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In Goes Frazier!

seawolf17 Feb 06 2018 01:49 AM

[tweet:3elbrv0w]https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/960690951982379009[/tweet:3elbrv0w]

Edgy MD Feb 06 2018 01:50 AM Re: In Goes Frazier!

Whoah!

seawolf17 Feb 06 2018 01:50 AM Re: In Goes Frazier!

That seems like a *very* reasonable deal.

Nymr83 Feb 06 2018 01:54 AM Re: In Goes Frazier!

WHAM! I like the deal a lot. he'll be 32 this year which would worry me for a speed guy who plays middle infield, not a power/walks guy who plays a corner spot. 2 years at a pretty cheap rate per year. reasonable defender at 3B this is better than the Bruce deal even!

Edgy MD Feb 06 2018 01:59 AM Re: In Goes Frazier!

Go get Joey Votto and let's complete the rebuild of the Dusty Baker-era Reds.

seawolf17 Feb 06 2018 02:01 AM Re: In Goes Frazier!

Edgy MD wrote: Go get Joey Votto and let's complete the rebuild of the Dusty Baker-era Reds.

MFS62 Feb 06 2018 02:22 AM Re: In Goes Frazier!

Edgy MD wrote: Go get Joey Votto and let's complete the rebuild of the Dusty Baker-era Reds. I'd rather Big Red Machine-type Reds so we wouldn't have to look at Dusty Baker spit sunflower seeds in those closeups, but I'll take some of that era's Reds mojo. Later

41Forever Feb 06 2018 02:35 AM Re: In Goes Frazier!

Yeah! So does this mean Cabrera plays second and Wilmer and Reyes are subs?

Nymr83 Feb 06 2018 02:37 AM Re: In Goes Frazier!

41Forever wrote: Yeah! So does this mean Cabrera plays second and Wilmer and Reyes are subs? I would think Wilmer is 1B against lefties. Reyes to the bench.

Frayed Knot Feb 06 2018 02:41 AM Re: In Goes Frazier!

So let's see here: - mgmt is admitting that they're not counting on Wright -- Good - not signed to a long term deal -- Good - another low-BA/high-K/high-power addition to the lineup -- mixed at best - solves the 3B vacancy & the 2B one as well which is where Asdrubal recently said he'd prefer to play -- Good - Wilmer platoons with Smith -- Good, at least we hope so - aging but not yet old -- if not Good then at least not yet Bad - local kid but also MFY connections both recent and from childhood -- more bad than good but largely irrelevant So definitely a positive grade overall

Nymr83 Feb 06 2018 02:52 AM Re: In Goes Frazier!

Mets need to hand-deliver a jersey and get some photos of him on a baseball field ASAP so we can stop seeing hideous yankee pinstripes in the news articles.

Edgy MD Feb 06 2018 02:56 AM Re: In Goes Frazier!

On the other hand, if they can drag their feet on finalizing the deal and getting him medically cleared for another nine days, they can avoid having to DFA a guy.

Zvon Feb 06 2018 03:00 AM Re: In Goes Frazier!

I'm gonna have to like this deal/move. Yep, I'm having a problem breaking off with David, but it's much better to be prepared. And, to me, this indicates that Wright's tenure is more than likely coming to an end. But I guess we all knew that. And so it goes.

Nymr83 Feb 06 2018 03:12 AM Re: In Goes Frazier!

Relying on David Wright, who has played 75 games over the last three years, none last year, and hasn't had a really healthy season since 2012 would be really bad planning. Forget him. He isn't here. If he shows up later, you figure it out then. Frazier can play 1B. Maybe Wright can too. Flores can move to 2B with Cabrera to SS if Rosario isn't hitting, Smith can be sent down. the Mets infield isn't full of veterans without options or position flexibility. the Mets have many different viable combinations around the diamond depending on who is performing.

Fman99 Feb 06 2018 03:14 AM Re: In Goes Frazier!

Reasonable rate to get him for 2 years/17 mil. Got a lot of guys in this lineup who could potentially hit .235, though, and that makes me nervous.

Edgy MD Feb 06 2018 03:28 AM Re: In Goes Frazier!

It was fated to be.

Nymr83 Feb 06 2018 03:40 AM Re: In Goes Frazier!

Wow!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Feb 06 2018 07:06 AM Re: In Goes Frazier!

Well. Well, well. Even with a diminished bat, he was worth 5.5-6 WAR over the last two years, and can fill holes at third or first. Even if you’re a believer in Wilmer... he doesn’t make Flores redundant; he doubles Flores. AND with the savings, perhaps you go Cobb-ling?

Mex17 Feb 06 2018 11:38 AM Re: In Goes Frazier!

Frayed Knot wrote: - Wilmer platoons with Gonzalez -- Good, at least we hope so Fixed.

Mex17 Feb 06 2018 11:49 AM Re: In Goes Frazier!

In the Post article that I read, Callaway claims that Frazier was becoming more selective later in the season and stopped chasing as much (Callaway would know this since, as pitching coach for Cleveland, he was advance scouting the Yankees lineup in anticipation of the postseason). Frazier's September splits corroborate this to a pretty significant degree by revealing a .229/.389/.529/.918 slash line for that month. So let's keep our fingers crossed.

bmfc1 Feb 06 2018 12:19 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

Fangraphs makes the same point, late in the column: After having never once produced a double-digit walk rate in his career, Frazier posted a 14.4% mark last season while also cutting his strikeout rate by three percentage points (21.7%). It was the sixth-best walk rate in the game amongst qualified hitters. Frazier cut his out-of-zone swing rate by a whopping eight percentage points to a career-low 24.5% in 2017, and his swing rate fell to a career-low 58.6%, down from 72.6% in 2015. His swinging-strike rate fell to 9.3%, another career low. https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/mets-ad ... ain-price/

duan Feb 06 2018 01:03 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

There's not a lot to dislike here! Strange how that's the first immediate instinct isn't it - to check what's wrong. He's by no means one of the best players in baseball, but as a piece to improve the offense he's a decent one without any long term fears.

Lefty Specialist Feb 06 2018 01:17 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

It's a definite improvement. He just better not hit .213 again. This is basically sayonara to Wright, not that I ever expected him to come back. Lots of jangly pieces on this roster- Cabrera, Reyes, Flores, Gonzales. Hope Callaway finds a way to make everything fit.

Valadius Feb 06 2018 02:18 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

Good stuff. Start prepping for David Wright Day at Citi this summer.

Edgy MD Feb 06 2018 02:20 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

If he's already brought duan back, the deal pays for itself.

Ceetar Feb 06 2018 02:26 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

They'll find room for David to get 50 games in if he can. Don't get too attached to Jose Reyes or Wilmer Flores.

seawolf17 Feb 06 2018 02:31 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

Flores becomes an interesting trade chip, actually. I could see him somewhere hitting 30 home runs in 2019 and us being like OMG WHAT DID WE DO.

Benjamin Grimm Feb 06 2018 02:35 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

I don't know much about Todd Frazier, but lately I've been hearing a lotta good things. (He's much like Frederick Douglass in that regard.) I know we're not supposed to care about batting average anymore, but jeez, .213? The 27 homers and 83 walks helps make that look not so bad. But yeah, the wrighting has to be on the wall for David. It's a shame about him, but this move does appear to make the team better, and that's what we all want. This also means that we can stop talking about Neil Walker and Josh Harrison and Eduardo Nunez.

Centerfield Feb 06 2018 02:40 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

Spent the night trying to convince myself of this move, but the more I think about it, I'm not crazy about it. I mean, it's not a bad move. $8.5/per, 2 year commitment for Frazier is a great deal, and signing him certainly beats not doing anything, but more and more I just don't like the philosophy behind this roster construction. I mean, Todd Frazier is kinda like Jay Bruce. A good, but not great player. Makes some money but doesn't kill you. And despite landing both of them at reasonable deals, no one realistically believes we can compete with the Nationals. The Mets spent $6 million (net of the buyout) on Cabrera. $13 million on Bruce, $8.5 million on Frazier, $2.5 million on Reyes. That's $30 million. And there's some pretty good bang for your buck type deals in there. But another way to spend that money is $25 million on JD Martinez, then fill in the infield with Flores/Rivera/Cecchini/Phil Evans. Maybe call up Guillorme for IF Defense. Similarly, the Mets have Ramos making $10 million and Swarzak signed at $7 million. Is that necessarily better than Wade Davis at $17.5 million? And I get that the years committed is a huge factor and it's not apples to apples. But if you're going to go for it, then fuck, bring in some star players and go for it. The obvious answer here is increase payroll, and sign JD Martinez AND Todd Frazier. Sign Swarzak AND Wade Davis. But that's a story for another thread.

Ceetar Feb 06 2018 02:49 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

They've praised Frazier's adjustments last year. Plus his BABIP has been crazy low the last two. If he's truly learned how to walk and can build on that with the new team, he'll be good. Plus he plays defense. In that regard, he's much better than Bruce, who is _just_ a slugger. So does Rosario. Smith has been at least reasonably well regarded there and if Gonzalez is good enough to actually play he's a fine 1B as well. But just Rosario and Frazier over last year probably saves a half dozen earned runs per starter.

seawolf17 Feb 06 2018 02:49 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

Centerfield wrote: And I get that the years committed is a huge factor and it's not apples to apples. But if you're going to go for it, then fuck, bring in some star players and go for it. I see your point, but I think that's just the way this team operates, for better or worse. I don't think any of these deals -- Swarzak, Bruce, Frazier, Gonzalez, et al -- are "bad." They're good, solid moves that have some upside and little downside: Players Good + Team Good = Yay! Players Good + Team Bad = Tradeable! Players Bad + Team Good = Yay! Players Bad + Team Bad = Less tradeable, but no commitment and we can retool! Wade Davis at $17M is bananas for 58 innings, which is what he pitched last year.

MFS62 Feb 06 2018 02:52 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

What the F does "Thumb on Down" mean on the Post page above? Are they negative about the deal? (I'll give it a 30% probability) Are they sad the MFYs didn't get him? (my 30% probability) Are they doing something to get us to buy that rag to find out? (40%) Screw you, Rupert Murdock, I'm not spending money to help you support Donald Trump. Later

Benjamin Grimm Feb 06 2018 02:57 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

"Thumb on Down" rhymes with "Come on Down" and is also a reference to the "Thumbs Down" guy on the Daily News cover.

Centerfield Feb 06 2018 02:59 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

seawolf17 wrote: And I get that the years committed is a huge factor and it's not apples to apples. But if you're going to go for it, then fuck, bring in some star players and go for it. I see your point, but I think that's just the way this team operates, for better or worse. I don't think any of these deals -- Swarzak, Bruce, Frazier, Gonzalez, et al -- are "bad." They're good, solid moves that have some upside and little downside: Players Good + Team Good = Yay! Players Good + Team Bad = Tradeable! Players Bad + Team Good = Yay! Players Bad + Team Bad = Less tradeable, but no commitment and we can retool! Wade Davis at $17M is bananas for 58 innings, which is what he pitched last year. Agreed that none of these are bad. Like you said, all offer some upside, little downside. I just think to really be a great team, you have to take a chance on a guy who can give you a ton of upside. Even at risking a long term deal. The Nats really put themselves out there with long term deals to Scherzer and Strassburg, but man, they are fucking good because of it.

Ashie62 Feb 06 2018 03:00 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

Feels nice to have a Scarlet Knight in the lineup. Lets Go Mets!

Ceetar Feb 06 2018 03:04 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

Sure, but Strasburg is an injury expert and Scherzer has one of the biggest workloads of any pitcher. You gotta be reallllly nervous about the Nationals.

MFS62 Feb 06 2018 03:06 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

Benjamin Grimm wrote: "Thumb on Down" rhymes with "Come on Down" and is also a reference to the "Thumbs Down" guy on the Daily News cover. I figured the first one. Didn't realize the Post waits for the News covers before they publish.(Do they do that often?) I'll still say, "Screw you, Rupert Murdoch". Later

Benjamin Grimm Feb 06 2018 03:11 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

No, the Post doesn't wait for News covers! They're simply referring to the same event, in their own way. The "thumbs down" thing is public knowledge. The Post doesn't need to get it from the Daily News.

MFS62 Feb 06 2018 03:14 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

Benjamin Grimm wrote: No, the Post doesn't wait for News covers! They're simply referring to the same event, in their own way. The "thumbs down" thing is public knowledge. The Post doesn't need to get it from the Daily News. Funny they both referred/ used it on the same day for the same topic. Thanks. Later

Centerfield Feb 06 2018 03:16 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

I think I'm going to need an explanation on this thumbs down thing. I'm clearly not getting a reference.

Benjamin Grimm Feb 06 2018 03:19 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

Todd Frazier hit a home run at Citi Field during that game when the Tampa Bay Rays were the home team. "Thumbs Down Guy" was a Mets fan in the stands who was photographed glumly giving the "thumbs down" gesture after the homer. The image went viral. The guy even got a bobblehead and was recently photographed with Frazier at some event or another.

Benjamin Grimm Feb 06 2018 03:21 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

It appears that the bobblehead effect is rather slimming.

seawolf17 Feb 06 2018 03:21 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

Ceetar wrote: Scherzer has one of the biggest workloads of any pitcher. Plus he has that crazy eye thing.

MFS62 Feb 06 2018 03:28 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

Ahhhhh. Now all is clear. Didn't remember the reference. Later

cooby Feb 06 2018 03:33 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

Edgy MD wrote: It was fated to be. Rey!

Nymr83 Feb 06 2018 03:34 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

The Post wins for photoshopping him out of the MFY jersey

smg58 Feb 06 2018 03:38 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

Ceetar wrote: They've praised Frazier's adjustments last year. Plus his BABIP has been crazy low the last two. If he's truly learned how to walk and can build on that with the new team, he'll be good. Teams probably use a shift on him, which would lower the BABIP (see Granderson, Curtis and Duda, Lucas), although the .226 BABIP he had last year probably had some bad luck tied to it. A good OBP in spite of a bad average would make up for things, especially if it comes with plus power and plus defense. He's a decent pickup at a very good price. That sets up the infield. Now back to pitching.

Ceetar Feb 06 2018 03:41 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

seawolf17 wrote: Ceetar wrote: Scherzer has one of the biggest workloads of any pitcher. Plus he has that crazy eye thing. so does my cat. It makes it hard to hate him. Ceetar wrote: They've praised Frazier's adjustments last year. Plus his BABIP has been crazy low the last two. If he's truly learned how to walk and can build on that with the new team, he'll be good. Teams probably use a shift on him, which would lower the BABIP (see Granderson, Curtis and Duda, Lucas), although the .226 BABIP he had last year probably had some bad luck tied to it. A good OBP in spite of a bad average would make up for things, especially if it comes with plus power and plus defense. He's a decent pickup at a very good price. That sets up the infield. Now back to pitching. sure, although shifting hasn't lowered the league BABIP noticeably. But that's still 035-045 below his career norm.

Fman99 Feb 06 2018 04:18 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

I'm all done with the Thumbs guy. Like, the instant I heard about him.

Edgy MD Feb 06 2018 04:24 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

How do you feel about Freaks About New Jersey Transit Guy?

Fman99 Feb 06 2018 04:30 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

Edgy MD wrote: How do you feel about Freaks About New Jersey Transit Guy? He's also a shitass.

Edgy MD Feb 06 2018 04:33 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

Yeah, it gets kinda old when all folk-hero Met fans are overweight, middle-aged, white, miserable, and needy. Myself, notwithstanding.

Ceetar Feb 06 2018 05:00 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

[tweet:lx3t740q]https://twitter.com/dawn2dusk30/status/947087015719395328[/tweet:lx3t740q] Apparently you can just run into Todd at Home Depot.

41Forever Feb 06 2018 05:03 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

I don't get the obsession with the thumbs down guy in the tabs. I like this deal. Frazier can raise the Apple a bunch of times. He complements our elite masher (Cespedes) and our up-and-coming masher (Conforto) and even our respectable masher (Bruce) and provides decent defense, which we desperately need. I imagine Gonzalez is on a short leash. If he's decent, he can rake and we're all good. If not, he's a minimal gamble and we have other options. Frazier isn't a guy we build around, but he's a piece to the puzzle in a team that already has key parts. If our offense can make it so our stud pitchers don't feel like they have to throw a shutout every time out, we're good! Ceetar wrote: Scherzer has one of the biggest workloads of any pitcher. Plus he has that crazy eye thing. But he's very well-educated!

Edgy MD Feb 06 2018 05:09 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

Don't forget our washed-up masher (Gonzalez) and his apprentice masher (Smith). And again, this also kind of kicks aside (if not fully killing) any flirtation with trading good for bad to get Josh Harrison.

Centerfield Feb 06 2018 06:44 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

Edgy MD wrote: Don't forget our washed-up masher (Gonzalez) and his apprentice masher (Smith). And again, this also kind of kicks aside (if not fully killing) any flirtation with trading good for bad to get Josh Harrison. Agreed. One of the best parts of this deal is that it means we won't give up too much in a trade for Harrison, or sign Eduardo Nunez.

Benjamin Grimm Feb 06 2018 06:48 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

It seems like this is going to be another Mets team with a lot of solo homers. 41Forever wrote: If our offense can make it so our stud pitchers don't feel like they have to throw a shutout every time out, we're good! I would hate to have any of our several 6.00 ERA pitchers feel like they have to throw a shutout.

smg58 Feb 06 2018 06:54 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

Well yeah. Offense wasn't really our problem last year, and it won't be this year either. Defense was a problem, but I think that has been reasonably addressed. And that brings us back to pitching.

Frayed Knot Feb 06 2018 08:02 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

41Forever wrote: I don't get the obsession with the thumbs down guy in the tabs. The thing was that the Yanqui team picked up on it and so a whole dugout full of guys giving their own teammate the 'thumbs down' signal after a big hit became the thing to do over the second half of the season. So basically the Tabs are merely reflecting a trend that all started with Frazier, not creating one on their own.

Frayed Knot Feb 06 2018 08:03 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

Benjamin Grimm wrote: It appears that the bobblehead effect is rather slimming. That's true. I'm also much slimmer in my bobblehead.

G-Fafif Feb 06 2018 08:17 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

Frayed Knot wrote: 41Forever wrote: I don't get the obsession with the thumbs down guy in the tabs. The thing was that the Yanqui team picked up on it and so a whole dugout full of guys giving their own teammate the 'thumbs down' signal after a big hit became the thing to do over the second half of the season. So basically the Tabs are merely reflecting a trend that all started with Frazier, not creating one on their own. The thumb guy is not only a Mets fan but a talented and prolific photographer whose baseball work is a staple on other (gasp!) Mets boards. One of us, so to speak.

Benjamin Grimm Feb 06 2018 08:20 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

I too am a Mets forum poster with a bobblehead:

d'Kong76 Feb 06 2018 08:22 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

G-Fafif wrote: The thumb guy is not only a Mets fan but a talented and prolific photographer whose baseball work is a staple on other (gasp!) Mets boards. One of us, so to speak. I'm glad I didn't type what I was going to type a few hours ago!

G-Fafif Feb 06 2018 08:23 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

I too am a Mets forum poster with a bobblehead: Have Ben Grimm and the thumb guy ever been seen together at the same game?

Centerfield Feb 06 2018 08:24 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

smg58 wrote: Well yeah. Offense wasn't really our problem last year, and it won't be this year either. Defense was a problem, but I think that has been reasonably addressed. And that brings us back to pitching. I'm not sure I agree with that. It's true that our pitching was much worse than our offense (28th in ERA), but our offense was pretty bad too (19th in runs scored). Let's say Bruce makes up for Bruce, and Frazier makes up for Walker. Gonzalez/Smith will likely be a downgrade from the .879 OPS we got from Duda, and Rosario is a question mark. We get a bump from a hopefully healthy Cespedes and hopefully sustainable gains by d'arwecki. But there was a lot of room for improvement, and we haven't improved. Not yet.

Edgy MD Feb 06 2018 08:28 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

HEWJ gains to be had from replacing four months of Granderson with six months of Nimmo. Be-LIEVE me!

Benjamin Grimm Feb 06 2018 08:36 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

Do you really think Nimmo will get anywhere near the playing time that Granderson got? I mean, he might, but I don't think it's the most likely scenario.

Edgy MD Feb 06 2018 08:42 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

Given a few weeks to show his quality, he certainly could. And he's not likely to get moved at the deadline. And if he doesn't, that means he either fell on his face or things are going swimmingly at first, left, right, and in center with Conforto's return. So hey! I'm willing to eat it if that happens. I mean, the second thing. He's effectively a part of the equation at all four positions. If all four are running well without his help, I'm over the moon. Otherwise, deploy the Nimmo. He's our best option to hit leadoff!

Ashie62 Feb 06 2018 10:24 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

Thumbs down guy bears quite a resemblance to Mike Vaccaro.

Chad Ochoseis Feb 06 2018 10:39 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

Centerfield wrote: smg58 wrote: It's true that our pitching was much worse than our offense (28th in ERA), but our offense was pretty bad too (19th in runs scored). 19th isn't bad considering that every significant offensive piece we had was traded or injured by August. If the pitching were better, we would have held on to the hitting. I'd be curious where the offense stood on August 1, but a quick interweb search isn't yielding a monthly breakdown. Frazier was the best player available to fill a key need, and he's sufficiently cheap that he can be moved easily if the Mets want to make a 2019 run at Manny Machado. What's not to like? Pitching is a high standard deviation endeavor. A healthy DeGrom and Syndergaard and decent comebacks from Matz and Harvey aren't unimaginable. Of course, another complete meltdown is also not unimaginable. It's not a great team, but it's a team that can contend with a little bit of help from the baseball gods.

Centerfield Feb 06 2018 11:35 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

Mets fans, I ask you to be patient. I know the picture looks pretty bleak right now, and we're looking at nine miles of bad roads, but boy, wait 'til you see what we're working on. We've got some live young arms in the system. A few kids who can put it over the fence. And if it all breaks right, watch out. I know these next 5 or 6 years of rebuilding are going to be tough, but once it comes together, we fully expect to field a team that, with a little help from the baseball gods, can legitimately contend for the second wild card spot. -Fred Wilpon, 2009

cooby Feb 06 2018 11:41 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

CF you agitator you :)

Centerfield Feb 06 2018 11:52 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

Agitator? I'm not making fun of Chad's statement. I tend to agree that we can contend with a little bit of luck. Just commenting on the absurdity of the situation. Six years of rebuilding, 7 homegrown starting pitchers pan out, including two legitimate aces, a top notch home grown closer. Several homegrown offensive players, and we are left to hoping that with a little luck we can contend for the wild card. It's just shameful. Why would anyone choose to be a fan of this ridiculous club?

Edgy MD Feb 06 2018 11:55 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

Chad Ochoseis wrote: 19th isn't bad considering that every significant offensive piece we had was traded or injured by August. If the pitching were better, we would have held on to the hitting. I'd be curious where the offense stood on August 1, but a quick interweb search isn't yielding a monthly breakdown. On August 1, the Mets were eighth of 15 National League teams in runs scored. It's not really fair to compare National League teams to American League teams, but they were 16th overall. This year, as they finally have a leadoff batter for the first time since 2011, we won't even be talking about what place they're in, but how many standard deviations they're in front by.

Nymr83 Feb 07 2018 12:49 AM Re: In Goes Frazier!

Edgy is Nimmo's biggest fan.

41Forever Feb 07 2018 01:18 AM Re: In Goes Frazier!

Again, postseason two of the last three years including a pennant. One season devastated with across the board injuries. Every team needs luck to contend. If this team stays relatively healthy it will contend for the division crown, not a wild card.

Rockin' Doc Feb 07 2018 01:28 AM Re: In Goes Frazier!

Centerfield wrote: ...It's just shameful. Why would anyone choose to be a fan of this ridiculous club? We are a sad bunch. We seriously need professional help. I guess the best part of being a Mets fan is that, thankfully, I'm not a soulless bandwagon minion of the Yankees.

Lefty Specialist Feb 07 2018 01:41 AM Re: In Goes Frazier!

Centerfield wrote: ...It's just shameful. Why would anyone choose to be a fan of this ridiculous club? It's a dirty job, but somebody's got to do it.

Centerfield Feb 07 2018 01:43 AM Re: In Goes Frazier!

Nymr83 wrote: Edgy is Nimmo's biggest fan. I’d like to challenge for that title. I’m on the Nimmo bandwagon too. I think he is already pretty good. I think he can be really good. The results are already there. I’m inexplicably optimistic about super jack Juan Lagares too.

Edgy MD Feb 07 2018 02:07 AM Re: In Goes Frazier!

Really, I'm a fan of OBPs that approach or even pass .400. And I'm frustrated that a braintrust that reportedly seeks to stress plate discipline from scouting to development to acquisitions seemingly makes an exception just this once on every guy they acquire, every guy they promote, and every guy they give a chance to. And then they predictably ended up with a team that remarkably led the league in homers and finished short of the mean in runs scored. Can Nimmo change that tide? Probably not on his own, not without some luck, but he's a good step in the right direction. The 1983 Mets went from DFL in the National League in scoring to sixth in 1984, despite no major acquisitions. How'd they do it? Davey Johnson saw Wally Backman languishing in AAA the year before and promoted him to the top of the Mets lineup. Brian Giles was sent packing. Wally didn't do it on his own, but he was the shot that started the cultural change. I like Nimmo. He seems cute. His wife is something of a vampire, but that's neither here nor there. Don't let Nimmo languish. I'd hate to think that there's only room for him or Conforto and not both if both are putting up OBPs north of .350.

Centerfield Feb 07 2018 02:20 AM Re: In Goes Frazier!

And unlike Wally, when he connects he hits them to Wyoming. The power will emerge. Really like this guy.

41Forever Feb 07 2018 02:37 AM Re: In Goes Frazier!

Wait, I want to hear more about the vampire!

Edgy MD Feb 07 2018 02:43 AM Re: In Goes Frazier!

I don't want to disrespect Chelsea. I'm sure she's a lovely person, but she's got these two eyeteeth, and they're ... they're just not my thing. They probably drive Brandon wild. It takes all kinds.

Benjamin Grimm Feb 07 2018 03:24 AM Re: In Goes Frazier!

I also like Nimmo, but I suddenly find him much more intriguing now that I know he married a vampire!

Zvon Feb 07 2018 03:58 AM Re: In Goes Frazier!

How could you not root for this smile? So his wife has a couple a fangs? Looks like his has been filed down.

Ceetar Feb 07 2018 02:35 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

Rockin' Doc wrote: Centerfield wrote: ...It's just shameful. Why would anyone choose to be a fan of this ridiculous club? We are a sad bunch. We seriously need professional help. I guess the best part of being a Mets fan is that, thankfully, I'm not a soulless bandwagon minion of the Yankees. nah, fuck that. I love being a Mets fan and I wouldn't choose it any other way. It's fun. I enjoy it.

Ceetar Feb 07 2018 02:37 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

Edgy MD wrote: I like Nimmo. He seems cute. His wife is something of a vampire, but that's neither here nor there. Don't let Nimmo languish. I'd hate to think that there's only room for him or Conforto and not both if both are putting up OBPs north of .350. wait wait, what? I was in the same room as her, could I be bewitched? dammit, no wonder everyone was raving about his QBC appearance! Am I a Renfield?

Benjamin Grimm Feb 07 2018 02:40 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

cooby Feb 07 2018 03:36 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

Centerfield wrote: Agitator? I'm not making fun of Chad's statement. I tend to agree that we can contend with a little bit of luck. Just commenting on the absurdity of the situation. Six years of rebuilding, 7 homegrown starting pitchers pan out, including two legitimate aces, a top notch home grown closer. Several homegrown offensive players, and we are left to hoping that with a little luck we can contend for the wild card. It's just shameful. Why would anyone choose to be a fan of this ridiculous club? No I meant agitator because of the Wilpon quote in 2009 about 6 or so years

cooby Feb 07 2018 03:38 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I also like Nimmo, but I suddenly find him much more intriguing now that I know he married a vampire! wait, what?

Benjamin Grimm Feb 07 2018 03:41 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

Edgy MD wrote: I like Nimmo. He seems cute. His wife is something of a vampire, but that's neither here nor there.

Benjamin Grimm Feb 07 2018 03:46 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

Mrs. Brandon Nimmo:

cooby Feb 07 2018 04:20 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

It's just her pole dancer costume, maybe?

MFS62 Feb 07 2018 04:32 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

I'd say she looks more "there" than "here". Maybe even out there. Later

Benjamin Grimm Feb 07 2018 07:36 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

Frazier signing is official (as per an e-mail I just got from the Mets). I was wondering if they'd stall until February 14. I guess since they didn't (or couldn't) that means that someone else has to come off the 40-man roster?

Edgy MD Feb 07 2018 07:56 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

Early $$ back in Stockholm is on Matt Reynolds.

Lefty Specialist Feb 07 2018 08:09 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

Matt Reynolds, white courtesy phone.....

Edgy MD Feb 07 2018 08:59 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

Frayzee is press conferencing right now! Brodie Van Bandwagon is available to answer questions too! https://www.facebook.com/Mets/videos/10160053506635078/

Edgy MD Feb 07 2018 09:02 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

He's taking 21!! OMG, Lucas Duda is really GONE!!

Edgy MD Feb 07 2018 09:07 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

He texted with David Wright before signing and says he's rooting for Wright to be healthy. Hmmm ...

Vic Sage Feb 07 2018 09:28 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

Mrs. Brandon Nimmo: That's not a vampire, it's Vampirella!

MFS62 Feb 07 2018 10:18 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

Vic Sage wrote: That's not a vampire, it's Vampirella! Good catch. Uh, I mean good pick up. Uh, I mean ..... never mind. I prefer Selene, anyhow. Later

Ashie62 Feb 07 2018 11:32 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

Zvon wrote: How could you not root for this smile? So his wife has a couple a fangs? Looks like his has been filed down. It appears Brandon may be a Marlboro man.

Lefty Specialist Feb 08 2018 12:33 AM Re: In Goes Frazier!

Chewing tobacco, more likely.

Zvon Feb 08 2018 02:45 AM Re: In Goes Frazier!

Awwwww.... Matt Reynolds designated for assignment [url]https://www.sny.tv/mets/news/matt-reynolds-designated-for-assignment/266067008 Too big for his own britches? [fimg=600]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/FqArNc9HgeJGEHcbdorKzBVZ17BxnboGdTnvCxVbIuTU-2wQ2jHAseZJqTXkB2I9rWVSkkmwnTeO8W0NBxRDJBmo_sT8CoX5JkCri0NhTxnKQhayT9LM8I1ByoKJeiRoSh3MIUg0zyeAp0eI2DYJuCH5cbsBNBGQWYY5alWL0KzygzTS8xIGTTgTLhASvQvksSVcvZnS_FDJv9FDry1ydLJHiByZG7d6DHSypafAFOb3swzo5XkqudXMvlKHdZ58XYQrbg6IhVVBPY1Jqk5tBJzxHHe03kNj_5PB5DEqOj2SIVIAv2Uy_ROpM4B1Zc1ghQFArGCxfS9pCowf68UhGMykhTtVxVS6VAsKG9r9-jfdkvr_CIs1vd9QHBWDNMQoM9HEV79xQvxfDyGKL5HlZY9iB0tvGQhK46cz-CPQEz-rVDOCabxx1uCvKI9f5luzQzyAqbsECTsEKbuPpTKCzQv2_T4oP5G7d7g95A7UAOfVCxAZ_ohqoRN8S3uHrf31pYhiCyeUIFm25f_aODgckJRBScFh3rgiN5dymtd4XkabE421Vz6gpd7QwOfBbTKAE4DF2f8MwK_KISlYkMz_R4MQtFPFCkENh9O-L79Y=w997-h554-no[/fimg]

seawolf17 Feb 08 2018 05:12 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

For what it's worth, I used to work with a guy who grew up with Todd Frazier and hated the guy. His name is also Todd, and I guess they were something of athletic rivals. (My former colleague, apparently, lost.)

A Boy Named Seo Feb 08 2018 07:07 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

I never thought this until I heard him speak, but now Todd Frazier reminds me a lot of Chris Mullen.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Feb 08 2018 08:24 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

Jersey Mullin? I can see it... even if I can't hear it. That accent is pure Jersey shore. I think he's more like New Grandy-- clubhouse backpat leader, community high-fiver, super-reliable postgame quote. (Exhibit A: his introductory presser.)

Edgy MD Feb 08 2018 08:35 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

I like that port wine stain he sports behind his right eye socket. It speaks of a little no-bullshit character. No #gloryboy he.

G-Fafif Feb 08 2018 08:50 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

I'm just glad Frazier isn't Moustakas.

MFS62 Feb 09 2018 03:10 AM Re: In Goes Frazier!

G-Fafif wrote: I'm just glad Frazier isn't Moustakas. I love ya', man. That was a great piece. But (blushing) in my heart of hearts, my favorite all-time major leaguer is Frank Robinson, because in addition to his greatness as a player, he was a pioneer in the dugout and the front office. As a Brooklyn Dodger fan who saw Jackie Robinson lead the way on the field, I truly appreciated what Frank did, whether or not he was successful doing it But I'm with you on the rest of it. Go, Todd. Later

batmagadanleadoff Feb 16 2018 04:37 PM Re: In Goes Frazier!

Edgy MD wrote: If he's already brought duan back, the deal pays for itself. Win some, lose some.