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So speaking of the draft ...

Frayed Knot Apr 27 2018 10:32 PM

Baseball's version comes up on June 4-6, and, as in that other sport, it's never too early to hear over-analysis from folks who pretend to know what they're talking about and/or cite the opinions of others as if that knowledge is their own ... and that's where we come in. From Jonathan Mayo at mlb.com: Coming into the spring, scouts were enthusiastically optimistic about the talent in this year's class. That's still the case, though it's a scout's job to be critical, and every spring scout will poke holes in any class. This year's crop appears to have more depth than elite talent at the top, with the prep set -- particularly pitching -- leading the way. "It's a high school dominant Draft," one National League scouting director said. "There are some good college players at the top of the Draft, though maybe not the star potential of some of the Drafts of the past." That last sentence flies in the face of the 'all this winning is terrible' attitude from late last season. At the moment, Casey Mize is being talked about as a cut above the rest Anyway, here's what mlb.com's current top ten looks like: 1. Casey Mize, RHP, Auburn 2. Carter Stewart, RHP, Eau Gallie HS (Melbourne, Fla.) -- I truly hope that school is pronounced: Oh Golly! 3. Nick Madrigal, 2B/SS, Oregon State 4. Matt Liberatore, LHP, Mountain Ridge HS (Riverdale, Ariz.) 5. Brady Singer, RHP, Florida 6. Shane McClanahan, LHP, South Florida -- if he busts the team that chooses him will Rue that pick 7. Travis Swaggerty, OF, South Alabama 8. Jarred Kelenic, OF, Waukesha (Wisc.) West HS -- we expect a full scouting report from Monk in this guy 9. Joey Bart, C, Georgia Tech 10. Jonathan India, 3B, Florida ... and then here are the rest of the top 100 in case you want to keep alive a CPF tradition of latching onto the coolest name and rooting for him to still be around when the Mets pick at #6. Kumar Rocker is the leader in that clubhouse for now. Draft Order: 1. Tigers 2. Giants 3. Phillies 4. White Sox 5. Reds 6. Mets 7. Padres 8. Braves 9. Athletics 10. Pirates 11. Orioles 12. Blue Jays 13. Marlins 14. Mariners 15. Rangers 16. Rays 17. Angels 18. Royals 19. Cardinals 20. Twins 21. Brewers 22. Rockies 23. Yankees 24. Cubs 25. D-backs 26. Red Sox 27. Nationals 28. Astros 29. Indians 30. Dodgers The Mets will next draft 48th, 83rd, 110th, and then every 30 picks after that.

Nymr83 Apr 27 2018 11:30 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

I don't want a guy named "Rocker" ! Seth Beer still has the best name, but is sadly a likely DH

Benjamin Grimm Apr 28 2018 02:32 AM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

I'd like to know Brady Singer's story. And how that fellow met his lady.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Apr 28 2018 04:22 AM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

Madrigal and Singer both sound fine, though I'm also feeling real confident-ish about Swaggerty.

Edgy MD Apr 28 2018 01:08 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

I wonder how much having a name that evokes two Hall-of-Famers helps get you to the top of the list.

bmfc1 May 01 2018 04:41 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

Mock: https://www.mlb.com/news/projections-fo ... =151437456 Joey Bart: https://www.blessyouboys.com/2018/5/1/1 ... oit-tigers

Frayed Knot May 02 2018 12:48 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

Jonathan Mayo (from the 'mock' link above): Mets have gone the college route recently, taking three college arms with first-round picks in 2017 and two in 2016. The last college bat they took was Michael Conforto in 2014, and he got to the big leagues in a hurry. The last high school pitcher the Mets took in the first round was Michael Fulmer back in 2011 and that seems like a less likely avenue for them ... Not just to pick on Mayo, cuz most of these projections do the exact same thing, but I love how they make predictions on what type of player teams will pick with their top choice based solely on how they spent their most recent two or three 1st round picks, as if those choices represent an unalterable pattern. When I first started following drafts a bit the pundits were forever talking about the Mets as being a strictly college team who were all about pitching - at which point they proceeded to spend their next five #1s in a row on position players, three of them HS'ers [Nimmo, Plawecki, Cecchini, Smith, Conforto]. And now that they reversed that mini-trend and used their last three #1s on college pitching [Kay, Dunn, Peterson] it's suddenly assumed that the cement is already set for this coming year and those previous five drafts have as much to do with the current team as Casey Stengel and Jay Hook.

HahnSolo May 02 2018 01:10 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

Ryan Weathers looks exactly like his dad.

bmfc1 May 15 2018 12:35 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

Another mock: https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/2018-ml ... aft-v-2-0/

MFS62 May 15 2018 01:04 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

Omar Minaya had a great reputation for being able to scout and evaluate talent. The Mets rehired him last December as Special Assistant to Sandy Alderson. I would guess his job will be to help the team restock its farm system. His first test will be the upcoming draft. Let's see if he can put the organization back on the right track. I thought of putting this is the " So What Now?" thread, but this seemed more appropriate because of the timing wrt the draft. Later

bmfc1 May 23 2018 01:21 AM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

The Athletic's latest mock. With all due respect to Shane's university, I'd rather the Mets get a college hitter. 6. New York Mets (slot value: $5,525,200) Selection: Shane McClanahan, LHP, South Florida The Mets have gone with pitchers with their last two top picks and they could go with a hitter here, but McClanahan’s potential as a top-of-the-rotation left-hander is tough to ignore. He has 111 strikeouts in just 66 innings this season. Although his command has come and gone at times this year, McClanahan has shown plus stuff, with his fastball touching triple digits and his changeup ranking among the best in this class. The South Florida ace had Tommy John surgery his freshman year, and command issues aren’t uncommon the first couple of years after that surgery. Others in play at this spot include India and South Alabama CF Travis Swaggerty. https://theathletic.com/363388?shared_by=133087

Frayed Knot May 26 2018 03:11 AM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

The latest mocks have college players going in each of the first six picks as both Jim Callis and Jonathan Mayo agree on the opening seven selections. With the Mets picking 6th, their likely to either get what's left of the early college picks or their first choice of the HS guys. That could mean either Jonathan India, 3B, U of Florida, or Matthew Libatore a LHP out of a Glendale Arizona HS Various scouting thumbnails on the upper level players can be found here

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 26 2018 03:31 AM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

Looking like Swaggerty or India, no? If Madrigal hung around, though...?

Centerfield May 31 2018 05:25 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

bmfc1 wrote: The Athletic's latest mock. With all due respect to Shane's university, I'd rather the Mets get a college hitter. 6. New York Mets (slot value: $5,525,200) Selection: Shane McClanahan, LHP, South Florida The Mets have gone with pitchers with their last two top picks and they could go with a hitter here, but McClanahan’s potential as a top-of-the-rotation left-hander is tough to ignore. He has 111 strikeouts in just 66 innings this season. Although his command has come and gone at times this year, McClanahan has shown plus stuff, with his fastball touching triple digits and his changeup ranking among the best in this class. The South Florida ace had Tommy John surgery his freshman year, and command issues aren’t uncommon the first couple of years after that surgery. Others in play at this spot include India and South Alabama CF Travis Swaggerty. https://theathletic.com/363388?shared_by=133087 Sounds risky to me. I think the Mets would eventually rue McClanahan.

Edgy MD May 31 2018 05:28 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

I hope they get India inked.

Frayed Knot Jun 02 2018 12:35 AM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

MLB.com takes a look at the 2008 draft and re-drafts with a decade's worth of hindsight wisdom. They don't explain what criteria they use to determine this new order, but it seems fairly reasonable. Below is shown their top ten choices next to their actual round & overall pick and how many slots this re-draft would improve or drop them from their real draft position. — PLAYER Actual Round / Pick + / - 1 BUSTER POSEY 1 / 5 +4 2 BRANDON CRAWFORD 4 / 117 +115 3 ERIC HOSMER 1 / 3 Even 4 CRAIG KIMBREL 3 / 96 +92 5 CHARLIE BLACKMON 2 / 72 +67 6 TANNER ROARK 25 / 753 +747 7 LANCE LYNN 1 / 39 +32 8 JOSH HARRISON 6 / 191 +183 9 LOGAN FORSYTHE 1 / 46 +37 10 JAKE ODORIZZI 1 / 32 +22 Nice job by the Giants here who got the consensus 1st & 2nd best players in that year's draft with the 5th and 117th picks. This exercise has the Mets picking infielder Lonnie Chisenhall instead of Ike Davis (18th), and then RHP Brad Brach with the 22nd choice rather than the never to be a ML'er Reese Havens In the meantime, the real 1st round/2008 featured such luminaries as Kyle Skipworth (6th overall), Aaron Crow (9th), Ethan Martin (15), David Cooper (17), Ryan Perry (21), and Daniel Schlereth (26)

bmfc1 Jun 04 2018 02:28 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

It's Draft Day! Fangraphs and The Big Lead have the Mets taking a cold-weather HS OF (Nimmo, the sequel). And because it's the Mets, they can save money which is more important to them than picking the best player available. 6. New York Mets – Jarred Kelenic, OF, Waukesha HS (WI) We think this is Kelenic or Florida third baseman Jonathan India, with late and hard momentum to Kelenic here for slightly below slot. If for some reason Mize doesn’t go No. 1 and goes at No. 3, that means Bohm is here, and they may prefer him to Kelenic, and it sounds like they do prefer him to India. They’ve been tied to some upside prep names in the second round like New York prep righty Lenny Torres, and they have been mentioned with Southern Miss righty Nick Sandlin in the third.

TransMonk Jun 04 2018 02:39 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

If they take Kelenic, I'll head to Waukesha for the CPF exclusive interview. I missed in the opening post that I was supposed to scout this dude. FWIW, I've never heard of him.

A Boy Named Seo Jun 04 2018 05:55 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

I find myself really hoping we land that India kid. 'Best all-around college hitter' were things being said about Conforto, too, and it didn't take him long to get to the bigs. India or bust!

Benjamin Grimm Jun 04 2018 06:05 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

He also has a great name. I wonder what its origin is?

A Boy Named Seo Jun 04 2018 06:22 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

Benjamin Grimm wrote: He also has a great name. I wonder what its origin is? He's from Florida, so I'm hoping his ancestors were lost spice traders. I'm imagining his great great great great (great) grandad was called Gianni, but everyone kept giving him shit for not making it to India, his true destination. "Hey, you clay-brained strumpet, aren't you supposed to be in India right now instead of this seaport named after Saint Lucie? Hardy har-har, I say!" And when another Gianni eventually showed up to Seaport Saint Lucie, they simply started calling this one Gianni India. THE END Draft Gianathan India!

Vic Sage Jun 04 2018 09:00 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

Boehm please.

A Boy Named Seo Jun 04 2018 09:50 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

Draft coverage starts in 15 min (6pm Eastern) but first pick isn't for another hour after that, so it will prob be an hour and a half before we hop on the Darjeeling Limited and book our ticket to India.

A Boy Named Seo Jun 04 2018 11:17 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

As expected, Mize goes first to Detroit. Mets choose in 5 picks.

bmfc1 Jun 04 2018 11:19 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ... Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 04 2018 11:39 PM

Fangraphs still has the Mets taking the under-slot guy, I mean Kelenic. India invades Cincinnati.

A Boy Named Seo Jun 04 2018 11:26 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

Phillies get 3B Alec Bohm. I think that's Vic's dreamboat? I hope he's a turd.

A Boy Named Seo Jun 04 2018 11:36 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

Oregon State shorty Madrigal goes 5th to the ChiSox. Reds on deck. Mets in the hole.

A Boy Named Seo Jun 04 2018 11:39 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

Those sonsabitches in Cincy grabbed my India. Mets on the clock. WHAT NOW

Methead Jun 04 2018 11:43 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

With all these hitters off the board, I guess it wouldn't be a surprise if they grabbed that HS lefty Liberatore

bmfc1 Jun 04 2018 11:50 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

It's Jarred (2 R's) Kelenick. Billy Ripken says that "he loves to swing the bat" and "he comes to play every day" so I'm sold. MLBN comps: Logan Morrison and Mark Kotsay.

A Boy Named Seo Jun 05 2018 12:00 AM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

Monk, you are officially dispatched to Waukesha. Save your receipts.

Edgy MD Jun 05 2018 12:55 AM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

Why is Kelenic considered a cheap, underslot move?

TransMonk Jun 05 2018 01:08 AM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

Jarred Kelenic of Waukesha West High School becomes highest MLB draft pick from Wisconsin [youtube]05io-RPX0Vw[/youtube] MLB Draft: Jarred Kelenic took an unconventional route Jarred on Instagram

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 05 2018 01:47 AM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

It's Jarred (2 R's) Kelenick. Billy Ripken says that "he loves to swing the bat" and "he comes to play every day" so I'm sold. MLBN comps: Logan Morrison and Mark Kotsay. So... He's got Kotsay upside? HOT DOG! Blanche Devereaux Jr. is still out there through 27 picks, FWiW. (As is Kumar Rocker!!!!!)

MFS62 Jun 05 2018 01:58 AM Re: So speaking of the draft ... Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 05 2018 02:30 AM

Oh great. He "loves to swing the bat" on a home made field (because his town doesn't have one?) with friends and family pitching? So would I. And he hits lefty? Wonderful. Has he even batted against a lefty throwing a breaking ball? Ever? His ML comp is Mark Kotsay? I'll save you looking it up. Mark Kotsay was a career .276/ .332/ .404 hitter with a 96 OPS score. Oh. He's an outfielder. At least he's not a shortstop. (S/M = 94. I think it needs a tune up) But, the last time the Mets drafted a player with similar background (small town with no HS team, lefty hitter) it was Brandon Nimmo. That's worked out OK. So who knows? Later

A Boy Named Seo Jun 05 2018 02:19 AM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

The MLB draft is funny. That Libertore kid was the 4th rated kid by MLB and he went 16th. Hot shot #2 rated Brady Singer went #18 to the Royals. I know the slot $$ plays into it (which is stupid anyway) but this kinda shit would never go down in the NBA. Maybe baseball players are still tougher to project than other sports. Who knows.

Edgy MD Jun 05 2018 02:56 AM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

MFS62 wrote: Oh great. He "loves to swing the bat" on a home made field (because his town doesn't have one?) with friends and family pitching? So would I. And he hits lefty? Wonderful. Has he even batted against a lefty throwing a breaking ball? Ever? His ML comp is Mark Kotsay? I'll save you looking it up. Mark Kotsay was a career .276/ .332/ .404 hitter with a 96 OPS score. Oh. He's an outfielder. At least he's not a shortstop. (S/M = 94. I think it needs a tune up) But, the last time the Mets drafted a player with similar background (small town with no HS team, lefty hitter) it was Brandon Nimmo. That's worked out OK. So who knows? Later I think it's being misunderstood that his high school didn't have a team, and so he didn't play organized baseball, but learned the game playing sandlot ball. But that's not true at all. His high school did have a team. But they played a summer season and he was busy playing in more competitive leagues during the summer. His family didn't have a "home-made field." They helped build an 11-field, high-end baseball academy. He played against top competition from ambitious families from a young age and developed to the point where, by the time he reached high school, joining his school's team would have been a step backwards. He played with the USA baseball team and was their MVP in the Pan Am Games ... as a sophomore. Last year, he helped bring home gold with the under-18 squad in the Baseball World Cup. He was the first school boy chosen, and if he isn't the most projectable talent among high school seniors in the draft, he's almost certainly the farthest along.

Nymr83 Jun 05 2018 04:27 AM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

Draft for talent not for need. This guy is years away and who knows how redundant a lefty hitting outfielder will seem by then.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 05 2018 06:15 AM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

The second-rounder is ranked in the mid-100s on most prospect lists, flashes 5 above-average pitches BUT offers nothing consistently good/great, and according to some whispers has a high asking price, given his commitment to in-state Texas. (And was taken with guys like Dallas Baptist stud OF Jameson Hannah and several other much more highly-regarded prep arms on the board.) Hot diggity dog!

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 05 2018 11:29 AM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

Mark Kotsay had a 17-year career in the bigs. Don't sneeze at that neither. Simeon Woods Richardson seems to go just by the surname "Woods" His twitter ID already says he's a Met but previously said he was committed to kollege. I guess the strategy here, not that I get it, is to use extra the $$ they get for this round to convince the young man to skip college. https://twitter.com/simeon_woods

bmfc1 Jun 05 2018 12:04 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

The second-rounder is ranked in the mid-100s on most prospect lists, flashes 5 above-average pitches BUT offers nothing consistently good/great, and according to some whispers has a high asking price, given his commitment to in-state Texas. (And was taken with guys like Dallas Baptist stud OF Jameson Hannah and several other much more highly-regarded prep arms on the board.) Hot diggity dog! The write-up at mlb.com (under his name) isn't great: https://www.mlb.com/draft/tracker/round-2 but I guess he's signing: [tweet]https://twitter.com/simeon_woods/status/1003850098776924160[/tweet]

Benjamin Grimm Jun 05 2018 12:36 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

"Simeon Woods" sounds like a good name for an ape sanctuary.

seawolf17 Jun 05 2018 12:38 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

MFS62 wrote: But, the last time the Mets drafted a player with similar background (small town with no HS team, lefty hitter) it was Brandon Nimmo. That's worked out OK. So who knows? Yeah, I feel like Nimmo is our (best-case?) parallel right now. Regardless, it'll be a few years since we hear from him, so no worries.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 05 2018 01:36 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

Grant Brisbee gave our pick a D. But in all fairness to Tommy Tanous, those rocs are quieter than you'd think, and grade out at, like, a 70 for speed, easy.

seawolf17 Jun 05 2018 01:43 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Grant Brisbee gave our pick a D. But in all fairness to Tommy Tanous, those rocs are quieter than you'd think, and grade out at, like, a 70 for speed, easy. RIP, Jarred.

MFS62 Jun 05 2018 01:50 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Grant Brisbee gave our pick a D. But in all fairness to Tommy Tanous, those rocs are quieter than you'd think, and grade out at, like, a 70 for speed, easy. I think his point was that because he was drafted by the Mets he is destined to failure. He also basically admitted that judging these guys so early is a crapshoot. I have hope, despite the usual sarcasm in my response above. Later

A Boy Named Seo Jun 05 2018 04:01 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

I wonder why MLB's draft prognostication is still such a crapshoot? Back in the day when you could see a guy once or twice in person and there was no video, sure. But there's so much info on all the players now and hours of film. Looking at more recent drafts, there seem to be way more major leaguers in the top of the draft. I think as a sport, they're dialing it in pretty well. Still odd to me that a couple of blue chippers that seemingly everybody loves would drop ~15 spots in the first round. I know the NBA is different, but no way Luca Doncic will fall 15 spots.

Edgy MD Jun 05 2018 04:07 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

Baseball is hard. Also, with amateurs playing mostly with aluminum bats, often on synthetic fields, they're largely playing a different game. That leaves a hole of speculation in the middle of even the most comprehensive scouting efforts. Lastly, I have to celebrate whenever any organization deviates from the prevailing philosophy, win or lose. Draft watchers always miss that, but it's fun.

Centerfield Jun 05 2018 04:24 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

On the other hand, MLB drafts are great fodder for second guessers. None of us are qualified in any way to make any distinction between these players. So we are not about to actually make any selections ourselves except to pick out cool sounding names. And you can all but guarantee there will be some Cody Bellinger that emerges that your team passed on where you can say "We let Bellinger go and selected Joe Swinganmiss? How stupid!"

Centerfield Jun 05 2018 04:25 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

Anyway, I like what I'm reading about Kelenic. Maybe a bit short for a corner OF, but sounds like a hitter and an overall athlete. I read a few articles about an eventual OF of Conforto, Nimmo and Kelenic. Let's be honest. The chances of Conforto and Kelenic being teammates is pretty slim, for a number of reasons.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 05 2018 05:10 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

Round 3 starting up...

bmfc1 Jun 05 2018 05:12 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

Round 3 is only on mlb.com and it's us watching 3 guys listening to the picks. Way to go MLB! https://www.mlb.com/video/2018-mlb-draf ... =262722544

A Boy Named Seo Jun 05 2018 05:13 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

Mets just went now. Looks like Carlos Cortes, 20-year old second baseman out of South Carolina.

A Boy Named Seo Jun 05 2018 05:15 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

he's a switch thrower! throws lefty as an outfielder and righty as an infielder!

bmfc1 Jun 05 2018 05:21 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

Apparently, the Mets drafted him 2016 as well, so Sandy really must like him.

Nymr83 Jun 05 2018 05:24 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

Centerfield wrote: On the other hand, MLB drafts are great fodder for second guessers. None of us are qualified in any way to make any distinction between these players. So we are not about to actually make any selections ourselves except to pick out cool sounding names. And you can all but guarantee there will be some Cody Bellinger that emerges that your team passed on where you can say "We let Bellinger go and selected Joe Swinganmiss? How stupid!" Joe Swinganmiss would definitely be a Met.

Edgy MD Jun 05 2018 05:25 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

If he isn't Cortes the Killer, I'm retiring from the nickname business.

Centerfield Jun 05 2018 05:29 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

If we're doing nicknames, we just drafted Jarred Colonic.

A Boy Named Seo Jun 05 2018 05:33 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

Centerfield wrote: On the other hand, MLB drafts are great fodder for second guessers. None of us are qualified in any way to make any distinction between these players. So we are not about to actually make any selections ourselves except to pick out cool sounding names. And you can all but guarantee there will be some Cody Bellinger that emerges that your team passed on where you can say "We let Bellinger go and selected Joe Swinganmiss? How stupid!" I obviously agree, but the crapshooting becomes infinitely crapshootier in the later rounds. The top half of the first round shouldn't be too much dart-throwing in 2018.

Benjamin Grimm Jun 05 2018 05:46 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

Centerfield wrote: If we're doing nicknames, we just drafted Jarred Colonic. Please describe, in detail, your Nickname Methodology.

Edgy MD Jun 05 2018 05:48 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

Centerfield wrote: If we're doing nicknames, we just drafted Jarred Colonic. I'm calling him Bartolo.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 05 2018 05:53 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

4th round guy: South carolina RHP Adam Hill. 6-6, 215 #140th ranked guy w/ 110th pick

seawolf17 Jun 05 2018 05:57 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

Centerfield wrote: "We let Bellinger go and selected Joe Swinganmiss? How stupid!" Honestly, though, dude should *not* have chosen baseball as a career with a name like that.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 05 2018 06:05 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

So the Mets drafted Gamecock teammates 3+4. Similarly, Ed Lynch and Mookie Wilson were also college teammates at South Carolina

Benjamin Grimm Jun 05 2018 06:11 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

seawolf17 wrote: Centerfield wrote: "We let Bellinger go and selected Joe Swinganmiss? How stupid!" Honestly, though, dude should *not* have chosen baseball as a career with a name like that.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 05 2018 06:35 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

Round 5: Ryley Gilliam, RHRP, Clemson 5-foot-10 reliver with live arm, TV guys think he could arrive soon

A Boy Named Seo Jun 05 2018 06:46 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

A little bit on Riley ---> http://www.goupstate.com/news/20180601/ ... ws-no-fear

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 05 2018 07:28 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

round 6: Nick Meyer, C, Cal-Poly San Luis Obispo. MLB guys envision him as a potential future backup catcher Look out, Lobaton!

bmfc1 Jun 05 2018 07:29 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

Born with 2 left thumbs and he has a great mustache! http://www.sanluisobispo.com/sports/col ... 62419.html 10th ranked C in the draft but the best fielder: https://www.mlb.com/news/top-catcher-to ... -278840372

A Boy Named Seo Jun 05 2018 08:46 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

bmfc1 wrote: Born with 2 left thumbs and he has a great mustache! http://www.sanluisobispo.com/sports/col ... 62419.html 10th ranked C in the draft but the best fielder: https://www.mlb.com/news/top-catcher-to ... -278840372 That's our 6th pick, Nick Meyer, catcher of San Luis Obispo and then we got Kevin Smith, a LHP out of the U of Georgia. Curious if we target Jay this round to compliment Silent Bob.

A Boy Named Seo Jun 05 2018 08:53 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

Mets draft 6'7" 230 lb monster righty Tylor Megill out of the U of Arizona. Here he is throwing baseballs to the soundtrack of sugary pop music. [youtube:2k91cvgb]eQbWw5rt_rM[/youtube:2k91cvgb]

A Boy Named Seo Jun 05 2018 09:09 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

bmfc1 wrote: Born with 2 left thumbs and he has a great mustache! http://www.sanluisobispo.com/sports/col ... 62419.html 10th ranked C in the draft but the best fielder: https://www.mlb.com/news/top-catcher-to ... -278840372 Holy shit, you were not kidding. Born with 2 left thumbs (the "extra" one was hacked off when he was a kid) and he looks like the product of a mens room romance between Rollie Fingers and the Reds mascot. [tweet]https://twitter.com/calpolystangs/status/971098900701462528[/tweet]

A Boy Named Seo Jun 05 2018 09:13 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

And a little love for 7th pick Kevin Smith. Another big human being (6'5", 200 pounds) he was apparently the Georgia opening day starter, got his tits lit, was eventually moved to the pen and became a lights out closer. If he were right handed, I'd want to trade Jay Bruce for him.

bmfc1 Jun 05 2018 09:55 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

The 8th pick is another big guy: 6'7", 230: Tylor Megill The 9th round pitcher is even larger: 6'7", 265: Bryce Montes de Oca (has been drafted twice but stayed in school).

A Boy Named Seo Jun 05 2018 10:15 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

bmfc1 wrote: The 8th pick is another big guy: 6'7", 230: Tylor Megill The 9th round pitcher is even larger: 6'7", 265: Bryce Montes de Oca (has been drafted twice but stayed in school). Yeah, Mets are drafting a team that should immediately compete to win Royal Rumble. MLB vid on this kid sez he brings it at a hundred. ----> http://m.mlb.com/video/topic/262722544/ ... -id-656755

A Boy Named Seo Jun 05 2018 10:24 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

Mets draft vertically-challenged 5'10" shortstop Manny Rodriguez from U. of Cincinnati (by way of Brooklyn, NY). Sounds like a good baller with some pop in his bat. ---> http://www.newsrecord.org/sports/manny- ... 04fe8.html

Edgy MD Jun 06 2018 12:00 AM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

bmfc1 wrote: The 8th pick is another big guy: 6'7", 230: Tylor Megill The 9th round pitcher is even larger: 6'7", 265: Bryce Montes de Oca (has been drafted twice but stayed in school). Check out this grizzlie: [fimg=600]https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/columbiamissourian.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/4/cd/4cd6c090-5147-11e7-9c64-b3c7a43dbfc6/58bf6d1996991.image.jpg[/fimg] Posing in high school with his fellow college-athletic-program bound classmates. Look at that toothpick of a bat! [fimg=600]https://www.lhsbudget.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/athletes-1003x1024.jpg[/fimg] Bryce Goosemountains!

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 06 2018 12:12 AM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

A Boy Named Seo wrote: Mets draft vertically-challenged 5'10" shortstop Manny Rodriguez from U. of Cincinnati (by way of Brooklyn, NY). Sounds like a good baller with some pop in his bat. ---> http://www.newsrecord.org/sports/manny- ... 04fe8.html But how is his aerial move set? Our Rumble team is almost set, and he's SOL if he isn't bringing some lucha that's pretty f'ing libre.

bmfc1 Jun 06 2018 05:51 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

In Round 19, the Mets drafted the son of the actor who played "Biff" in "Back to the Future"! http://www.fullertontitans.com/sports/m ... tommy_6a68

Edgy MD Jun 06 2018 05:57 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

That's great. We need to draft more buttheads.

seawolf17 Jun 06 2018 06:30 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

bmfc1 wrote: In Round 19, the Mets drafted the son of the actor who played "Biff" in "Back to the Future"! http://www.fullertontitans.com/sports/m ... tommy_6a68 That's actually kind of a neat factoid.

Edgy MD Jun 06 2018 07:13 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

More soldiers for the rumble. Round 13: Christian Tripp, 6'7", 220, fourth-year junior. [fimg=500]https://s3.amazonaws.com/media.tdl/18266_baseball_dallas_preview2_dhp.jpg[/fimg] Round 20: Saul Gonzalez, 6'7", 235, high school senior. [fimg=500]https://i.ytimg.com/vi/f5aqsWim1GA/maxresdefault.jpg[/fimg] I'm thinking I could use a Christian tripp, to Assisi or somewhere.

A Boy Named Seo Jun 06 2018 10:20 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

seawolf17 wrote: In Round 19, the Mets drafted the son of the actor who played "Biff" in "Back to the Future"! http://www.fullertontitans.com/sports/m ... tommy_6a68 That's actually kind of a neat factoid. I'm gonna adopt this slacker.

Benjamin Grimm Jun 07 2018 12:51 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

I had forgotten about this guy: Oregon State pitcher Luke Heimlich goes undrafted for second straight year

Nymr83 Jun 07 2018 02:26 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

I had forgotten about this guy: Oregon State pitcher Luke Heimlich goes undrafted for second straight year Well, you either believe his retroactive claim of innocence or you don't. I have no way of knowing. But if you believe he did it, I don't care how apologetic he is now.

Edgy MD Jun 07 2018 02:30 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

Flying the homeboy flag is 15th rounder and Wagner College Seahawk catcher Phil Capra. Out of North Salem New York, with a classic New York face, Phil hopes his nascent career as a professional baseballer doesn't interfere with the filming of his starring role in The Buddy Hackett Story. [fimg=300]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSuo6YIW4AAsFi0.jpg[/fimg]

A Boy Named Seo Jun 07 2018 03:23 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

Wow, what a mug. Phil's name caught my attention, too. When Rob Morrow, who played Dr. Joel Fleischman, split from my all-time fav TV show "Northern Exposure" after season 5, the producers didn't know what to do and installed another big city doctor to replace him - Phil Capra - a kinda crappy character played ably by Paul Provenza. Not our Phil Capra:

Edgy MD Jun 07 2018 03:35 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

Note the Yankee shirt he's wearing in the road race photo. Damn it, Phil.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 07 2018 05:00 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

Edgy MD wrote: Flying the homeboy flag is 15th rounder and Wagner College Seahawk catcher Phil Capra. Out of North Salem New York, with a classic New York face, Phil hopes his nascent career as a professional baseballer doesn't interfere with the filming of his starring role in The Buddy Hackett Story. Holy crap. The elderly guy in that photo is our neighbor, and the grandfather of one of Lunchpail's best friends. He's in his 80s and still runs the NYC marathon every year. Used to train by carting his grandkids around in a rickshaw!

A Boy Named Seo Jun 07 2018 07:42 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

BTW - top 100 player Luke Heimlich was not drafted again this year. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/06/spor ... again.html What you guys say about this? I'm happy the Mets are not going to be his employer (and to a larger degree, that the rest of MLB teams did not look the other way on this).

seawolf17 Jun 07 2018 07:50 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

I'm glad he didn't get drafted.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 14 2018 10:40 AM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

The draft was over but the Mets couldn't stop. They have signed RHP Andrew Ryan out of UMass-Lowell aka Jack Leathersich U, as a free agent.

Edgy MD Jun 27 2018 03:10 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

I had forgotten about this guy: Oregon State pitcher Luke Heimlich goes undrafted for second straight year Well, you either believe his retroactive claim of innocence or you don't. I have no way of knowing. But if you believe he did it, I don't care how apologetic he is now. Royals GM Dayton Moore openly considering signing Heimlich.

Vic Sage Jun 27 2018 06:08 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

I don't understand the final line of this article: Perhaps his argument – that much of his family, friends and coaches stand behind him; that he has paid his debt; and that he is in fact innocent – will convince an organization to take on the complications of signing him. What debt? If he was innocent, he had no debt to pay. And legal advice that has you pleading guilty to such a charge when you're innocent is malpractice. And i don't believe it for a second. If i was innocent and facing such a charge, nothing on earth could make me plead guilty. The only way you do is if they have overwhelming evidence of the charge, or its a lesser charge than one you think they could convict you of. And child molestation has one of the highest rates of recidivism of any crime. There is just no rationale for giving a convicted child molester a job in MLB.

seawolf17 Jun 28 2018 01:19 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

Vic Sage wrote: There is just no rationale for giving a convicted child molester a job in MLB. Absolutely.

MFS62 Jun 28 2018 08:22 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

If you've been checking the Gulf Coast League box scores and noticed Jarred Kelenick wasn't in the lineup yesterday or today, get your heart started again. He isn't on the DL. He was in New York for an introductory press conference/ photo ops. Later

Edgy MD Jul 09 2018 03:07 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

A Boy Named Seo wrote: In Round 19, the Mets drafted the son of the actor who played "Biff" in "Back to the Future"! http://www.fullertontitans.com/sports/m ... tommy_6a68 That's actually kind of a neat factoid. I'm gonna adopt this slacker. [tweet]https://twitter.com/TomWilsonUSA/status/1004425116590092288[/tweet] Biff Jr. has appeared in one game so far for Brooklyn, pitching two perfect innings.

Edgy MD Jul 09 2018 04:15 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

So, it looks like a mostly successful draft year so far. The vast majority of non-signees came from the butt end of the draft, and while many or most of the signings seemed to offer the players below-slot $$, those players were also drafted lower than MLB had them ranked, for whatever either of those are worth. Also, there are a lot of guys off to encouragingly blistering starts, and those who are misfiring at the start if their careers are mostly, again, guys from the back end. If you give the Mets 40 points for signing a first-rounder and one point for signing a 40th-rounder, they scored 755 out of 820 potential signing points, or 92.07%. RD PICK RANK PLAYER SCHOOL POS B/T CLASS HT WT DOB AGE SIGNED SIGNING BONUS TEAM STATS 1 6 10 [fimg=50]http://www.milb.com/images/silhouette/180x270.jpg[/fimg] Kelenic, Jarred Waukesha West HS (WI) OF L/L HS SR 6'1" 196 7/16/99 18.98 6/15 $4,500,000 GCL 12 G: .413 / .451 / .609 // 1.060 w/1 HR, 9 RBI 2 48 160 [fimg=50]http://www.milb.com/images/silhouette/180x270.jpg[/fimg] Woods-Richardson, Simeon Kempner HS (TX) P R/R HS SR 6'3" 210 9/27/00 17.78 6/15 $1,850,000 GCL — 3 83 — [fimg=50]http://www.milb.com/images/666126/t453/180x270/666126.jpg[/fimg] Cortes, Carlos South Carolina (SC) 2B L/S 4YR SO 5'7" 197 6/30/97 21.02 6/27 $1,000,038 Brooklyn 5 G: .200 / .200 / .200 // .400, w/0 HR, 0 RBI 4 110 139 [fimg=50]http://www.milb.com/images/silhouette/180x270.jpg[/fimg] Hill, Adam South Carolina (SC) P R/R 4YR JR 6'6" 185 3/24/97 21.29 6/25 $507,800 Brooklyn — 5 140 127 [fimg=50]http://www.milb.com/images/663894/t453/180x270/663894.jpg[/fimg] Gilliam, Ryley Clemson (SC) P R/R 4YR JR 5'10" 170 8/11/96 21.91 6/20 $550,000 Brooklyn 1.0 IP: 0.00 ERA w/1 BB, 1 SO 6 170 167 [fimg=50]http://www.milb.com/images/680722/t453/180x270/680722.jpg[/fimg] Meyer, Nick Cal Poly - San Luis Obispo (CA) C R/R 4YR JR 6'1" 200 2/18/97 21.38 6/20 $350,000 Brooklyn 9 G: .343 / .361 / .429 // .720, w/0 HR, 3 RBI 7 200 — [fimg=50]http://www.milb.com/images/663325/t453/180x270/663325.jpg[/fimg] Smith, Kevin Georgia (GA) P R/L 4YR JR 6'5" 200 5/13/97 21.15 6/15 $222,300 Brooklyn 9.0 IP: 0.00 ERA w/1 BB, 14 SO 8 230 — [fimg=50]http://www.milb.com/images/656731/t453/180x270/656731.jpg[/fimg] Megill, Tylor Arizona (AZ) P R/R 4YR SR 6'7" 230 7/28/95 22.95 6/15 $50,000 Brooklyn 1.2 IP: 21.60 ERA w/5 BB, 4 SO 9 260 138 [fimg=50]http://www.milb.com/images/656755/t453/180x270/656755.jpg[/fimg] Montes de Oca, Bryce Missouri (MO) P R/R 4YR SR 6'7" 265 4/23/96 22.21 6/15 $152,100 Brooklyn — 10 290 — [fimg=50]http://www.milb.com/images/681668/t453/180x270/681668.jpg[/fimg] Rodriguez, Manny Cincinnati (OH) SS R/R 4YR SR 5'10" 166 7/4/96 22.01 6/15 $10,000 Brooklyn 15 G: .184 / .259 / .204 // .463, w/0 HR, 4 RBI 11 320 — [fimg=50]http://www.milb.com/images/silhouette/180x270.jpg[/fimg] Parra, Franklin Copiague HS (NY) P L/L HS SR 6'1" 185 9/13/99 18.82 6/25 $150,000 None Yet — 12 350 — [fimg=50]http://www.milb.com/images/680244/t453/180x270/680244.jpg[/fimg] Adolph, Ross Toledo (OH) OF L/R 4YR JR 6'1" 203 12/17/96 21.56 6/15 $125,000 Brooklyn 18 G: .231 / .338 / .385 // .722, w/1 HR, 15 RBI 13 380 — [fimg=50]http://www.milb.com/images/681385/t506/180x270/681385.jpg[/fimg] Tripp, Christian New Mexico (NM) P R/R 4YR JR 6'7" 220 3/13/97 21.32 6/9 $125,000 Kingsport 2.0 IP: 0.00 ERA w/0 BB, 1 SO 14 410 — [fimg=50]http://www.milb.com/images/641886/t506/180x270/641886.jpg[/fimg] Mitchell, Andrew Auburn (AL) P L/L 4YR 5S 6'0" 180 10/23/94 23.71 6/16 $10,000 Kingsport 4.0 IP: 2.25 ERA w/1 BB, 6 SO 15 440 — [fimg=50]http://www.milb.com/images/681877/t506/180x270/681877.jpg[/fimg] Capra, Phil Wagner College (NY) C S/R 4YR JR 5'10" 205 10/1/96 21.77 6/18 $75,000 Kingsport 6 G: .174 / .200 / .304 // .504, w/1 HR, 5 RBI 16 470 — [fimg=50]http://www.milb.com/images/681899/t506/180x270/681899.jpg[/fimg] Woodard, L.A. Middle Tennessee State (TN) SS R/R 4YR JR 5'11" 165 6/3/97 21.10 6/18 $125,000 Kingsport 5 G: .333 / .364 / .476 // .840, w/0 HR, 5 RBI 17 500 — [fimg=50]http://www.milb.com/images/642216/t506/180x270/642216.jpg[/fimg] Winans, Allan Campbell University (NC) P R/R 4YR 5S 6'2" 165 8/10/95 22.91 6/10 $10,000 Kingsport 4.0 IP: 2.25 ERA w/3 BB, 2 SO 18 530 — [fimg=50]http://www.milb.com/images/681907/t453/180x270/681907.jpg[/fimg] Chambers, Chase Tennessee Tech (TN) 1B L/L 4YR SR 6'1" 250 8/22/95 22.88 6/18 $10,000 Brooklyn 20 G: .319 / .410 / .403 // .812, w/1 HR, 10 RBI 19 560 — [fimg=50]http://www.milb.com/images/silhouette/180x270.jpg[/fimg] Wilson, Tommy Cal State Fullerton (CA) P R/R 4YR JR 6'4" 220 5/26/96 22.12 6/20 $90,000 Brooklyn 2.0 IP: 0.00 ERA w/0 BB, 1 SO 20 590 — — Warren, Brooks East Central CC (MS) P L/L JC J2 6'3" 215 3/25/98 20.29 — — — — 21 620 — [fimg=50]http://www.milb.com/images/silhouette/180x270.jpg[/fimg] Hammer, Zachary Alexander Central HS (NC) P R/R HS SR 6'2" 165 7/4/00 18.01 7/5 $285,000 None Yet — 22 650 — [fimg=50]http://www.milb.com/images/silhouette/180x270.jpg[/fimg] Palmer, Jaylen Holy Cross HS (NY) SS R/R HS SR 5'5" 150 7/31/00 17.94 ?/? $200,000 None Yet — 23 680 — [fimg=50]http://www.milb.com/images/silhouette/180x270.jpg[/fimg] Gonzalez, Saul Montverde Academy (FL) P R/R HS SR 6'7" 235 12/28/99 18.53 6/23 $175,000 GCL — 24 710 — [fimg=50]http://www.milb.com/images/663584/t506/180x270/663584.jpg[/fimg] Senger, Hayden Miami University (OH) C R/R 4YR JR 6'1" 210 4/3/97 21.26 6/18 $125,000 Kingsport 8 G: .444 / .516 / .593 // 1.109, w/0 HR, 5 RBI 25 740 — [fimg=50]http://www.milb.com/images/681532/t453/180x270/681532.jpg[/fimg] Miranda, David Florida Atlantic (FL) OF L/L 4YR SR 6'0" 210 3/23/95 23.29 6/15 $10,000 Brooklyn 13 G: .235 / .341 / .294 // .636, w/0 HR, 2 RBI 26 770 — [fimg=50]http://www.milb.com/images/674665/t453/180x270/674665.jpg[/fimg] Sharp, Brian Missouri (MO) 3B L/R 4YR JR 6'2" 205 2/18/97 21.38 6/15 $100,000 Brooklyn 13 G: .200 / .319 / .350 // .669, w/2 HR, 5 RBI 27 800 — [fimg=50]http://www.milb.com/images/silhouette/180x270.jpg[/fimg] Rheams, Zach Texas Tech (TX) LF L/L 4YR SR 6'0" 230 7/5/96 22.01 7/2 $10,000 Kingsport 5 G: .105 / .190 / .105 // .296, w/0 HR, 1 RBI 28 830 — [fimg=50]http://www.milb.com/images/silhouette/180x270.jpg[/fimg] Hickey, Mitch UC San Diego (CA) P R/R 4YR SR 6'0" 184 11/16/95 22.64 6/13 $10,000 Kingsport 2.0 IP: 0.00 ERA w/1 BB, 2 SO 29 860 — [fimg=50]http://www.milb.com/images/silhouette/180x270.jpg[/fimg] Mompierre, Nelson St. Thomas University (FL) C L/R 4YR SR 6'0" 195 9/26/95 22.78 6/18 $10,000 GCL 7 G: .095 / .367 / .143 // .669, w/0 HR, 1 RBI 30 890 — [fimg=50]http://www.milb.com/images/656201/t453/180x270/656201.jpg[/fimg] Avant, Chandler Alabama (AL) 2B R/R 4YR SR 5'11" 170 7/11/95 22.99 6/15 $10,000 Brooklyn 12 G: .256 / .319 / .302 // .621, w/0 HR, 4 RBI 31 920 — [fimg=50]http://www.milb.com/images/silhouette/180x270.jpg[/fimg] Hardy, Brendan Harrison Central HS (MS) P R/R HS SR 6'4" 170 12/15/99 18.56 6/15 ???,??? GCL — 32 950 180 — Mangum, Jake Mississippi State (MS) P S/L 4YR JR 6'1" 185 3/8/96 22.33 — — — — 33 980 — — Picollo, Mike Blue Valley North HS (KS) P R/R HS SR 6'2" 170 9/22/99 18.79 — — — — 34 1,010 — — Kinamon, Duke Stanford (CA) 2B R/R 4YR JR 5'10" 190 9/4/96 21.84 — — — — 35 1,040 — — Mejia, Ian Sahuarita HS (AZ) P R/R HS SR 6'4" 175 1/31/00 18.43 — — — — 36 1,070 — — Clarke, Denzel Everest Academy (ON) OF R/R HS SR 6'3" 197 5/1/00 18.18 — — — — 37 1,100 — — Fascia, Zach Indian Hills CC (IA) C L/R JC J2 6'1" 190 9/15/98 19.81 — — — — 38 1,130 — — Zona, Nick Hanover HS (VA) SS R/R HS SR 6'2" 180 7/9/99 19.00 — — — — 39 1,160 — — Darcy, Kody Kentridge HS (WA) SS R/R HS SR 6'1" 175 6/17/99 19.06 — — — — 40 1,190 — [fimg=50]http://www.milb.com/images/silhouette/180x270.jpg[/fimg] Metoyer, Brian LSU Alexandria (LA) P R/R 4YR JR 6'4" 160 11/13/96 21.65 6/25 $40,000 GCL —

Edgy MD Jul 09 2018 05:08 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

By the way, love that old-timey background on Ryley Gilliam's photo. Keep up the good work, Brooklyn photo editor.

bmfc1 Jul 09 2018 11:42 PM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

Nelson Mompierre and Chandler Avant are great names. Thanks Edgy for matching pictures with the draftees.

Edgy MD Jul 10 2018 02:23 AM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

My favorite is Bryce Montes de Oca. I may have to adopt that big kid.

MFS62 Jul 11 2018 01:30 AM Re: So speaking of the draft ...

Kelenick has been promoted from the GCL to Kingsport. He's playing center field and batting fifth tonight and so far is 1-3 with 2 RBI. EDIT: now 2-4, with a homer and 4 RBI. Later