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IGT 05/18 - Diamondbacks at Mets - Weekend .500

d'Kong76
May 17 2018 04:12 PM

ARI(25-18): Godley (4-2, 4.08)
NYM(20-19): deGrom (3-0, 1.83)

Ceetar
May 17 2018 06:02 PM
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they're 7 over, we're not going to get them to .500

batmagadanleadoff
May 17 2018 07:23 PM
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Ceetar wrote:
they're 7 over, we're not going to get them to .500


He's talking about the Mets. It's the only logical reading. And most likely outcome.

G-Fafif
May 17 2018 08:17 PM
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If the Mets had begun the season 9-18 and then surged to their present 20-19 on an 11-1 tear, would things be universally seen as looking up or would the hypothetical recent success be viewed as an aberration because the Mets got off to the miserable start and the Mets suck and they always suck and LOLMets and all that?

I really enjoyed the walking around town in Mets gear while the winning was endless. I mean in April. Obviously any time the winning is endless. Actually, I enjoy walking around town in Mets gear as a matter of course, but I like the bonus sense of "YEAH!" that generates when winning is prevalent.

Ceetar
May 17 2018 08:27 PM
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batmagadanleadoff wrote:
Ceetar wrote:
they're 7 over, we're not going to get them to .500


He's talking about the Mets. It's the only logical reading. And most likely outcome.



Fangraphs projects the Diamondbacks to go 58-61 the rest of the way and the Mets to go 62-61. Arguably that means the Mets are considered slightly better and hence the 'most likely' outcome is the Mets winning.

Centerfield
May 18 2018 01:47 AM
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G-Fafif wrote:
If the Mets had begun the season 9-18 and then surged to their present 20-19 on an 11-1 tear, would things be universally seen as looking up or would the hypothetical recent success be viewed as an aberration because the Mets got off to the miserable start and the Mets suck and they always suck and LOLMets and all that?

I really enjoyed the walking around town in Mets gear while the winning was endless. I mean in April. Obviously any time the winning is endless. Actually, I enjoy walking around town in Mets gear as a matter of course, but I like the bonus sense of "YEAH!" that generates when winning is prevalent.


Sure. Trends have a lot to do with assessment, and I think fans always weigh recent performance as more relevant. But here, it’s not just the record but the manner of winning and losing.

Even during 11-1 there was talk of “unsustainable” and “playing above their peripherals”. The Mets weren’t getting good starting pitching, they weren’t winning definitely. They were leaning heavily on their bullpen and relying on a hell of a lot of timely hits. Pythagoras told us even then that they would slow down.

Now, during the last month plus, we have seen those fears materialize. Our taxed bullpen has started to leak. The manager mistakes that didn’t burn us in those 12 games are now contributing to losses. Our freakish good luck in close games has run out.

More than anything, our starting pitching looks hopeless. Even if you assume deGrom and Syndergaard stay healthy and pitch well, 60% of our starts will go to Matz, Wheeler and Vargas. That will get us nowhere.

Matz maybe can turn it around. But it’s hard to see any consistency coming from him. Even when he’s good, he’s not likely to us more than 5 innings.

Wheeler and Vargas are awful. Like I said in the other thread, Wheeler is one of the worst pitchers in baseball. And has been for some time. We can hope that maybe he magically gets better. But it’s not likely.

Same with Vargas. You figure Vargas won’t be this bad for long. But he’s a 35 year old journeyman with nothing on his pitches. The idea of him starting a post season game is terrifying.

The potential rotation replacements are two failed starters from 2017. We have no arms in our system that are anywhere close, and no real prospects anywhere other than Alonso to bring in any help.

People have been talking about the similarity to 2015 a lot. Sure. There is always reason to hope. Especially this early. But there are key differences. First, our division was generally terrible in 2015. Our closest competitor won 83 games. The division is much harder this year.

But most importantly, our system is tapped. We have no Michael Fullmer. We won’t be calling up Matz and Syndergaard mid year. Maybe Alonso can be this year’s Conforto? But other than that we got nothing.

Look, I think the offense will pick up. Ces will heal, Conforto will find himself. And I do think Alonso will be in Flushing before the year is out.

But the pitching. Man. Maybe they can all learn a split finger fastball.

bmfc1
May 18 2018 01:57 AM
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Baby Blevins:
[tweet:3fejxrvw]https://twitter.com/jerryblevins/status/997294144899960833[/tweet:3fejxrvw]

cooby
May 18 2018 05:57 PM
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Adorable :)

Ceetar
May 18 2018 05:59 PM
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no one measures babies to the 100th of an inch! Have you tried to measure a baby? It's not easy!

Benjamin Grimm
May 18 2018 06:02 PM
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19.68 inches is 50 centimeters. They must have measured him using the metric system and Jerry and Shirley converted the number to inches.

The baby's initials are ELB. Those are the letters I always saw on the old Montreal Expos caps. No wonder they measured him in centimeters!

Ceetar
May 18 2018 06:06 PM
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yeah but why was the Rapunzel nightgown i bought measured in 'up to 118 cm'

what does that mean? and why is there a size 4 but then it's 5/6?

John Cougar Lunchbucket
May 18 2018 06:11 PM
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Benjamin Grimm wrote:
19.68 inches is 50 centimeters. They must have measured him using the metric system and Jerry and Shirley converted the number to inches.

The baby's initials are ELB. Those are the letters I always saw on the old Montreal Expos caps. No wonder they measured him in centimeters!



That's great

A Boy Named Seo
May 18 2018 06:12 PM
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Benjamin Grimm wrote:
19.68 inches is 50 centimeters. They must have measured him using the metric system and Jerry and Shirley converted the number to inches.

The baby's initials are ELB. Those are the letters I always saw on the old Montreal Expos caps. No wonder they measured him in centimeters!



ELB immediately conjures Emmett L. Brown for me.

41Forever
May 18 2018 06:23 PM
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19.68 inches is 50 centimeters. They must have measured him using the metric system and Jerry and Shirley converted the number to inches.

The baby's initials are ELB. Those are the letters I always saw on the old Montreal Expos caps. No wonder they measured him in centimeters!



Saw this on Uniwatch this week:

cooby
May 18 2018 06:25 PM
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Ceetar wrote:
no one measures babies to the 100th of an inch! Have you tried to measure a baby? It's not easy!



Maybe when they are swaddled in two miles' worth of gauze or whatever, you can

cooby
May 18 2018 06:57 PM
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Anxious to see how DeGrom does tonight after his quite brief start last time.

Ashie62
May 18 2018 09:56 PM
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cooby wrote:
Anxious to see how DeGrom does tonight after his quite brief start last time.


Well? Gonna rain again methinks

d'Kong76
May 18 2018 10:13 PM
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The rain worries are tomorrow, not tonight.

David Peralta, LF
Steven Souza Jr., RF
Jake Lamb, 3B
Paul Goldschmidt, 1B
Daniel Descalso, 2B
Ketel Marte, SS
Alex Avila, C
Jarrod Dyson, CF
Zack Godley, RHP

Brandon Nimmo, LF
Asdrubal Cabrera, 2B
Wilmer Flores, 3B
Jay Bruce, RF
Michael Conforto, CF
Adrian Gonzalez, 1B
Devin Mesoraco, C
Jacob deGrom, RHP
Amed Rosario, SS

Frayed Knot
May 18 2018 11:39 PM
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Despite only allowing one hit that was not a very clean bottom of the 1st by the Arizona pitcher, apparently disproving the old adage about Cleanliness being next to Godleyness.

Edgy MD
May 19 2018 12:08 AM
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Conforto going the other way twice is sweet to behold.

Edgy MD
May 19 2018 12:23 AM
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Bat righthanded if you don't want to re-injure your elbow, Jake.

Edgy MD
May 19 2018 12:35 AM
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10 K's in five innings for deGrom.

24 1/3 consecutive scoreless innings.

Edgy MD
May 19 2018 12:45 AM
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Have you guys all been turned to dust by a big purple cosmic villain or something?

Keith does a great report on Rusty Staub reading Mark Langston's pitches. This booth is far better with three dudes.

Edgy MD
May 19 2018 12:50 AM
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Three hits for Confie. Mets up 3-zip.

Gonzalez doing nothing with Godley's bender tonight. And .... nothing.

Frayed Knot
May 19 2018 01:01 AM
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Lamb's double wrecked deGrom's scoreless innings streak, but I'll take that exchange: run in but 2 outs and bases empty vs 2nd & 3rd w/1 out even though still scoreless.

Meanwhile, Mets have 4 hits and Conforto with 3 of them.

Lefty Specialist
May 19 2018 01:09 AM
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Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 19 2018 01:10 AM

Callaway sending deGrom out for the 7th is a head-scratcher.

But damned if Jake doesn't make it work.

Edgy MD
May 19 2018 01:10 AM
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And yet, a big strikeout of Avila.

Edgy MD
May 19 2018 01:30 AM
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ABOUT TIME GONZALEZ PUT DOWN A BUNT!

Keep doing that until the shift ends.

Edgy MD
May 19 2018 01:32 AM
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Hilarious night for Devin Mesaraco, getting just under three balls in a row.

Edgy MD
May 19 2018 01:36 AM
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Ball four for Reyes looked a LOT like strike three.

Frayed Knot
May 19 2018 01:37 AM
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It was a perfect bunt by Gonzalez and, like the booth said, a good time to do it.
But the thing about him is that, even with the shift on, with his speed the bunt almost has to be perfect.

d'Kong76
May 19 2018 01:40 AM
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Edgy MD wrote:
Ball four for Reyes looked a LOT like strike three.

Ump did his job, didn't buy the thing I can only say twice a year now.

Edgy MD
May 19 2018 01:41 AM
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No, I don't think Gonzalez has to be perfect at all. They gave him, and regularly give him, a huge margin for error. All he has to do is bunt it hard. If it had to be perfect, there would have been a play and he would have just beat it out. But there was no question.

As for Rosario, what should be reviewed is the strategy of taking pitches down the middle and and swinging at balls off the plate.

Fman99
May 19 2018 01:44 AM
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Two to go.

Frayed Knot
May 19 2018 01:46 AM
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Edgy MD wrote:
No, I don't think Gonzalez has to be perfect at all. They gave him, and regularly give him, a huge margin for error. All he has to do is bunt it hard. If it had to be perfect, there would have been a play and he would have just beat it out.


And so if the bunt was a little less perfect by say being a bit further off the line and therefore closer to the fielder he might not have just beaten it out.

d'Kong76
May 19 2018 01:46 AM
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Familia deals a stellar book-a-doodles!

Edgy MD
May 19 2018 01:47 AM
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I don't understand that at all.

But the Mets win.

Edgy MD
May 19 2018 01:49 AM
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[youtube:3s361l55]na_h6giW4oI[/youtube:3s361l55]

d'Kong76
May 19 2018 01:58 AM
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Edgy MD wrote:
I don't understand that at all.

Stellar; ya know, excellent and outstanding. Books!

Ceetar
May 19 2018 02:08 AM
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not tonight boss.

d'Kong76
May 19 2018 02:13 AM
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.500 is/was in the balance this weekend, I really don't know why you
want to bust my hump over it. I'm certainly not rooting for going to, or
under, .500 this weekend.

Edgy MD
May 19 2018 02:18 AM
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d'Kong76 wrote:
Edgy MD wrote:
I don't understand that at all.

Stellar; ya know, excellent and outstanding. Books!

Oops, wasn't responding to you. Sorry.

Great game, great crowd, and Ace Frehely to close it out.

Fman99
May 19 2018 02:26 AM
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This was the best that Familia has looked in 2018, if you ask me.

Lefty Specialist
May 19 2018 02:33 AM
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Fman99 wrote:
This was the best that Familia has looked in 2018, if you ask me.


He had lots of rest.

41Forever
May 19 2018 03:04 AM
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Edgy MD wrote:
[youtube]na_h6giW4oI[/youtube]


A little Ace Frehley makes every thing better!

G-Fafif
May 19 2018 03:33 AM
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Not in the Schaefer points: Jay Bruce targeted a little kid with a glove in the first row of section 102, tossed it one row too far, an adult grabbed it, first showily walked away with it and then turned around and stuck it in the kid's glove. The kid spent the rest of the night pounding the ball into his glove. Good play by all concerned.

DeGrom was beautiful. Thirteen strikeouts and the 10:19 at Woodside.

Ceetar
May 19 2018 12:51 PM
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d'Kong76 wrote:
.500 is/was in the balance this weekend, I really don't know why you
want to bust my hump over it. I'm certainly not rooting for going to, or
under, .500 this weekend.


busting 'woe is me' pessimistic attitude is my job.

d'Kong76
May 19 2018 01:39 PM
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Philly lost, Braves lost, Nats PPD, Mets win = 2 games over .500.
(not that I'm scoreboard/standings watching in mid-May)

d'Kong76
May 19 2018 01:55 PM
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Ceetar wrote:
busting 'woe is me' pessimistic attitude is my job.

I'm a moderate on so many levels. Not naming names, but there are *ahem*
a few more pessimistic posters who frequent the joint than lil' ol' moi.

Benjamin Grimm
May 19 2018 01:58 PM
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Cast your vote!

Benjamin Grimm
May 19 2018 01:58 PM
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Cast your vote!

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 12 2018 01:02 PM
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