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IGT 04/19 - Mets at Braves

d'Kong76 Apr 19 2018 02:21 PM

Mets RH Matt Harvey (0-1, 4.80 ERA) vs. Braves TBD (?-?, ?.??? ERA)

Vic Sage Apr 19 2018 03:29 PM Re: IGT 04/19 - Mets at Braves

Harvey pitching for his career?

d'Kong76 Apr 19 2018 05:29 PM Re: IGT 04/19 - Mets at Braves

That hadn't occurred to me but perhaps for a spot in the rotation in the near future? Speculation is Vargas will be good for a start in San Diego next weekend. Matz recovered nicely after that bad first inning last night so he's on less of a hot seat than Harv? We'll see.

TransMonk Apr 19 2018 05:40 PM Re: IGT 04/19 - Mets at Braves

I have yet to see too much from the 2018 Harvey that is different from the 2017 Harvey. It's getting harder and harder to believe that he is going to turn around.

A Boy Named Seo Apr 19 2018 06:34 PM Re: IGT 04/19 - Mets at Braves

I know it's cold and all, but Harv's average FB velocity is 92.6 per Fangraphs. If nothing else, we know the spring training guns were definitely on the juice.

seawolf17 Apr 19 2018 06:37 PM Re: IGT 04/19 - Mets at Braves

He looked so good in that first start. Come on, Harv.

Ceetar Apr 19 2018 06:48 PM Re: IGT 04/19 - Mets at Braves

His pitches still have movement, even very similar movement, though his velocity has come down every year ,even from last year (but it's a cold small sample still for this year) Mainly, he's working slower and guys are making more out of the zone contact. suggesting that he's just not fooling them or the pitch isn't breaking as much as usual so it doesn't drop away? But the movement seems similar so perhaps he's just missing his spots. There does seem to be some indication that he's not getting his changeup as low as he usually does. Difference between crushing it at the bottom of the zone and swinging over it? it's such a game of inches. The whole difference here might just be that previously Harvey could pinpoint the ball to a 3in circle and now he can only hit a 5in circle.

d'Kong76 Apr 19 2018 07:33 PM Re: IGT 04/19 - Mets at Braves

TBD = RHP Matt Wisler from Triple-A Gwinnett

Benjamin Grimm Apr 19 2018 07:48 PM Re: IGT 04/19 - Mets at Braves

. [bigpurple:2czdeebb]OH NO![/bigpurple:2czdeebb]

d'Kong76 Apr 19 2018 08:21 PM Re: IGT 04/19 - Mets at Braves

[tweet:2pi51mxk]https://twitter.com/Mets/status/987062070393925633[/tweet:2pi51mxk] [tweet:2pi51mxk]https://twitter.com/Braves/status/987055132411080705[/tweet:2pi51mxk]

G-Fafif Apr 19 2018 08:22 PM Re: IGT 04/19 - Mets at Braves

Flown in from New York fresh! Conforto CF Cespedes LF Cabrera 2B Bruce RF Frazier 3B Gonzalez 1B Lobaton C Harvey P Rosario SS Gonzalez was a Brave in name if not in actuality this past winter.

Ceetar Apr 19 2018 08:27 PM Re: IGT 04/19 - Mets at Braves

music

Frayed Knot Apr 19 2018 08:36 PM Re: IGT 04/19 - Mets at Braves

d'Kong76 wrote: TBD = RHP Matt Wisler from Triple-A Gwinnett Wisler has faced the Mets ten times previously (6 starts) including five time in 2017 - so this isn't some unknown quantity here. Overall he's 3-2 with a 3.66 ERA and 1.24 WHiP

Elster88 Apr 19 2018 11:47 PM Re: IGT 04/19 - Mets at Braves

The right side of the infield showing very limited range there. Gonzalez was holding the runner on but that was one of the softest grounders I’ve seen get through an infield.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 19 2018 11:56 PM Re: IGT 04/19 - Mets at Braves

Harvey = Sux

Centerfield Apr 19 2018 11:58 PM Re: IGT 04/19 - Mets at Braves

Fucking Harvey. He’s done.

MFS62 Apr 20 2018 12:13 AM Re: IGT 04/19 - Mets at Braves

How long are they going to go before they get their first hit tonight? My over/under= 4 1/3. Later

Fman99 Apr 20 2018 12:23 AM Re: IGT 04/19 - Mets at Braves

He's pretty crappy.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 20 2018 12:24 AM Re: IGT 04/19 - Mets at Braves

Hey Harv! Boooooooo

Benjamin Grimm Apr 20 2018 12:27 AM Re: IGT 04/19 - Mets at Braves

He's making me long for Tyler Pill and Tommy Milone.

cooby Apr 20 2018 12:56 AM Re: IGT 04/19 - Mets at Braves

Sad

MFS62 Apr 20 2018 01:06 AM Re: IGT 04/19 - Mets at Braves

Shoulda' bet the under. Later

41Forever Apr 20 2018 01:27 AM Re: IGT 04/19 - Mets at Braves

Is Vargas Day coming soon?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 20 2018 01:40 AM Re: IGT 04/19 - Mets at Braves

Blevvy gives up another 2 hits to lefties

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 20 2018 01:42 AM Re: IGT 04/19 - Mets at Braves

Make that 3 lefties with hits, the 3rd merely clears the bases

Rockin' Doc Apr 20 2018 01:42 AM Re: IGT 04/19 - Mets at Braves

Make it 3 hits to lefties and 3 runs allowed.

Fman99 Apr 20 2018 01:43 AM Re: IGT 04/19 - Mets at Braves

Centerfield Apr 20 2018 01:54 AM Re: IGT 04/19 - Mets at Braves

Um. Why would you bring in our lone overworked lefty tonight?

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 20 2018 02:08 AM Re: IGT 04/19 - Mets at Braves

Hey we're one swing, and then another 4 swings, from making this a game again.

Edgy MD Apr 20 2018 02:09 AM Re: IGT 04/19 - Mets at Braves

One plus three now. Nimmo does what Nimmo does, getting on base when we really needed him to get on base. Got to get him into the lineup.

Rockin' Doc Apr 20 2018 02:11 AM Re: IGT 04/19 - Mets at Braves

Damn, the Braves considered starting Sims tonight, but decided to call Wisler up and have him start instead. Unfortunately for the Mets, the Braves made the right choice. Sims really sucked in relief of Wisler.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 20 2018 02:12 AM Re: IGT 04/19 - Mets at Braves

Centerfield wrote: Um. Why would you bring in our lone overworked lefty tonight? Blevins has been awful, with and without rest and geez faced more than 1 batter only 2 or 3 times all year. I wouldn't call him overworked. I'd call him shit.

Nymr83 Apr 20 2018 02:16 AM Re: IGT 04/19 - Mets at Braves

Lagares hacking at the first pitch a bit too eagerly there

cooby Apr 20 2018 02:27 AM Re: IGT 04/19 - Mets at Braves

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Hey we're one swing, and then another 4 swings, from making this a game again. Most mostiest quote ever!

Edgy MD Apr 20 2018 02:37 AM Re: IGT 04/19 - Mets at Braves

Down by eight, in the ninth, two runners on ahead of him, ahead in the count 2-0, and Lóbaton swings. Such a messed-up universe.

Zvon Apr 20 2018 02:48 AM Re: IGT 04/19 - Mets at Braves

Benjamin Grimm Apr 20 2018 11:23 AM Re: IGT 04/19 - Mets at Braves

Cast your vote!

Centerfield Apr 20 2018 01:50 PM Re: IGT 04/19 - Mets at Braves

I really don't get using Blevins last night. The more I think about it, the less sense it makes. First off, Blevins has appeared in 11 games. That's 1 off the MLB lead (12, Blake Wood and Sam Freeman). Granted he hadn't pitched since Monday, but generally we are going to want to limit Jerry's appearances as much as possible given he's our only lefty. Secondly, it's a 4 game series. Why would you give them a look at Jerry in a spot like that? You figure FFF is going to come up in a high leverage spot some time this weekend. Why give him extra looks in a blowout Game 1? And allowing him to face that many batters. Now you may have burned him for tonight. (Or if you pitch him tonight, for the day after). Makes no sense. And not that I think it ultimately made a difference, but without the Blevins blowup, the winning run comes to the plate in that 8th inning.

A Boy Named Seo Apr 20 2018 02:18 PM Re: IGT 04/19 - Mets at Braves

Would be nice to hear a "whatever's best for the team" here, but it's Harvey. [tweet:33vrzq05]https://twitter.com/AnthonyDiComo/status/987163018390921217[/tweet:33vrzq05]

Centerfield Apr 20 2018 02:21 PM Re: IGT 04/19 - Mets at Braves

Fastball: Shot Breaking pitches: Shot Control: Shot Being a Dickhead: Mid season form.

A Boy Named Seo Apr 20 2018 02:35 PM Re: IGT 04/19 - Mets at Braves

Centerfield wrote: Fastball: Shot Breaking pitches: Shot Control: Shot Being a Dickhead: Mid season form. Yepp. Trying to imagine how that conversation would go with any other player. They're all pros and they want to play every day, of course. I'm certain Reyes still wants to play every day, but at least he knows he sucks right now and accepts his role. Throw Harvey's ass in the pen. Let him try to hit mid-90s for an inning and sniff success again. Or be playing for the Long Island Ducks in 2 years. Whatever, dude.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 20 2018 02:49 PM Re: IGT 04/19 - Mets at Braves

I have to think that releasing him is an option that's on the table.

batmagadanleadoff Apr 20 2018 03:01 PM Re: IGT 04/19 - Mets at Braves

What if the Mets decide they don't want Harvey around for a while but don't wanna release him? They could DL him with some fake injury --- if Harvey goes along with the ruse. Or you could have another ugly Ollie Perez situation with Harvey taking up a spot on the 25 even though the Mets might be loathe to use him.

A Boy Named Seo Apr 20 2018 03:09 PM Re: IGT 04/19 - Mets at Braves

Vegas, baby. Vegas.

Benjamin Grimm Apr 20 2018 03:23 PM Re: IGT 04/19 - Mets at Braves

Waivers, baby. Waivers.

A Boy Named Seo Apr 20 2018 04:00 PM Re: IGT 04/19 - Mets at Braves

I'm dumb on transaction stuff, but if Harvey has options (which I think he prob does), the Mets could simply demote him without exposing him to waivers, no?

d'Kong76 Apr 20 2018 04:26 PM Re: IGT 04/19 - Mets at Braves

I share dumbness on this, hopefully someone here can clarify. We should probable start a Harvey Rumble Pony thread or something.

batmagadanleadoff Apr 20 2018 04:52 PM Re: IGT 04/19 - Mets at Braves

Because Harvey has at least five years service time, the Mets would need his consent to assign him to the minors. Interesting -- Harvey came up seven seasons ago, but pitched more than 100 innings in a season only twice.

Chad Ochoseis Apr 20 2018 05:02 PM Re: IGT 04/19 - Mets at Braves

Gary and Ron talked about that last night, sometime around the fifth or sixth inning. Gary broached the topic of Harvey going to Vegas to work on things and Ron used up about five hundred words of verbal gymnastics to say diplomatically, "Harvey's way too much of a dickhead to ever accept a minor league assignment".

John Cougar Lunchbucket Apr 20 2018 05:11 PM Re: IGT 04/19 - Mets at Braves

Yes that was an interesting exchange.

d'Kong76 Apr 20 2018 05:51 PM Re: IGT 04/19 - Mets at Braves

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Because Harvey has at least five years service time, the Mets would need his consent to assign him to the minors. Thanks, I mean I guess I know this. For some reason DFA's, waivers and such makes me skittish to speak definitively about transactions.

Benjamin Grimm May 10 2018 03:25 PM Re: IGT 04/19 - Mets at Braves