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Benjamin Grimm
Jan 01 2018 07:11 AM

Italian journalist Albino Longhi, 88.

Morto Albino Longhi, storico direttore del Tg1

batmagadanleadoff
Jan 04 2018 01:39 PM
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Rick Hall (a few days ago) producer and songrwriter, who, through his Muscle Shoals Alabama studio, contributed about as much to American R&B, soul and rock music as just about anybody else.

http://www.al.com/entertainment/index.s ... hoals.html

Check out Wilson Pickett's Hey Jude. Duane Allman's outro lead guitar solo sends chills up and down my spine every single time I hear it.

[youtube]0y8Q2PATVyI[/youtube]

Edgy MD
Jan 04 2018 02:16 PM
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Best show I ever saw was Wilson Pickett, and "Hey Jude" was its highlight.

Freezing cold March night at The Ritz. Coldest night of the year. We were supposed to see Violent Femmes at Carnegie Hall, but our tickets said "obscured view" due to the scaffolding that was part of their renovation (and the only reason they were booking rock acts at the time, I'd guess). So we sold our tickets to some kid with weird hair, and went and saw Hannah and Her Sisters, grabbed a Village Voice to see what else was going on, and committed to go to see Wilson afterwards. To be young in New York with a few $$ in your pocket. Sweet!

It was a late show, and it was cold in that way only New York can be cold, where the wind can pick you up and toss you across the street. So cold we got disoriented down in the Village, and couldn't find our way until we stopped and heard "Land of 1,000 Dances" on the breeze. We hustled in the direction of the sound and it turned out to be a lone mechanic working late and in the cold at his garage, blasting a then-current version of "LoaTD" by an all-star group of WWF wrestlers to keep him warm. Crazy!

Somehow we got our bearings and found our way to the Ritz, and it was special in the way on The Ritz could be special â€” where the time before a show wasn't filled with folks jostling for position and smoking and hunching, but actually joyously dancing. So we walked in at 11ish, checked our parkas, danced to half a record, and then walked right to the stage's edge as the opening act, Mitch Ryder, fresh out of cocaine rehab, took the stage. Wilson, true to his lyrics, didn't come on 'til the midnight hour, and he and every note insisted that booties shake. He pulled the best dancers up on stage, pretty little 98-pound teenage chixx, yeah, but middle-aged fatties too. Pickett didn't discriminate. They needed some big-league pulling by Pickett, too, so we got under their asses and helped hoist them up. By the time he got to "Hey, Jude" the whole place was singing together like a Scottish football rally. The guitarist started his outro referencing Duane Allman's original but then went in his own direction, and on and on. Catharasis! Rarely have I fully understood that word.

Southern soul cooked just right is just the greatest music.

A few years later, when Wilson Pickett was being inducted into the Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Fame, I was working at SPIN. Nobody wanted to go to the ceremony so I said HELL YEAH. I gots my formal wear ready, but at the last minute, a senior editor deigned to go instead, and I got bumped. That day the Gulf War started, and Wilson's flight got cancelled, which might have been for the best, as he didn't endure Bobby Brown giving the worst induction tribute in the Hall's history, essentially acknowledging that apart from the nickname "Wicked Pickett," he didn't really know who Wilson Pickett was.

41Forever
Jan 04 2018 02:26 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:
Best show I ever saw was Wilson Pickett, and "Hey Jude" was its highlight.

Freezing cold March night at The Ritz. Coldest night of the year. We were supposed to see Violent Femmes at Carnegie Hall, but our tickets said "obscured view" due to the scaffolding that was part of their renovation (and the only reason they were booking rock acts at the time, I'd guess). So we sold our tickets to some kid with weird hair, and went and saw Hannah and Her Sisters, grabbed a Village Voice to see what else was going on, and committed to go to see Wilson afterwards. To be young in New York with a few $$ in your pocket. Sweet!

It was a late show, and it was cold in that way only New York can be cold, where the wind can pick you up and toss you across the street. So cold we got disoriented down in the Village, and couldn't find our way until we stopped and heard "Land of 1,000 Dances" on the breeze. We hustled in the direction of the sound and it turned out to be a lone mechanic working late and in the cold at his garage, blasting a then-current version of "LoaTD" by an all-star group of WWF wrestlers to keep him warm. Crazy!

Somehow we got our bearings and found our way to the Ritz, and it was special in the way on The Ritz could be special â€” where the time before a show wasn't filled with folks jostling for position and smoking and hunching, but actually joyously dancing. So we walked in at 11ish, checked our parkas, danced to half a record, and then walked right to the stage's edge as the opening act, Mitch Ryder, fresh out of cocaine rehab, took the stage. Wilson, true to his lyrics, didn't come on 'til the midnight hour, and he and every note insisted that booties shake. He pulled the best dancers up on stage, pretty little 98-pound teenage chixx, yeah, but middle-aged fatties too. Pickett didn't discriminate. They needed some big-league pulling by Pickett, too, so we got under their asses and helped hoist them up. By the time he got to "Hey, Jude" the whole place was singing together like a Scottish football rally. The guitarist started his outro referencing Duane Allman's original but then went in his own direction, and on and on. Catharasis! Rarely have I fully understood that word.

Southern soul cooked just right is just the greatest music.

A few years later, when Wilson Pickett was being inducted into the Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Fame, I was working at SPIN. Nobody wanted to go to the ceremony so I said HELL YEAH. I gots my formal wear ready, but at the last minute, a senior editor deigned to go instead, and I got bumped. That day the Gulf War started, and Wilson's flight got cancelled, which might have been for the best, as he didn't endure Bobby Brown giving the worst induction tribute in the Hall's history, essentially acknowledging that apart from the nickname "Wicked Pickett," he didn't really know who Wilson Pickett was.

That's a great story. You're such a good writer.

Edgy MD
Jan 04 2018 02:34 PM
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Thanks!

By the way, I coincidentally heard this yesterday, which is living proof that Wilson could make anything sound greasy and soulful. Number 25 in 1970, less than a year after the original went to #1.

[youtube:36sgr1wv]OrZluYnMJUY[/youtube:36sgr1wv]

G-Fafif
Jan 04 2018 08:58 PM
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Brendan Byrne, two-term governor of New Jersey (and Meadowlands arena namesake, namesake being one of those words that works in both directions), 93.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/04/obit ... at-93.html

Lefty Specialist
Jan 06 2018 07:20 AM
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One of the great lines from Byrne was that he wanted to be buried in Hudson County, so he could remain active in politics.

G-Fafif
Jan 06 2018 01:08 PM
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Ace comedic actor Jerry Van Dyke, 86. A lot of roles, including as wonderfully self-unaware maternal grandpa Tag on The Middle in recent years. Also pretty well known as a sibling.

cooby
Jan 06 2018 01:25 PM
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Loved him on The Middle

Frayed Knot
Jan 06 2018 01:56 PM
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... and then there were five.

Astronaut John Young, who flew in the Gemeni, Apollo, and Space Shuttle programs, became the ninth man to walk on the moon with Apollo 16, and was one of only three men
to have been to the moon more than once (he also orbited but did not land on the moon with Apollo 10), is dead at age 87.

Seven of the twelve men to walk on the moon are now gone as are 10 of the 24 who have flown to the moon.

[crossout]Neil Armstrong[/crossout] (11)
Buzz Aldrin (11)
Alan Bean (12)
[crossout]Gene Cernan[/crossout] (17)
[crossout]Pete Conrad[/crossout] (12)
Charlie Duke (16)
[crossout]Jim Irwin[/crossout] (15)
[crossout]Edgar Mitchell[/crossout] (14)
Harrison Schmitt (17)
Dave Scott (15)
[crossout]Alan Shepard[/crossout] (14)
[crossout]John Young[/crossout] (16)

Zvon
Jan 06 2018 03:55 PM
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I hate opening this thread.

RealityChuck
Jan 07 2018 11:13 AM
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Dick Orkin, 84. (It happened in December, but that thread is closed.)

Orkin was a radio announcer and comedian, best known for creating both Chickenman and The Tooth Fairy, two series of two-minute radio comedies that were syndicated in the 70s and developed a cult following.

I'm not sure if Chickenman ran in the NYC area (it originated from Chicago), but I do remember The Tooth Fairy.

Orkin and his partner Bert Berdis went on to write and perform in radio advertising, following in the footsteps of Stan Freberg by creating clever and funny ads that were all over the radio in the late 70s and winning multiple Cleo awards for best advertising.

Chickenman
[youtube]KgMOOPxkYVk[/youtube]

Here's a sample of their ads.
[youtube]Hy8BRHRSPzI[/youtube]

Frayed Knot
Jan 13 2018 01:05 PM
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Keith Jackson, longtime announcer, and for many the definitive voice, of Saturday afternoon college football - age 89
He was not nearly as good at baseball, but that was he paired with Tim McCarver on Game 6 1986 Mets/Astros. That was, in fact, his final MLB game.
He was also on the mike for 1977 Game 6 WS (Reggie x3), or at least he was when Cosell wasn't stepping all over his p-b-p.

Also did Olympics, college hoops, and auto racing.
Whoa Nellie!!

SteveJRogers
Jan 13 2018 02:14 PM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
Keith Jackson, longtime announcer, and for many the definitive voice, of Saturday afternoon college football - age 89
He was not nearly as good at baseball, but that was he paired with Tim McCarver on Game 6 1986 Mets/Astros. That was, in fact, his final MLB game.
He was also on the mike for 1977 Game 6 WS (Reggie x3), or at least he was when Cosell wasn't stepping all over his p-b-p.

Also did Olympics, college hoops, and auto racing.
Whoa Nellie!!

Jackson was also the orignal Play-By-Play man for Monday Night Football.

MFS62
Jan 13 2018 03:25 PM
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Keith also changed the nickname of a college football team.
The Saturday College Football Game of the Week was (partially) sponsored by General Motors.
One day, the SMU Mustangs were playing. Keith, so as not to offend the sponsor by using the name of a competitor's product throughout the game, started calling them the "Ponies" and other announcers and writers began calling them by that name for a while.
RIP
Later

Ashie62
Jan 13 2018 10:27 PM
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Keith Jackson. The VOICE of College Football. A fixture of my youth "Here we are at the Rose Bowl, the grandaddy of them all!"

R.I.P. Keith and thanks so so much.

Ashie62
Jan 13 2018 10:35 PM
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Lefty Specialist wrote:
One of the great lines from Byrne was that he wanted to be buried in Hudson County, so he could remain active in politics.

I'm sure Bob Menendez would laugh. Hilarious.

Bryne's passing got by me. I spent time with him at Lawrenceville during the darkest times. He asked the group from Eagleton before a presser that if it got too nasty in the room, throw up a question about Notre Dame football so he could get his sea legs. He did what he had to do and I have the highest respect for B.B.

Hudson County, you do not rise up without some type of "help" IMHO.

G-Fafif
Jan 14 2018 03:42 PM
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Ray Thomas, a founder of the Moody Blues and author of the signature flute sound of "Nights in White Satin," 76.

A Boy Named Seo
Jan 15 2018 10:48 AM
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I just read Dolores Oâ€™Riordan of the Cranberries has died at the very young age of 46.

http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-42696376

Edgy MD
Jan 15 2018 11:56 AM
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Passed away right in the middle of a recording session. She was fantastic.

Frayed Knot
Jan 15 2018 01:00 PM
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Was just thinking about her recently for the first time in years on account of hearing LINGER via a supermarket PA

Edgy MD
Jan 15 2018 01:09 PM
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I've made a lot of comments about the alarming mortality of the frontpersons for bands associated with the 90s, but as far as I know she wasn't reputed to have chemical issues, unlike so many of her contemporaries. I know she did profess at one point to be bipolar.

I thought they were great, although their singles really outshone their album tracks, as if they were using ambitious production to make up for whatever limitations they had. But they came across without artiface, even without the comparing them to grunge-era acts. They just seemed like decent Limerick folk who got lucky and knew it.

They were rare birds who broke in the US before breaking in Ireland or the UK, and the UK music press seemingly didn't trust them because of that, so it took a few years before their status in Europe was as big as it was here. I remember them playing the Mall in DC and getting increasingly wearied by the audience slamming aggressively and at inappropriate moments. She asked them to calm down and they started throwing bottles at her. The band left the stage and in came the riot police.

The 90's, man. What a jerky era.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jan 15 2018 02:09 PM
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I hope she doesn't return as a Zombie, zo-ahm-bie, zom- ba-hie, ba-hie, ba-hie, ba-hie, ba-hie.

#toosoon

41Forever
Jan 15 2018 05:41 PM
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I thought their Sept. 11 song was excellent. I think itâ€™s called â€œNew New York.â€

G-Fafif
Jan 15 2018 08:36 PM
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Yet another loss from the world of music: Edwin Hawkins, of "Oh Happy Day" fame.

http://www.latimes.com/local/obituaries ... story.html

Zvon
Jan 15 2018 11:15 PM
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Yet another loss from the world of music: Edwin Hawkins, of "Oh Happy Day" fame.

http://www.latimes.com/local/obituaries ... story.html

:(
RIP Mr. Hawkins.

Wow, I thought the lyric was "When Jesus walked" but it's "When Jesus washed".
I am amazed at how many 60s song lyrics I am totally wrong on. I must blame my transistor radio, I guess.
Name any song from the 1960s and I'll tell you what I thought the lyrics were.

Just read this:____
Born in Oakland, he sang in church and family choirs before founding the 46-member Northern California State Youth Choir of the Church of God in Christ. They were renamed the Edwin Hawkins Singers when an album was recorded for Pavillion Records. The group also backed up Melanie on her #6 hit in 1970, "Lay Down (Candles In The Rain)"...
Edwin was elected to the Christian Music Hall of Fame in 2007...
_____

When I think about it, yes, it's easy to hear them, to know it's them, on Melanie's song. Both powerful songs that I loved.
Both songs REALLY bring back memories of the playground in Lefrak City. Even in 1969 someone had a radio blasting in that playground.
Great times.

PS:are spellchecks everywhere actually getting stupid?
Especially on gadget phones.

sharpie
Jan 16 2018 07:23 AM
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"Lay Down", on the single at least, was credited as Melanie with the Edwin Hawkins Singers. By far the best Melanie song.

"Oh Happy Day" was pretty great. I also used to hear "When Jesus walked"

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jan 16 2018 07:54 AM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
I hope she doesn't return as a Zombie, zo-ahm-bie, zom- ba-hie, ba-hie, ba-hie, ba-hie, ba-hie.

#toosoon

You know I'm such a fool for you.

Mets Willets Point
Jan 16 2018 10:12 AM
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Such a beautiful voice and a brilliant debut album that they never able to build upon.

I'll never forget how a free cranberries concert prompted a "riot" on the National Mall. Ah, the 90's.

G-Fafif
Jan 16 2018 08:23 PM
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Jo Jo White, the Celtics great, leaves us at 71.

G-Fafif
Jan 16 2018 08:23 PM
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WKRP creator Hugh Wilson is now, sadly, on the air at WRIP, dead at 74.

G-Fafif
Jan 19 2018 10:19 AM
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Former CIA director Stansfield Turner, 94.

Ashie62
Jan 20 2018 03:50 AM
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Revealed in 2018.

Tom Petty, accidental overdose from opioids,

[url]https://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/tom-pettys-cause-of-death-accidental-overdose-w515472

cooby
Jan 20 2018 04:53 PM
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Lost a beloved classmate this weekend to Alzheimer's. Not even 60 yet so it just goes to show you never know.

RIP dear Vance. We all will love you forever for your charm, wit, and everything else you brought to the world.

Ashie62
Jan 22 2018 03:16 PM
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Jim Rodford, Founding member of Argent and member of the Zombies. Known by me largely for his 18 years with the Kinks on the road and in the studio.

[url]https://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/jim-rodford-kinks-and-argent-bassist-dead-at-76-w515670

Zvon
Jan 22 2018 06:55 PM
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cooby wrote:
Lost a beloved classmate this weekend to Alzheimer's. Not even 60 yet so it just goes to show you never know.

RIP dear Vance. We all will love you forever for your charm, wit, and everything else you brought to the world.

My condolences Cooby.

I hate this thread so I try to avoid opening it.

MFS62
Jan 22 2018 07:25 PM
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Sorry to hear that, Cooby. If you liked him, he must have been a good person.
RIP.
Later

MFS62
Jan 22 2018 07:28 PM
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Connie Sawyer the oldest working actress - 104.
http://people.com/movies/connie-sawyer- ... ress-dies/

Later

G-Fafif
Jan 23 2018 02:14 PM
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Hugh Masekela, legend of the jazz trumpet, 78. Go graze in the grass in his honor.

[youtube]Tp_S3QOJk90[/youtube]

sharpie
Jan 23 2018 04:02 PM
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Saw him at the Apollo in an evening of South African music. A master.

Zvon
Jan 23 2018 05:24 PM
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G-Fafif wrote:
Hugh Masekela, legend of the jazz trumpet, 78. Go graze in the grass in his honor.

It was a gas!

dgwphotography
Jan 23 2018 05:39 PM
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cooby wrote:
Lost a beloved classmate this weekend to Alzheimer's. Not even 60 yet so it just goes to show you never know.

RIP dear Vance. We all will love you forever for your charm, wit, and everything else you brought to the world.

My condolences, Cooby. I lost my cousin to this last week. Such a horrible disease.

cooby
Jan 23 2018 06:31 PM
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Thanks guys. It is a terrible disease. There are so damn many things that can go wrong with a body it's a wonder any of us get to age 10.

cooby
Jan 23 2018 06:33 PM
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Hugh Masekela, legend of the jazz trumpet, 78. Go graze in the grass in his honor.

It was a gas!

Oh and I loved this too. Very sad lately :(

Zvon
Jan 23 2018 06:39 PM
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Hugh Masekela, legend of the jazz trumpet, 78. Go graze in the grass in his honor.

It was a gas!

Oh and I loved this too. Very sad lately :(

I gotta dig up the one with the vocals. That's the one I really wanna hear. Coming soon to the music thread.

RealityChuck
Jan 23 2018 08:33 PM
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Ursula K. Leguin, one of the giants of science fiction. Her The Left Hand of Darkness is one of the greatest novels in the field, and her Earthsea books were extremely popular.

G-Fafif
Jan 23 2018 11:57 PM
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Naomi Parker Fraley, 96, identified only recently as the inspiration for Rosie the Riveter.

During World War II, Fraley was a factory worker at Alameda Naval Station, according to CNN affiliate KATU. She was one of millions of women across the United States who filled the labor force during the war. While Fraley was working a press photographer approached her to take her picture, Blankenship [her daughter-in-law] said.

Over 60 years later, Fraley attended a convention for women who, like Rosie the Riveter, worked during the war. There, said Blankenship, Fraley saw a photograph promoted as the likely inspiration behind the iconic image of Rosie the Riveter in the "We can do it" poster.

Blankenship says Fraley immediately recognized the picture as the one the photographer captured of her all those years ago.

Benjamin Grimm
Jan 24 2018 10:56 AM
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Tinky Winky, 52.

41Forever
Jan 25 2018 01:58 PM
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Benjamin Grimm wrote:
Tinky Winky, 52.

Sun Baby is sad.

RealityChuck
Jan 25 2018 04:43 PM
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That baby is one of the creepiest things I've ever seen. I

Frayed Knot
Jan 25 2018 04:50 PM
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RealityChuck wrote:
That baby is one of the creepiest things I've ever seen.

That's why he's been referred to as 'Creepy Sun Baby' for years around here.

Mets Willets Point
Jan 26 2018 10:19 AM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
RealityChuck wrote:
That baby is one of the creepiest things I've ever seen.

That's why he's been referred to as 'Creepy Sun Baby' for years around here.

She's in her mid-20s now.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Jan 27 2018 12:08 AM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
RealityChuck wrote:
That baby is one of the creepiest things I've ever seen.

That's why he's been referred to as 'Creepy Sun Baby' for years around here.

Edgy MD
Jan 27 2018 04:57 PM
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Mort Walker, creator of long-running comic strip Beetle Bailey as well as the too-often-overlooked brilliance of Hi and Lois, and probably a friend of the Lunchbucket/Knot family, has inked his last strip at 94.

Little-appreciated fact: both strips were set in the same universe, with Beetle being Lois' little-mentioned, ne'er-do-well brother-in-the-army.

[fimg=750]http://hiandlois.com/files/2014/10/HIT19941023.gif[/fimg]

MFS62
Jan 27 2018 06:39 PM
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RIP, Mort.
Your strips brought us much enjoyment, and things to dream about.
Hi and Lois was everybody's happy family and Beetle Bailey was the peace time Army in which we wish we had served.

Later

Edgy MD
Jan 27 2018 07:34 PM
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Early Beetle Bailey was a college kid, cutting class and chasing girls. It had a niche audience, but it wasn't growing.

It was the first year. Walker got wind that the syndicate was losing interest and thinking about pulling the plug. College hyjinx just wasn't universal enough to be broadly relatable.

Then the light went off over Mort's head. He drew a strip that featured Beetle downtown on a corner.

The Korean War was on, and there were a lot more folks heading into the service than heading for school. The strip lasted 66 more years.

Benjamin Grimm
Jan 28 2018 05:50 AM
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While he's most famous for Beetle Bailey, Mort Walker was also one of the co-creators of Boner's Ark, which I remember reading in Newsday when I was a kid. Boner, unlike Noah, only brought one member of each species onto his ark.

Wikipedia wrote:
Boner's Ark was an American comic strip created by Mort Walker, also the creator of Beetle Bailey. Walker debuted the strip under the pseudonym "Addison" on March 11, 1968. The title is a reference to Noah's Ark of Abrahamic religions.

Designed and written by Mort Walker, Boner's Ark first appeared on March 11, 1968. The series ran until 27 May 2000, with the final strip depicting the Ark reaching dry land.

41Forever
Jan 28 2018 08:16 AM
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Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jan 28 2018 07:44 PM

Walker was a proud University of Missouri grad, and thereâ€™s a statue of Beetle sitting at a table. Itâ€™s one of those statues that is designed so you can sit with him.

Edgy MD
Jan 28 2018 08:25 AM
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Boner's Ark frequently had prime real estate right underneath Peanuts. I wonder if Boner was related to Lois and Beetle too.

Benjamin Grimm
Jan 28 2018 08:33 AM
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Ikea Founder Ingvar Kamprad, 91.

I guess he won't be at the Tabloid Cover Derby ceremony in Stockholm this week.

Edgy MD
Jan 28 2018 08:43 AM
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Became a Nazi despite Sweden's officially neutral stance during World War II. And amazingly became one in 1942, by which time everyone (everyone in the Northern hemisphere certainly) knew exactly what they were.

Benjamin Grimm
Jan 28 2018 09:50 AM
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You're referring to the Ikea guy, right? Not Mort Walker?

dgwphotography
Jan 28 2018 12:19 PM
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Benjamin Grimm wrote:
You're referring to the Ikea guy, right? Not Mort Walker?

That's why the quote button is my friend...

Frayed Knot
Jan 28 2018 01:19 PM
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Anyone who ever spent more than a few minutes in a ski lodge or at a ski bar (or so I've heard) has seen their share of Warren Miller films running as if on an endless loop on whatever screen was nearby.
A ski (and surfer) bum himself later turned filmmaker, Miller died this past week at age 93 after churning out what seemed like mountains (pun intended) of exhilarating footage from ski slopes around the world.

Mets Willets Point
Jan 29 2018 09:19 AM
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Mort Walker lived in Stamford, CT when I was growing up there as a kid. His personal collection was on display at the peripatetic Museum of Cartoon Art which my Dad took us to a couple of times.

Cullen Murphy, who wrote Prince Valiant with his father illustrating from 1980-2004, and also graduated from my high school a couple of decades before I did, has written a book about all the cartoonists and illustrators who lived in Fairfield County, CT and how they worked and socialized together.

Benjamin Grimm
Jan 29 2018 09:21 AM
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I had to look up "peripatetic". Nice word!

I remember visiting the museum in the 1980s, while I still lived on Long Island. It was in an old castle in Rye, if I remember correctly.

Mets Willets Point
Jan 29 2018 09:22 AM
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Benjamin Grimm wrote:
I had to look up "peripatetic". Nice word!

I remember visiting the museum in the 1980s, while I still lived on Long Island. It was in an old castle in Rye, if I remember correctly.

I specifically remember going to the castle in Rye too.

G-Fafif
Jan 29 2018 12:43 PM
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Mets Willets Point wrote:
Mort Walker lived in Stamford, CT when I was growing up there as a kid. His personal collection was on display at the peripatetic Museum of Cartoon Art which my Dad took us to a couple of times.

Cullen Murphy, who wrote Prince Valiant with his father illustrating from 1980-2004, and also graduated from my high school a couple of decades before I did, has written a book about all the cartoonists and illustrators who lived in Fairfield County, CT and how they worked and socialized together.

Murphy wrote a condensed version of the story for Vanity Fair.

Frayed Knot
Jan 29 2018 01:39 PM
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Mets Willets Point wrote:
Benjamin Grimm wrote:
I had to look up "peripatetic". Nice word!

I remember visiting the museum in the 1980s, while I still lived on Long Island. It was in an old castle in Rye, if I remember correctly.

I specifically remember going to the castle in Rye too.

I have some vague memory of going there once too.

Frayed Knot
Feb 05 2018 04:58 PM
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Actor John Mahoney - 77
Notably the father on the 'Frasier' series and manager 'Kid Gleason' of the Black Sox in 'Eight Men Out'

TransMonk
Feb 05 2018 05:03 PM
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[youtube:1olmnxk2]sonzBvi97qI[/youtube:1olmnxk2]

RIP

Edgy MD
Feb 05 2018 07:21 PM
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I'm incarcerated, Lloyd!!!

Frayed Knot
Feb 05 2018 08:06 PM
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John Mahoney: born June 20, 1940 in Blackpool, Lancashire, England

I've long gotten used to the fact that at least 85% of the actors who play American roles are British by birth (Build That Wall!!) but I had no idea on this one.

G-Fafif
Feb 05 2018 10:21 PM
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Mahoney was 15 years older than Kelsey Grammer, yet played his elderly father from a clearly earlier generation.

Acting!

dgwphotography
Feb 06 2018 01:42 PM
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By all accounts, Mahoney was a gifted actor, and an even better person.

Edgy MD
Feb 06 2018 01:50 PM
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Mets content!

[youtube:3kwgbrzg]_QioUicta5I[/youtube:3kwgbrzg]

dgwphotography
Feb 06 2018 02:30 PM
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I remember that episode. Iâ€™m surprised Frasier didnâ€™t try to name drop Sam to get in good with the author.

Ashie62
Feb 06 2018 03:26 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:
I'm incarcerated, Lloyd!!!

This.

Frayed Knot
Feb 07 2018 07:20 AM
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G-Fafif wrote:
Mahoney was 15 years older than Kelsey Grammer, yet played his elderly father from a clearly earlier generation.

Acting!

Al Lewis was actually a year younger than Yvonne De Carlo despite playing her father on 'The Munsters' although Lewis was known to alter the "facts" of his past so that may not have been know at the time of casting.

Benjamin Grimm
Feb 07 2018 07:29 AM
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Angela Lansbury was ten years older than Elvis Presley, but she played his mother in Blue Hawaii.

Edgy MD
Feb 07 2018 07:43 AM
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Glenn Close did it at nine years older, playing Gertrude to Mel Gibson's Hamlet.

TransMonk
Feb 07 2018 03:14 PM
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[tweet:3rygqnnn]https://twitter.com/kelseygrammer/status/961302172389355520[/tweet:3rygqnnn]

dgwphotography
Feb 07 2018 05:39 PM
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Surely you know that Shirley Jones was only 16 years older than her TV and real-life step son David Cassidy

Zvon
Feb 07 2018 08:01 PM
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dgwphotography wrote:
Surely you know that Shirley Jones was only 16 years older than her TV and real-life step son David Cassidy

I had SUCH a crush on the Partridge's mom in 1972. I think I still might have a bit of a crush left.

sharpie
Feb 09 2018 01:25 PM
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Drummer/actor Mickey Jones. Took Levon Helm's spot as drummer in the 1966 Dylan UK tour which featured the famous "Judas" incident.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/08/obit ... ottom-well

G-Fafif
Feb 14 2018 10:37 AM
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Singer Vic Damone, 89.

Comedian Marty Allen, 95.

DJ/MC Lovebug Starski, 57. His track "You've Gotta Believe" borrowed from a favorite phrase, so it was only fair when his groove backed some very timely lyrics in 1985.

[youtube]MQdye0TQOqY[/youtube]

RealityChuck
Feb 14 2018 11:41 AM
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Audrey Rothman, my mother, 86.

G-Fafif
Feb 14 2018 11:41 AM
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Deepest condolences, Chuck.

Edgy MD
Feb 14 2018 11:45 AM
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Very saddened to hear, Chuck.

Benjamin Grimm
Feb 14 2018 11:50 AM
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My condolences as well.

Rockin' Doc
Feb 17 2018 04:34 PM
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Belated condolences on the loss of your mother.

cooby
Feb 17 2018 05:17 PM
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RealityChuck wrote:
Audrey Rothman, my mother, 86.

So very sorry chuck. My wholehearted condolences :(

MFS62
Feb 17 2018 05:26 PM
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My condolences to you and your family.
Later

Zvon
Feb 18 2018 01:12 AM
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So sorry Chuck. :(

41Forever
Feb 18 2018 05:51 AM
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Very sad to hear this, Chuck. Condolences to you and your family.

RealityChuck
Feb 19 2018 11:38 AM
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Thanks, everyone. Your condolences help.

Fman99
Feb 19 2018 05:30 PM
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Sorry for your loss, Chuck.

dgwphotography
Feb 20 2018 04:20 AM
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RealityChuck wrote:
Audrey Rothman, my mother, 86.

Iâ€™m so sorry for your loss, Chuck

Frayed Knot
Feb 21 2018 06:55 AM
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Evangelist Billy Graham - 99

cooby
Feb 21 2018 02:46 PM
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The little boy who shot himself at school in Ohio :(

SteveJRogers
Feb 21 2018 08:31 PM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
Evangelist Billy Graham - 99

Not even gone a day, and already heâ€™s getting savagely attacked for being on the wrong side of social justice history in the â€œMAY THE BASTARD ROT IN HELL, IF THAT EVEN EXISTSâ€ manner.

[url]http://www.newnownext.com/reverend-billy-graham-was-a-bigot-do-not-mourn-his-death/02/2018/?xrs=synd_facebook_logo

Edgy MD
Feb 21 2018 09:20 PM
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Give the writer some credit. He wrote a lot of words, but I don't really find that quote in there.

G-Fafif
Feb 24 2018 07:30 PM
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Nanette Fabray, TV mother of Mary Richards and Ann Romano (and much more in a career that seemed to last forever), 97.

Edgy MD
Mar 03 2018 07:48 PM
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I like Nannette Fabray.

Also, play some Caruso as you say goodbye to Charles from M*A*S*H* and Porter from The Accidental Tourist and Cogsworth the spring-loaded narrator of Beauty and the Beast, as David Ogden Stiers gets his honorable discharge at 75.

G-Fafif
Mar 03 2018 09:01 PM
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I saw DOS on Broadway pre-CEW, in Doug Henning's The Magic Show.

Also a splendid guest star turn on Frasier, as a long-ago associate of Frasier's and Niles's late mother, who Martin suspects may be the brothers' real father since, well, consider the actors in question. He's not, but it. Made for well-played laughs.

G-Fafif
Mar 04 2018 05:13 AM
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Sir Roger Bannister, who ran the first recorded four-minute mile (in 1954), 88.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/ ... es-aged-88

Frayed Knot
Mar 04 2018 09:19 AM
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G-Fafif wrote:
Sir Roger Bannister, who ran the first recorded four-minute mile (in 1954), 88.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/ ... es-aged-88

Tough to comprehend all these years later what eclipsing that four-laps/four-minutes barrier meant at the time.
While in some ways it was just a symbolic breaking of a round number, one which had seemingly mocked man's attempts to shave that final second off for some nine years -- and, once broken, it indeed became open season on the mark as the new record lasted just weeks and it was just months before multiple runners were breaking the mark in the same races implying that the barrier had been psychological all along -- in other ways it was a demonstration, contrary to some thought at the time, that man's improvement had not stalled. And particularly in the dreary post-WWII era in Britain, Bannister's run, along with Hillary's ascent of Everest the previous year, gave hope to think that maybe the best of humanity wasn't all behind them.

d'Kong76
Mar 04 2018 10:22 AM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
...Bannister's run, along with Hillary's ascent of Everest the previous year, gave hope to think that maybe the best of humanity wasn't all behind them.

Is she claiming to have done that too now?

Frayed Knot
Mar 04 2018 12:12 PM
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d'Kong76 wrote:
Frayed Knot wrote:
...Bannister's run, along with Hillary's ascent of Everest the previous year, gave hope to think that maybe the best of humanity wasn't all behind them.

Is she claiming to have done that too now?

Not that I know of although she did once claim, to Sir Edmund's face no less, that she was named after him, right down to citing the unusual double-l spelling.
The problem? Hillary Rodham was born in 1947, six years prior to his fame-making climb in the Himalayas. Prior to that he was an obscure bee-keeper living and climbing in New Zealand and not generally known to young couples living in suburban Chicago trying to decide on names for their eldest child.
But then, adherence to the truth has never been her strong suit.

G-Fafif
Mar 06 2018 08:49 AM
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Russ Solomon, 92, founder of Tower Records.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.nyt ... 2.amp.html

G-Fafif
Mar 08 2018 12:58 PM
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Harvey Schmidt, 88, who as a tender and callow fellow co-created The Fantasticks, which ran a little while Off-Broadway.

Edgy MD
Mar 13 2018 10:42 PM
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And bam, famed theoretical physicist and cosmologist Stephen Hawking returns to the universe he attempted to understand like no other.

Survived 55 years from diagnosis to death with ALS, and even apart from his profound public and academic careers, that's something.

MFS62
Mar 14 2018 05:32 AM
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Edgy MD wrote:
And bam, famed theoretical physicist and cosmologist Stephen Hawking returns to the universe he attempted to understand like no other.

Survived 55 years from diagnosis to death with ALS, and even apart from his profound public and academic careers, that's something.

And he died on Albert Einstein's birthday.
There's something cosmic about that.
RIP.
Later

d'Kong76
Mar 23 2018 10:42 AM
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Wayne Huizenga, 80

Frayed Knot
Mar 28 2018 10:31 AM
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Linda Brown - 75 - she and her father once went up against the (Topeka, KS) Board of Education.

Fman99
Mar 28 2018 12:08 PM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
Linda Brown - 75 - she and her father once went up against the (Topeka, KS) Board of Education.

Her and her sister spoke at my college in the 1990's. They were fantastic public speakers.

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 02 2018 09:54 AM
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Winnie Mandela, 81.

Frayed Knot
Apr 02 2018 01:00 PM
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Steven Bochco - 74
The man behind HILL STREET BLUES, L. A. LAW, DOOGIE HOWSER, NYPD BLUE, among other stuff.
For those who go way back, he got his start as a writer for IRONSIDE, the Raymond Burr follow-up to his PERRY MASON series.

Fman99
Apr 02 2018 01:22 PM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
Steven Bochco - 74
The man behind HILL STREET BLUES, L. A. LAW, DOOGIE HOWSER, NYPD BLUE, among other stuff.
For those who go way back, he got his start as a writer for IRONSIDE, the Raymond Burr follow-up to his PERRY MASON series.

Plus Cop Rock, lest we forget.

Edgy MD
Apr 02 2018 01:37 PM
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He was a writer on the unintentionally hilarious Delvecchio, a detective drama starring a pre-Taxi Judd Hirsch.

[youtube]lzTDjCLD_U4[/youtube]

Delvecchio cast members Michael Conrad and Charles Haid would become part of the Hill Street Blues ensemble, as well as semi-regulars George Wyner and James B. Sikking (who would also be part of the Doogie Howser cast).

Watch that opening if only for the action-packed thrill of watching Delvecchio ponder a crime scene while absent-mindedly pointing his own revolver at his face.

Lefty Specialist
Apr 02 2018 05:02 PM
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There used to be a guy who sold beer from the back of his bicycle to us softball players on the Great Lawn (this is truly back in the day). One year David the beer guy wasn't there, and it turns out he was one of the actors on Cop Rock. I had no idea until I watched the show (once) and there was David the Beer Guy as Officer Andy Campo! The series got cancelled and the next year he was back selling Budweisers in the park, but saying it was the best experience of his life. Then the next year he was on Sisters and we had to make do with the random guys who charged more and didn't keep it as cold. He never came back after that.

Looked him up and he's had a modest career, http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0316344/ but I'm guessing he's still doing something on the side.

Fman99
Apr 02 2018 07:22 PM
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Ugh, wrong thread, nothing to see here.

Lefty Specialist
Apr 09 2018 09:30 AM
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Chuck McCann, 83

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 09 2018 02:15 PM
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I wasn't familiar with Chuck McCann, but look at one of the cartoon characters for whom he provided a voice!

Zvon
Apr 09 2018 04:02 PM
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Awww, I loved Chuck. I grew up with him.
:(

Edgy MD
Apr 09 2018 05:47 PM
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I associate him with the 1968 version The Heart Is a Lonely Hunter.

Edgy MD
Apr 09 2018 06:20 PM
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Pictured below is young adult me and my Uncle Jimmy, who we celebrated today following his passing at the age of 80. Jim contracted polio at the age of four, went through a few dozen operations and became a bitter and wild young man. When my dad was a young cop, he'd come in from a long shift and then get a call to pick up his brother-in-law following some bar fight or car wreck.

He got his shit together, and managed a helluva successful life, including 50 years of sobriety, and his accordion was a joy to listen to.

[fimg=500:zbgj7zpr]https://metsrostercentral.files.wordpress.com/2018/04/jim.jpg[/fimg:zbgj7zpr]

41Forever
Apr 09 2018 06:29 PM
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Sorry to hear about your loss, Edgy.

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 09 2018 06:40 PM
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My condolences as well.

d'Kong76
Apr 09 2018 07:18 PM
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Condolences to you and your family.

Edgy MD
Apr 09 2018 07:42 PM
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Thanks.

Eighty years is a good run for a man who barely survived Kindergarten. It was a life worth celebrating.

My cousin told me something I never knew. They could rarely watch cartoons on Saturday morning. They'd come downstairs and there'd invariably be a stranger sleeping on the couch. At the Friday night AA meeting, he'd bring home some broken newcomer whose life had only just recently fallen apart, which is a nice full circle from having been the drunk waking up on my parents' couch.

I just realized that up above, it looks like he's teaching me to roll up my sleeves and manspread.

SteveJRogers
Apr 09 2018 07:55 PM
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RIP :(

Zvon
Apr 09 2018 08:48 PM
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So sorry for your loss Edge. :(

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Apr 09 2018 11:51 PM
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I'm sorry, man.

Lefty Specialist
Apr 10 2018 08:28 AM
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Condolences. Always something happy about a guy who can play the accordion.

Fman99
Apr 10 2018 08:58 PM
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Lefty Specialist wrote:
Condolences. Always something happy about a guy who can play the accordion.

Was the childhood instrument of my own father, and, I reckon, lots of other kids who grew up in Queens in the 1950s.

He became, in his adult life, a pianist with a much stronger right hand and a left that played bass notes in a very accordionish, punch-each-note-like-a-button fashion. He would bust out the squeeze box once in a while to give us a titter.

G-Fafif
Apr 14 2018 11:22 AM
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In threes, they say...

Art Bell, 72, overnight radio host who explored the paranormal from Coast to Coast.

William Nack, 77, wrote about horse racing like Secretariat participated in it.

Milos Forman, 86, director of One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, Amadeus, Hair, among many indelible titles.

TransMonk
Apr 14 2018 02:56 PM
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I listened to Art Bell many times in my youthful overnight travels.

RIP

Edgy MD
Apr 14 2018 05:24 PM
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A mashup supercut of One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, Amadeus, and Hair would be awesome.

MFS62
Apr 14 2018 05:49 PM
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I got a news flash update on my phone from my local paper because Forman had been living in Northwestern Connecticut and died in nearby Danbury Hospital.
RIP.
Later

Frayed Knot
Apr 14 2018 07:56 PM
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TransMonk wrote:
I listened to Art Bell many times in my youthful overnight travels.

RIP

Bell's show, 'Coast to Coast' lives on through various hosts though Bell left the show a while back. I never heard Bell during his time but I catch the show every once in a while now during sleepless bouts.
I don't believe a word of this UFO stuff but I do have an odd fascination with those who do and the host(s) of C-t-C are funny in that both the existence and the gov't coverup of alien visits to this planet aren't
even a question in their minds so they just speculate on when the feds are going to finally fess up and release all the info that they've somehow managed to keep secret from all of us over the last six or seven decades.

Due to the presence of John Podesta (a BIG UFO guy) on Hillary's staff and a thrown-away line HRC once gave to a UFO question ("I'll certainly do my best to get all information out there') many of these guys
were convinced this country was just weeks away from finally learning the "truth". But, alas, the suppression continues.

MFS62
Apr 15 2018 07:10 AM
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As I posted a while ago, I was one of the people who saw the famous "Brewster New York sighting".
It came over my house at about 200 feet. My neighbor, as well as hundreds of people in NY and Western CT, also saw it.
And the official explanation, low powered home built aircraft flying in formation, was bullshit then and is still bullshit today.
I have shelves of aviation books and this was no group of aircraft. It was silent and the distance between the lights never varied. Even military stunt flying groups like the Blue Angels can't do that. (I saw it for over five minutes, as it slowly move toward the Northeast and then sped away.)
But I never listened to the show.

Later

TransMonk
Apr 15 2018 05:57 PM
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R. Lee Ermey, â€˜Full Metal Jacketâ€™ Golden Globe Nominee, Dies at 74

Benjamin Grimm
Apr 15 2018 06:19 PM
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Fman99
Apr 15 2018 07:31 PM
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He was great in everything.

MFS62
Apr 16 2018 07:58 AM
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He was one of our customers.
He bought silver coins for the metal, not the numismatics.
RIP, Gunny.
Thank you for your service.

Later

Frayed Knot
Apr 16 2018 05:34 PM
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Magician/actor Harry Anderson - 65

MFS62
Apr 16 2018 07:37 PM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
Magician/actor Harry Anderson - 65

At least now he'll be with Mel Torme.
RIP, Harry.
You made me laugh.

Later

d'Kong76
Apr 17 2018 11:06 AM
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John Amirante, 83

Chad Ochoseis
Apr 17 2018 03:06 PM
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NPR's Carl Kasell signs off at 84.

G-Fafif
Apr 17 2018 06:02 PM
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Former First Lady and presidential mother Barbara Bush, 92.

Frayed Knot
Apr 17 2018 06:13 PM
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Chad Ochoseis wrote:
NPR's Carl Kasell signs off at 84.

But his voice will live on via various answering machines all over the country.

Frayed Knot
Apr 17 2018 06:17 PM
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G-Fafif wrote:
Former First Lady and presidential mother Barbara Bush, 92.

Word of her failing health just started to surface over the last day or two.
Prior to that I think many of us assumed that George would be the one of that duo to go first.
Married for 73+ years!!

41Forever
Apr 17 2018 06:34 PM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
G-Fafif wrote:
Former First Lady and presidential mother Barbara Bush, 92.

Word of her failing health just started to surface over the last day or two.
Prior to that I think many of us assumed that George would be the one of that duo to go first.
Married for 73+ years!!

A very classy and approachable person. Godspeed.

Nymr83
Apr 17 2018 06:47 PM
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Frayed Knot wrote:

Married for 73+ years!!

wow.

Frayed Knot
Apr 17 2018 06:58 PM
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Nymr83 wrote:
Frayed Knot wrote:

Married for 73+ years!!

wow.

January 1945. She was still six months shy of turning 20, he was almost exactly a year older and about to be shipped out to the Pacific.

I guess Nixon was the last President to out-live his spouse.

Frayed Knot
Apr 18 2018 10:30 AM
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Bruno Sammartino - 82

And, yes, that was his given name: Bruno Leopoldo Francesco Sammartino
Prior to ten minutes ago, if I were to be asked when Bruno died my guess would have landed somewhere during the Carter and/or Reagan administrations.

Chad Ochoseis
Apr 18 2018 11:21 AM
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Frayed Knot wrote:

I guess Nixon was the last President to out-live his spouse.

Only two other possibilities between Nixon and GHWB, so far, as both Carters are still alive and kicking. Carter always surprises me, as the news about three years ago was that he had a brain tumor and was given only a few months to live.

Before Nixon, the last president to outlive his spouse was Hoover, who outlived his Mrs. by 20 years.

Frayed Knot wrote:
Bruno Sammartino - 82

My memory - and I was never a big wrestling fan - was that he was the last pro wrestler who was a true wrestler as much as he was an entertainer.

Edgy MD
Apr 18 2018 01:53 PM
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Barbara Bush tossing out the first pitch for the team formerly part-owned by her ... uncle-in-law?

41Forever
Apr 18 2018 02:17 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:
Barbara Bush tossing out the first pitch for the team formerly part-owned by her ... uncle-in-law?

Great find!

cooby
Apr 18 2018 06:37 PM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
Bruno Sammartino - 82

And, yes, that was his given name: Bruno Leopoldo Francesco Sammartino
Prior to ten minutes ago, if I were to be asked when Bruno died my guess would have landed somewhere during the Carter and/or Reagan administrations.

Wow I am surprised as well... I thought he was way younger than this for one thing.

Or older. Wrestlers are hard to pin down.

Frayed Knot
Apr 18 2018 07:04 PM
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I thought he was much older ... as in, long dead by this point.
I didn't follow wrestling as a kid (or ever for that matter) but I heard the names and for some reason had the idea that Bruno's time was well before my time [turns out it wasn't] which would have made him
an old man several decades ago. And, let's face it, most ex-wresters have a tough time getting past 60 much less making it to 80+

cooby
Apr 18 2018 07:09 PM
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Yeah I know... I havenâ€™t heard that name for some time but just assumed he aged naturally (ha ha!) and have lost track of time.

Sadness.

G-Fafif
Apr 19 2018 09:02 AM
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For WOW! factor in the mid-'70s among young men in the sixth-seventh grade demographic, Bruno Sammartino was right up there with Bruce Lee and Evel Knievel. All three were discussed in excited tones that the professional athletes covered by newspapers, magazines and sportscasts, even those who led local teams to playoffs and championships, never matched.

MFS62
Apr 21 2018 06:17 PM
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Verne Troyer
The actor who played Mini-Me in the Austin Powers movies, at 49:
https://www.ktbs.com/news/national/vern ... 889df.html
He was one of my company's customers.
That's two who died recently (the other was R. Lee Ermey).
If I were ____________________ (can't tell you, but he's a famous musician and big time coin collector), I'd be cautious.

Later

Rockin' Doc
Apr 21 2018 07:39 PM
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Avi. Wrong thread.

Frayed Knot
Apr 22 2018 05:06 AM
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Nabi Tajima - 117
The Japanese woman was recognized as the oldest person in the world and as the last person alive born in the 19th century (Aug 4, 1900)

Ted Bergling, aka: Avicii - 28
I know virtually nothing about this Swedish-born club DJ except from this SNL video mocking the confounding (to me anyway) concept of the dance hall DJ as a multi-millionaire mega-star.

[youtube]XCawU6BE8P8[/youtube]

Frayed Knot
Apr 22 2018 08:52 AM
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William Nack, 77, wrote about horse racing like Secretariat participated in it.

From Nack's long-form piece in Sports Illustrated following the death of Secretariat (with some accompanying Neil Leifer photography) is his description of 'Big Red's' win at The Belmont Stakes:

I stood in awe. I had never seen a horse so fit. The Derby and Preakness had wound him as tight as a watch, and he seemed about to burst out of his coat. I had no idea what to expect that day in the Belmont, with him going a mile and a half, but I sensed we would see more of him than we had ever seen before.

Secretariat ran flat into legend, started running right out of the gate and never stopped, ran poor Sham into defeat around the first turn and down the backstretch and sprinted clear, opening two lengths, four, then five. He dashed to the three-quarter pole in 1:09â…˜, the fastest six-furlong clocking in Belmont history. I dropped my head and cursed Turcotte: What is he thinking about? Has he lost his mind? The colt raced into the far turn, opening seven lengths past the half-mile pole. The timer flashed his astonishing mile mark: 1:34â…•!

I was seeing it but not believing it. Secretariat was still sprinting. The four horses behind him disappeared. He opened 10. Then 12. Halfway around the turn he was 14 in front ... 15 ... 16 ... 17. Belmont Park began to shake. The whole place was on its feet. Turning for home, Secretariat was 20 in front, having run the mile and a quarter in 1:59 flat, faster than his Derby time.

He came home alone. He opened his lead to 25 ... 26 ... 27 ... 28. As rhythmic as a rocking horse, he never missed a beat. I remember seeing Turcotte look over to the timer, and I looked over, too. It was blinking 2:19, 2:20. The record was 2:26â…—. Turcotte scrubbed on the colt, opening 30 lengths, finally 31. The clock flashed crazily: 2:22 ... 2:23. The place was one long, deafening roar. The colt seemed to dive for the finish, snipping it clean at 2:24.

I bolted up the press box stairs with exultant shouts and there yielded a part of myself to that horse forever.

G-Fafif
Apr 24 2018 01:37 PM
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Bob Dorough, the great jazz musician and voice of so much Schoolhouse Rock, 94.

41Forever
Apr 24 2018 02:56 PM
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G-Fafif wrote:
Bob Dorough, the great jazz musician and voice of so much Schoolhouse Rock, 94.

Schoolhouse Rock is awesome -- and maybe needs its own thread. This week I was singing "Conjunction Junction" to justify a proofing change in our commencement program. Some of those tunes hold up well -- "Unpack Your Adjectives" is my favorite.

[youtube]NkuuZEey_bs[/youtube]

The tribute CD is pretty good, with some big names, like Moby.

G-Fafif
May 03 2018 11:36 AM
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Bill Torrey, architect of the Islanders dynasty, 83.

A Boy Named Seo
May 11 2018 09:43 AM
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Scott Hutchinson, 36, of Scottish band Frightened Rabbit, apparently committed suicide. He'd gone missing a few days ago and his family and band mates were all worried because he's had a history struggling with mental illness, and has written beautiful songs about battling depression and suicide.

Their 2007 album "Midnight Organ Fight" is a crushing post-breakup album that grapples with themes of sadness, loneliness, sex, self-worth and it's one of my desert island all-time favs. Super sad over this. RIP Scott.

41Forever
May 14 2018 12:12 PM
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Margot Kidder, who played Lois Lane and later bravely shared her challenges with mental wellness, has died.

[url]https://www.freep.com/story/life/2018/05/14/margot-kidder-who-played-lois-lane-superman-dies-age-69/608034002/

G-Fafif
May 14 2018 01:29 PM
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Chuck Knox, a member of Weeb Ewbank's staff when the Jets won the Super Bowl and a successful head coach in his own right, 86.

Ashie62
May 14 2018 09:01 PM
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Stuart "Stu Boy'' King, original drummer for the Dictators, Pancreatic cancer

sharpie
May 15 2018 10:04 AM
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Tom Wolfe, 87. He of THE RIGHT STUFF, THE BONFIRE OF THE VANITIES, THE ELECTRIC KOOL-AID ACID TEST and others.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/15/obit ... v=top-news

RealityChuck
May 19 2018 01:46 AM
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Just learned about his one: Deborah Coleman, 61, died April 12.

Coleman was a great blues singer and guitarist.

[youtube:2j1erfho]3XBV6i2xaAQ[/youtube:2j1erfho]

G-Fafif
May 21 2018 11:11 AM
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Richard Goodwin, celebrated speechwriter for LBJ and RFK, 86. Married Doris Kearns in 1975. Was portrayed by Rob Morrow in Quiz Show.

Edgy MD
May 22 2018 09:31 AM
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Secretly met with Che Guevara in 1961 on behalf of the Kennedy Administration.

Wrote Johnson's civil rights speech (widely considered his greatest), and coined the term "The Great Society."

batmagadanleadoff
May 22 2018 10:21 PM
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Philip Roth, great american writer, who gave us the ficitonal baseball team, the Ruppert Mundys, and "c*unt crazy" (chapter four) Alex Portnoy, 85.

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[fimg=444:3lbd0x9u]https://flavorwire.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/don-draper-portnoys-complaint.jpg?w=600[/fimg:3lbd0x9u]

https://www.newyorker.com/books/double- ... new-yorker

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/22/obit ... -dead.html

G-Fafif
May 22 2018 11:08 PM
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"Phil?"

â€œYes.â€

â€œItâ€™s Dad. Youâ€™ve never seen anything like it. Mets won in the sixteenth.â€

â€œGreat. I was going to phone you a little later.â€

â€œI only just got up. I knew youâ€™d be wondering. They were down three in the ninth. Did I tell you this last night, about the ninth?â€

â€œDonâ€™t worry. Tell me everything.â€

â€œGet this. They get three runs in the ninth. They go ahead four three. That pitcher is in there.â€

â€œKerfeld, for Houston?â€

â€œNo. For the Mets. I can never think of his name.â€

â€œMcDowell.â€

â€œNo. The other guy.â€

â€œOrosco.â€

â€œYeah, Morosco. The Mets go ahead four three. Then Houston gets a home run, ties it up four four. In the sixteenth inning the Mets get three runs. They go ahead seven four. Houston gets up. Guy gets on base and the next guy gets a home run. Seven six. And then Kevin Bass strikes out and they won the series.â€

â€œSo They won the series.â€

â€œThey won the series.â€

â€œHowâ€™d the Mets get the three runs?â€

â€œDykstra. Iâ€™m telling you! After Morosco gave up the runs in the sixteenth, Hernandez came out to the mound â€” I just read this in the paper â€” and you know what he said to him? â€˜If you throw another fastball, Iâ€™ll kill you.'â€

â€œI wonder if he would have.â€

â€œI would have,â€ my father said, laughing, and sounding as though whatever had floored him in the spring was a fluke and he was going to live a thousand years.

From Patrimony: A True Story.

Fman99
May 23 2018 03:49 AM
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I loved much of his work.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
May 23 2018 07:05 AM
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Fman99 wrote:
I loved much of his work.

Somehow, bud, I'm not surprised.

(Same here.)

sharpie
May 23 2018 09:38 AM
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Yeah, he was a master. Have read many books of his.

He did, however, switch his allegiance from Mets to Yankees in the late 90s/early 2000s.

Benjamin Grimm
May 23 2018 10:08 AM
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Must have been early onset dementia.

41Forever
May 23 2018 10:22 AM
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We studied "Goodbye Columbus" in a lit class in my first semester in college, and it was one of those, "Wow, college is different!" moments.

Mets Willets Point
May 23 2018 10:29 AM
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Read "Goodbye, Columbus" and don't remember a thing about it except the eponymous song.

Read "Portnoy's Complaint" and was so turned off by the virulent misogyny I swore I'd never read Roth again.

But then a book club made me read "American Pastoral" and it was pretty good actually.

And then I read "The Plot Against America" which was an interesting, if flawed, counterfactual.

And that's my experience with Roth.

G-Fafif
May 23 2018 11:47 AM
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A fairly recent photo. Philip regained his senses late in life.

Edgy MD
May 26 2018 02:20 PM
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Take a walk tonight, look up, and think of Alan Bean, the fourth man on the moon, who has passed after 86 years on earth of earthly life and 31 hours of lunar life.

His passing leaves on Buzz Aldrin (#2), David Scott (#7), Charles Duke (#10), and Harrison Schmidt (#12) among the still-living Apollo moonwalkers.

Frayed Knot
May 26 2018 03:47 PM
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Four of the twelve moonwalkers still living, and 13 living among the 24 if you include all the moon orbiters as well as walkers.
Harrison Schmidt, soon to be 83, is the youngest of the surviving baker's dozen. At the other end, Jim Lovell (Apollo 8 & 13) and Frank Borman (8) both turned 90 earlier this year.

The idea that there even might be a time when there would be no living moon men was probably inconceivable to most folks even after the Apollo program was curtailed in December of 1972, two missions earlier than planned.

RealityChuck
May 28 2018 09:32 AM
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Gardner Dozois, science fiction editor and author.

Gardner is best known as the editor of the Year's Best SF volumes, something he's been doing for over 30 years. But within the field he was incredibly respected as an editor and as a person. If you went to any conventions in the northeast, you'd run into him, having a great time and making generous gestures to any new writers there. He was a bon vivant and always included others in the fun.

He won Hugos and Nebulas (I ran into him when he won a Hugo, calling the design of the award "the toilet-seat Hugo") as an editor and writer and was a giant in the field.

Lefty Specialist
May 29 2018 01:34 PM
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"Rosanne", 1 (or 10, depending on how you look at it), highly rated but done in by its star's constant racism and conspiracy-mongering.

https://www.vox.com/culture/2018/5/29/1 ... nceled-abc

d'Kong76
Jun 01 2018 07:16 PM
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Guy on my street died the other day from E Coli. Didn't know him well, but we
often exchanged pleasantries and such. 60 years old, died eating lettuce?

MFS62
Jun 01 2018 07:27 PM
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d'Kong76 wrote:
Guy on my street died the other day from E Coli. Didn't know him well, but we
often exchanged pleasantries and such. 60 years old, died eating lettuce?

Sorry to hear that.
I thought the Romaine Lettuce/ E Coli scare was over.
I loves me some Caesar salad, but that makes me want to wait a while before ordering it again.
Thanks for the heads up.

Later

d'Kong76
Jun 01 2018 07:42 PM
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No heads up or warnings, I'll find out more details over the weekend.

G-Fafif
Jun 02 2018 05:07 PM
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Denny Farrell, state assemblyman from Harlem essentially forever (1975-2017), 86.

batmagadanleadoff
Jun 03 2018 10:13 PM
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Robert Mandan, probably best known for his his role as the womanizing Chester Tate on the late 70s sitcom, Soap, 86.

I loved Soap and its brilliant ensemble cast of comedic talents. Except for that Baio kid as Billy Tate, the annoying pitcher on the Bad News Bears. Boy did that kid ruin a scene. Every scene.

Edgy MD
Jun 05 2018 06:23 AM
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Dwight "The Catch" Clark dies at 61, suffering a rapid decline after being diagnosed with ALS.

Football.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 08 2018 05:40 AM
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Anthony Bourdain, 61, suicide.

Geez

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 08 2018 05:40 AM
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I know! I'm stunned by this.

Fman99
Jun 08 2018 08:41 PM
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
Fman99 wrote:
I loved much of his work.

Somehow, bud, I'm not surprised.

(Same here.)

A sex obsessed, New York Jew, struggling with a lifetime of figuring out how to keep his libido in check and blend in to a Goyim America. Yeah, so, maybe, Portnoy is my patronus.

batmagadanleadoff
Jun 11 2018 07:57 AM
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Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 11 2018 08:56 AM

Danny Kirwan, 68 --- dual lead guitarist alongside Peter Green in the blues version of Fleetwood Mac. Also hung around the Mac to play with Christine McVie and Bob Welch. Got kicked out of the band before the arrival of Buckingham and Nicks. One of the sweetest and most recognizable vibratos out there.

Edgy MD
Jun 11 2018 08:52 AM
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For a long time, the guitar chair was considered something of a curse in Fleetwood Mac, with bad acid trips, alcoholism, heroin addiction, mental illness, a cult, and the usual fidelity betrayals short-circuiting a bunch of promising careers before Lindsay Buckingham arrived. It's hard to think of Lindsay as the embodiment of stability, but he apparently was by the standards of the Mac.

Fman99
Jun 11 2018 09:00 AM
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A couple of my quick faves from the Danny Kirwan years. This one is both him and Peter Green in a dueling fashion. It starts out as a pretty typical-for-them late 60's sound reminiscent of what Green did with "Black Magic Woman," in terms of percussion and feel, until the last 90 seconds, where the tempo and feel of this song dramatically shifts. For the better. I love this outro, maybe one of my all time favorite changes in direction mid-song from this era, from any band.

[youtube:38xd899b]ssHffZNfPuA[/youtube:38xd899b]

Fman99
Jun 11 2018 09:03 AM
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From the "Future Games" album, this one, where Kirwan was the songwriter and lead vocalist. Really a dreamy song with nice harmonies and chord progressions.

[youtube:3lmhpfsj]o0zGGQLb0Z4[/youtube:3lmhpfsj]

Fman99
Jun 11 2018 09:13 AM
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Them doing their biggest hit from the initial, blues based incarnation of the band. Kirwan is the mop top stage right of the singer, who plays the solo in this rendition.

[youtube:1ufvtdy5]0yq-Fw7C26Y[/youtube:1ufvtdy5]

batmagadanleadoff
Jun 11 2018 09:27 AM
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Check out Fman, the big Kirwan fan. I'm loving it. And check out this video to really "see" Kirwan in action on the beck and call with Peter Green.
Kirwan's playing his '58-'60 era Les Paul burst, which he'd eventually trade for a three pickup Gibson custom -- which he then smashed and destroyed in anger when he was kicked out of FM. If he'd held onto the burst, he woulda had himself a guitar worth, perhaps, a coupl'a hundred grand.

[youtube:2fb1hrla]HQ8AcEYTEFY[/youtube:2fb1hrla]

batmagadanleadoff
Jun 11 2018 09:37 AM
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One for the road --- the Mac, Barbi Benton, Arte Johnson and Hugh Hefner, performing Rattlesnake Shake on Playboy After Dark and then Coming Your Way over the closing credits.

[youtube:1acoq4gf]0FJ17x0IoKs[/youtube:1acoq4gf]

Fman99
Jun 11 2018 12:24 PM
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Those are both great also, thanks for posting.

Frayed Knot
Jun 12 2018 09:44 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:
Dwight "The Catch" Clark dies at 61, suffering a rapid decline after being diagnosed with ALS.

[fimg=150]http://s3.amazonaws.com/37assets/svn/the_catch.jpg[/fimg]

Football.

I missed this entirely.
And even though that's partially understandable since it occurred during my recent 'dark' period, by the latter half of this week I was killing time by watching a variety of TV sports shows -- which normally
can't get enough football coverage -- and it's like the story never existed. Gossip within the sport gets recycled and analyzed to within an inch of its life; yet it seems that stories concerning the death of a
great-player/media-hero that EVERY football fan knew can't go away fast enough for those who exist to promote the sport.

Edgy MD
Jun 13 2018 05:14 AM
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Exactly. Football fatalities damage the brand and so get only passing nods, even for guys whose reach transcendended the sport, and whose deaths can only be speculatively linked to the game.

Edgy MD
Jun 14 2018 07:55 AM
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Throw down a dunk in honor of Anne Donovan, legendary basketball player, coach, and giantess out of New Jersey's Paramus Catholic.

[fimg=350:1j7sop6b]https://www.wxxv25.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/180614-anne-donovan-playing-12a_3d4c75e1ef01ad15934601c69a96ac09.fit-760w-1.jpg[/fimg:1j7sop6b] [fimg=350:1j7sop6b]https://orig00.deviantart.net/ef6a/f/2016/345/3/3/interview_with_anne_donovan_by_zaratustraelsabio-darbtue.jpg[/fimg:1j7sop6b]

SteveJRogers
Jun 21 2018 05:21 PM
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Charles Krauthammer

Should I be disappointed by all the Rot In Hell tweets and social platform posts that are simply reacting to where he worked for many years?

Edgy MD
Jun 21 2018 05:34 PM
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A little, yeah.

Frayed Knot
Jun 21 2018 06:27 PM
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C'mon, how 'bout a lot more than just a little?

This is just a continuation and burgeoning of the idea that because someone disagrees with you on issues then he or she is a horrible human being who deserves to rot in hell, etc.

41Forever
Jun 21 2018 06:56 PM
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I had the pleasure of meeting him once. Very pleasant to speak to. Sharp mind and an interesting writer. I had been reading his stuff and watching him on television for years before learning about his physical challenges.

Frayed Knot
Jun 21 2018 07:23 PM
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And, btw, a huge baseball fan.

SteveJRogers
Jun 21 2018 07:39 PM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
C'mon, how 'bout a lot more than just a little?

This is just a continuation and burgeoning of the idea that because someone disagrees with you on issues then he or she is a horrible human being who deserves to rot in hell, etc.

I closed my Twitter app after seeing someone say that his opinions did great harm to our country.

Iâ€™d say that sort of brainless â€œhot takeâ€ should be reserved for those in opinion/infotainment show hosts roles like a Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Rachel Maddow or even a Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert, but even if they gave him the host job on the show he was a panelist on, he wasnâ€™t an over the top troll-like water carrier for his â€œsideâ€ like the names I listed.

But I suppose thatâ€™s part of the â€œsports team/name brandâ€ way of labeling yourself that the discourse has become.

Edgy MD
Jun 21 2018 08:16 PM
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Plus, he kept his dignity and composure and drive to excel, and his charity, even though his life as a paraplegic was something many would consider a living hell.

Yeah, I'd've liked to see him spurn Sean Hannity and the many far less intelligent and far less worthy people who rode his coattails until they surpassed him, but just about everybody out there is guilty of toadyism right now, so I doubt spitting into his grave is going to help.

Frayed Knot
Jun 21 2018 09:31 PM
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Krauthammer was also one of the few FOX-ies who did NOT abandon his conservative principles in the blind support of Trumpism. He remained steadfastly opposed as did his friend George Will
although Will got canned for it (I believe it was explained away as one of those 'his contract was up and we chose not to ...).
After not seeing Krauthammer on camera for a while I was afraid the same had happened to him but apparently his absence was due to the illness about which I'm only hearing today.

Nymr83
Jun 22 2018 05:02 AM
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His illness probably prevented the Trump Channel from canning him for optics reasons, because unlike Trump* they understand when something just LOOKS terrible.

*did you see Trump's wife's jacket? I normally think the press is just full of shit attacking her wardrobe but come on. In what context are the words "I dont care" ever going to come off well? But I guess its true, she just doesnt care what anyone thinks of her.

SteveJRogers
Jun 22 2018 07:06 AM
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Nymr83 wrote:
His illness probably prevented the Trump Channel from canning him for optics reasons, because unlike Trump* they understand when something just LOOKS terrible.

*did you see Trump's wife's jacket? I normally think the press is just full of shit attacking her wardrobe but come on. In what context are the words "I dont care" ever going to come off well? But I guess its true, she just doesnt care what anyone thinks of her.

Not to cause this to be splintered off but I get shocked when Juan Williams gets replaced on The Five by someone who shares his ideology!

Edgy MD
Jun 22 2018 07:13 AM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
Krauthammer was also one of the few FOX-ies who did NOT abandon his conservative principles in the blind support of Trumpism. He remained steadfastly opposed as did his friend George Will

Yeah, I should give him credit in that regard. There was a line in toadying that the rest of his network crossed and he did not.

although Will got canned for it (I believe it was explained away as one of those 'his contract was up and we chose not to ...).
Frayed Knot wrote:
After not seeing Krauthammer on camera for a while I was afraid the same had happened to him but apparently his absence was due to the illness about which I'm only hearing today.

I hadn't seen Krauthammer on FOX News in forever, but I attributed it to my not watching FOX News. I still read him in The Post when I came across his work, though I can't say I went looking for him.

G-Fafif
Jun 25 2018 07:31 AM
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Dan Ingram, one of the all-time radio personalities and an indispensable part of 77 WABC in its powerhouse Musicradio days. I remember on his 20th anniversary show in 1981 he and Howard Cosell reminiscing over their singing "Meet the Mets" in the studio when Howard was preparing to do the new ballclub's pregame show on its first flagship station. Hardly Ingram's biggest legacy, but a link to what we usually talk about here.

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 25 2018 07:35 AM
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If you remember Dan Ingram, you're in the Honor Group of the Day.

MFS62
Jun 25 2018 07:57 AM
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His show was our "Ingram flingram".
RIP

Later

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Jun 25 2018 07:57 AM
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DAAAAAN! Ingram! (Ing-gram,ing-gram)

Frayed Knot
Jun 25 2018 08:07 AM
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There were times when it was virtually impossible to lose touch with his voice as you walked across a public beach since every third (or more!) beach blanket had a portable radio on playing his show.

RealityChuck
Jun 25 2018 08:17 AM
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G-Fafif wrote:
Dan Ingram, one of the all-time radio personalities and an indispensable part of 77 WABC in its powerhouse Musicradio days. I remember on his 20th anniversary show in 1981 he and Howard Cosell reminiscing over their singing "Meet the Mets" in the studio when Howard was preparing to do the new ballclub's pregame show on its first flagship station. Hardly Ingram's biggest legacy, but a link to what we usually talk about here.
\
Ingram was my favorite WABC DJ by far. (Far better than the execrable Cousin Brucie).

He was responsible for the success of the Youngbloods, by taking their two-year-old song "Get Together" and using for a promo. It turned it into a hit.

Frayed Knot
Jun 25 2018 06:40 PM
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It took all day for the Daily News to get the news of Ingram's death on their website, and the Post still hasn't touched the story.
Especially considering the shit they do put up there, that's disgraceful.

Edgy MD
Jun 25 2018 07:26 PM
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Why hate Cousin Brucie?

Among other things, he and Ingram loved each other, even though they probably met in the scrum of New York jocks throwing elbows at each other to try to get exclusive access to the Beatles.

MFS62
Jun 25 2018 07:39 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:
Why hate Cousin Brucie?

Among other things, he and Ingram loved each other, even though they probably met in the scrum of New York jocks throwing elbows at each other to try to get exclusive access to the Beatles.

Cousin Brucie was the DJ playing music for the folks lounging around the pool at the Nevele (Catskill Resort) when my wife and I went there in 1967. The tennis pro was some guy named Arthur Ashe.
We have fond memories of Cousin Brucie.

Later

RealityChuck
Jun 26 2018 08:45 AM
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Edgy MD wrote:
Why hate Cousin Brucie?

Among other things, he and Ingram loved each other, even though they probably met in the scrum of New York jocks throwing elbows at each other to try to get exclusive access to the Beatles.
He's purely obnoxious -- everything that's wrong with a top-40 DJ: Loud, unfunny, babbling instead of talking, etc. I couldn't listen to his show for more then ten minutes, and then only if he played "Hey Jude" during that time.

He may be a nice guy in person, but I never could stand his radio show.

G-Fafif
Jun 26 2018 10:17 AM
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Apropos not of his on-air career (which continues via SiriusXM) but one isolated Mets-related moment, Howie Rose had Cousin Brucie on Mets Extra as his pregame guest for a midweek day game in 1987. Howie gave him a very warm and generous introduction, noting how much it meant to him as a kid who grew up listening to him play Beatles records to have him on. Bruce wasn't rude by any means, but incredibly full of himself, telling a story about being mobbed while sitting at Shea during Game Seven of the World Series the previous October. "They weren't Mets fans," he told Howie. "They were Cousin Brucie fans."

I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess they were at least as much Mets fans in that context as anything.

Mr. Morrow wrote an interesting memoir in the late '80s, though he didn't include that anecdote.

Lefty Specialist
Jun 26 2018 12:23 PM
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Cousin Brucie has a show these days on Sirius XM 60's, and he's unlistenable.

Edgy MD
Jun 26 2018 12:38 PM
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I listen to it plenty, Cousin Lefty.

Mets Willets Point
Jun 26 2018 04:28 PM
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I remember listening to Ingram on 92 WKTU before it was turned into K-ROCK.

41Forever
Jun 27 2018 10:52 AM
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Seeing reports that Joe Jackson, the music family patriarch, not the shoeless ballplayer, has died.

TransMonk
Jun 27 2018 12:14 PM
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Also, NOT the guy imploring you to Look Sharp!.

I was confused for the slightest of moments.

41Forever
Jun 27 2018 02:16 PM
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TransMonk wrote:
Also, NOT the guy imploring you to Look Sharp!.

I was confused for the slightest of moments.

Yikes! Good call! Living, breathing and piano-playing JJ is coming to town next month and I want to go see him.

Edgy MD
Jun 27 2018 03:04 PM
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Not dead, although I did hear that some big shot threatened him in a bar recently, insulting his clothes, before backing him into a corner, smoking his cigarettes, drinking his beer, and insinuating that JJ was weak.

Frightening shit, but Joe reportedly kept his cool. Apparently got his revenge too when he made off with the bully's watch and wallet.

41Forever
Jun 27 2018 03:28 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:
Not dead, although I did hear that some big shot threatened him in a bar recently, insulting his clothes, before backing him into a corner, smoking his cigarettes, drinking his beer, and insinuating that JJ was weak.

Frightening shit, but Joe reportedly kept his cool. Apparently got his revenge too when he made off with the bully's watch and wallet.

Bad ass. Joe deserves his own thread!

Lefty Specialist
Jun 28 2018 11:50 AM
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Edgy MD wrote:
Not dead, although I did hear that some big shot threatened him in a bar recently, insulting his clothes, before backing him into a corner, smoking his cigarettes, drinking his beer, and insinuating that JJ was weak.

Frightening shit, but Joe reportedly kept his cool. Apparently got his revenge too when he made off with the bully's watch and wallet.

That's some Jumpin' Jive right there.

RealityChuck
Jun 28 2018 01:41 PM
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Harlan Ellison

Harlan was a giant in the field, and one of the greats of the short story. In his prime, he was outstanding. The list of his great stories is very long: "I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream," "A Boy and His Dog," "Jeffty is Five," "'Repent, Harlequin' said the Ticktockman,'" "Crazy as a Soup Sandwich," "Adrift Just Off the Islets of Langerhans," and hundreds more. (He was as well known for his titles as for his stories himself. He won more awards than just about any author in the field.

He also worked in TV. It's no coincidence that some of the best SF shows ever -- The Outer Limits, Star Trek, Babylon 5, The Twilight Zone (1985 version) -- had him involved.

As an anthologies, he edited the two Dangerous Visions anthology.

Harlan was prickly, a lover of the spotlight, and caustic to enemies. But he was also a loyal and generous friend.

And a helluva writer.

Zvon
Jun 30 2018 06:15 PM
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RealityChuck wrote:
And a helluva writer.

I agree. Pitched one of the best Start trek episodes ever. I don't know if you could say he wrote it.

[fimg=300]http://rzzy0b736k-flywheel.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/ST-CEF02-coverSUB.jpg[/fimg]

Very interesting story of how the Ellison episode evolved into it's final version.
I knew the peripherals but not the juicy stuff. And years after, Roddenberry, Shatner, Nimoy, & Kelly listed it as a top 3 episode of all time. #1 on Roddenberry's and Kelley's list. But what a headache it was to get it to the screen.

[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_City_on_the_Edge_of_Forever

Edgy MD
Jun 30 2018 08:21 PM
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The funny thing in retrospect about that episode is that DesiLu uses a trash-strewn version Mayberry's Main Street to represent Depression-era New York. Hey, look, there's a Floyd's Barbershop in Hell's Kitchen!

Did I correctly read that the reported Star Trek film to be directed by Quentin Tarantino was going to be based on that episode?

Zvon
Jun 30 2018 08:46 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:
The funny thing in retrospect about that episode is that DesiLu uses a trash-strewn version Mayberry's Main Street to represent Depression-era New York. Hey, look, there's a Floyd's Barbershop in Hell's Kitchen!

Did I correctly read that the reported Star Trek film to be directed by Quentin Tarantino was going to be based on that episode?

This article is a bit dated but has loads of info. Accurate & correct? Who knows (these days).
What caught my attention is that Tarantino pushed for an R rated Trek flick and got the A-Okay.
And the possibility of using a new cast? Just don't!

[url]http://www.businessinsider.com/quentin-tarantinos-star-trek-movie-everything-we-know-2017-12

I'll look for more current info.

MFS62
Jul 05 2018 05:07 PM
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Claude Lanzmann , Director, 92
His most famous film was Shoah, about the Holocaust.
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/j ... -holocaust

Olevai Sholom.

Later

Benjamin Grimm
Jul 08 2018 05:28 AM
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Comics legend Steve Ditko, 90. He co-created (with Stan Lee) Spider-Man and Doctor Strange.

He was famously reclusive, the J.D. Salinger or Greta Garbo of comic-book artists.

Frayed Knot
Jul 15 2018 03:40 PM
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Someone who I hadn't realized was still living until, well, she no longer was as of Friday: Nancy Sinatra (nee: Barbato), 101.
She was Frank's first wife and the mother of all three of his children*: Nancy, Tina, and the late Frank Jr.
This now leaves only Mia Farrow (#3) remaining from among Frank's four wives.

* or at least the acknowledged ones. I say there's no way Ronan Farrow isn't FAS's spawn.

Edgy MD
Jul 15 2018 08:50 PM
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She outlived Frank, Jr.

41Forever
Jul 20 2018 02:53 PM
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You might not have heard of June Horowitz -- unless you are a magician. This trailblazer died recently at age 104, performing magic tricks until the end. She also taught math at the high school and college level.

Check out the obit of this special person. Trust me.

[url]https://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2018/07/magician_june_horowitz_memoria.html

"Anywhere you went with this woman, no matter what country you were in, invariably she would see someone she knew or who knew her," Horowitz's former daughter-in-law Phyllis Horowitz said. "Thousands of magicians knew who she was."

Frayed Knot
Jul 20 2018 06:08 PM
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Adrian Cronauer - 79
The Air Force Disc Jockey whose (largely fictionalized) story was portrayed by Robin Williams in 'GOOD MORNING VIETNAM'

TransMonk
Jul 22 2018 11:33 AM
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Ex-Miami Dolphin head coach (and assistant coach for several NFL teams) Tony Sparano, 56

41Forever
Aug 06 2018 04:21 AM
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Charlotte Rae, who played Mrs. Garrett in Different Strokes and it shockingly long-running spin off Facts of Life, at 92.

[url]https://www.freep.com/story/life/tv/2018/08/05/facts-life-star-charlotte-rae-has-died-92-reports-say/912236002/

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 06 2018 07:08 AM
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She goes all the way back to Car 54 Where Are You?

MFS62
Aug 06 2018 08:00 AM
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41Forever wrote:
Charlotte Rae, who played Mrs. Garrett in Different Strokes and it shockingly long-running spin off Facts of Live, at 92.

[url]https://www.freep.com/story/life/tv/2018/08/05/facts-life-star-charlotte-rae-has-died-92-reports-say/912236002/

My lasting memory of her was when she and Totie Fields were celebrity judges on a tv dance contest show.
There were several spectacular couples but they gave the win to a couple from Anaheim California wearing retro-50's outfits (he had saddle shoes, a plaid sports jacket and a derby) who did the Lindy. They could barely dance without injuring themselves. I was so angry I wrote the station (no reply).
It was probably 50 years ago, but it was such a bad choice that I still think of it every time I have heard her name since.
RIP, Charlotte. Wherever you are now, I hope they don't ask you to judge another dance contest.

Later

41Forever
Aug 06 2018 08:03 AM
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MFS62 wrote:
41Forever wrote:
Charlotte Rae, who played Mrs. Garrett in Different Strokes and it shockingly long-running spin off Facts of Life, at 92.

[url]https://www.freep.com/story/life/tv/2018/08/05/facts-life-star-charlotte-rae-has-died-92-reports-say/912236002/

My lasting memory of her was when she and Totie Fields were celebrity judges on a tv dance contest show.
There were several spectacular couples but they gave the win to a couple from Anaheim California wearing retro-50's outfits (he had saddle shoes, a plaid sports jacket and a derby) who did the Lindy. They could barely dance without injuring themselves. I was so angry I wrote the station (no reply).
It was probably 50 years ago, but it was such a bad choice that I still think of it every time I have heard her name since.
RIP, Charlotte. Wherever you are now, I hope they don't ask you to judge another dance contest.

Later

Now that's a hardcore grudge! And in heaven, she'll always defer to people from Anaheim. It's full of angels.

RealityChuck
Aug 06 2018 09:40 AM
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41Forever wrote:
Charlotte Rae, who played Mrs. Garrett in Different Strokes and it shockingly long-running spin off Facts of Life, at 92.

[url]https://www.freep.com/story/life/tv/2018/08/05/facts-life-star-charlotte-rae-has-died-92-reports-say/912236002/

Never liked either show, but my memory of her was when I saw her at Ford's Theater

No, Lincoln wasn't attending. They were doing Ken Ludwig's "Leading Ladies." Rae and John Astin were playing minor parts, probably to draw the crowd. It was the final performance, so everyone was having fun with their roles and playing to the crowd.

What I do remember most was how small she was. Everyone towered over her; it looked like she was no more than 5' tall.

But she was very funny.

G-Fafif
Aug 16 2018 08:10 AM
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Aretha Franklin, the Queen of Soul, 76.

41Forever
Aug 16 2018 09:33 AM
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The Detroit News lists the Queen's essential recordings. An interesting list. Not sure I agree with all the choices, but what a magnificent career and talent.

A few years ago, when we were doing a lot of work in Detroit, I made an iTunes playlist of great Motown songs. As I searched, I realized that none of the compilations had Aretha songs on them. She's so identified with Detroit that I assumed she was part of the Motown team. Turns out she was on Atlantic.

[url]https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/detroit-city/2018/08/16/aretha-franklin-essential-recordings/1003823002/

batmagadanleadoff
Aug 16 2018 10:34 AM
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What really sucks about Aretha dying is that Aretha's dead. That and now the scumbag fraud Al Sharpton gets to appear all over cable news radio. To talk about how he hit Aretha up for donations, which he probably spent on filet mignon, lobster and champagne.

Frayed Knot
Aug 16 2018 01:05 PM
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Things I didn't know about Aretha until looking up some details on her in the last few days:
- she became a mother for the first time at age 12, and then again at 14
- in all she had four sons with only the 3rd being from either of her (two) husbands
- she also had a half-sister (from among several half-siblings) who was the product of her father and a 12 y/o member of his church

MFS62
Aug 16 2018 02:10 PM
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We knew many things about Aretha, but only FOX knew who she really was:
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/fox ... 43246.html
No respect.
Of course, I don't think any of their viewers would know the difference nor would they care.
RIP, Aretha
Later

Edgy MD
Aug 16 2018 04:42 PM
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Preceded in death by her old man Matt "Guitar" Murphy by only two months.

sharpie
Aug 17 2018 07:36 AM
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When Chuck Berry died I noted how few remaining performers were left from the inaugural class of the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame (Don Everly, Little Richard, Jerry Lee Lewis). But the second class is now even less populated with living persons. The remaining living member of the 1987 R&RHOF class is Smokey Robinson.

The deceased:
Eddie Cochran (1960)
Clyde McPhatter (1972)
Bill Haley (1981)
Muddy Waters (1983)
Marvin Gaye (1984)
Jackie Wilson (1984)
Rick Nelson (1985)
Big Joe Turner (1985)
Roy Orbison (1988) - the first to go who was alive at the induction
Cornell Gunter of the Coasters (1990)
Carl Perkins (1998)
Will Jones of the Coasters (2000)
Carl Gardner of the Coasters (2001)
Billy Guy of the Coasters (2002)
Bo Diddley (2008)
BB King (2015)
Aretha Franklin (2018)

The next class is far more hale including remaining members of the Beach Boys, Beatles, Rolling Stones, Supremes and Temptations plus Dion.

Frayed Knot
Aug 17 2018 03:26 PM
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20 Essential Aretha Franklin songs
... or so says Jim Farber in the NY Times (so maybe it's fake)

Listed chronologically for those not hooked up, but do read the write-ups on each if you can:

SKYLARK -- 1963
I NEVER LOVED A MAN (the Way That I Love You) -- 1967
DO RIGHT WOMAN - DO RIGHT MAN -- 1967
RESPECT (1967)
CHAIN OF FOOLS (1967)
(You Make Me Feel Like) A NATURAL WOMAN -- 1967
DR, FEELGOOD (Love is a Serious Business) -- 1967
THINK -- 1968
I SAY A LITTLE PRAYER -- 1968
DON'T PLAY THAT SONG -- 1970
SPIRIT IN THE DARK -- 1970
BRIDGE OVER TROUBLED WATER -- 1971
SPANISH HARLEM -- 1971
ROCK STEADY -- 1971
DAY DREAMING -- 1972
YOUNG, GIFTED AND BLACK -- 1972
AMAZING GRACE -- 1972
UNTIL YOU COME BACK TO ME (That's What I'm Gonna Do) -- 1973
FREEWAY OF LOVE -- 1985
I KNEW YOU WERE WAITING (For Me) -- 1987

oe: a lot of overlap with the Detroit Free Press list from above

41Forever
Aug 17 2018 03:45 PM
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No one but me with love for "Who's Zoomin' Who"

[youtube:3u09ylui]pOjjxXwjglM[/youtube:3u09ylui]

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Aug 17 2018 03:52 PM
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Jim Farber in the Times! He was a longtime Daily Snooze music guy.

Apropos of nothing, my old school-paper colleague is now the Post's music critic.

MFS62
Aug 17 2018 06:45 PM
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41Forever wrote:
No one but me with love for "Who's Zoomin' Who"

My wife likes that song, too.
Later

Frayed Knot
Aug 17 2018 06:52 PM
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I'm sure Don McGee will play an Aretha set on his 'Mixed Bag' show on WFUV Saturday afternoon.
Were I programming it I could go for a set with: I NEVER LOVED A MAN; CHAIN OF FOOLS; THINK; and maybe even SAY A LITTLE PRAYER, but I'll see what he has up his sleeve.

Of course I haven't gotten around to listening to his show from last week yet so this one may take me a while.

Fman99
Aug 17 2018 07:40 PM
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First, Aretha doing "The Weight," by the Band, and featuring the superlative Duane Allman on slide guitar.

[youtube:10b9s7yz]wta5GU3FNhA[/youtube:10b9s7yz]

My other favorite, this time singing a Stevie Wonder song. There are my personal faves.

[youtube:10b9s7yz]bJZwcaWResA[/youtube:10b9s7yz]

Frayed Knot
Aug 17 2018 07:59 PM
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As several people noted on Thursday -- including Howie Rose during Game #1 of the DH -- Aretha died on the same day as both Elvis and Babe Ruth.
Probably few but Howie, however, pointed out that that means the date marks the death of a Queen, a King, and a Sultan.
Not a good day for royalty.

Edgy MD
Aug 17 2018 11:05 PM
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Other Royalty Dying on August 16

[list][*]King of the Delta Blues Singers Robert Johnson[/*:m]
[*]Count Dracula Bela Lugosi[/*:m]
[*]The Earl of Snohomish Earl Averill[/*:m][/list:u]

Rockin' Doc
Aug 18 2018 08:39 PM
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A great voice and talent was extinguished with the passing of Aretha Franklin. RIP Aretha.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Aug 18 2018 10:38 PM
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I'll go further: with regard to her artistic peak (1967-1975), her range (old-school gospel to jazz to "Think" to "Nessun Dorma" on 20 minutes' notice); to her unparalleled ability to retire/claim other great pop singers' songs; to her ability to awe other all-time greats; to her ability to just plain make you hear the glory of God, whether or not you believe... Aretha was maybe the greatest voice America has ever produced.

Frayed Knot
Aug 19 2018 03:39 PM
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41Forever wrote:
A few years ago, when we were doing a lot of work in Detroit, I made an iTunes playlist of great Motown songs. As I searched, I realized that none of the compilations had Aretha songs on them. She's so identified with Detroit that I assumed she was part of the Motown team. Turns out she was on Atlantic.

And, prior to that, Columbia (plus a small label or two before that).
Not only did her career start pre-date Motown but Motown was a top-down-run 'hit factory' full of mostly hungry Detroit area kids who were looking for any way to break into the business and were willing (no choice really) to play for whatever Berry Gordy was going to pay them, often not much. Nothing about that Motown formula with its in-house stable of writers, musicians, and producers was going to be a good match what Aretha already was by the time she was a teenager which made her a much better fit for less pop-oriented and more artist-friendly labels like Columbia and then Atlantic where she could work with the likes of Quincy Jones and Jerry Wexler, or at studios such as Muscle Shoals.

Frayed Knot
Aug 23 2018 03:37 PM
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Ed King (68) - part of the three guitar sound of Lynyrd Skynyrd and a co-writer of SWEET HOME ALABAMA

Obviously he wasn't one of those killed in the plane crash, mainly because he was no longer in the band by that point. I wouldn't have even known the name when I read this today except that I just saw, as in the last few days, a SHOWTIME documentary on the band, 'IF I LEAVE HERE TOMORROW' which prominently features commentary from King. Weird when a guy you just learn about for the first time on a Tuesday is dead by Thursday.

During his time with Skynyrd he was very much the band outsider. A Californian by birth, he was a member of the psychedelic era band 'The Strawberry Alarm Clock' (Incense and Peppermints). After hearing the Skynyrds at one point early in their run when they were still just a small club-playing band, he liked what they were doing and told them he'd like to join if they needed someone. A few years later they did, and so he did. But the self-proclaimed "California Hippie" never really fit in with the southern boys' rough lifestyle (lots of drinkin' and fightin') and, after clashing with leader Ronnie Van Zant (who liked to get drunk and physically threaten people), he left following LS's third album.
He was replaced on guitar by Steve Gaines, brought on by sister Cassie who was already one of the backing singers. The Gaines siblings, along with RVZ, were the band members among the six dead.
King later briefly returned as part of the post-crash reassembled band but left due to health issues which included a heart transplant.

G-Fafif
Aug 25 2018 06:29 PM
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Sen. John McCain has died four days short of his 82nd birthday.

Frayed Knot
Aug 25 2018 08:32 PM
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With his 106 year old mother still going.

President Donald Trump is offering his â€œdeepest sympathies and respectâ€ to the family of Arizona Sen. John McCain following the senatorâ€™s death.
Trump says on Twitter, â€œOur hearts and prayers are with you!â€

Yeah fuck you, Mr. President.

Nymr83
Aug 25 2018 08:44 PM
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yeah fuck off donald

RIP John McCain

MFS62
Aug 25 2018 09:26 PM
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RIP, John McCain.

Also passed away, Robin Leach, host of the TV show "Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous". He was 76.
https://www.usnews.com/news/entertainme ... amous-dies

One of the "Hot spots" on his show was a bar about two miles from my house. Robin had a house on nearby Candlewood Lake and he showed (IIRC) a St. Patrick's Day party there.
It went out of business because his show's trendy followers showed up for a while and the "regulars" got crowded out. When the elite went elsewhere, the regulars never returned.
RIP
Later

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 26 2018 10:04 AM
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Neil Simon, 91.

MFS62
Aug 26 2018 10:18 AM
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Benjamin Grimm wrote:
Neil Simon, 91.

The lights on Broadway will be dimmer.

Later

G-Fafif
Aug 26 2018 04:59 PM
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Also in August, former Secretary General of the United Nations Kofi Annan, 80.

Edgy MD
Aug 27 2018 09:57 AM
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Regarding Neil Simon, were the Mets referenced in the stage version of The Odd Couple, or just the film? If so, does Simon get credit for the first reference to the Mets on Broadway?

_________________

And speaking of baseball in literature, Beat Generation mainstay (he hitch-hiked Europe with Ginsburg, and wrote a biography of Kerouac) Tom Clark has passed at 77 after being hit by a car. His contributions to baseball verse were enormous. Check out this beauty.

batmagadanleadoff
Aug 27 2018 12:04 PM
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I'd bet that there were Mets Broadway references way before The Odd Couple.

Edgy MD
Aug 27 2018 12:44 PM
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Well, seeing as the play debuted in 1965, it would be hard to get anything in way before The Odd Couple, although they may have appeared in a comic song or two. Maybe the 19th-Century Mets were referenced, though.

But back to Tom Clark: He's also responsible for these two American League chronicles:

[fimg=217]https://images.gr-assets.com/books/1337996099l/510827.jpg[/fimg] [fimg=217]https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/99sAAOSwZd1VahSz/s-l300.jpg[/fimg]

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 27 2018 12:50 PM
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I'm not familiar with either of those. The one about the Oakland A's looks like it might be interesting.

Frayed Knot
Aug 27 2018 05:41 PM
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A re-re-thought out decision by Agent Orange concerning the death of McCain

Little Donnie:
â€œDespite our differences on policy and politics, I respect Senator John McCainâ€™s service to our country" -- no you don't

"and, in his honor, have signed a proclamation to fly the flag of the United States at half-staff until the day of his interment,â€ -- reversing your earlier decision, one based on purely petty reasons, to do just the opposite

â€œI have asked Vice President Mike Pence to offer an address at the ceremony honoring Senator McCain at the United States Capitol this Friday,â€ -- because the McCain family didn't invite your overly large ass

"At the request of the McCain family, I have also authorized military transportation of Senator McCainâ€™s remains from Arizona to Washington, DC, military pallbearers and band support, and a horse and caisson transport during the service at the United States Naval Academy.â€ -- I'm pretty sure none of that needs your authorization. My uncle, a career naval officer (and, by coincidence, McCain's roommate at USNA) had all of that (minus the transport service from Arizona) at his burial service (Arlington National) and I'm pretty sure my aunt and cousins didn't have to request Presidential permission for it. Not that I'd expect you to have a fucking clue what a career military officer is entitled to.

cooby
Aug 27 2018 07:27 PM
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Well, seeing as the play debuted in 1965, it would be hard to get anything in way before The Odd Couple, although they may have appeared in a comic song or two. Maybe the 19th-Century Mets were referenced, though.

But back to Tom Clark: He's also responsible for these two American League chronicles:

[fimg=217]https://images.gr-assets.com/books/1337996099l/510827.jpg[/fimg] [fimg=217]https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/99sAAOSwZd1VahSz/s-l300.jpg[/fimg]

Mark fydrych. Wow what a high school memory. I had a book about him and a Detroit penpal sending me newspaper clippings

41Forever
Aug 28 2018 01:09 PM
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Aretha Franklin is going to be wearing a different outfit each day of her visitation.

[url]https://www.freep.com/story/entertainment/2018/08/28/aretha-franklin-shoes-wardrobe-visitation/1122245002/

cooby
Aug 28 2018 05:50 PM
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Is it true that Cheeto Man said flags should not be at half staff for John McCain? Because if thatâ€™s the case my postmaster is ignoring that and I will go in and thank him

Frayed Knot
Aug 28 2018 05:59 PM
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Little Donnie only controls the White House flag - and on that issue it's been lowered, then raised, then lowered again.
And while what the WH does often sets the standard for other government institutions, local, state, and even other Federal outlets are in fact free to do whatever the fuck they want.

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 28 2018 05:59 PM
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It was just at the White House. The flag was lowered, then raised, and then lowered again when there was an outcry.

cooby
Aug 28 2018 06:17 PM
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Good! I am glad to know my tiny Post Office, hanging on by the skin of its teeth, has more morals than the President. I'm sure it'll be half mast for a week.

Benjamin Grimm
Sep 01 2018 12:48 PM
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"Mirthful" Marie Severin, 89. Possibly the only female penciler at Marvel Comics during the Silver Age.

https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainme ... cs/569101/

41Forever
Sep 06 2018 01:20 PM
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Burt Reynolds died today at 82.

[url]https://www.woodtv.com/news/national/actor-burt-reynolds-dies-at-82/1423247249

He lived for many years in Jupiter, Fla. and was known for his philanthropy, with a community history museum and college campus named in his honor. My folks live there, and there was a Burt Reynolds Museum. Visited once, and it seemed like it was mostly stuff people had given him - as if someone told him, "Get this stuff out of the house!"

Rich DeVos also died today. The Amway co-founder and Orlando Magic owner also was a tremendous philanthropist.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Sep 06 2018 01:35 PM
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Well, seeing as the play debuted in 1965, it would be hard to get anything in way before The Odd Couple, although they may have appeared in a comic song or two. Maybe the 19th-Century Mets were referenced, though.

But back to Tom Clark: He's also responsible for these two American League chronicles:

[fimg=217]https://images.gr-assets.com/books/1337996099l/510827.jpg[/fimg] [fimg=217]https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/99sAAOSwZd1VahSz/s-l300.jpg[/fimg]

He also wrote THINGS HAPPEN FOR A REASON with Terry Leach

Benjamin Grimm
Sep 06 2018 02:23 PM
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I went and ordered myself a copy of Champagne and Baloney today, even though I consume both items extremely infrequently.

Apparently it's been out of print for a long time, and the cheapest copy I could find was $25 from Alibris. That's more then I'd typically pay for a book, but since I've been thinking about it since Edgy first posted that image on August 27 I decided to go ahead with it.

The price among Amazon.com resellers goes as high as $230!

MFS62
Sep 06 2018 02:29 PM
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41Forever wrote:
Burt Reynolds died today at 82.

[url]https://www.woodtv.com/news/national/actor-burt-reynolds-dies-at-82/1423247249

RIP, Burt.
My wife told me she had the Burt Reynolds Cosmo issue.
I still remember Johnny Carson's line when the issue came out, "They wanted me to pose for Cosmopolitan, but my hand was too small".

Later

Fman99
Sep 06 2018 09:10 PM
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Really great in Boogie Nights.

Frayed Knot
Sep 07 2018 07:58 PM
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A Boy Named Seo wrote:
I just read Dolores Oâ€™Riordan of the Cranberries has died at the very young age of 46.

http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-42696376

The inquiry into the cause of death came back with a verdict of accidental drowning (in a bathtub) caused by heavy drinking.
Her BAC was several times the legal limit.

G-Fafif
Sep 08 2018 07:46 AM
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Bill Daily, an all-star among supporting sitcom supporting players, 91. RIP Roger Healey and Howard Borden.

Benjamin Grimm
Sep 08 2018 08:49 AM
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Edgy MD
Sep 08 2018 03:13 PM
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Bill Dailey is a hero. In both The Bob Newhart Show (airline navigator turned co-pilot) and I Dream of Jeannie (air force pilot turned astronaut), he got his wings, flourishing in the coolest and most competitive fields despite being kinda dumb, nervous, and naÃ¯ve.

America!!

MFS62
Sep 08 2018 03:32 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:
Bill Dailey is a hero. In both The Bob Newhart Show (airline navigator turned co-pilot) and I Dream of Jeannie (air force pilot turned astronaut), he got his wings, flourishing in the coolest and most competitive fields despite being kinda dumb, nervous, and naÃ¯ve.

America!!

Right. You might think someone unqualified like that could become President today. But that might be too far fetched for television.
Sigh.
Later

Frayed Knot
Sep 29 2018 04:40 PM
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Martyn Jerel Buchwald - aka: Marty Balin, singer Jefferson Airplane, 76

On his departure from the group [in a 1993 interview]: ... Janis's death struck me. It was dark times. Everybody was doing so much drugs and I couldnâ€™t even talk to the band. I was into yoga at the time. Iâ€™d given up drinking and I was into totally different area, health foods and getting back to the streets, working with the American Indians. It was getting strange for me. Cocaine was a big deal in those days and I wasnâ€™t a cokie and I couldnâ€™t talk with everybody who had an answer for every goddamn thing, rationalizing everything that happened. I thought it made the music really tight and constrictive and ruined it. So after Janis died, I thought, Iâ€™m not gonna go onstage and play that kind of music; I donâ€™t like cocaine.

Excerpts of this one were used effectively in the Steve Prefontaine bio-pic WITHOUT LIMITS
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Edgy MD
Oct 01 2018 10:16 AM
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Heck of a singer.

Him getting pulled offstage and pummelled unconscious by Hell's Angels in the Gimme Shelter show remains one of the most important water marks in the rock timeline.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Oct 01 2018 11:19 AM
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I think of Marty as the voice of the RED OCTOPUS era. Man, that album cover gave me nightmares.

He sorta tripped up his solo career behind a big soft debut ballad and posing all soft-rocky in a suit on the cover.

batmagadanleadoff
Oct 01 2018 11:30 AM
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Frayed Knot wrote:

[youtube]0NdvMT32skw[/youtube]

One of rock's all time greatest albums, it can be heard throughout the Coen Brothers' A Serious Man. Embryonic Journey is a staple of background music, a recurring theme throughout The Wonder Years tv show. And that arabic version of White Rabbit in American Hustle. Oh my.

[youtube]mAJ4-Ey7jBM[/youtube]

Fman99
Oct 01 2018 01:07 PM
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Christ, that is a great cover. It's like the most psychedelic call to prayer any mosque ever played.

Frayed Knot
Oct 02 2018 02:53 PM
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Peggy Sue - 78

Benjamin Grimm
Oct 02 2018 03:00 PM
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Well, if you knew Peggy Sue then you'd know why I feel blue.

sharpie
Oct 03 2018 01:05 PM
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The song was originally "Cindy Lou" (so says the article).

The "pretty pretty pretty pretty Peggy Sue" line wouldn't work nearly as well with Cindy Lou in its place. Sometimes things work out.

Benjamin Grimm
Oct 03 2018 01:16 PM
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If I heard the original version, my first thought would have been, "Cindy Lou who?"

Frayed Knot
Oct 03 2018 01:33 PM
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Benjamin Grimm wrote:
If I heard the original version, my first thought would have been, "Cindy Lou who?"

She'd now be way more than two.

sharpie
Oct 03 2018 02:31 PM
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To complete the rock and roll trio of deaths this week (with Marty Balin and Peggy Sue) - Geoff Emerick at 72 who engineered the Beatles records starting from Revolver. Got John to sound like the Dalai Lama preaching from a mountaintop on "Tomorrow Never Knows."

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/mu ... story.html

Edgy MD
Oct 03 2018 07:23 PM
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Also produced Imperial Bedroom for Elvis Costello & the Attractions, their first album not produced by Nick Lowe (well, second, after the Nashville departure Almost Blue), and some of the most consistently outstanding and most enduring music that combo ever set to disc.

MFS62
Oct 04 2018 01:04 PM
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Dave Anderson, sportswriter:

https://twitter.com/nytsports/status/10 ... 93699?s=12

His book, Countdown To Super Bowl, the story of SB III, was the best book written about that game then or since.

RIP

Later

Frayed Knot
Oct 15 2018 04:41 PM
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Paul Allen, co-founder of Microsoft, 65

RealityChuck
Oct 19 2018 11:27 AM
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Just discovered Tony Award winning actress Carole Shelley died back in September. Though she appeared in multiple roles on Broadway, she's best known for her movie role of Gwendolyn Pigeon in The Odd Couple.

Edgy MD
Oct 19 2018 11:32 AM
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The two Pigeon Sister actresses endured, staying with the original run of the show through three Oscars and three Felices, going on to play the role in the movie, and lasting through the beginning of the series before being written out.

Frayed Knot
Oct 21 2018 10:15 AM
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Charles Wang - 74
Shanghai born Long Islander, led software companies and invested in LI real estate which eventually led to buying the Islanders

G-Fafif
Oct 25 2018 01:59 PM
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James Karen, 94, distinguished actor likely better known in the Metropolitan Area as the Pathmark Guy. Outlived Pathmark.

Benjamin Grimm
Oct 25 2018 02:06 PM
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He was also the shady real estate developer in Poltergeist.

MFS62
Oct 26 2018 06:39 AM
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G-Fafif wrote:
James Karen, 94, distinguished actor likely better known in the Metropolitan Area as the Pathmark Guy. Outlived Pathmark.

He was fired as Pathmark spokesperson because of one of his acting roles.
He played the town banker who foreclosed on the Ingalls' farm in an episode of Little House on the Prairie.
The public reaction (letters and phone calls) to Pathmark about hiring this "mean person" was so great that the company voided his contract and stopped showing the commercials he had already completed.

Later

Edgy MD
Oct 26 2018 08:44 AM
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Yeah, the stubborn perspective of Little House fans is legendary.

Lefty Specialist
Oct 30 2018 12:31 PM
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Whitey Bulger, 89, kingpin of Boston organized crime and a fugitive for 16 years before being caught.

Frayed Knot
Oct 30 2018 01:12 PM
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Lefty Specialist wrote:
Whitey Bulger, 89, kingpin of Boston organized crime and a fugitive for 16 years before being caught.

btw, he didn't die in prison, he apparently was killed in prison.
Details still sketchy but some inmate "with mafia ties" is "under investigation".

batmagadanleadoff
Oct 30 2018 01:42 PM
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Shocking. Who'd wanna kill that guy?

Chad Ochoseis
Oct 30 2018 03:20 PM
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Yeah. Though you'd figure that by the time someone reaches 89, his enemies would just let Mother Nature finish the job.

G-Fafif
Nov 01 2018 06:52 PM
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The great professional football writer Paul Zimmerman, aka Dr. Z, 86. Michael Silver remembers him here.

Benjamin Grimm
Nov 12 2018 12:09 PM
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This one makes me sad.

Stan (the Man) Lee, 95.

Nymr83
Nov 12 2018 12:10 PM
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that sucks.

I always laughed at his silly cameo appearances in pretty much every Marvel movie/TV Show

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Nov 12 2018 12:59 PM
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He teamed up with my dad to do sopme stuff inckuding the deadpan satire "Virtue of Vera Valiant" comic strip that Stan at last look was trying to have made into a movie or TV show. He was over our house a few times I think.

Edgy MD
Nov 12 2018 01:06 PM
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I got the idea that, considering his advanced age, the studio would have him film his cameos in advance for their next 10 or so movies.

Benjamin Grimm
Nov 12 2018 01:13 PM
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I think they did indeed do that.

Frayed Knot
Nov 12 2018 02:37 PM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
... the deadpan satire "Virtue of Vera Valiant" comic strip that Stan at last look was trying to have made into a movie or TV show.

A bit ironic in that Stan didn't care for it all that much while it was an ongoing concern.
Doesn't look like it'll be a big budget flick if and when it does get done.

Vic Sage
Nov 12 2018 02:53 PM
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[silence]

Edgy MD
Nov 12 2018 07:05 PM
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Pretty cool of Green Goblin to show for Spidey and MJ's wedding.

Mets Willets Point
Nov 12 2018 09:34 PM
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The master of crossovers.

[youtube:3sb952oa]UQwslg6lat8[/youtube:3sb952oa]

MFS62
Nov 13 2018 05:37 AM
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Mike Francesa's reaction to Stan Lee's death:
https://ftw.usatoday.com/2018/11/mike-f ... lees-death
What a prick.

Later

d'Kong76
Nov 13 2018 02:03 PM
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[crossout:1bp8itof]Francesca not knowing who Stan Lee was when told of his passing
declares, "Oh who cares" when told who he was. Nice guy.[/crossout:1bp8itof]

Avi sez rmpl...

Zvon
Nov 13 2018 03:40 PM
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Edgy MD wrote:

Pretty cool of Green Goblin to show for Spidey and MJ's wedding.

@Shea!
yay!

G-Fafif
Nov 16 2018 08:01 PM
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Roy Clark, who could do some things with a guitar, 85.

G-Fafif
Nov 16 2018 08:07 PM
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William Goldman, who could do some things with a screenplay, 87.

Co-authored the entertaining and insightful Wait Till Next Year with Mike Lupica, chronicling the downfall of New York's professional sports teams during 1987, with a particular heartfelt emphasis on the one in Queens. Lupica played the savvy reporter, Goldman the passionate fan, both to the hilt. The fan predicted that on his deathbed he'd still resent the SOB who dared to gloat over the phone that the Mets were beating the Cardinals on September 11 of that season before the score went final. Next thing he knew, Terry Pendleton homered off Roger McDowell and, well, you know.

"Terry Pendleton was my Titanic. After that liner sank, no one ever felt quite as confident again, not in deep water. And I was in deep water now..."

Edgy MD
Nov 16 2018 08:49 PM
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I loved his resolve as a writer.

"I was so programmed to fail," he says at one point. "I had shown no signs of talent as a young man. I was an editor at the school literary magazine at Oberlin College, and I would anonymously submit my short stories. When the other editors - two brilliant girls - would read them, they would say, 'We can't possibly publish this shit.' And I would agree.

"After that I took a creative-writing course, where I got horrible grades. Do you know what it's like to want to be a writer and get the worst grades in the class? It's terrible."

I also love how in the frame story of the novel of The Princess Bride, which is totally different from the Peter Falk/Fred Savage frame story in the film, Goldman portrayed himself as such an empty Hollywood shnook.

Mets Willets Point
Nov 17 2018 03:09 PM
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Goldman claimed he wrote an original scene for The Princess Bride - the rest of the book, of course, iis written by S. Morgenstern - and he was prohibited from publishing it, but readers could write the publisher for a copy. My college girlfriend did just that, and instead of getting the reunion scene got a hilarious series of updates from Goldman about his legal troubles with the Morgernstern estate.

d'Kong76
Nov 17 2018 03:23 PM
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I liked Roy Clark as a yute. Also feels like he's passed away here several
times. RIP either way and hee haw!

Frayed Knot
Nov 17 2018 04:06 PM
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I think Roy was one of the earlier cases of an internet death far preceding his actual one.
Don't remember when specifically he was first supposedly dead but it was some time prior to yesterday, when he was young(er).

Rockin' Doc
Nov 17 2018 06:31 PM
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d'Kong76 wrote:
I liked Roy Clark as a yute. Also feels like he's passed away here several
times. RIP either way and hee haw!

Roy was a pickin', while Buck was a grinnin'.

G-Fafif
Nov 19 2018 07:57 PM
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Peter Simon, 71, a photographer whose work you've seen if you own a copy of Jack Lang's 25th-anniversary Mets book. Like his sister Carly, a longtime fan of the club (and a pal of 2007 All-Star break visitor Gary Cohen's, per this article a person wasn't expecting to run across).

Peter did plenty of non-Mets photography as well.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Nov 27 2018 11:28 AM
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SpongeBob creator Stephen Hillenberg at 57 of ALS.

The man was a genius

Mets Willets Point
Nov 27 2018 01:22 PM
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G-Fafif
Nov 30 2018 10:15 PM
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George Herbert Walker Bush, 41st President of the United States, 94.

Benjamin Grimm
Dec 01 2018 04:22 AM
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If I was a living former president, I would give strict instructions that if I were to die during the Trump presidency, that I would not want that clown to deliver my eulogy.

Lefty Specialist
Dec 01 2018 07:13 AM
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Trump should attend; it's about the office as much as it's about the man. But he should sit quietly and say nothing.

Bush 41 is a mixed legacy. Probably the most experienced person to become president. A genuine war hero. Raised taxes when he needed to and it may have cost him a second term. Fought the cleanest war in US history. Had the good sense to stop when he did, but his son pursued it the rest of the way and we're still dealing with the unintended consequences.

Gave us the Americans With Disabilities Act but also gave us Willie Horton. I was in Kuwait on business in 1992 and if they could have elected Bush as King at that point they would have. The last of the old-style Republican presidents, who actually thought government could do some good occasionally.

seawolf17
Dec 01 2018 07:54 AM
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However, Trump had a decidedly different view of Bushâ€™s â€œthousand points of lightâ€ concept during a campaign rally in Montana back in July.

He whipped the crowd by mocking the philosophy:

â€œThe thousand points of light, what the hell was that by the way? Thousand points of light, what did that mean, does anyone know? I know one thing, Make America Great Again we understand. Putting America first, we understand. Thousand points of light, I never quite got that one. What the hell is that? Has anyone ever figured that one out? And it was put out by a Republican, wasnâ€™t it?â€

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/do ... b211685473

Eff 45 on this.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Dec 01 2018 08:42 AM
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Only president to fistfight Homer Simpson.

Crappy economy and the fury underlying the Rodney King situation cost him. Also made a bad decision on Quayle.

Better than his son, though.

Edgy MD
Dec 01 2018 09:12 AM
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Back in the mid-nineties, I got a clerical temp job at the Thousand Points of Light Foundation. My assignment was to transfer some bigwig's paper rolodex into a digital one.

Man, that rolodex had personal contact information of everyone, left and right, public and private: Bushes, Kennedys, Jesse Jackson, Nancy Reagan, Arnold Schwarzeneggar, Marion Barry.

I wrote down some of the juiciest ones and pocketed them on the way out the door, but felt guilty and threw out the list when I got home. I could have started my own non-profit with that mailing list.

d'Kong76
Dec 01 2018 09:20 AM
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John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:
Only president to fistfight Homer Simpson.

Who won?

Edgy MD
Dec 01 2018 09:38 AM
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[youtube:2lktfq5u]wy5iHU6drak[/youtube:2lktfq5u] [youtube:2lktfq5u]eRXN6ACvCoE[/youtube:2lktfq5u]

41Forever
Dec 01 2018 01:02 PM
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I think today's editorial in the Detroit News is spot on.

Here's part, but I suggest it's worth the full read:

[url]https://www.detroitnews.com/story/opinion/editorials/2018/12/01/editorial-america-loses-its-point-light/2173866002/

Beyond the box score of accomplishments, Bush today is appreciated â€“ and missed â€“ because his confident, dignified, quiet style of leadership stands in such contrast to the coarseness and chaos of our times.

Bush was not a man of bluster or bravado. Nor was he a president who found it necessary to constantly remind the nation of his great deeds. He was of a class that valued humility and honor.He exemplified the spirit of noblesse oblige, the now quaint notion that to whom much is given, much is expected.

He was a consensus builder who, as a Republican, worked in Congress to forge friendships and alliances with Democrats, many of whom became lifelong friends, and were valuable allies in Bushâ€™s later roles. He also was imbued with deep compassion, wistfully envisioning America as a â€œkinder, gentler nation,â€ and presenting the country as such on the foreign stage.

He did not pick public fights. He did not humiliate his opponents. He did not whine. He bore the slings and arrows that come with the office with Kiplingesque reserve and resolve.

I had the pleasure of seeing him a couple times -- the first was the first time I was able to shake hands with a sitting president!

Frayed Knot
Dec 01 2018 01:45 PM
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Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Dec 01 2018 05:08 PM

MLB connection: When the dying Babe Ruth donated the manuscript for the book and movie made from it, 'THE BABE RUTH STORY'*, to Yale University in the spring of 1948, it was handed over at
a ceremony on the mound at Yale's baseball field. Accepting it was the captain of the Yale baseball team, George Bush.

[fimg=400]http://www.mlb.com/assets/images/2/8/6/301340286/cuts/1600x900/cut.jpg[/fimg]

* why Yale wanted the manuscript from what was supposedly (I never saw it) one of the worst movies ever made is a mystery, but I suppose anything connected with the Babe was considered gold and that he was dying made it even more so.

Frayed Knot
Dec 01 2018 02:07 PM
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I think Bush's main problem was that he prepared his whole life to lead the United States in during the cold war and as soon as he got in office it essentially disappeared out from under him leaving him
with no particular cause or direction on which to hang his hat. By upbringing and by temperament he had been associated with the more liberal, WASPish -- his father was from Connecticut and named
Prescott for God's sake -- northeastern, so-called 'Rockefeller' republicans for most of his career. But he had to shift gears to get behind Reagan and the then still emerging southern wing of the party
and wound up caught in between the two once the cold war issue was no longer on the front burner.
Plus it's always tough to be somebody else's third term (partly why it rarely happens, right Hill?) so between the bad economy, the distrust from the new right, the shrinking of his old base (eastern Repubs
essentially no longer existed), a desire for a change after 12 years, and a generational shift in voters leaving baby boomers as the biggest bloc, his seemingly solid lead in the middle of his term quickly
melted away. Perot also didn't help him any. But while the '92 election may have been a shade closer with that wing-nut in the race, he wasn't going to have enough anyway.

G-Fafif
Dec 01 2018 03:12 PM
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Showed exquisite taste in outerwear and where to wear it.

Nymr83
Dec 01 2018 05:28 PM
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RIP

sadly, my first thought when I saw this was "I hope someone signs Orange out of twitter tonight before he makes a mockery of the office over this"

Edgy MD
Dec 01 2018 07:57 PM
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Showed exquisite taste in outerwear and where to wear it.

Dwight: "Man, they talk and talk about this guy, but nobody mentions that hard, sweet ass he's got going."

MFS62
Dec 02 2018 06:15 AM
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When people have been interviewed about how they remember him, it seems the most frequent comment was "He was a decent man". And this is in the traditional way of using that word. He had a moral compass to the very end. Even his invasion of Iraq was to free an country from the invasion of a tyrannical regime, not for his self interest.
I did not agree with him on many issues, but the term Compassionate Conservative could not be more apt.
RIP
Later

Benjamin Grimm
Dec 02 2018 08:26 AM
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Ken Berry, 85.

MFS62
Dec 02 2018 08:42 AM
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Benjamin Grimm wrote:
Ken Berry, 85.

He started out as what used to be called a "song and dance man", like Dick Van Dyke.
RIP.
Later

Edgy MD
Dec 03 2018 10:35 AM
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Frayed Knot wrote:
I think Bush's main problem was that he prepared his whole life to lead the United States in during the cold war and as soon as he got in office it essentially disappeared out from under him leaving him
with no particular cause or direction on which to hang his hat. By upbringing and by temperament he had been associated with the more liberal, WASPish -- his father was from Connecticut and named
Prescott for God's sake -- northeastern, so-called 'Rockefeller' republicans for most of his career. But he had to shift gears to get behind Reagan and the then still emerging southern wing of the party
and wound up caught in between the two once the cold war issue was no longer on the front burner.
Plus it's always tough to be somebody else's third term (partly why it rarely happens, right Hill?) so between the bad economy, the distrust from the new right, the shrinking of his old base (eastern Repubs
essentially no longer existed), a desire for a change after 12 years, and a generational shift in voters leaving baby boomers as the biggest bloc, his seemingly solid lead in the middle of his term quickly
melted away. Perot also didn't help him any. But while the '92 election may have been a shade closer with that wing-nut in the race, he wasn't going to have enough anyway.

This sort of adds up to Dana Carvey's claim that he was never really doing Bush, but doing a combination of John Wayne and Mr. Rogers.

Check out the BFFs:

[fimg=237]https://www.mydaytondailynews.com/rf/image_lowres/Pub/p4/MyDaytonDailyNews/2013/07/16/Images/photos.medleyphoto.3645081.jpg[/fimg] [fimg=450]https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/flushing-ny-vice-president-george-bush-talks-with-mets-catcher-gary-picture-id1035692114[/fimg] [fimg=249]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CRFeaAeWgAEXSBd.jpg[/fimg]

41Forever
Dec 03 2018 11:09 AM
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Cool pics of 41 and 8!

While in Florida last month, I went to the cemetery to help my parents clean the headstone of my grandparents and nephew. Gray Carter rests in the same cemetery, close by, and we paid our respects. He has a large, but tasteful stone with a verse from Joshua -- 24:15, "As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord." There's his full name, with "Husband, father, Pops." There's a smaller stone shaped like home place.

MFS62
Dec 04 2018 06:57 AM
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Did the stone face a place where you could stand to take a picture?
Later

41Forever
Dec 04 2018 08:01 AM
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MFS62 wrote:
Did the stone face a place where you could stand to take a picture?
Later

Yes. I didn't take this photo, but I found it online.

Perry Como rests a few steps away. Another Hall-of-Famer, Billy Herman is there. And, I learned while looking for the Gary Carter photo, that Pistons Coach Chuck Daily and entertainer Mike Douglas also are there. Kind of surprising, since it's not a very big cemetery.

Edgy MD
Dec 04 2018 11:28 AM
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I didn't know Chuck Daily was dead.

Great coach, but the model he set sucked a lot of the fun out of the NBA.

Edgy MD
Dec 16 2018 04:29 PM
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Spare a thought for Sondra Locke, Oscar-nominated actress (The Heart Is a Lonely Hunter) who starred opposite then-boyfriend Clint Eastwood in The Outlaw Josey Wales, The Gauntlet, Every Which Way But Loose, Any Which Way You Can, Bronco Billy and Sudden Impact.

Before the two parted (very badly), she would follow her paramour into directing, helming Ratboy, which was exactly as bizarre as it sounds. If you get a chance to jump from acting to directing, well, it might as well be Ratboy.

G-Fafif
Dec 18 2018 11:55 AM
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Lee Leonard, 89, the first face of ESPN programming in September 1979, following high-profile stints on Channel 5 in New York (Midday Live, Sports Extra) and NBC (Grandstand). Later moved to CNN.

G-Fafif
Dec 18 2018 11:58 AM
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Penny Marshall, 75. Myrna Turner and Laverne DeFazio send their regrets.

batmagadanleadoff
Dec 18 2018 12:19 PM
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Penny was married to Rob Reiner in the 70s and almost got to play his TV wife: she came close to landing the part or Gloria Bunker/Stivic on All in the Family.

G-Fafif
Dec 18 2018 12:38 PM
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Ms. Marshall directed two iconic movies as well, one of which lives on in the ongoing Tabloid Cover Derby via a tweak of its signature line, "There's no crying in baseball." While not baseball-intensive like A League Of Their Own, she did steer one scene from Big into MFYS II. (Bronx girl, whaddaya can do?)

Penny was also Mary Richards's neighbor Paula for a spell when Mary moved to a new apartment, before Laverne & Shirley transformed her from supporting player to superstar. Agreed to date Lou in one episode so Lou could make an old flame jealous. (The old flame was dating Jeff Conaway, aka future Bobby from Taxi.)

Myrna was one of the greatest shall we say utility characters in sitcom history. Would come off the bench and deliver line drive after line drive. "Look at the time." "Have you tried tennis?" "How do you dooo?"

Benjamin Grimm
Dec 18 2018 12:50 PM
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"...Have you ever been to a leper colony?"

Frayed Knot
Dec 18 2018 01:05 PM
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That "have you tried tennis" line was just great; the set-up, the line itself, her timing, her delivery, all of it.

She is of course survived not just by her ex-husband but also by her ex-father-in-law, the now 96 y/o Carl Reiner.
That he was just 21 years older than his one-time daughter in law was in part due to the Reiner penchant for marrying older women.
Rob Reiner is four years younger than Penny and papa Carl was eight years younger than his (now late) wife.
A minority of men out-live their wives but I guess that: a) marrying someone older then b) living to be 96, significantly increases the odds.

Edgy MD
Dec 18 2018 01:47 PM
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When my mother-in-law made the finals of the Original Amateur Hour Featuring Ted Mack in 1956, she appeared at Madison Square Garden. Among her competition with bigger things in their future were Johnny Burnette and the Rock & Roll Trio, and a 13-year-old Penny Marshall, appearing as part of dance company.

G-Fafif
Dec 18 2018 02:11 PM
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From a few days ago, songstress Nancy Wilson (not to be confused with the Nancy Wilson from Heart), 81.

MFS62
Dec 18 2018 07:37 PM
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G-Fafif wrote:
Penny Marshall, 75. Myrna Turner and Laverne DeFazio send their regrets.

They could take the girl out of the Bronx, but they never could take the Bronx out of the girl.
RIP

Later

dgwphotography
Dec 23 2018 08:05 AM
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Yesterday, My mom, Brooklyn girl, Probate Court clerk, 88 after a short illness.

41Forever
Dec 23 2018 08:09 AM
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dgwphotography wrote:
Yesterday, My mom, Brooklyn girl, Probate Court clerk, 88 after a short illness.

Very, very sorry to hear this, my friend. Keeping you and your family in our prayers.

MFS62
Dec 23 2018 09:30 AM
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dgwphotography wrote:
Yesterday, My mom, Brooklyn girl, Probate Court clerk, 88 after a short illness.

So sorry to hear that.
We're with you in our thoughts.

Later

cooby
Dec 23 2018 02:31 PM
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dgwphotography wrote:
Yesterday, My mom, Brooklyn girl, Probate Court clerk, 88 after a short illness.

Very sorry. I am sure she had some great stories to tell!

Kong76, Jr.
Dec 23 2018 02:59 PM
Re: Guess Who died in 2018

Condolences to you and your family, DGW.

Benjamin Grimm
Dec 23 2018 03:15 PM
Re: Guess Who died in 2018

My condolences too.

John Cougar Lunchbucket
Dec 23 2018 03:57 PM
Re: Guess Who died in 2018

ours too Dave

Edgy MD
Dec 23 2018 05:08 PM
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I'm sorry to hear, Dave.

When a Brooklyn girl dies, we should all iron our socks and raise an egg cream.

Fman99
Dec 23 2018 06:28 PM
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dgwphotography wrote:
Yesterday, My mom, Brooklyn girl, Probate Court clerk, 88 after a short illness.

Sorry, man. Eighty eight years is pretty great, I should be so lucky to live that long.

Chad Ochoseis
Dec 23 2018 07:37 PM
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My sympathies, Dave.

The Hot Corner
Dec 23 2018 08:08 PM
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DGW, so very sorry to hear of your mother's passing. I will have your family in my thoughts and prayers.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
Dec 23 2018 09:35 PM
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Brooklyn girls are often the best women.

G-Fafif
Dec 24 2018 03:26 PM
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From one son of a Brooklyn girl to another, my deepest condolences.