or even give me a call. it's certainly true that there may not be as deep an appreciation of the limitations and jeopardy you could put your career at over comments made on the internet. which are never as anonymous as you hope. i mean, shit, if i were inclined to be involved on an internet forum that had deeply involved side conversations related to things that i work on, i'd basically not be able to say a damned thing.

Ceetar Dec 01 2017 04:59 PM Re: Personal attacks & forum at a crossroads

So maybe it's better not to dive in halfway?

d'Kong76 Dec 01 2017 05:00 PM Re: Personal attacks & forum at a crossroads

We've all been put in that position from time to time online. Saying I voted for Trump and still support him because _________________ is not going to put anyone's livelyhood in danger or anything. (imho)

Edgy MD Dec 01 2017 05:10 PM Re: Personal attacks & forum at a crossroads

metsmarathon wrote: 41Forever wrote: Centerfield, I deeply appreciate your tone and your thoughts. I don't think people realize there are things I cannot say, and topics I cannot cover. We're Facebook friends, right? If you want to talk offline or even give me a call. it's certainly true that there may not be as deep an appreciation of the limitations and jeopardy you could put your career at over comments made on the internet. which are never as anonymous as you hope. i mean, shit, if i were inclined to be involved on an internet forum that had deeply involved side conversations related to things that i work on, i'd basically not be able to say a damned thing. I've been reduced to using an alternate last name online. A colleague of mine had his career ruined and life placed at risk by malicious fake news peddlers.

Nymr83 Dec 01 2017 05:35 PM Re: Personal attacks & forum at a crossroads

Ceetar wrote: So maybe it's better not to dive in halfway? If I worked in politics i'd avoid the Politics thread, but that is just me. the bigger issue is that it keeps bleeding over - with nastiness - elsewhere. its one thing to avoid certain threads, its quite another to be forced to read things and not reply to them, this is a big reason why I blocked someone - I'd rather not see him than be wasting my time replying to all the crap.

Ceetar Dec 01 2017 06:43 PM Re: Personal attacks & forum at a crossroads

I haven't seen much elsewhere, but I probably just gloss over the boring stuff that's offthread.

SteveJRogers Dec 01 2017 08:19 PM Re: Personal attacks & forum at a crossroads

d'Kong76 wrote: We've all been put in that position from time to time online. Saying I voted for Trump and still support him because _________________ is not going to put anyone's livelyhood in danger or anything. (imho) Yeah, but it shouldn’t cause someone to end a cyber or IRL friendship over. Unless one of them did, or said something so vile and evil of a line cross, its just political, social, philosophical, and even theological differences. Then again I’ve seen libs online act in stunned disbelief over the long friendship of Antonin Scalia and Ruth Bader Ginsberg, and declare that they could never do something like that. And as much as someone can put that “year of fear” op-ed piece up when someone says either they haven’t noticed much differences, or how economic indicators are improving, well consider that they pay attention to news sources, both MSM and more liberal slanted “independent journalism” that are causing them to be more fearful and worried. Which is quite a coincidence with that FNC is often charged with. I don’t know if its the rise of easy access and “hot take” social media platforms (FB, Twitter, Tumblr, Reddit, etc) as a whole, or entire generations suddenly realizing that there are more people out there that completely disagree with them on social, political, theological, etc issues than just those crazy family members they interact with 7 times out of the year, or the nebulous masses that make certain entertainment or information outlets they hate popular. FWIW, last point, but after SHS tweeted about having live turkeys in her office reminded her of the West Wing episode, she got attacked on social media for “thinking she was LIKE that character.” First, she never said she was like the character, but it was like a scene out of the show. But it does underscore the bubble mentality that many seem to have. Like only liberals shoud be allowed to enjoy The West Wing! How many Deadhead stickers on the back of Cadillacs will it take for people to realize that entertainment outlets can be enjoyed by everyone, no matter what their political, theological or social views are?

RealityChuck Dec 01 2017 08:27 PM Re: Personal attacks & forum at a crossroads

I think discussion boards are a rule are losing member and having fewer posts. Politics may have something to do with it, but most of the boards I'm on have much less traffic than they did even two years ago. People are using Facebook, Twitter, and the like for their discussions. They're more limited, and not designed for any serious talk, but as people spend time there, they spend less time on dedicated discussion boards.

d'Kong76 Dec 01 2017 08:47 PM Re: Personal attacks & forum at a crossroads

SteveJRogers wrote: Yeah, but it shouldn’t cause someone to end a cyber or IRL friendship over. This doesn't apply to me, I love everyone here.... even... well, never mind about that. My long time friend (and Best Man) and his wife voted for Trump and I give them shit about it all the time. It's a free country, vote for who you want -- but OWN it. That being said, it is a secret ballot and if you don't want to share you probably shouldn't be overly prodded to do so so I'll personally stop going forward.

SteveJRogers Dec 01 2017 08:52 PM Re: Personal attacks & forum at a crossroads

RealityChuck wrote: People are using Facebook, Twitter, and the like for their discussions. They're more limited, and not designed for any serious talk, but as people spend time there, they spend less time on dedicated discussion boards. They can also be tailored to fit any sort of bubble the user wants to stay in more easily than a discussion board.

Ceetar Dec 01 2017 08:56 PM Re: Personal attacks & forum at a crossroads

SteveJRogers wrote: RealityChuck wrote: People are using Facebook, Twitter, and the like for their discussions. They're more limited, and not designed for any serious talk, but as people spend time there, they spend less time on dedicated discussion boards. They can also be tailored to fit any sort of bubble the user wants to stay in more easily than a discussion board. this is very much a myth.

Frayed Knot Dec 01 2017 09:09 PM Re: Personal attacks & forum at a crossroads

SteveJRogers wrote: Then again I’ve seen libs online act in stunned disbelief over the long friendship of Antonin Scalia and Ruth Bader Ginsberg, and declare that they could never do something like that. That's because things have devolved at this point to where folks now think that the other side is not merely wrong, but evil as well. Neither side has a monopoly on this type of thinking but there are plenty who are guilty on each side.

SteveJRogers Dec 01 2017 09:18 PM Re: Personal attacks & forum at a crossroads

Ceetar wrote: SteveJRogers wrote: RealityChuck wrote: People are using Facebook, Twitter, and the like for their discussions. They're more limited, and not designed for any serious talk, but as people spend time there, they spend less time on dedicated discussion boards. They can also be tailored to fit any sort of bubble the user wants to stay in more easily than a discussion board. this is very much a myth. IDK, pretty sure you can block a user, even if they aren’t connected with you in any way (friend, follower, whatever) and not be able to see their material in any same groups (or hashtagged conversations, etc) you are in with them. As well as make yourself so uber private that only your friends/followers can see anything you do, anywhere on the platform.

Ceetar Dec 01 2017 09:30 PM Re: Personal attacks & forum at a crossroads

And even still, it's basically a public stream. It's really really hard to completely insulate yourself from that, especially if you follow something else. Like if you follow people for Mets reasons and it's the offseason and they tweet about other stuff. It's just hard. Hell, it's even harder within the group. You can follow mostly Mets people on Twitter/FAcebook and still occasionally get stuff about the Yankees, or the Reds, or whatever just because people are varied and talk about different things. You rarely get that here for instance. In a dedicated private forum with a login. Especially one with such a small user base. And especially if you're comparing it to those that DON'T utilize social media.

cooby Dec 01 2017 09:38 PM Re: Personal attacks & forum at a crossroads

I once joined a self help kind of Facebook group that was supposed to be uber private, no one could read without joining, no one could join without screening, etc etc You could basically tell your tale, and get and give feedback and encouragement. Two days later my daughter wrote to me and said 'mom I'm getting suggestions to join a certain group because your friend cooby is in it' Now she knew what it was all about and god bless her she warned me that uber private or not, my friends were getting notices about it All is not as secrets as they promise on the internet

Edgy MD Dec 01 2017 09:49 PM Re: Personal attacks & forum at a crossroads

RealityChuck wrote: I think discussion boards are a rule are losing member and having fewer posts. Politics may have something to do with it, but most of the boards I'm on have much less traffic than they did even two years ago. They should use more Spanish thread titles.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 01 2017 10:25 PM Re: Personal attacks & forum at a crossroads

I confess my time to browse these boards is trending toward free fiddling on my phone, and message boards, at least this one, not optimized for mobile. Asked this before but is there a mobile app version of this board? I know some board software have associated apps.

dgwphotography Dec 01 2017 10:33 PM Re: Personal attacks & forum at a crossroads

RealityChuck wrote: I think discussion boards are a rule are losing member and having fewer posts. Politics may have something to do with it, but most of the boards I'm on have much less traffic than they did even two years ago. People are using Facebook, Twitter, and the like for their discussions. They're more limited, and not designed for any serious talk, but as people spend time there, they spend less time on dedicated discussion boards. I've found that the photography discussion boards I belong to have much less traffic, and politics are not discussed on either one. I think it's also a case of the next generation seeing discussion boards as being antiquated. My kids always tease me, "Oh a discussion board, how '90's of you"

Ashie62 Dec 01 2017 10:36 PM Re: Personal attacks & forum at a crossroads

I have not seen Zvon, Irish,MGIM, MF and just one post from Tmonk. It is the off season though.

dgwphotography Dec 01 2017 10:45 PM Re: Personal attacks & forum at a crossroads

MGIM is 41Forever

d'Kong76 Dec 01 2017 10:49 PM Re: Personal attacks & forum at a crossroads

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I confess my time to browse these boards is trending toward free fiddling on my phone, and message boards, at least this one, not optimized for mobile. Asked this before but is there a mobile app version of this board? I know some board software have associated apps. What kind of optimization are you looking for? There's really very little here to be optimized. If you look at something on a a five inch screen, it's gonna be tiny. I guess there are more crossroads than just the social bickering one.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 01 2017 11:35 PM Re: Personal attacks & forum at a crossroads

I'd be looking for an app that optimizes the page for the small screen, rather than relying on a tiny web page. Some board backends have an associated app like this one for example. https://www.proboards.com/ There's also an app called tapatalk that is supposed to optimize boards but not sure if its compatible with what we have. I totally wouldn't suggest this would bring back the board's popularity and it's mostly a convenience thing for me. I am also ignorant of downsides of new software like the ability to preserve our cool feats and archives

d'Kong76 Dec 01 2017 11:51 PM Re: Personal attacks & forum at a crossroads

I looked around after posting and there's also another third party thing that looks popular called Forum Runner that looks interesting and is geared towards message boards. I'll look into more, but we probably wouldn't do anything with something like that until January at this point.

dgwphotography Dec 02 2017 01:50 AM Re: Personal attacks & forum at a crossroads

I think JCL is referring to mobile responsiveness. That’s something that can be done with a third party plugin, or just with the site’s css.

d'Kong76 Dec 02 2017 01:59 AM Re: Personal attacks & forum at a crossroads

Forum Runner is a third party plug in.

MFS62 Dec 02 2017 02:51 PM Re: Personal attacks & forum at a crossroads

dgwphotography wrote: MGIM is 41Forever Can't keep track of the players without a scorecard. The next thing you're going to tell me is Batmags' other name is Bruce Wayne? Hey! This isn't some trick to get us to buy scorecards, is it? Later

batmagadanleadoff Dec 09 2017 09:50 PM Re: Personal attacks & forum at a crossroads

What exactly is it that I'm allowed to post in this thread?

batmagadanleadoff Dec 09 2017 09:56 PM Re: Personal attacks & forum at a crossroads

Five minutes went by and that last post up above from about five minutes ago hasn't gotten red-lit yet. I guess that post's okay, not that anyone with the power to move posts is gonna answer it.