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Frayed Knot Dec 12 2017 02:03 PM

The Yanx apparently didn't think they had enough very large/high-K bashers so they added former SD Padre Jabari Blash [6' 5" / 235 -- 100 Ks in 235 ML ABs] in exchange for once and future Padre Chase Headley along with pitcher Bryan [crossout]Stokes[/crossout] Mitchell The 28 y/o Blash has spent most of his career in the minor league since being signed out of the US Virgin Islands in 2010. If he makes the big league club in 2018 (not particularly likely), he'll join the rest of the offensive line of Judge [6' 7" / 282], Stanton [6' 6" / 245], and Sanchez [6' 2" / 230] who will all certainly hit the ball a long ways ... on those occasions when they make contact [491 Ks in a combined 1,610 ABs in 2017] or a 30.4% K rate. Getting rid of Headly saves the Yanx $13 million for the final year of his contract

Ceetar Dec 12 2017 02:05 PM Re: MFY 2K18

basically it's a straight salary dump because they can't afford to keep Headley.

Edgy MD Dec 12 2017 02:21 PM Re: MFY 2K18

So, is Miguel Andujar and his eight career plate appearances now their #1 thirdbaseman? With the scarecely-more-experienced Ronald Torreyes at second?

Nymr83 Dec 12 2017 02:57 PM Re: MFY 2K18

Ceetar wrote: basically it's a straight salary dump because they can't afford to keep Headley. A New York team can't afford to pay its players? thy even throw in valuable relievers just to get rid of them? WHERE IS THE OUTRAGE?

Ceetar Dec 12 2017 03:03 PM Re: MFY 2K18

Edgy MD wrote: So, is Miguel Andujar and his eight career plate appearances now their #1 thirdbaseman? With the scarecely-more-experienced Ronald Torreyes at second? They've got this other guy Gleyber Torres apparently, who's the #2 prospect according to mlb, for whatever that's worth. 2b/3b. He got about 100 PA in AAA before Tommy John surgery. I guess they can just roll with the unproven but highly regarded rookie. I mean, I know everyone says the Mets will suck going with two of them, so i dunno.

Edgy MD Dec 12 2017 03:08 PM Re: MFY 2K18

Gleyber will probably appear in 2018, but counting on him from opening day? That'd be surprising.

Ceetar Dec 12 2017 03:24 PM Re: MFY 2K18

still lots of time to go. this also applies to anyone googling Fred Wilpon's home address btw. I mean, Torres will be down until 4/15 for the extra year of control at the very least. People speculate they'll get a bland veteran like Frazier back to hold the fort. but they probably need two infielders, unless they're gonna mix and match. But as of right now? I don't think they're a better team. they're probably worse.

Ashie62 Dec 12 2017 03:32 PM Re: MFY 2K18

Getting a taker for Headley was a coup.

41Forever Dec 13 2017 06:56 AM Re: MFY 2K18

Detroit papers are saying that the MFYs are making a run at Michael Fulmer, who we traded to get Cespedes. He's the Tigers' best remaining pitcher and under team control for a while, so I don't see this happening. Tigers are rebuilding, and he's young enough to be part of the rebuild.

Frayed Knot Dec 16 2017 01:08 PM Re: MFY 2K18

Sabathia back to the Yanx on a one year deal. His 2017 was a nice bounce back year for him as he not only toed the slab 27 times but also looked to be one of those guys who adjusted to being a pitcher rather than a thrower now that the only '97' readout he sees is the one following the '2' on his bathroom scale. Now it just remains to be seen if the to-be 38 y/o (July) can do the same in '18 ... but since Ohtani didn't go running to them as was thought to be preordained this was likely their fall-back move.

Frayed Knot Dec 16 2017 01:24 PM Re: MFY 2K18

And in sort of MFY news: also back on one-year deals are the radio team of Sterling & Waldman. Not sure if the Yanx have something else in mind or if this has more to do with the changes of ownership/mgm't at FAN, but one year deals sounds unusual to me for media contracts, particularly long-standing ones. There was even apparently talk of adding a third voice but that's not going to happen (when would he/she even get a chance to talk?!!?).

Centerfield Dec 18 2017 09:29 PM Re: MFY 2K18

Yankees trying to put a package together to get former Met prospect Michael Fulmer. Would be a huge addition to the staff and maybe the piece that puts them over the edge. They have the prospects to make the move. You get the feeling the Yankees will outperform the Mets this winter even if you don’t count Giancarlo Stanton.

Ceetar Dec 19 2017 08:00 AM Re: MFY 2K18

Centerfield wrote: Yankees trying to put a package together to get former Met prospect Michael Fulmer. Would be a huge addition to the staff and maybe the piece that puts them over the edge. They have the prospects to make the move. You get the feeling the Yankees will outperform the Mets this winter even if you don’t count Giancarlo Stanton. this winter perhaps. luckily baseball is a summer sport. They got Stanton dropped in their lap and still had to shed payroll to make it happen, and then they just seem to be signing the same guys back. Going to the well one too many times? Specifically inregards to CC.

Edgy MD Feb 07 2018 02:27 PM Re: MFY 2K18

Apparently those crazy Yankees have acquired a famous football player to exploit his fame and indulge his embarrassing fantasy of playing in the bigs. Who DOES that?

Ceetar Feb 07 2018 02:33 PM Re: MFY 2K18

Edgy MD wrote: Apparently those crazy Yankees have acquired famous football player to exploit his fame and indulge his embarassing fantasy of playing in the bigs. Who DOES that? Well this is just a temporary Spring stunt. He's also a good quarterback, and is committing to the task full time while he's there, not also broadcasting football. Although there is some indication he has similarly antiquated views on other things to the guy you allude to.

Edgy MD Feb 07 2018 02:39 PM Re: MFY 2K18

Committed to the task full time while he's there. The new test of human character.

Frayed Knot Feb 07 2018 03:30 PM Re: MFY 2K18

Didn't Wilson also claim to be abstinent prior to his marriage to whichever pop star he's currently married to? There's obviously something about sexually pure QBs that appeal to NY baseball teams. I'll let the psychiatrist deal with the 'why' on that one. Russell Wilson's 'career', brief as it was back 7 & 8 seasons ago.

MFS62 Feb 09 2018 08:04 AM Re: MFY 2K18

What a shame. The MFYs have been able to find a franchise quarterback and the Jets haven't. Later

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Feb 10 2018 07:06 PM Re: MFY 2K18

Frayed Knot wrote: Didn't Wilson also claim to be abstinent prior to his marriage to whichever pop star he's currently married to? Ciara. And... um... she does appear to be worth waiting for. (FF to the bull-riding at 3:09 or so if you're not the patient type.) [youtube]Lp6W4aK1sbs[/youtube]

Edgy MD Feb 12 2018 12:39 PM Re: MFY 2K18

Former MLB pitching star Esteban Loaiza has been apparently arrested with 20 kilos of heroin and cocaine, the sort of quantity that earns you labels like "Kingpin." [tweet:2v8uv86c]https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/963060403671453697[/tweet:2v8uv86c] Esteban pitched 42 1/3 highly ineffective innings for the 2004 Yankees. Not much as a portion of a 14-year career, but enough to earn him a berth in this thread. I think it's probably a good idea to reopen the investigation into the death of his wife.

MFS62 Feb 12 2018 07:07 PM Re: MFY 2K18

Amazing. It took only 44 pounds* of drugs to turn a workhorse into a mule. * 20 kilos, as per Jeff Passan's tweet Later

MFS62 Feb 12 2018 07:44 PM Re: MFY 2K18

What the heck is THIS all about? http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/posada-sid ... d=52994171 I'm thinking The Onion. Or are we doing the time warp again? The dateline is 2018? Later

G-Fafif Mar 12 2018 02:23 PM Re: MFY 2K18

Happened to catch the introduction to the afternoon program on WFAN today in which the recorded introduction let us know the broadcast would be coming to us live from "Steinbrenner Stadium" in Tampa. WFAN is the MFYs' flagship radio station. There is no facility called Steinbrenner Stadium. But this is what happens when you have unnatural affiliations.

Frayed Knot Mar 26 2018 02:21 PM Re: MFY 2K18

The oft-injured 1B Greg Bird is injured once again as his "sore foot" of a couple of days ago turns out to be a bone spur on his ankle requiring surgery and his absence for something resembling 6-8 weeks off the beginning of this season. He had 147 ML ABs in 2017 which, added to the Zero he had in 2016 and the 157 from 2015 and that adds up to ... not much. He also only had a couple dozen minor league ABs in '16-'17, and most of that was in the Az Fall Lg

MFS62 Mar 26 2018 02:46 PM Re: MFY 2K18

G-Fafif wrote: Happened to catch the introduction to the afternoon program on WFAN today in which the recorded introduction let us know the broadcast would be coming to us live from "Steinbrenner Stadium" in Tampa. WFAN is the MFYs' flagship radio station. There is no facility called Steinbrenner Stadium. But this is what happens when you have unnatural affiliations. I realize it has been the the MFY's station for a few years, but WFAN was the flagship station of the Mets for so long that now, when I hear John Sterling's voice on it, its like hearing an Ayatollah at a Bar Mitzvah. Later

41Forever Mar 28 2018 06:49 AM Re: MFY 2K18

The MFYs want to ruin your beer. MLB said "no." [url]http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/22936745/mlb-warns-new-york-yankees-beer-foam-art-current-players-league-rules

MFS62 Mar 29 2018 01:47 PM Re: MFY 2K18

How can the MFY game be delayed? They're playing in an f'n DOME. They couldn't fit Michael Kay's head under it? Later

seawolf17 Mar 29 2018 02:18 PM Re: MFY 2K18

Giancarlo Stanton, in his first MFY AB in Toronto, hits the second pitch he sees all the way to Hudson Bay. He's going to hit 90 home runs in Yankee Stadium this year.

Frayed Knot Apr 01 2018 02:36 PM Re: MFY 2K18

Yanx, David Robertson specifically, intentionally walked Josh Donaldson to load the bases w/2 outs in the 8th, opting to face Justin Smoak instead. Probably a defensible move, but Smoak messed it all up by going yard with a Grand Slam. He had also hit a 2R HR in the 7th when the Yanx held a 4-1 lead. 7-4 Jays was your final thanks to the late-game six-run Smoak-Show. Hey, if the Mets are going to suck today then I'm going to revel in Yanqui misery. The two teams wound up splitting the opening four games in Toronto.

Edgy MD Apr 02 2018 09:11 AM Re: MFY 2K18

Yankees lose as Kevin Pillar pulls a Dead Ball Era feat that I had long hoped to see, stealing second, third, and home in the same inning off of Dellin Betances.

41Forever Apr 02 2018 09:30 AM Re: MFY 2K18

MFYs trying to pollute senior centers with their smell, says the Times. In the Bronx, Stadium Scents Take Fans Out to the Ballgame : [url]https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/31/nyregion/in-the-bronx-stadium-scents-take-fans-out-to-the-ballgame.html What does smugness and entitlement smell like?

Benjamin Grimm Apr 02 2018 09:38 AM Re: MFY 2K18

41Forever wrote: What does smugness and entitlement smell like?

MFS62 Apr 02 2018 09:48 AM Re: MFY 2K18

MFYs trying to pollute senior centers with their smell, says the Times. In the Bronx, Stadium Scents Take Fans Out to the Ballgame : [url]https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/31/nyregion/in-the-bronx-stadium-scents-take-fans-out-to-the-ballgame.html What does smugness and entitlement smell like? This "Older Jewish fan" remembers. If you were a kid with dark skin or wearing a yarmulke the guards at the original YS wouldn't let you go down to better seats toward the end of a game, even in a mostly emptied out ballpark. Yet they always seemed to be looking the other way when other kids did it. And it happened way more then once. And that's part of the reason why I rooted for Brooklyn. Maybe they're finally trying to atone. Later

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 02 2018 10:25 AM Re: MFY 2K18

Snowed out opener

Centerfield Apr 06 2018 10:47 PM Re: MFY 2K18

Lolol. Alvarez grand slam drops the MFYs in 14. Like I said all winter long, the Mets are going to kick ass in’18 while the Yankees will be lucky to finish .500.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 06 2018 10:54 PM Re: MFY 2K18

That was great. Yankees should have win in 11 but an incredible play and a dumb slide prevented it

MFS62 Apr 07 2018 05:06 AM Re: MFY 2K18

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: That was great. Yankees should have win in 11 but an incredible play and a dumb slide prevented it I never thought the Os would come back and win once the MFYs tied the game at 3-3. Against Chapman (8th or 9th inning) with two runners on base, the two players who batted looked like Morty and Ferdie, your neighborhood pizza delivery guys. Later

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 08 2018 04:24 PM Re: MFY 2K18

MFYs knocked out the O's starter Wright in the first inning and led 5-0, but just lost 8-7 in 12 innings, so the O's took 3 of 4 at MFY Stadium. The Yanks loaded the bases on 2 walks and a misplayed sac bunt in the 12th, so had bases loaded, no out and Judge and Stanton due up. Judge 1-2-5 DP, Stanton (0-7) whiffed for the 5th time in the game to end it.

Frayed Knot Apr 08 2018 04:32 PM Re: MFY 2K18 Edited 4 time(s), most recently on Apr 08 2018 04:52 PM

Once I saw the early score (5-2 in the 4th when I first checked) I just wrote this one off, honed in on the golf, and never checked back. Just seeing the result here for the first time. oe: And while it's probably too early to be playing scoreboard in the AL East, at the same time I was ignoring the Yanx I was also ignoring the Sawx/Rays game after briefly peeking in on it (MLBN) Boston was down 7-2 in the 7th before getting six straight 2-out hits in the 8th [Double - Single - Double - Single - Wild Pitch - Double - Single] then shut the door in Top-9 to win 8-7 That opens up a 3.5 game gap after less than two weeks: Yanx [5-5] -- Sawx [8-1]. Again, it's too early for all this but ... just sayin'. On further edit, I'd be remiss if I didn't emphasize HOLY SHIT!!!! to this: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: The Yanks loaded the bases on 2 walks and a misplayed sac bunt in the 12th, so had bases loaded, no out and Judge and Stanton due up. Judge 1-2-5 DP, Stanton (0-7) whiffed for the 5th time in the game to end it. I mean, blowing the initial lead is bad enough, but then to have an almost guaranteed tie at worst, and a win likely, slip away in that fashion ... well, all I can say is, HOLY SHIT!!!!

Edgy MD Apr 08 2018 04:35 PM Re: MFY 2K18

Hubba, hubba!

MFS62 Apr 08 2018 06:35 PM Re: MFY 2K18

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: The Yanks loaded the bases on 2 walks and a misplayed sac bunt in the 12th, so had bases loaded, no out and Judge and Stanton due up. Judge 1-2-5 DP, Stanton (0-7) whiffed for the 5th time in the game to end it. Has anybody [crossout]wanted[/crossout] tried to revive Suzyn Waldman yet? Later

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 08 2018 06:48 PM Re: MFY 2K18

I'm embarrassed by this Conforto blow-around

Fman99 Apr 08 2018 07:27 PM Re: MFY 2K18

MFS62 wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: The Yanks loaded the bases on 2 walks and a misplayed sac bunt in the 12th, so had bases loaded, no out and Judge and Stanton due up. Judge 1-2-5 DP, Stanton (0-7) whiffed for the 5th time in the game to end it. Has anybody [crossout]wanted[/crossout] tried to revive Suzyn Waldman yet? Later I know JUST what to get her engine revving again.

Nymr83 Apr 08 2018 08:06 PM Re: MFY 2K18

Oh my goodness gracious!

Ceetar Apr 09 2018 09:17 AM Re: MFY 2K18

So the Yankees Many salivated over the home run totals. Preaching Maris and Mantle, shattering records. The team record seemed almost a given. (they're well short to date) They play in a tiny park. One home run wins an extra inning game at home. the Orioles are not good. The ball is juiced. It's a historic home run era. It's almost impossible to lose two extra inning games like that right? With 10 last-licks?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 09 2018 09:34 AM Re: MFY 2K18

Incredibly difficult. They could have played that Friday game 100 times and won it 99 of them just on all the ways this could have gone wrong. https://www.mlb.com/orioles/video/oriol ... 1911568483 On top of all that they lost CC (hip), Sanchez (calf) and Drury (migraines) to injury.

Centerfield Apr 09 2018 11:00 AM Re: MFY 2K18

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: MFYs knocked out the O's starter Wright in the first inning and led 5-0, but just lost 8-7 in 12 innings, so the O's took 3 of 4 at MFY Stadium. The Yanks loaded the bases on 2 walks and a misplayed sac bunt in the 12th, so had bases loaded, no out and Judge and Stanton due up. Judge 1-2-5 DP, Stanton (0-7) whiffed for the 5th time in the game to end it. Is this really what happened? LOLOLOL.

Lefty Specialist Apr 09 2018 12:17 PM Re: MFY 2K18

Lotta Yankee fans grumbling in their Maypo this morning. Wonder if they've started an Aaron Boone Hot Seat watch.

Centerfield Apr 09 2018 12:31 PM Re: MFY 2K18

They should really trade Stanton to us, pay his salary and take Jay Bruce. Jay strikes out less.

bmfc1 May 14 2018 12:47 PM Re: MFY 2K18

Dammit MFYs, stop being classy: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/14/spor ... ctionfront

HahnSolo May 14 2018 01:18 PM Re: MFY 2K18

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: MFYs knocked out the O's starter Wright in the first inning and led 5-0, but just lost 8-7 in 12 innings, so the O's took 3 of 4 at MFY Stadium. As of today, May 14, these are still the only three road wins Baltimore has for the season.

MFS62 May 28 2018 05:16 PM Re: MFY 2K18

Rudy Guiliani showed up at YS III today. Its his birthday. He got booed. Later

Rockin' Doc May 28 2018 05:58 PM Re: MFY 2K18

MFS62 wrote: Rudy Guiliani showed up at YS III today. Its his birthday. He got booed. I've never felt empathy with Yankee fans before.

Centerfield May 28 2018 07:49 PM Re: MFY 2K18

Agreed. Just goes to show you that there are things all of us can agree on.

Edgy MD May 28 2018 08:07 PM Re: MFY 2K18

Well, I'm a fan. [tweet:3m1cugqh]https://twitter.com/the_irishpsycho/status/1001209207184556032[/tweet:3m1cugqh]

Nymr83 May 28 2018 08:49 PM Re: MFY 2K18

Rockin' Doc wrote: MFS62 wrote: Rudy Guiliani showed up at YS III today. Its his birthday. He got booed. I've never felt empathy with Yankee fans before. Assholes, he gift wrapped that stadium for them.

Edgy MD Jun 05 2018 07:35 AM Re: MFY 2K18

Aaron Judge, batted nine times in yesterday's doubleheader, and struck out eight.

Ceetar Jun 12 2018 02:39 PM Re: MFY 2K18

Yankees are starting a 23 year old prospect with only 25 IP above A, with a 4.32 ERA in AA this season on Thursday. Yeah, it's the Rays, but like.. that's their best option? And they didn't want Matt Harvey?

Edgy MD Jun 12 2018 03:15 PM Re: MFY 2K18

Maybe they did, but didn't offer any compensation up to the Mesoraco level. Or maybe they did offer talent that was just as good or better, but the Mets were hesitant, thinking that if Harvey found his way back to his north star, they didn't want him doing it cross-town. I'm sure they'd've overpaid for top shelf Matt Harvey. Anyhow, the Mets needed a catcher and got one.

Ceetar Jun 13 2018 07:23 AM Re: MFY 2K18

Edgy MD wrote: Maybe they did, but didn't offer any compensation up to the Mesoraco level. Or maybe they did offer talent that was just as good or better, but the Mets were hesitant, thinking that if Harvey found his way back to his north star, they didn't want him doing it cross-town. I'm sure they'd've overpaid for top shelf Matt Harvey. Anyhow, the Mets needed a catcher and got one. well sure, but this is the Yankees thread and I wanted to throw out a little ribbing. It'd be really fun to see them go on a 20-40 slide where they lose a bunch of games 9-6.

Centerfield Jun 13 2018 07:29 AM Re: MFY 2K18

Ceetar wrote: Edgy MD wrote: Maybe they did, but didn't offer any compensation up to the Mesoraco level. Or maybe they did offer talent that was just as good or better, but the Mets were hesitant, thinking that if Harvey found his way back to his north star, they didn't want him doing it cross-town. I'm sure they'd've overpaid for top shelf Matt Harvey. Anyhow, the Mets needed a catcher and got one. well sure, but this is the Yankees thread and I wanted to throw out a little ribbing. It'd be really fun to see them go on a 20-40 slide where they lose a bunch of games 9-6. In other words, you'd like to see them play at a slightly better pace than the Mets have been over their last 53 games?

Ceetar Jun 13 2018 07:32 AM Re: MFY 2K18

sure.

Frayed Knot Jul 01 2018 06:40 PM Re: MFY 2K18

This just in: David Price suxx vs the Yanquis. Or, should I say, he STILL suxx vs the Yanquis because he always has, whether with the Rays, Tigers, Tononto, or now the Sox. Career = 39 starts; 15-12; 4.67 ERA (vs 3.24 overall); 1.39 WHiP (1.15); 9.64 H/9 (0.89) Tonight: [crossout]4 runs in the 1st inning incl. 2 HRs and a 2B[/crossout] [crossout]on edit: 6 runs / 2 innings / 3 HRs[/crossout] =#0000FF]on re-edit: 8 Runs / 3.1 IP / 5 HR So now, after looking forward to this game all week, ESPN can't wait to dump out of it in order to get to their endless LeBron discussions.

MFS62 Jul 02 2018 06:11 AM Re: MFY 2K18

Frayed Knot wrote: This just in: David Price suxx vs the Yanquis. Or, should I say, he STILL suxx vs the Yanquis because he always has, whether with the Rays, Tigers, Tononto, or now the Sox. Career = 39 starts; 15-12; 4.67 ERA (vs 3.24 overall); 1.39 WHiP (1.15); 9.64 H/9 (0.89) Tonight: [crossout]4 runs in the 1st inning incl. 2 HRs and a 2B[/crossout] [crossout]on edit: 6 runs / 2 innings / 3 HRs[/crossout] =#0000FF]on re-edit: 8 Runs / 3.1 IP / 5 HR So now, after looking forward to this game all week, ESPN can't wait to dump out of it in order to get to their endless LeBron discussions. Joe Beningo (WFAN) was joking about this before the series. He wondered what "minor injury" (hangnail?) Price would claim so he wouldn't have to face the MFYs. Maybe Price should have done that. Later

MFS62 Jul 07 2018 06:41 PM Re: MFY 2K18

They really are easy to root against. https://sports.yahoo.com/m/6170ef1a-d63 ... et-to.html Later

d'Kong76 Jul 31 2018 04:26 PM Re: MFY 2K18

J A Happ, another victim of the hoof and mouth disease in NYC thing.

Edgy MD Jul 31 2018 08:28 PM Re: MFY 2K18

Maybe that's how the world ends. We all catch a dose of some new super-virulent strain and die laughing at the word "coxsackie."

HahnSolo Aug 01 2018 04:32 PM Re: MFY 2K18

O’s knock off Sonny Gray today. Stuff that (probably) only I find fascinating: Baltimore has only won 13 games away from Camden Yards all season. 6 of those have come within the New York City limits.

bmfc1 Aug 02 2018 02:37 PM Re: MFY 2K18

Gray to the bullpen. How about Vargas for Gray?

d'Kong76 Aug 02 2018 02:53 PM Re: MFY 2K18

I'm ok with Sterls, it's the other one that drives me bananas. A friend of mine when he gets on a roll does a funny impersonation/over-characterization of her proclaiming on-the-air that Roger Clemens is in George Steinbrenner's box.

d'Kong76 Aug 02 2018 02:54 PM Re: MFY 2K18

I thought I was responding to a post that has now disappeared.

metirish Aug 03 2018 07:41 AM Re: MFY 2K18

So, last night I tuned into YES to watch some of this, when I first tuned in the MFY were winning, then tuned back later they were getting hammered. Kay, Cone and O'Neill in the booth....have to say Kay was quite good , especially in questioning Boone's moves....he was let down by Cone and O'Neill who never jumped in when he brought up these "questions" Boone would need to answer after the game.

Lefty Specialist Aug 03 2018 08:27 AM Re: MFY 2K18

Yeah, I actually tuned in just in time to see that 8-run inning. It was quite refreshing to see a team playing winning baseball (and beating the crap out of the Yankees).

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 03 2018 08:29 AM Re: MFY 2K18

It's rapidly gone all wrong for the MFYs, not only missing Judge & Sanchez, but their trade deadline moves have blown up spectacularly. They arrogantly swapped Warren for International Bonus Money, but IBM was unable to provide middle-relief last night. And the same day they banish Gray to the bullpen looks like they need to re-activate him to start. Beyond that they are fielding indifferently and Severino has pitched like Steven Matz lately. Rooting for them to miss the playoffs entirely.

Frayed Knot Aug 03 2018 02:59 PM Re: MFY 2K18

With their pitching in flux the Yanx are taking a chance on Adams, that would be right-hander Chance Adams who'll be making his ML debut in Fenway on Saturday. The 5th round/2015 draft pick was a back of the top-100 prospect prior to this season, but his 2018 has seen a step back for the 24 y/o (next week) from the 2017 stats that got his there [2.64 ERA in '17, 4.65 in '18] so these aren't exactly the ideal circumstances the team would draw up for his first game. But with the sun setting on Sonny Gray, and agent Syndergaard managing to secretly infect Jay Ay Happ after just one outing, and new pick-up Lancelot Lynn having to finish Gray's lone MFY start, and Sabathia lasting just 3 innings (77! pitches) on Thursday, they don't really have a lot of options.

MFS62 Aug 05 2018 06:45 AM Re: MFY 2K18

Andujar's home run that broke up the no-hitter made at least one Rex Sox fan happy - $100 million worth of happy. https://www.yahoo.com/news/yankees-thir ... 41357.html Later

Frayed Knot Aug 05 2018 07:42 PM Re: MFY 2K18

Much has been made of the Yanx & Sawx having two of their final four series against each other after this one concludes in Fenway tonight (currently scoreless in the 4th) but much less has been made of the sked the Yanx have coming up over the remainder of August CHW x 3 (currently 30 games below .500) TEX x 4 (-14) NYM x1 (rainout makeup) (-19) TBR x 3 (right at .500) TOR x 3 (-8) MIA x 2 (-20) BAL x 4 (-45)!! CHW again x 3 (-30) DET x 3 (-17) Starting Sept 3rd (Labor Day) they then head to the west coast to see if they can muck up the West race by playing both Oakland & Seattle But with that schedule for the next 26 games, the BoSox can't feel all that comfortable even as they're on pace for a 112 win season and will have either a 7.5 or 9.5 game lead in the East (depending on tonight's game)

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 06 2018 05:31 AM Re: MFY 2K18

Well that was a humiliating sweep: Chapman coughs up a 4-1 lead in the 9th and they loose it in the 10th. They shant recover.

Edgy MD Aug 06 2018 06:26 AM Re: MFY 2K18

It's the hand, foot, and mouth disease. One guy catches it, and it mutates into a virus of chumpism that sweeps the clubhouse.

Lefty Specialist Aug 06 2018 06:47 AM Re: MFY 2K18

Boy, I'm reduced to cheering on the Red Sox to humiliate the Yankees. Guess it'll have to do this year. Also root for the Mariners and A's to pass them in the wild card standings.

MFS62 Aug 06 2018 07:49 AM Re: MFY 2K18

I just sent a picture of a broom to a virulent YLDB who liked to tease me about the Mets when we worked together. She has since moved to north-central Connecticut, right near the Mass. line. So I also asked her how much she likes watching sports news as covered by stations in Sawks country. I'll enjoy her answer. Schadenfreude, baby. Later

Mets Willets Point Aug 06 2018 08:34 AM Re: MFY 2K18

If the Yankees continue on their current pace and finish with 100+ wins, the single game Wild Card Playoff will be gone in the 2019 season. Forcing a 100+ win team to participate in a play-in game is dumb enough, but if it happens to one of MLB's preferred glamour franchises, it will never happen again.

Ceetar Aug 06 2018 08:38 AM Re: MFY 2K18

Mets Willets Point wrote: If the Yankees continue on their current pace and finish with 100+ wins, the single game Wild Card Playoff will be gone in the 2019 season. Forcing a 100+ win team to participate in a play-in game is dumb enough, but if it happens to one of MLB's preferred glamour franchises, it will never happen again. A. They won't. B. It won't. C. It's not. D. It may not happen again anyway, just by dumb luck, plus expansion of teams/playoffs could render it even more unlikely. It's a shame the Mariners are still 5 out and not that good (though getting Cano back) because that's still a lot of ground to make up. On the other hand, there's a lot of time left. But that's the only possibility here unfortunately. the rest of the AL sucks.

Mets Willets Point Aug 06 2018 08:53 AM Re: MFY 2K18

Ceetar wrote: C. It's not The way the Wild Card playoff is done now rewards mediocrity (giving a bye to one or two teams that "won" a weak division) while punishing excellence over the course of a 162-game season. How is that smart? A smart way to fix the playoff system to reward excellence: 1. Seed the five teams by regular season record. 2. The #1 seed is given the pennant as an award for best record in the league much as was done prior to 1969. 3. The #1 seed gets a bye to the LCS. 4. The remaining 4 seeds play two qualifying rounds in best-of-3 series, hosted in the higher seed's ballpark.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 06 2018 08:58 AM Re: MFY 2K18

Mariners overtaking MFYs would also indicate pressure on A's so the MFYs are pretty set, unless this shit pace continues and it well might. They don't have good starting pitching and their flaws (Andujar/Sanchez gloves, Judge health, Chapman was even shaky vs. us) keep getting exposed. l am on Team Oakland, would be cool if they catch arrogant Houston, which may also have lost George Springer, so Houston would oppose the MFYs in the 1-gamer.

Ceetar Aug 06 2018 09:06 AM Re: MFY 2K18

Mets Willets Point wrote: C. It's not The way the Wild Card playoff is done now rewards mediocrity (giving a bye to one or two teams that "won" a weak division) while punishing excellence over the course of a 162-game season. How is that smart? A smart way to fix the playoff system to reward excellence: 1. Seed the five teams by regular season record. 2. The #1 seed is given the pennant as an award for best record in the league much as was done prior to 1969. 3. The #1 seed gets a bye to the LCS. 4. The remaining 4 seeds play two qualifying rounds in best-of-3 series, hosted in the higher seed's ballpark. I think you're math is off, but either way that's too much time off for the best teams. There is no 'best' way to do the playoffs. There's not even a great way to decide who's the "best" team given there's so much variation from April to September and there isn't a balanced schedule and even if everyone played the same teams you'd still have the unbalanced aspect of how different an opponent could be if you play them in April versus September. Or one team could end up facing 1-2-3 in the rotation but their main competition could end up facing 3-4-5. So you have to make a decision. MLB decided 'win the division' is what we're going for, so regardless of how many wins you rack up, if you don't that you're not the best. This system doesn't punish the best team, and that's good with me.

smg58 Aug 06 2018 09:10 AM Re: MFY 2K18

It wasn't that long ago that teams could win 100 games and not have any postseason. Divisions are perceived as building rivalries, which is perceived as being good for fan interest, so I don't see that changing. The current wildcard format was put in so that winning the division became more meaningful (i.e., the Sox sweeping the Yankees would be a lot less of a big deal in the previous format than it currently is). I didn't think anybody who isn't a Yankee fan thinks the current system is unfair, and of course Yankee fans wouldn't feel that way at all if they were the ones pulling away. At any rate, it would serve the best interests of competitive balance (and, of course, humanity in general) if the Yankees played only one playoff game.

Benjamin Grimm Aug 06 2018 09:13 AM Re: MFY 2K18

I'm not a Yankee fan and I don't like the current system. I don't like that it potentially rewards a mediocre team. You can have a third-place team that had 83 wins win one game over a 100-win team and end up in the World Series. I understand rewarding a division winner. But I'd have the Wild Card game become a best-of-three series. And you can play those games in two days. Using 2016 as an example, Game 1 could have been in San Francisco on Tuesday and Games 2 and 3 (if necessary) as part of a day-night doubleheader at Citi Field. Is that a grueling schedule? Sure, but it's equally grueling for both teams and it makes it all the more onerous for the teams that didn't win the division.

Centerfield Aug 06 2018 09:25 AM Re: MFY 2K18

smg58 wrote: It wasn't that long ago that teams could win 100 games and not have any postseason. Divisions are perceived as building rivalries, which is perceived as being good for fan interest, so I don't see that changing. The current wildcard format was put in so that winning the division became more meaningful (i.e., the Sox sweeping the Yankees would be a lot less of a big deal in the previous format than it currently is). I didn't think anybody who isn't a Yankee fan thinks the current system is unfair, and of course Yankee fans wouldn't feel that way at all if they were the ones pulling away. At any rate, it would serve the best interests of competitive balance (and, of course, humanity in general) if the Yankees played only one playoff game. I'm on board with this too. I think winning your division has been and always should be the central aim of the regular season, and this current system fosters it. Don't want to play a 1 game playoff? Then win your division. That being said, I do understand where the Red Sox fan feels shafted. In the past 20 seasons, Boston has won 90+ games 14 times, and has only 5 division titles to show for it. People talk about re-alignment. And let me say, thank god these two teams play in the AL. If the Mets shared a division with these two teams they would never win it. I mean, they don't win very often now as it is, but with these two powerhouses, I think you could kiss any wildcard goodbye as well.

Ceetar Aug 06 2018 09:55 AM Re: MFY 2K18

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I'm not a Yankee fan and I don't like the current system. I don't like that it potentially rewards a mediocre team. You can have a third-place team that had 83 wins win one game over a 100-win team and end up in the World Series. I understand rewarding a division winner. But I'd have the Wild Card game become a best-of-three series. And you can play those games in two days. Using 2016 as an example, Game 1 could have been in San Francisco on Tuesday and Games 2 and 3 (if necessary) as part of a day-night doubleheader at Citi Field. Is that a grueling schedule? Sure, but it's equally grueling for both teams and it makes it all the more onerous for the teams that didn't win the division. So an 83 win team winning TWO games over a 100 win team makes it better? the 2018 Mets, pitching Syndergaard and deGrom, could easily win a best of three against anyone.

Benjamin Grimm Aug 06 2018 09:58 AM Re: MFY 2K18

Yes, it makes it better, because it makes it more unlikely. And I haven't seen any evidence that the 2018 Mets can "easily" win a best of three against anyone at all.

HahnSolo Aug 06 2018 10:14 AM Re: MFY 2K18

I do feel that once the wild card game has been settled that the #1 seed should play the remaining team with the worst record, whether that is a division winner or wild card. In this instance* the Sox would be in line to face the Indians in the best of 5 rather than the MFYs. *if playoffs started today

Vic Sage Aug 06 2018 10:29 AM Re: MFY 2K18

first, it was all about winning the pennant. There was no WS and no sympathy for 2nd place. Then, it was win the pennant to get into the WS. There was no discussion of fairness, if one pennant winner wasn't as good as the 2nd place team in the other league. Then, because of expansion, the leagues were divided into divisions. So it was win the division to win the pennant to win the WS. But this is when the whining really started. Since teams weren't playing against other teams the same number of games, there were teams in some divisions who were playing more of their games against stronger teams than other division winners. "wah!" they cried. So the Mets won 90 games in `84 and 98 games in `85, and didn't make the playoffs because St.L won the division. I don't remember crying that we should have been in the playoffs anyway. I remember crying, but not about that. But the crying was getting so loud, they designated a "wild card" team, and, for the first time, you didn't have to win anything to make the playoffs. Now we were on the road to being like every other watered down league, where the regular season becomes less and less important, because everybody gets into the post-season. But when WC teams started winning pennants and the WS, they finally realized that there should be at least SOME penalty for not winning anything. So, they added a 2nd WC team but made them play the 1-game playoff, thus requiring the WCs to burn their best starters and be subject to some degree of random chance, making the division title even more important. And this year, it might actually work! If the Yanks don't overtake the Sox, it's their own fault. And now the cries continue. "wah, it's not fair! It should be a best-of-3 series!" Well how about 3/5, or 4/7? Whats the perfect number that maintains the importance and integrity of the regular season, but allows JUST the extra good teams into the playoffs, despite not winning a title? No WC team is ENTITLED to be in the post-season... the WC is a gift! a compromise that we weren't entitled to in 84 and 85. Why do we have to make it even easier for them to advance? Because its not fair? It's not fair that they're even getting one fucking game and you want to give them more? Fuck the Yankees. In fact, i think we should go back to 1 division per league and you either win the fucking pennant or you go the fuck home. But that's just me.

Ceetar Aug 06 2018 11:53 AM Re: MFY 2K18

The playoffs are not the regular season and not meant to be an accurate representation of the 'best team' despite the marketing. It's just a tournament that you need to win to get ultimate glory, but the glory of being a dominate team all season and taking your shot in that tournament is itself a victory and glory all it's own. 2006 was a great Mets year. so was 2015, and even 2016. They didn't start letting more teams in for consolation, they let them in 'cause the playoffs were awesome. because they were growing the game. Playoff baseball is fun, and ranking teams by regular season win totals is silly anyway. What if you acquire studs midseason? what if you bring up prospects and they flourish? If one team starts 0-20, but goes 88-54 the rest of the way, whereas another team goes 20-0, but 75-67, why would we rather see the 95 win team over the 88? Some day down the road we're gonna get a meh 78 win team that just got hot near the end, squeaks into the second wildcard spot in the eastern conference, wins the 1 game playoff, wins the 7 game series against the 101 team #1 seed, beats someone else great in the NLCS, and goes to the World Series and wins it all. And it'll be fun. They'll be playing great, doing all the things great teams do. It might not be a true representation of their 162 game talent, but who cares? that's arbitrary.

Edgy MD Aug 07 2018 09:53 AM Re: MFY 2K18

The beast is turning on itself, with the Yankees airing family business in public. [tweet:3ccr5f4q]https://twitter.com/clintfrazier/status/1026672544475242496[/tweet:3ccr5f4q]

smg58 Aug 07 2018 12:01 PM Re: MFY 2K18

Ceetar wrote: Some day down the road we're gonna get a meh 78 win team that just got hot near the end, squeaks into the second wildcard spot in the eastern conference, wins the 1 game playoff, wins the 7 game series against the 101 team #1 seed, beats someone else great in the NLCS, and goes to the World Series and wins it all. And it'll be fun. They'll be playing great, doing all the things great teams do. It might not be a true representation of their 162 game talent, but who cares? that's arbitrary. The 1973 Mets mostly did just that.

Ceetar Aug 07 2018 12:06 PM Re: MFY 2K18

smg58 wrote: Ceetar wrote: Some day down the road we're gonna get a meh 78 win team that just got hot near the end, squeaks into the second wildcard spot in the eastern conference, wins the 1 game playoff, wins the 7 game series against the 101 team #1 seed, beats someone else great in the NLCS, and goes to the World Series and wins it all. And it'll be fun. They'll be playing great, doing all the things great teams do. It might not be a true representation of their 162 game talent, but who cares? that's arbitrary. The 1973 Mets mostly did just that. Yup. I assume they were a hell of lot of fun to watch down the stretch. 20-8 in Sept-Oct, a competitive series against the Reds all the way to game 7 of the Series. Star power too.

smg58 Aug 07 2018 12:08 PM Re: MFY 2K18

On the mildly annoying front, after not finishing seven innings once for the Twins, Lance Lynn goes 7.1 shutout innings in his first Yankee start. Yankees pitching coach: "You see Lance, they key is to throw more strikes." Lance Lynn: "Wow, strikes? Why didn't I think of that before?"

Ceetar Aug 07 2018 12:09 PM Re: MFY 2K18

more topically, Ellsbury to have hip surgery to repair the torn labrum. (6 months puts him to the start of Spring Training basically.) Will be his age 35 season and he is still owed $47 million. (2 years plus a $5 option buyout) He's been average at best with most of his value coming on defense. Best case is ~18 months since his last major league game if he's ready to go in 2019.

Frayed Knot Aug 07 2018 01:20 PM Re: MFY 2K18

Ellsbury, btw, has not played the entire season but is just NOW having the surgery which will keep him out for the rest of the year and maybe into next. Not that it matters really as the Yanx are at least as good without him and maybe better. They've gotten much more out of Hicks so I suspect they neither care a whit nor give a shit. The next two years, however, are a problem. I would have guessed that this was his final year but, Noooooo, only the 5th of 7 (plus the option) as it turns out. Turns out that $153 million just doesn't but what it used to. That's something I've noticed on my own when shopping at Target. I used to be able to get a lot of stuff for that kind of scratch but, these days, not so much.

Edgy MD Aug 07 2018 01:29 PM Re: MFY 2K18

I have trouble fully accepting the idea that grownups with billion-dollar assets behave this way, but I sometimes tend to think the Yankees tack a premium on their offers when they're trying to sign a marquee free agent away from Boston.

Ceetar Aug 07 2018 01:56 PM Re: MFY 2K18

Edgy MD wrote: I have trouble fully accepting the idea that grownups with billion-dollar assets behave this way, but I sometimes tend to think the Yankees tack a premium on their offers when they're trying to sign a marquee free agent away from Boston. I mean, that does make a little sense, if you think it's likely he'll return there. If gaining value from a player decreases it from your chief rival, than maybe it widens the gap more than normal...... ...until you're stuck overpaying for guys and the opponent is free to sign someone else at market rates.

Frayed Knot Aug 07 2018 02:56 PM Re: MFY 2K18

Signing a guy for the sole purpose of keeping him away from a rival is a really bad idea. Spending $150 million or so for that reason simply makes it worse.

smg58 Aug 07 2018 05:21 PM Re: MFY 2K18

But I bet they have an insurance policy on Ellsbury, too.

Edgy MD Aug 07 2018 05:32 PM Re: MFY 2K18

Insurance policies have supposedly become pretty rare in recent years.

Frayed Knot Aug 07 2018 05:37 PM Re: MFY 2K18

Sure [responding to smg58] but of course that's an expense above and beyond the 150-whatever million $ salary cost and those policies vary on what they cover and how much they reimburse. And still the larger point: that signing a 30 y/o speed guy to a 7/8 year top-dollar contract is rarely a good idea even if you're NOT just doing it to screw your rival, and especially so when it involves a player with as many missed/partial seasons on his resume during his twenties [18 games played in 2010; 73 in 2012] as good seasons [oWAR = 7.5 & 4.2 in 2011 & 2013].

Mets Willets Point Aug 07 2018 08:02 PM Re: MFY 2K18

See, I see things differently from a lot of you. You see winning DIVISIONS as important. But a division is an arbitrary collection of teams, and often four of them are shitty and the one remaining emerges as "the best." I see winning GAMES as important. The 162 game schedule is the longest season in all of team sports and winning lots of GAME is a remarkable achievement. The reason why so many "Wild Card" teams have been successful in the postseason is because they are often much better than than the shitty teams that win shitty divisions. I think a team that wins more games against all 14 league foes and some number of interleague matchups should be recognized as a great accomplishment that just being the best team of five. And the best team of all in each league should get a bye to the LCS and watch the rest of the pretenders beat the fuck out of one another for a week.

Frayed Knot Aug 08 2018 08:34 AM Re: MFY 2K18 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 08 2018 11:25 AM

You see winning DIVISIONS as important. But a division is an arbitrary collection of teams, and often four of them are shitty and the one remaining emerges as "the best." Which is why larger divisions are better than smaller and why I cringe every time someone wants to "fix" MLB by expanding to 32 teams and then dividing them into eight four-team divisions. But if you're going to advocate for a system that ignores division winners then I think you just need to get rid of the divisions. Right now they serve to promote regional rivalries and make some form of sanity out of scheduling and travel. Scrapping that leaves you with a single 15-team league which plays all year to determine the best team only, assuming we're going with the five teams off the top model, to follow it with a series of short series which purports to then determine who's really the best, larger sample size be damned. At least the current system determines different winners of different sub-prizes even if, in some years, some are more equal than others. The problem is that American sports is kind of caught in the middle: EPL during the season followed by a kind of FA Cup at the end. You could advocate going back to a WS-only format as existed for nearly seven decades but no one is going to try and stuff that genie back into the bottle even if there weren't twice as many team as there used to be.

Centerfield Aug 08 2018 08:37 AM Re: MFY 2K18

Agreed. No one is going to give up the revenue generated by more post-season games, even if it means that the WS Champ is more a function of luck rather than merit.

Edgy MD Aug 08 2018 09:34 AM Re: MFY 2K18

If they'd put away what they think they know, go to a quiet place, and open the eyes of their minds, they'd see that the revenue can be more than made up for with cup play and with the sudden increased relevance of every game of the season, even for bottom feeders.

Frayed Knot Aug 11 2018 04:37 PM Re: MFY 2K18

After a win this afternoon (Sat), the Yanx are now 5-1 through the early stages of their dregs of the AL (and sometimes NL) tour ... CHW x 3 (3-0) TEX x 4 (2-1) NYM x1 TBR x 3 TOR x 3 MIA x 2 BAL x 4 CHW again x 3 DET x 3 ... a stretch which will likely go a long way towards ensuring them one of the WC slots. But they've still got to be at least a wee bit worried about Aroldis Chapman. Starting back with his near-blown game vs us back on 7/21 [3 walks, pulled from the game] he now has issued 10 BBs (plus 2 HBP) over his 7 appearances/6 innings starting that night while needing an average of over 26 pitches to get through a typical inning (average ~15). His famed velocity also seems to be down. Today he again got away with loading the bases although this time he was able to protect the two-run lead on his own [Walk, K, Single, Pop-out, HBP, K] Also didn't help matters that, after trade deadline pick-up Zach Britton got the first two outs in the 7th, he proceeded to allow the Rangers to tie the game by going: Single, Single, Walk, Walk, Balk (the Balk was Bettances) and had to be pulled without ever finishing the inning.

bmfc1 Aug 16 2018 11:11 AM Re: MFY 2K18

MFND? https://thebiglead.com/2018/08/16/notre ... -uniforms/

MFS62 Aug 18 2018 04:13 PM Re: MFY 2K18

They had an old timer's day of sorts to celebrate the 20th anniversary of their "great 1988 team". (I'll pause while you barf) Two folks on that team were absent. Derek F'n Jeter sent a message that he couldn't attend because he wanted to be there at his daughter's first birthday party. (I gotta' give him that one.) Joe Girardi (a reserve catcher on that team) was sent several invitations, and turned them all down. Tee hee Later

Frayed Knot Aug 22 2018 07:41 AM Re: MFY 2K18

CHW x 3 (3-0) TEX x 4 (2-1) NYM x1 (0-1) yeah baby TBR x 3 (1-2) TOR x 3 (3-0) MIA x 2 (1-0) BAL x 4 CHW again x 3 DET x 3 Yanx now 11-4 on their trip through their sisters of the poor tour following their 12th inning win last night in Miami On the other hand, Dee Dee Gregorius was just DL'd with a heel problem (awkward landing on 1st base -- Gleyber Torres playing SS for now) and Aroldis Chapman left last night's game with "recurring knee problems" after facing just one batter and walking him on five pitches. But they have a 3.5 game lead on HOU/OAK for the 1st WC who are in turn 4.0 games up on fading Seattle, so there's virtually no chance of them NOT making it to the one-game WC matchup.

Centerfield Aug 22 2018 08:38 AM Re: MFY 2K18

When I saw this reply I was hoping to hear that the Marlins had won this game. Annoying. I still their 22 game losing streak in September will drop them out of the playoffs completely.

MFS62 Aug 22 2018 08:53 AM Re: MFY 2K18

Centerfield wrote: When I saw this reply I was hoping to hear that the Marlins had won this game. Annoying. I still their 22 game losing streak in September will drop them out of the playoffs completely. Miami had the bases loaded and nobody out in extras and the MFYs played the shift. Not one of the next three batters either tried to hit the other way or even bunt. And the announcers said one of those batters, while hitting around .160, had "great speed". Naturally, he swung from the heels. The second out of the inning was a nice play be Torres. He backhanded a grounder and made a quick sidearm throw to the plate to nail the runner. They did not score. Yech! Later

seawolf17 Aug 22 2018 11:30 AM Re: MFY 2K18

MFS62 wrote: Centerfield wrote: When I saw this reply I was hoping to hear that the Marlins had won this game. Annoying. I still their 22 game losing streak in September will drop them out of the playoffs completely. Miami had the bases loaded and nobody out in extras and the MFYs played the shift. Not one of the next three batters either tried to hit the other way or even bunt. And the announcers said one of those batters, while hitting around .160, had "great speed". Naturally, he swung from the heels. The second out of the inning was a nice play be Torres. He backhanded a grounder and made a quick sidearm throw to the plate to nail the runner. They did not score. Yech! Later It's almost as though the Marlins' owner called the dugout with a "suggestion" that they not score there.

HahnSolo Aug 22 2018 12:57 PM Re: MFY 2K18

MFS62 wrote: Centerfield wrote: When I saw this reply I was hoping to hear that the Marlins had won this game. Annoying. I still their 22 game losing streak in September will drop them out of the playoffs completely. Miami had the bases loaded and nobody out in extras and the MFYs played the shift. Not one of the next three batters either tried to hit the other way or even bunt. And the announcers said one of those batters, while hitting around .160, had "great speed". Naturally, he swung from the heels. The second out of the inning was a nice play be Torres. He backhanded a grounder and made a quick sidearm throw to the plate to nail the runner. They did not score. Yech! Later Bases loaded, no out, in a tie game in extra innings and they shifted!?!?! Not played infield in, or at least halfway?

Frayed Knot Aug 22 2018 03:01 PM Re: MFY 2K18

Yanqui fans are still mad at Torre for playing the infield in on Luis Gonzalez in a bases loaded/one out situation 17 years ago.

Edgy MD Aug 22 2018 03:09 PM Re: MFY 2K18

Like Jeter would've gotten to that anyhow.

41Forever Sep 08 2018 08:32 AM Re: MFY 2K18

Apparently MFYs don't care about fan safety, tell bicyclists they're not allowed to bring their helmets into the stadium. They ban laptops, too. (Mets allow both) [url]https://nyc.streetsblog.org/2018/09/07/absurd-yankee-stadium-rule-forbids-fans-from-bringing-their-bike-helmets-into-ballpark/

Nymr83 Sep 12 2018 07:39 PM Re: MFY 2K18

Public Service Announcement: MFYs being no-hit through 6 innings by Jake Odorizzi,

Edgy MD Oct 04 2018 10:30 PM Re: MFY 2K18

The Yankees Crossed a Hotel Strike Picket Line in Boston

bmfc1 Oct 05 2018 05:15 AM Re: MFY 2K18

Yankee fan dumps beer on Oakland fan at NMFYS: [tweet:37kkxhji]https://twitter.com/KeithOlbermann/status/1048164261904764938[/tweet:37kkxhji] Oakland figured out who their fan was, via Twitter, and will be sending him new A's gear and inviting him to a home game. I wonder if MFY management is trying to track down the dope that dumped the beer on the guy.

seawolf17 Oct 05 2018 06:45 AM Re: MFY 2K18

bmfc1 wrote: I wonder if MFY management is trying to track down the dope that dumped the beer on the guy. They'll probably retire his number.

Centerfield Oct 05 2018 06:50 AM Re: MFY 2K18

seawolf17 wrote: bmfc1 wrote: I wonder if MFY management is trying to track down the dope that dumped the beer on the guy. They'll probably retire his number. Hey, did anyone see a loud obnoxious douchebag sitting in this area on Wednesday? Anyone? No?

MFS62 Oct 05 2018 07:49 AM Re: MFY 2K18

Centerfield wrote: seawolf17 wrote: bmfc1 wrote: I wonder if MFY management is trying to track down the dope that dumped the beer on the guy. They'll probably retire his number. Hey, did anyone see a loud obnoxious douchebag sitting in this area on Wednesday? Anyone? No? They told the FBI they could only interview three people. Later

Frayed Knot Oct 05 2018 01:33 PM Re: MFY 2K18

Centerfield wrote: seawolf17 wrote: bmfc1 wrote: I wonder if MFY management is trying to track down the dope that dumped the beer on the guy. They'll probably retire his number. Hey, did anyone see a loud obnoxious douchebag sitting in this area on Wednesday? That's like asking someone on a street in Oslo if they've seen any blondes walk by.

Rockin' Doc Oct 07 2018 09:10 PM Re: MFY 2K18

Well, whoever threw the beer wasn't too smart. Those beers are like $12 each. Well, that and they're a Yankee fan so they obviously aren't overly bright.

Frayed Knot Oct 10 2018 06:56 PM Re: MFY 2K18

Ken Davidoff, NYPost: "... the 3.4 offensive WAR [Stanton] put up for the Yankees this season, as per BB-Ref, put him on par with the Marlins’ Starlin Castro, one of the players the Yankees traded for him ... and that value ranked smack in the middle — four years better, four years worse — for Stanton’s career. iow, it's not like they can claim he underperformed for them (except for those who believe that putting on the pinstripes is supposed to add 150 points to one's OPS). On the contrary, he gave them right about what they should expect and, unlike much of GS's career so far, he went uninjured in this one and was available for every game this season. But, hey, at least he paid off in defensive value ... Oh wait, it's Castro who's the middle infielder while Stanton DH'd more than half the season and did so almost exclusively down the stretch and into the playoffs. Oh well, they only owe $239 million more (give or take) thru 2027/28 to the guy who turns 29 in a few weeks.

Edgy MD Oct 11 2018 07:32 AM Re: MFY 2K18

Stanton aside, the team had holes at catcher, first, and left this season — positions I imagine they thought they were strong at. Though Luke Volt saved first from being a total loss. And Jacoby Ellsbury continues to make David Wright look like a bargain. It'll be interesting to see if the Yankees zag this off-season or double-down on the zig.

Centerfield Oct 11 2018 07:56 AM Re: MFY 2K18

I'm not sure what zig or zag means, but I think there is little doubt as to what the Yankees are going to do this offseason. They slashed payroll this year to get underneath the luxury tax so they could re-set and spend big on this free agent class. How much can they spend? Mere dollar figures might not do justice to how much room the Yankees have to spend this winter, so let’s put it another way: New York could sign Patrick Corbin, Clayton Kershaw, and Manny Machado and still end up spending the same amount on payroll and taxes as they did in the 2015 and -16 seasons. The Yankees have an enormous amount of payroll room and virtually no limits on players they can acquire. https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-yan ... ll-to-use/ We all had fun watching the Red Sox eliminate the Yankees on Tuesday. Understand that this is as good as it's going to get for us in the near future. October baseball means that the Mets are home, and we all hope that any other team in baseball can somehow eliminate the Yankees.

41Forever Oct 11 2018 07:59 AM Re: MFY 2K18

Centerfield wrote: October baseball means that the Mets are home, and we all hope that any other team in baseball can somehow eliminate the Yankees. *Unless you count two of of the last four years, when the Mets were in the playoffs.

Centerfield Oct 11 2018 08:31 AM Re: MFY 2K18

41Forever wrote: Centerfield wrote: October baseball means that the Mets are home, and we all hope that any other team in baseball can somehow eliminate the Yankees. *Unless you count two of of the last four years, when the Mets were in the playoffs. I know! And in one of those years we even stuck around long enough to make a series! I'd be curious to know if you really think your "pivots" are effective. 2 of the last 4 is absolutely correct. But do you think this is a true representation of the Mets fan's experience? Or is 2 of the last 12 a better representation? Or 3 of the last 16 years since the Wilpons took full control? Do you realize that the Yankees have made the playoffs 20 out of the last 24 years? I guess you'd agree with Fred that it's unsustainable.

Ceetar Oct 11 2018 08:40 AM Re: MFY 2K18

Oh man, I really do hope the Yankees get spend-happy. It'll be like when they splurged in 2009. They got a good three years or so out of that class, and managed to win it all once, but it was a big reason they were up against it until recently. They have a budget and a limit as well, and spending it all at once is almost never a good idea. Additionally, a lot of teams will be spending this offseason. Teams have been planning for it. Yankees might not be able to overspend on the top 3 or so guys and might again have to overspend on the second tier guys which is where you can get into trouble.

Centerfield Oct 11 2018 08:48 AM Re: MFY 2K18

Ceetar wrote: Oh man, I really do hope the Yankees get spend-happy. It'll be like when they splurged in 2009. They got a good three years or so out of that class, and managed to win it all once, but it was a big reason they were up against it until recently. They have a budget and a limit as well, and spending it all at once is almost never a good idea. Additionally, a lot of teams will be spending this offseason. Teams have been planning for it. Yankees might not be able to overspend on the top 3 or so guys and might again have to overspend on the second tier guys which is where you can get into trouble. I know right? And maybe if they spend like idiots again, they'll have another 10 year period where they only win the World Series once, make the playoffs 7 out of 10 years, win 90+ games 6 times, including 2 100 win seasons, and have to suffer through a few down seasons where they only win 84 games! What losers!

Edgy MD Oct 11 2018 08:53 AM Re: MFY 2K18

I'm not sure what zig or zag means, but I think there is little doubt as to what the Yankees are going to do this offseason. They slashed payroll this year to get underneath the luxury tax so they could re-set and spend big on this free agent class. Zig: Continue going in the direction that put you on this course. Zag: Forsake that direction and go in another.

Ceetar Oct 11 2018 08:54 AM Re: MFY 2K18

They got some best case scenario stuff out of that.

Centerfield Oct 11 2018 09:02 AM Re: MFY 2K18

Right. Best case scenario. Even if what you are saying is true, they put themselves in a position where those results were possible. Unless there is a wholesale shift in philosophy, the Mets can't even imagine sniffing such results in a 10 year span.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 11 2018 09:11 AM Re: MFY 2K18

I hope that there is that wholesale shift in philosophy with the new GM. I don't honestly think it's going to happen, but I hope it does. The Mets have nine postseason appearances in the last fifty seasons. Eight in the forty-eight years that I've been a fan. The rarity does make each visit to the postseason all the more special, but the hell with that.

Ceetar Oct 11 2018 09:16 AM Re: MFY 2K18

*Looks at Mets roster* *Looks at available players* They're not coming from the same place as the 2008 Yanks, but I'd put reasonable odds on them being a generally above average team for most of the next 10 years with a few playoff appearances. Regardless, this was a thread about the Yankees right? They'll definitely be able to hit in 2019, but let's see what they do about the pitching. They've had a great bullpen for a while, but bullpens and relievers go bad fast. If they make the wrong moves, they could have a lot of issues.

41Forever Oct 11 2018 09:44 AM Re: MFY 2K18 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 11 2018 03:19 PM

Centerfield wrote: Centerfield wrote: October baseball means that the Mets are home, and we all hope that any other team in baseball can somehow eliminate the Yankees. *Unless you count two of of the last four years, when the Mets were in the playoffs. I know! And in one of those years we even stuck around long enough to make a series! I'd be curious to know if you really think your "pivots" are effective. 2 of the last 4 is absolutely correct. But do you think this is a true representation of the Mets fan's experience? Or is 2 of the last 12 a better representation? Or 3 of the last 16 years since the Wilpons took full control? Do you realize that the Yankees have made the playoffs 20 out of the last 24 years? I guess you'd agree with Fred that it's unsustainable. I'm an optimist. I like to dwell on the positive things. I focus on what I have, not what I think I'm owed. I enjoyed that my team went to the postseason twice in the last four years. What the Yankees did is irrelevant to me. Not a fan - but I like it when they lose! Just my opinion. Don't expect everyone to agree.

Centerfield Oct 11 2018 11:25 AM Re: MFY 2K18

I'm an optimist. I like to dwell on the positive things. I focus on what I have, not what I think I'm owed. I enjoyed that my team went to the postseason twice in the last four years. What the Yankees did is irrelevant to me. Not a fan - but I like it when the lose! Just my opinion. Don't expect everyone to agree. I know I've said it before, but it continues to astound me how little regard you have for the truth. I don't think you even understand it as a concept. And you use words like "optimist" to rationalize what you do. Let's take a look at what just happened. I said that our Octobers have been reduced to rooting for the Yankees to lose. Now, I guess it's possible you thought I meant this in the absolute, but since you know I am a Mets fan and actively participate on this board, it's not likely you thought I was unaware of 2015 and 2016. Realistically, you knew my point, which is that generally the Mets don't make the playoffs, and the Yankees do, and we, as Mets fans, spend our Octobers rooting for them to lose, and unless something changes, this is what it's going to be going forward. Now, let's look at your response. *Unless you count two of of the last four years, when the Mets were in the playoffs. What did you mean by this? Did you think I was not counting those years? Again, not likely. You know that I am very aware of those years. And even if that was your point, you would have said "Unless you count 2015 and 2016". But that's not what you said. You specifically made it a point to couch this as 2 of the last 4 years. Why? Your inference is that it's 50%, and as such, the Mets make the playoffs regularly. Your inference is patently not true. But you don't care that it's not true. It advances your agenda, your previously stated position, that everything is fine. You try to couch this as "optimism". But it's not that. Optimism is an expression of hope. This is not hopeful. This is misleading. It suggests a conclusion that is objectively not true. The Mets do not make the playoffs regularly. I'll demonstrate optimism. Yeah, it's not been great, but you know, I like that they're interviewing the analytics guy from Tampa. Maybe things can get better going forward and we can root for our own team next year. This is actual optimism. It's an expression of hope. It doesn't attempt to refute or spin or "pivot" from established fact. It doesn't attempt to create an inaccurate picture for the reader. Let's say a non baseball fan asked me in September, "Hey CF, how are the Mets doing?" I can give a 41Forever answer: They've won 6 out of their last 7 and just destroyed Boston 8-0! This statement is true, but it's intentionally misleading. The Mets are terrible, but this answer is meant to create a false conclusion for the reader. Now, let's try an optimist's answer: Eh, pretty crappy. But their young kids are coming around, and we are playing much better since they got called up. So high hopes for next year! It's pretty clear to me that you don't understand the distinction between those statements. Let's round out the rest of your awesome statement. I focus on what I have, not what I think I'm owed. CF, you're a spoiled brat! You think the Mets owe it to you to win! You should just take your criticisms and just walk out that door young man! Let's not forget outright lies. What the Yankees did is irrelevant to me. Really? Irrelevant? I don't hate or even dislike other baseball teams -- except the Yankees. Ok. Sure. Just my opinion. Don't expect everyone to agree. No copout would be complete without the opinion piece. "I don't care what facts you cite, this is my opinion and I'm not changing it." No dude. "Sweet potatoes taste good" is an opinion. "The Mets make the playoffs regularly" is just false.

Ceetar Oct 11 2018 11:32 AM Re: MFY 2K18

Centerfield wrote: Let's say a non baseball fan asked me in September, "Hey CF, how are the Mets doing?" I can give a 41Forever answer: They've won 6 out of their last 7 and just destroyed Boston 8-0! This statement is true, but it's intentionally misleading. The Mets are terrible, but this answer is meant to create a false conclusion for the reader. Now, let's try an optimist's answer: Eh, pretty crappy. But their young kids are coming around, and we are playing much better since they got called up. So high hopes for next year! They played really well in the second half, and I enjoyed the second half. It's not misleading to point that out, especially to a casual or non-baseball fan unless they were specifically asking if they're in the playoffs. There's a direct connection between players that are very good on the Mets right now, and ones that helped them make the playoffs in 2015 and 2016. Drawing a line from now to say, 2002, is less relevant. What does the 2002 Mets, Steve Phillips, pre-moneyball, pre-Madoff, pre-luxurytax, etc, have to do with what the Mets are today? Almost absolutely nothing. At this point I'm not even sure what you're trying to argue besides that you want to make it abundantly clear that the Mets have sucked a lot. I'm not sure how you derive enjoyment from this constant sense that the Mets are the worst at everything, will screw everything up, and cannot possibly succeed in their current state except by dumb luck?

Centerfield Oct 11 2018 11:40 AM Re: MFY 2K18

They played really well in the second half, and I enjoyed the second half. It's not misleading to point that out, especially to a casual or non-baseball fan unless they were specifically asking if they're in the playoffs. Hey CF, did the Lincolns enjoy the play? CF: OMG, they couldn't stop laughing during Act 1!* *This answer is not misleading since the Lincolns really did enjoy Act 1, and the person did not specifically ask if anyone was murdered.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 11 2018 12:01 PM Re: MFY 2K18

It's too bad they enjoyed the first act. If it had sucked, they might have walked out and Booth would have instead assassinated an empty chair.

41Forever Oct 11 2018 12:06 PM Re: MFY 2K18 Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 11 2018 12:13 PM

I love sweet potatoes. Next month I'm going to make them with a brown sugar sauce and marshmallow topping. That 8-0 win against Boston was fantastic. I look for things to enjoy. Otherwise I would have stopped watching after June. I can still dislike the Yankees and their fake-ring-waving, smelly-cigar-chomping fans and have the team's frequent trips to the playoffs be irrelevant to me. How the team fares doesn't affect me. I dislike it whether it wins or loses. I never said the Mets make the playoffs regularly. I said they've made it twice in the last four years, which I consider recent history. That's a truthful statement. It's funny that you make up conversations with me to attempt to prove a point.

Ceetar Oct 11 2018 12:12 PM Re: MFY 2K18

They played really well in the second half, and I enjoyed the second half. It's not misleading to point that out, especially to a casual or non-baseball fan unless they were specifically asking if they're in the playoffs. Hey CF, did the Lincolns enjoy the play? CF: OMG, they couldn't stop laughing during Act 1!* *This answer is not misleading since the Lincolns really did enjoy Act 1, and the person did not specifically ask if anyone was murdered. The analogy to this is if MLB kicked the Mets out of the league at the end of your 7/8 example. regardless, it's meaningless small talk. Non-baseball fan almost definitely does not want a long rant about how they should've signed Chacin instead of Vargas and how much of a disaster Bruce and Reyes were. You can't mislead someone when they don't actually care about your answer. If you want to phrase it as "Did the Mets have a good year?" well, there were some highlights. It certainly wasn't "Oh, I actually died during the season" bad. Or "The president got killed during it" or whatever. Did they stop running Our American Cousin after that day? Is it not feasible that someone would, legitimately, want to know how it was?

41Forever Oct 11 2018 12:21 PM Re: MFY 2K18

Ceetar wrote: Did they stop running Our American Cousin after that day? I don't know if the play was performed elsewhere, but Ford's Theater didn't see another show for more than 100 years! True! The government bought it and issued an order "forever prohibiting its use as a place of public amusement." It was used as a warehouse and office, and the scene of another tragedy when the front part collapsed, killing 22 and injuring 68. It was restored as a theater and museum in 1968. I visited it with my daughter three years ago. It's a moving experience. Kick-ass Lincoln Waffle House across the street, too.

Centerfield Oct 11 2018 01:08 PM Re: MFY 2K18

41Forever wrote: I can still dislike the Yankees and their fake-ring-waving, smelly-cigar-chomping fans and have the team's frequent trips to the playoffs be irrelevant to me. How the team fares doesn't affect me. I dislike it whether it wins or loses. Sure. So you hate the Yankees, but don't care whether they win or lose? Gotcha. That makes total sense. Well the rest of us were all watching, and we were all nervous when Kimbrel loaded the bases, then celebrated afterwards. I do feel like I should let you know that someone who does care hacked your account Tuesday night and followed the game in real time. 41Forever wrote: Kimbrel needs to realize that Calvin Schiraldi is not a role model. 41Forever wrote: Nice! That hacker sounds like a real Yankee-hater. We should invite him to the 'Pool. 41Forever wrote: I never said the Mets make the playoffs regularly. I said they've made it twice in the last four years, which I consider recent history. That's a truthful statement. I acknowledged that your statement was truthful. That's not the issue. The issue is that it's misleading. And more specifically, intentionally misleading. I really do think that lying comes so second nature to you that you don't realize that you're doing it. I imagine few people in your real life call you out on it.

d'Kong76 Oct 11 2018 01:31 PM Re: MFY 2K18

Interrupting with two cents here... I know technically losing the one-game 'playoff' is making the post-season but c'mon does anyone really feeling like it's making the playoffs? It's artificial nonsense.

Ceetar Oct 11 2018 01:36 PM Re: MFY 2K18

d'Kong76 wrote: Interrupting with two cents here... I know technically losing the one-game 'playoff' is making the post-season but c'mon does anyone really feeling like it's making the playoffs? It's artificial nonsense. it's all artificial nonsense. It's the playoffs, like it or not. Anything can happen in one game, the Yankees got in the same way this year.

41Forever Oct 11 2018 02:02 PM Re: MFY 2K18

Centerfield wrote: I really do think that lying comes so second nature to you that you don't realize that you're doing it. I imagine few people in your real life call you out on it. You twist my words, run down these rabbit holes and insult me. Not going to waste more time on this.

d'Kong76 Oct 11 2018 02:05 PM Re: MFY 2K18

Ceetar wrote: it's all artificial nonsense. It's the playoffs, like it or not. You say tomAto, I say tomAHto -- Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da. It was just two cents. If you wanna puff out your chest and call it making the playoffs you knock yourself out, champ!

Benjamin Grimm Oct 11 2018 02:17 PM Re: MFY 2K18

It is making the playoffs, but in the weakest most unsatisfying way.

Centerfield Oct 11 2018 03:06 PM Re: MFY 2K18

41Forever wrote: Centerfield wrote: I really do think that lying comes so second nature to you that you don't realize that you're doing it. I imagine few people in your real life call you out on it. You twist my words, run down these rabbit holes and insult me. Not going to waste more time on this. 41F, I'm going to level with you here. And I mean this not to be insulting, though I know it it's going to come across this way. I'm sorry about that. But please know that, all of our differences aside, I am not saying this with any ill will. It seems to me that you reach conclusions that you want to reach, and hold to those conclusions even when evidence suggests otherwise. I think when information presents itself, rather than objectively assess what you are seeing, you discount things that contradict your pre-held beliefs, and give more weight to things that support it. Even if the support is illogical, or suspect. We all do this to a certain extent. It's natural, nobody wants to be wrong. But I think you do this more than the average person. And I think you do this so naturally, that you honestly believe you are in the right. Now, you do this well. And I think this makes you valuable to a company, or certainly in the field of politics. But I think there is a value in honoring and acknowledging the truth. Even if, or especially if, it means admitting you were wrong. I'm wrong all the time. I try to admit it when I am. Bill Clinton? Way wrong, for years. I don't like to admit it. But I'd rather admit it, then to try to spin it and make myself sound worse. I assure you I don't twist your words. This is why I make it a point to quote your language rather than paraphrase. Do you really expect us to believe that what the Yankees did is irrelevant to you? Come on. You just told us you hate the Yankees. You were there celebrating with us in the thread when they lost. I didn't bring you down a rabbit hole. You trapped yourself in your own lie. This happens when you're not honest with us, and honest with yourself. I get that it's your job to spin. In some ways, my job is to see through the spin. But people in general are pretty sophisticated. I think you'd be surprised to see how few people buy those pivots. But more importantly, you shouldn't want to pivot. You should want to know the truth. Accept the truth. Then live your life accordingly. I get that you've picked up on the fact that my issue with you goes beyond baseball. I accept that. I say that the left and right should be more civil to each other but I'm guilty of not practicing what I preach. I apologize for that. But I ask that in return, maybe you do some self reflection.

41Forever Oct 11 2018 03:41 PM Re: MFY 2K18

Do you realize that the Yankees have made the playoffs 20 out of the last 24 years? I'm an optimist. I like to dwell on the positive things. I focus on what I have, not what I think I'm owed. I enjoyed that my team went to the postseason twice in the last four years. What the Yankees did is irrelevant to me. Not a fan - but I like it when they lose! Just my opinion. Don't expect everyone to agree. I still can't figure out what the big lie is here. Yes, I said I hate the Yankees. (I think we pretty much all did.) I was happy they lost the series to Boston. (Again, we all were.) You were comparing the Yankees' 20 playoff appearances to the Mets' two. Again, the number of times the Yankees have been to the playoffs is irrelevant to my Mets fandom or my appreciation of the Mets' two recent postseason appearances. That's not tied, in any way, to hating the Yankees or enjoying their defeat. That's exactly what I said there. I get it. You hate the Wilpons and think they can do no right. You don't like me because of who I used to work for and I don't share the same visceral hatred for the baseball team's owners. Can we talk baseball without it turning into personal attacks?

batmagadanleadoff Oct 11 2018 04:03 PM Re: MFY 2K18

Centerfield wrote: 41F, I'm going to level with you here.... He's a Met shill, just like he's a Republican shill. If the Mets were perennial big spenders, AS THEY SHOULD BE, he'd be writing that large payrolls are the essential way to go, especially for big market baseball teams.

Centerfield Oct 11 2018 04:14 PM Re: MFY 2K18

41Forever wrote: I get it. You hate the Wilpons and think they can do no right. You don't like me because of who I used to work for and I don't share the same visceral hatred for the baseball team's owners. Can we talk baseball without it turning into personal attacks? This is where you are mistaken. Obviously I don't like the Wilpons, but they absolutely can do right. They just don't do right. The veterans on this board will attest to this. 20 years ago, there was a contingent of posters who blamed the Wilpons for all the troubles of the organization. They painted a picture of the benevolent Nelson Doubleday being handcuffed by the greedy and miserly Fred Wilpon. These posters didn't have anything to back up their claims, and I felt that it was more than a little based on anti-semitism. I fought such characterizations, and asked for backup. Since then, tons of information has come out. Doubleday may have had his faults, but he did support spending to create a winning ballclub. Fred Wilpon, on the other hand, thinks the Yankee way is "unsustainable". He shuns analytics. He and his son meddle, and scapegoat, and outright lie. In response to this information, I changed my position, and now agree that the Wilpons are a major problem. If tomorrow they woke up, changed their tune, and started running the organization the right way, I'd support them. I try to accept information as it presents itself, then base my opinion on people based upon their actions. Not preconceived notions or allegiances. Similarly, I don't have an issue with you because of who you worked for. I have an issue with you because I've seen you justify atrocious acts for the sake of party. I've seen you lie, and spin, and pivot rather than accepting information, and saying "you know what, this is just not right". I've seen you shirk accountability. We obviously sit on different ends of the political spectrum, but I judge you for your actions, not your party affiliation.

41Forever Oct 11 2018 05:01 PM Re: MFY 2K18

Wow. Well, I disagree with everything you said about me and would dispute what you say are my actions. But clearly your mind is made up and I have no interest in arguing with you. Perhaps we can agree to disagree, focus on baseball and steer clear of insults and personal attacks?

SteveJRogers Oct 11 2018 05:27 PM Re: MFY 2K18

d'Kong76 wrote: Interrupting with two cents here... I know technically losing the one-game 'playoff' is making the post-season but c'mon does anyone really feeling like it's making the playoffs? It's artificial nonsense. I had a card collecting and program collecting hobby project that included every team that made the postseason, MFYs included, and I included play-in games. At no point, even if the Reds had won in 1999, would I’ve considered the losers true “Postseason Teams” (sorry MFS62, ‘51 Dodgers aren’t a true posteason squad), but clearly was part of the October stories that I was collecting. That being said, while the Wild Card Game is an official postseason playoff game, the feeling is still the same. Almost as if it was a “Play-In/Tie Breaker Game” to a slot in the actual postseason.

SteveJRogers Oct 11 2018 05:51 PM Re: MFY 2K18

FWIW There is a BIG difference between 98-74 108-54 92-70 100-60 or 87-75 if you want to start with the 108-54 year and 90-72 and 87-75 being sandwiched in-between 8 seasons of 70 to 79 wins. You can’t say that the fan experience during the former was the same as the latter. Ditto with this four year run 88-74 97-66 94-68 82-80, which you could drop in favor of tacking on another 88-74 year at the front end.

MFS62 Oct 11 2018 07:08 PM Re: MFY 2K18

SteveJRogers wrote: At no point, even if the Reds had won in 1999, would I’ve considered the losers true “Postseason Teams” (sorry MFS62, ‘51 Dodgers aren’t a true posteason squad), but clearly was part of the October stories that I was collecting. Sniff (sob), but, yeah. Thanks for being kind. Later

Centerfield Oct 11 2018 10:19 PM Re: MFY 2K18

41Forever wrote: But clearly your mind is made up and I have no interest in arguing with you. See, here’s the thing. I just wrote an entire post about how my mind is not made up about anything. How I try to be receptive to information and adjust my opinions on people based upon their actions. Your takeaway was the exact opposite of what I wrote. You just shrug that off and dismiss it like there’s no changing the mind of that whacko. It’s easier to write me off as some biased lunatic than to consider that I might be on to something. In a post where you deny shirking accountability, you shirk accountability. Understand this. I’ve been posting on this board (or some form of it) for 20 years. I’ve disagreed with people, thought some were crazy, thought some were dumb, but I have never seen anyone with so little regard for the truth. I’ve never seen anyone who’s immediate reaction to something wrong is to spin it. To pivot. To cover it up or to find a way to make it seem not so bad. And be honest with yourself. You like doing that. You think you’re great at spinning. Knowing how to change the discussion. To pivot. I don’t know why you even try to deny it. But if it makes you feel better to write me off as a nut job, go ahead. Back to baseball.

Frayed Knot Oct 12 2018 02:01 PM Re: MFY 2K18

DeeDee Gregorius is the latest position player to need Tommy John surgery.

Ceetar Oct 12 2018 02:19 PM Re: MFY 2K18

Frayed Knot wrote: DeeDee Gregorius is the latest position player to need Tommy John surgery. And they've known about the issue for years.

Frayed Knot Oct 12 2018 03:46 PM Re: MFY 2K18

They knew he had a partial tear when they acquired him from Arizona four years ago but lots of guys have partials of this or that and can play with it. Tanaka does as well. Few athletes who have any kind of time under their belts will show a pristine anything once you X-Ray, MRI, or poke and probe enough. The Yanx think what sent this injury to surgery-land occurred during the Boston series and he did make two bad throws (both short) in that final game. Unlike Gleyber Torres (who did his on a slide at home) this is on Didi's throwing arm and he plays the position with the longer throw. Torres missed eight months.

Ceetar Oct 15 2018 07:53 AM Re: MFY 2K18

Sure, but look at the coverage of the Mets when they acquired Cespedes. It's a risk-reward calculation that all teams do. Or hell, when they acquired J.J. Putz.

Frayed Knot Nov 26 2018 01:38 PM Re: MFY 2K18

The Yanx, and specifically player rep David Robertson, get called out for bypassing team employees when it came to divvying up post-season money. A table shows them as awarding 45 full shares, a number that's anywhere between 11 and 23 fewer full shares than the other 2018 playoff teams and 11 fewer than they awarded last season when their piece of the pie was larger due to getting one round further in. What interests me most in this piece isn't specifically the number of shares -- although that it has them leaving out "the team’s entire support staff, trainers, clubhouse attendants and BP pitchers" certainly says something even if we'll never know all the circumstances behind it all -- but the fact that it's the NYDN doing the calling. The 'Snooze' over the last number of years is more often seen as the in-house magazine of everything pinstriped and here they seem to go out of their way to throw in some nasty wording: "Greedy", "Cheapskates", "Stiffing", etc. The piece is attributed to 'The Daily News Sports Staff' rather than to any one writer - although Bill Madden's name is mentioned briefly. I wonder if that's so Cashman and the Steinbrenners won't know who specifically to retaliate against and so that Madden (plus whatever other 'Name' guy is still left over there) can claim not to have all the blood on their hands here.

Nymr83 Nov 26 2018 02:21 PM Re: MFY 2K18

Robertson is a free agent though and is the only person called out by name as the instigator - maybe this was meant as a "hit piece" orchestrated against him BY the Yankees brass rather than as an anti-Yankee piece? I wonder how a yankees fan reads it.

Edgy MD Nov 26 2018 04:39 PM Re: MFY 2K18

Yeah, it certainly can be seen as an attempt at clearing the players left behind. But man, who leaves out trainers? I remember a story, maybe from Ron Darling, that portrayed Rickey Henderson as a peripheral figure's best friend at post-season allocation time. The post-season roster would gather and the rep would go down the list of shuttle-riders, clubbies, groundskeepers, and everybody, and at every name, Rickey would yell, "Full share!"

Nymr83 Nov 26 2018 06:53 PM Re: MFY 2K18

Good for Rickey.

Frayed Knot Nov 27 2018 03:40 AM Re: MFY 2K18

I also forget the exact source but remember hearing that story. Rickey's point was that this bonus was going to mean a lot more to the lives of the marginal player (or non-player) than the slightly reduced portion due to slicing the pie into more pieces was going to mean to the established guys. Plus it just looks bad, especially so now that this kind of thing doesn't stay secret these days.