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Robinson Cano - PED Suspension

Gwreck May 15 2018 06:17 PM

80 games for [crossout:1nzlv14x]Steroids[/crossout:1nzlv14x] a diuretic which is classified as a masking agent. As per Ken Rosenthal. Thoughts: 1. Probably an issue for the next CBA, but his DL time shouldn’t count against this. 2. When superstars are still getting these suspensions (cf. Ryan Braun), one wonders if the penalties are high enough to remain effective deterrents.

Edgy MD May 15 2018 06:21 PM Re: Robinson Cano - PED Suspension

A broken hand and a PED pop on top of it. That's a dark week in a career.

seawolf17 May 15 2018 06:21 PM Re: Robinson Cano - PED Suspension

Whoa.

d'Kong76 May 15 2018 06:32 PM Re: Robinson Cano - PED Suspension

That'll cost him about $12 mil... no problem, he's still on the hook for a good ~ $1/8-of-a-billion going forward. Dick.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 15 2018 06:53 PM Re: Robinson Cano - PED Suspension

I'm a little dumbfounded by all the shock -- THE SHOCK -- being expressed over this. I mean he was a San Pedro de Marcois middle infielder who was never ranked as a prospect, then became a 39-home run hitter in his 30s. He got away with it till now is all

Benjamin Grimm May 15 2018 06:58 PM Re: Robinson Cano - PED Suspension

When we talk about guys who "got away with it" I'd say Nolan Ryan has to be at the top of the list.

Edgy MD May 15 2018 07:03 PM Re: Robinson Cano - PED Suspension

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I'm a little dumbfounded by all the shock -- THE SHOCK -- being expressed over this. I mean he was a San Pedro de Marcois middle infielder who was never ranked as a prospect, then became a 39-home run hitter in his 30s. He got away with it till now is all And. He. Was. A. Yankee.

Centerfield May 15 2018 07:15 PM Re: Robinson Cano - PED Suspension

Benjamin Grimm wrote: When we talk about guys who "got away with it" I'd say Nolan Ryan has to be at the top of the list. Really? How do you know?

Benjamin Grimm May 15 2018 07:20 PM Re: Robinson Cano - PED Suspension

I remember how everyone was marveling at how he continued to throw 100 MPH at the age of 46 or whatever. Like he's some kind of miracle of nature for which there's no possible pharmaceutical explanation.

41Forever May 15 2018 07:23 PM Re: Robinson Cano - PED Suspension

Edgy MD wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I'm a little dumbfounded by all the shock -- THE SHOCK -- being expressed over this. I mean he was a San Pedro de Marcois middle infielder who was never ranked as a prospect, then became a 39-home run hitter in his 30s. He got away with it till now is all And. He. Was. A. Yankee. Boom! And probably cost him a Cooperstown plaque.

Frayed Knot May 15 2018 08:38 PM Re: Robinson Cano - PED Suspension

MFYs will, of course, reason that just being caught now means Cano never took them as a Yanqui, confusing absence of proof for proof of absence. But then that kind of reasoning has been the story of the entire steroid era regardless of team. Post-Bonds, ARod was considered by some, particularly the Steinbrenner boys, as the 'clean' answer who was going to reestablish a pure HR record and, not coincidentally, make sure it was back in pinstriped hands. After that it was Pujols who is often mentioned as someone known to be clean based on nothing more than the whole absence of proof thing. And then there's Griff Jr. who rode his image to the highest HoF voting mark ever and, like Pujols, certainly deserves the benefit of doubt but no more so than anyone else in my eyes which is to say, innocent until proven otherwise but hardly proven innocent. And now adding to that line comes Cano, just another guy about whom you don't know until you now know. Or, as John Sterling would put it: Robbie Cano, dontcha know!

Centerfield May 15 2018 10:09 PM Re: Robinson Cano - PED Suspension

I try to be careful with that sort of thing. I mean, unless there's some evidence (and more than just "look at the guy, he's huge"), I try to give the benefit of the doubt. It might be partly because I want to believe with all my heart that Piazza was clean.

Frayed Knot May 15 2018 10:22 PM Re: Robinson Cano - PED Suspension

Centerfield wrote: I try to be careful with that sort of thing. I mean, unless there's some evidence (and more than just "look at the guy, he's huge"), I try to give the benefit of the doubt. Sure, so do I. But too many treat the lack of a positive test as 'proof' that the player is cleaner then freshly fallen snow and then find themselves shocked, SHOCKED! that there was PED'ing going on in the back room. I remember Chris Russo screaming 'I WANT NAMES!' back during the time of that first preliminary test MLB issued to its players because, to him, this was going to give us the definitive separation of the clean from the dirty rather than just seeing it as a snapshot in time which, even if 100% accurate, still did nothing to distinguish the one-time users from the hard-core lifers, or the better cheats from those too dumb to pass.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 16 2018 04:42 AM Re: Robinson Cano - PED Suspension

Centerfield wrote: It might be partly because I want to believe with all my heart that Piazza was clean. LOL

Frayed Knot May 16 2018 11:11 AM Re: Robinson Cano - PED Suspension

Gary mentioned during the game last night about how two different columnists almost immediately ran with pieces suggesting that PED suspicions -- based at least in part on Cano's BFF status with the previously nailed ARod & Melky Cabrera -- were a large part of the reason why the Yanx were amenable to letting him walk during his FA year ... so how quickly after the news broke on the suspension do you suppose it took MFY mgm't to dive to their phones and email machines in order to make sure that info got out in public? Because, after all, they have a long history of staying away from 'roiders (except, y'know, when they don't) and they were apparently so concerned about being associated with Cano that they only offered him a seven year 150-ish million dollar deal before (wisely) walking away only after Seattle went all 10/240 crazy.

smg58 May 16 2018 12:10 PM Re: Robinson Cano - PED Suspension

The big concern for the league is (or at least should be) that Cano has probably been doing this for a while, without getting caught. Which raises the possibility that there are others, perhaps more than a few.

Edgy MD May 16 2018 12:26 PM Re: Robinson Cano - PED Suspension

I'm starting to get the notion that Jay Z funneled money to the Mariners to get them to blow away the Yankees and jump start his sideline in representation.

41Forever May 16 2018 12:57 PM Re: Robinson Cano - PED Suspension

Interesting take from Alex Wilson of the Tigers: “I’m not for anybody who cheats,” Wilson said. “I’ll always stand firm behind that. I’ve worked my entire life to get to where I am and to see a guy of that stature go down and get popped, it’s unfortunate for the game. I don’t feel so bad for him, as much as I do for the game, because I know what Robinson Canó the player did for the game for baseball, especially in his time in New York. I mean, he’s been a staple in this game for a long time and to see a guy like that get popped, when his nature ability is far greater than most of ours, it’s pretty sad.” Asked what he’d do in the offseason if he needed medication, Wilson said: “Call our team guys. That’s what everybody’s supposed to do. You have a problem, you call your team and they take care of it. That’s why they’re there. This isn’t a six-month gig for them. They work year-round.” [url]https://www.freep.com/story/sports/mlb/tigers/2018/05/15/detroit-tigers-miguel-cabrera-robinson-cano-suspension/613140002/

Ceetar May 16 2018 01:17 PM Re: Robinson Cano - PED Suspension

fuck Alex Wilson then. Why would Cano have gotten in to the Hall anyway? He's not better than Barry Bonds and he's not a Hall of Famer, so Cano must not be either.