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Two Guys Hear Van Halen for the first time

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 19 2018 11:41 AM

They get it right away Great reminder of how music powers joy [youtube:3oefaqwc]12D7c5lNyLE[/youtube:3oefaqwc]

TransMonk May 19 2018 01:20 PM Re: Two Guys Hear Van Halen for the first time

Very cool.

Edgy MD May 19 2018 03:31 PM Re: Two Guys Hear Van Halen for the first time

The funny thing is that Eddie was pretty spare in his effects. He used a slight delay and he tuned down, mostly because his vocalist had such a low range. But it gives it a grunge darkness (a dozen years before grunge) pushing against the brightness of a dance beat and it's unbeatable.

d'Kong76 May 19 2018 07:15 PM Re: Two Guys Hear Van Halen for the first time

You know you're semi-good lookin' I never knew what the fuck David was saying there, thought it was a lazy mushed together you said amI good looking or something to make the sylables fit. Dumb old white guy schooled on VH lyrics some forty years later.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 20 2018 05:36 AM Re: Two Guys Hear Van Halen for the first time

"... the cool chauvinistic guy, like some Fonzie shit... I have NO idea what I'm talking about." These reaction videos can be so inane. But when you get genuinely geeked kids stumbling onto 20-year-old gems (be they Van Halen or Jungle Brothers or Tower of Power), they're joyous and lovely

d'Kong76 May 20 2018 04:54 PM Re: Two Guys Hear Van Halen for the first time

I was thinking, VH l and ll were two of the most popular albums when I was in high school. I know them both inside and out, much more than anything I learned in 20th Century Novel with Mr. Coughlin. Everyone was into rock 'n roll in school (ridiculously 100% whitey) and if you pulled into the senior parking lot in designer jeans or blasting the soundtrack from Saturday Night Fever you were just looking to get beat up in gym class.

41Forever May 20 2018 09:52 PM Re: Two Guys Hear Van Halen for the first time

Van Halen I > Van Halen II, but I really like “Dance the Night Away.”

d'Kong76 May 20 2018 09:56 PM Re: Two Guys Hear Van Halen for the first time

41Forever wrote: but I really like “Dance the Night Away.” Worst sell-out song on the album, our SIM Score is rapidly declining!

41Forever May 20 2018 11:14 PM Re: Two Guys Hear Van Halen for the first time

d'Kong76 wrote: 41Forever wrote: but I really like “Dance the Night Away.” Worst sell-out song on the album, our SIM Score is rapidly declining! Sorry, man. Here’s where I get in trouble. I like Women and Children First better than VH II. Never got into Van Hagar. Gotta be David Lee.

metirish May 21 2018 12:45 PM Re: Two Guys Hear Van Halen for the first time

That was really fun, and had me looking at that song in a new way...like yeah, that is some cool stuff.

d'Kong76 May 21 2018 01:50 PM Re: Two Guys Hear Van Halen for the first time

41Forever wrote: Here’s where I get in trouble. I like Women and Children First better than VH II. Never got into Van Hagar. Gotta be David Lee. Me too on both counts, SIM Score edges slightly higher. According to VH's Wiki discography WaCF came out in spring of '80 so technically it's also a high school album but I don't think of it that way for some reason.

seawolf17 May 21 2018 01:53 PM Re: Two Guys Hear Van Halen for the first time

A few thoughts. First of all, I'll admit my bias by saying I like Van Hagar better. Second, VHI is the better album, although it's reeeally close. If the best songs on these two records were a single release, it'd be one of the top rock records of all time. Third, it sort of reminds me of the story (apocryphal? maybe) that Run DMC used to rap over "Walk This Way" having never even heard of Aerosmith, showing that good music is both timeless and transcends racial boundaries.

Ceetar May 21 2018 02:00 PM Re: Two Guys Hear Van Halen for the first time

I"m sure I've technically heard them. I've heard of them anyway.

Centerfield May 22 2018 03:48 PM Re: Two Guys Hear Van Halen for the first time

seawolf17 wrote: A few thoughts. First of all, I'll admit my bias by saying I like Van Hagar better. Second, VHI is the better album, although it's reeeally close. If the best songs on these two records were a single release, it'd be one of the top rock records of all time. Third, it sort of reminds me of the story (apocryphal? maybe) that Run DMC used to rap over "Walk This Way" having never even heard of Aerosmith, showing that good music is both timeless and transcends racial boundaries. Van Hagar is an age thing. If you're our age, you appreciate it. If you're older, probably not. I was 11 when 5150 came out. It was 1986. The Mets were the best team in the world. Van Halen was the best band in the world. Great times.

d'Kong76 May 22 2018 03:58 PM Re: Two Guys Hear Van Halen for the first time

Right about the age thing. When this hits you over the head when you're 16 you don't know what hit you. Best. Cover. Ever. [youtube:18cb2wft]OCwigPhpiXs[/youtube:18cb2wft]

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 22 2018 04:05 PM Re: Two Guys Hear Van Halen for the first time

I think these guys get to what made DLR better, in addition to being the "original." He was terrible singer, but made up for it with attitude up the ass and a taste for cheeseball crooners and disco that bled into the delivery, made it "fun." Hagar was basically just a derivative rock singer in a Ronald McDonald suit, seated in the Maserati of his bandmate's talent.

Methead May 22 2018 04:17 PM Re: Two Guys Hear Van Halen for the first time

Centerfield wrote: I was 11 when 5150 came out. Yeah. I love Van Halen and I enjoyed Hagar when I was 13. These days I find him incredibly annoying.

Edgy MD May 22 2018 04:34 PM Re: Two Guys Hear Van Halen for the first time

Is there a place in America where Sammy Hagar still has a high enough profile to be annoying?

Centerfield May 22 2018 04:38 PM Re: Two Guys Hear Van Halen for the first time

Edgy MD wrote: Is there a place in America where Sammy Hagar still has a high enough profile to be annoying? Lol. I was just thinking the same thing. I think the last time I gave Sammy Hagar much thought was maybe 1993.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 22 2018 05:01 PM Re: Two Guys Hear Van Halen for the first time

Sammy's actually pretty funny, a millionaire many times over due to an uncanny ability to keep stepping in dogshit. He got into house-flipping before it was cool and made $$ from that. He invested in a bike store, befriended the bikemaker Gary Fisher, and had a custom bike made (the Red Rocker) that he says was ripped off to become the RockHopper bike that started the whole mountain biking craze. He invested in undeveloped beachfront property in Cabo that eventually became the famous Cabo Wabo resort. He convinced the Van Halen brothers to go in with him initially but when it didn't pay off right away they bailed only to see it eventually take off. He invested in a tequila brand, then sold it for $70 million The Cabo Wabo thing has turned into a chain restaurant that was so succcesful KISS is now trying their own take (Rock'nBrews) He never really became a national solo star but was wildly popular in enough regions (St Louis and Portland, for some reason) to always be able to make $$ as a touring musician He's written 2 books including a cookbook. He's always found a way to latch onto more talented folks who'd take him places even though they lacked the discipline and common sense to sustain themselves (Ronnie Montrose, Eddie Van Halen) All this and he's an utter and complete idiot who believes in UFOs, thinks his career was set in motion by a fortune teller, thinks the Number 9 and the color red have magical powers, and I'm pretty sure voted for Trump and whose music and lyrics for the most part were equally as idiotic as himself

seawolf17 May 22 2018 05:15 PM Re: Two Guys Hear Van Halen for the first time

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: He's written 2 books including a cookbook. Bought his cookbook at a book signing at the Book Revue when it came out, and he was wonderfully engaging. He admitted that he lives a great life. He has plenty of money to play with, so he doesn't need any Van Halen bullshit; that's where The Circle came from, it's just him jamming with his buddies. He cooks, he plays when he wants to, and counts his money. He said his body can't take the rigor of regular touring any more, so he doesn't do it.

d'Kong76 May 22 2018 05:17 PM Re: Two Guys Hear Van Halen for the first time

I kinda knew Sammy was Joe Entrepreneur but not to that extent. Interesting. There was a meme of him here on or on fb that was pretty funny but I don't re- member exactly why. He's in terrific shape for someone his age.

Edgy MD May 22 2018 05:24 PM Re: Two Guys Hear Van Halen for the first time

Here he is talking to Rolling Stone in 2016. Any thoughts on Donald Trump? [Laughs] Oh, boy, that's the touchiest thing I've ever seen in my life because I like the fact that he's shaken up the political world, which needed to be shaken up. Everyone has been so dishonest. The politically correct thing is about to drive me out of this country. You can't do anything or someone's going to sue you. You can't say anything or an organization comes down and blackballs you. You can't talk about any race on the planet and call them by any name that's even close to sounding like you're a racist, even if you're not. You just get dogged and blackballed. I love the fact that Trump is saying, "Fuck all you people" and just beating them up and talking shit and busting their balls. I like that part of it. But I'm not sure that's the man I want as my next president. But maybe we need somebody that radical. Do you see a scenario where you'd vote for him over Hillary Clinton? Oh, fuck, that's a tough one. I've got nothing against Hillary, to be honest with you. And what they're crucifying her for is just total bullshit. It's just like everything else. I mean, come on. She erased some emails or something. I know it's not good for security and all that, but I'm not a political kind of guy. So I'm going, "Hey, you all think the president of the United States — Obama or Reagan or anybody — never fucked up?" They all fucked up! Clinton, look what he did in there! They're human beings. I just wish Trump wouldn't be so tough on Mexicans or the rest of the Hispanic population. From my judgement of living in Mexico and having businesses down there, they are family- and God-loving people. There's bad seeds in every single race on this planet, but the Hispanic population comes to this country because they want to work. They want to better their lives and feed their children. And Trump says they're rapists. That is insanity. That I have a real hard time with because I know different. But I'm sure there are people who have done everything. But if you want to take each race, and someone needs to do a survey and say, "How many did this? How many did this? How many did this?" I doubt if you'd find the Hispanics are the guilty ones on this planet or in this country. Every Hispanic I know that works for me, both in Mexico and in America, are my favorite employees, the hardest-working guys, the hardest-working ladies. They are just good people, and they carry their babies on their shoulder and go to work. They're just good people; they're not abandoning their kids and shit. That bothers me. If Trump would leave Hispanics alone, he could probably be president of the United States. There's my Trump answer. Did I field that one how you wanted? Yeah, that was great. I think that should do it. Thanks so much for doing this. You always come through. Okay. Sell some books for me, will you? And peace and love. Always fun talking to you. "I like him, but I'm not into the racism, but people are way too hung up about racism."

Centerfield May 22 2018 05:57 PM Re: Two Guys Hear Van Halen for the first time

d'Kong76 wrote: Right about the age thing. When this hits you over the head when you're 16 you don't know what hit you. Best. Cover. Ever. [youtube]OCwigPhpiXs[/youtube] That can hit you at any age. Agreed. 41Forever wrote: but I really like “Dance the Night Away.” 41 and I continue to agree on virtually nothing.

Edgy MD May 22 2018 06:24 PM Re: Two Guys Hear Van Halen for the first time

I dig "Dance the Night Away" too, 'cuz dancin' gets me higher than-uh anything else I know. I don't know if I think this because I consider it of a piece with "Dancin' in the Streets," but I think it'd make a great girl group-era go-go-boots-stomping song.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 22 2018 06:46 PM Re: Two Guys Hear Van Halen for the first time

DTNA was another great example of Van Halen's groundbreakingness; no so-called "heavy metal" band ever sang about something as ghey as dancing until they came around. This also was Dave's influence; Sammy couldn't sing about dancing if he tried.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 22 2018 08:48 PM Re: Two Guys Hear Van Halen for the first time

Centerfield wrote: Van Hagar is an age thing. If you're our age, you appreciate it. If you're older, probably not. I was 11 when 5150 came out. It was 1986. The Mets were the best team in the world. Van Halen was the best band in the world. Great times. I'm in the CF/Wolfie demo (if not younger, skewing toward Ceetar). I think DLR Van Halen is the guitar-bite-and-Vegas-carnival-barker tits, and Van Hagar is the sound of Crystal Pepsi.

Ceetar May 22 2018 08:50 PM Re: Two Guys Hear Van Halen for the first time

I still have a Crystal Pepsi in the fridge.

Frayed Knot May 22 2018 09:13 PM Re: Two Guys Hear Van Halen for the first time

Being a bit older than the typical Van Halen groupie, I never disliked the group but had a couple of small quibbles at the time: 1) no, VH fans, Eddie did not invent the electric guitar and there were even people who played it, and played it well, prior to him Not that anyone ever made those actual comments but EVH fans at the time often seemed to be pretty close to those assumptions and that sort of stuff always invites a bit of push-back 2) never was a David Lee Roth fan. I think JCL's description pretty much nails it: [a] terrible singer, but made up for it with attitude up the ass and a taste for cheeseball crooners and disco that bled into the delivery, made it "fun." Fun is one way of looking at it (and at times it certainly was) but 'clownish' also comes to mind and at times I think that clownishness could overwhelm the song. Now that's all great if you're 15 y/o and it's got that guitar behind it but there are also limitations that come with it especially once you're no longer, y'know, 15. When the group did cover versions for instance [PRETTY WOMAN, CALIFORNIA GIRLS] it came off as bad karaoke with DLR as the big-voiced drunk who had enough volume, balls, and ego to pull off good bar crooning but added nothing of consequence other than a pale imitation of the original. And when I'd make these comments about DLR I was always told how wrong I was, how great he was, and that I should go back to listening to whatever. Which was fine, except that at least half those voices couldn't wait to bash Roth once Hagar was the replacement at which point I was like, 'Where were all youse guys back when I was saying that years ago?'

Edgy MD May 22 2018 09:20 PM Re: Two Guys Hear Van Halen for the first time

Frayed Knot wrote: When the group did cover versions for instance [PRETTY WOMAN, CALIFORNIA GIRLS] it came off as bad karaoke with DLR as the big-voiced drunk who had enough volume, balls, and ego to pull off good bar crooning but added nothing of consequence other than a pale imitation of the original.' Slow down, now. VH never did "California Girls." That one was from the DLR solo debut CRAZY FROM THE HEAT, and it pretty much was little more than David doing buffoonish karaoke. Eddie, for what it's worth, hated doing covers.

Frayed Knot May 22 2018 09:45 PM Re: Two Guys Hear Van Halen for the first time

Well, I was right about the buffoonish karaoke part, but then again I thought a lot of his stuff bordered on that. The bufoonishness and that signature (squeak?, hiccup?) in his voice were his two most obvious features and I didn't think either one of them said much other than that he was cheesy clown who stepped into the right band at the right time with a limited act that wore thin pretty quickly.

Centerfield May 22 2018 10:00 PM Re: Two Guys Hear Van Halen for the first time

Frayed Knot wrote: Well, I was right about the buffoonish karaoke part, but then again I thought a lot of his stuff bordered on that. The bufoonishness and that signature (squeak?, hiccup?) in his voice were his two most obvious features and I didn't think either one of them said much other than that he was cheesy clown who stepped into the right band at the right time with a limited act that wore thin pretty quickly. If you needed any more evidence of this, you need look no further than "Just a Gigolo", which is pretty much the definition of buffoonish karaoke. And yes, I felt like it was always there to some extent in his covers, even while he was with VH. I always figured that part of the rift was DLR wanting to clown around more, and EVH wanting to keep this to a minimum. Once they parted ways, DLR was free to clown as much as he wanted (as you can see from his solo work), while Van Halen rid themselves of that vibe entirely. And for the record, I'm not saying that I prefer Hagar to Roth. Both brought a lot to the table, both had their drawbacks. To me, they were two different versions of a band and I loved them both. But there will always be a contingent that lionize the DLR years, and pan the Hagar years as pop drivel or whatever. They wrongly equate the Hagar era with the intro of synthesizers (this is incorrect). I get that some of the Hagar era songs had a top 40 lean. But some of the DLR era songs were bad, jingle-y covers. To each his own.

41Forever May 22 2018 10:18 PM Re: Two Guys Hear Van Halen for the first time

Is there any love for the short-lived Gary Cherone era?

seawolf17 May 22 2018 10:21 PM Re: Two Guys Hear Van Halen for the first time

41Forever wrote: Is there any love for the short-lived Gary Cherone era? I so desperately wanted that record to be good, and whereas there are some gems in there, it's largely unlistenable.

Edgy MD May 22 2018 10:43 PM Re: Two Guys Hear Van Halen for the first time

The band was a perfectly viable stage act with Extreme Dude up front. But they probably should have toured before doing an album so he could find his place in the outfit. With a nu vocalist (I assume living in Eddie's pool house) and Michael Anthony on the outs, there was nobody to give Eddie pushback, and sometimes even the most brilliant among us need pushback. Sometimes especially the most brilliant. When Mets fans came up with the fantastic public theater of harassing Hunter Pence with banners giving him the softest, coldest burns imaginable, LWFS came up with HUNTER PENCE PREFERS GARY CHERONE-ERA VAN HALEN!!!![/bigpurple]

Edgy MD May 22 2018 10:49 PM Re: Two Guys Hear Van Halen for the first time

In my mind, there's a future tour going to unfold in which all three vocalists participate, Michael Anthony returns on bass, and Wolfgang becomes the second guitarist, a natural step in the succession plan in which the band ultimately becomes his.

Frayed Knot May 22 2018 11:14 PM Re: Two Guys Hear Van Halen for the first time

Centerfield wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: Well, I was right about the buffoonish karaoke part, but then again I thought a lot of his stuff bordered on that. The bufoonishness and that signature (squeak?, hiccup?) in his voice were his two most obvious features and I didn't think either one of them said much other than that he was cheesy clown who stepped into the right band at the right time with a limited act that wore thin pretty quickly. If you needed any more evidence of this, you need look no further than "Just a Gigolo", which is pretty much the definition of buffoonish karaoke. And yes, I felt like it was always there to some extent in his covers, even while he was with VH. I was thinking of tacking this onto the list but couldn't remember the specific song whilst I was typing. I suspect DLR was worth it to the band as something to give the female fans something to latch onto in the otherwise male-heavy world of metal(-ish) rock. Sort of like Robert Plant was while the guys all liked either Page or Bonham depending on whether they got off most on guitar or drums. Except, y'know, Roth wasn't a shadow of Plant coming out of an era when EVERY front man tried to be Plant (or Daltrey), even the ones who didn't go all out for the cascading mane of blond curls.

seawolf17 May 23 2018 12:48 AM Re: Two Guys Hear Van Halen for the first time

Edgy MD wrote: The band was a perfectly viable stage act with Extreme Dude up front. But they probably should have toured before doing an album so he could find his place in the outfit. With a nu vocalist (I assume living in Eddie's pool house) and Michael Anthony on the outs, there was nobody to give Eddie pushback, and sometimes even the most brilliant among us need pushback. Sometimes especially the most brilliant. There was a Guitar World article when they first started recording with quotes from Eddie and Gary about how they were soulmates, and how the writing process was so smooth, and that this album was going to be an all-timer. Not so much.

Fman99 May 23 2018 01:18 AM Re: Two Guys Hear Van Halen for the first time

I enjoy and appreciate both Van Halen and Van Hagar. I can go back and listen to all six original DLR era albums as well as the four with Sammy (though I find them progressively less interesting over the course of those four records).

Edgy MD May 23 2018 02:36 AM Re: Two Guys Hear Van Halen for the first time

The thing about Cherone is that he was the Mary Sue of the band. If you went to see them during the Cherone era, you could totally sit there and project that Eddie invited you into the band.

John Cougar Lunchbucket May 23 2018 12:01 PM Re: Two Guys Hear Van Halen for the first time

The problem as I understand it with Cherone wasn't that he sucked so much as Eddie and Alex by that point were total waistoids who likely would have failed with any vocalist. Hagar and Roth had pretty much the same experiences with their returns to the group. Anthony and Hagar today remain very close and are strongly allied against the brothers. Roth had a limited shelf-life from the start; he was really all about youthful karate-kicks and teenage good times, his voice didn;t age well either either and wasn't good to begin with, but I'll say it again there's no VH for anyone to "take over" without him.

41Forever May 23 2018 12:35 PM Re: Two Guys Hear Van Halen for the first time

Then there's the epic 1996 VMA appearance that killed the first attempt at a reunion. [youtube:vcnl30zd]jmy5RG3wXt4[/youtube:vcnl30zd]

seawolf17 May 23 2018 12:59 PM Re: Two Guys Hear Van Halen for the first time

DLR was the first guy I ever heard having referred to as having "LSD," aka "lead singer disease." Then, of course, there's the forgotten Mitch Malloy, who was short-lived between Sammy and Gary but never got any recognition. http://ultimateclassicrock.com/van-halen-mitch-malloy/

HahnSolo May 23 2018 02:28 PM Re: Two Guys Hear Van Halen for the first time

If you don't like "Dance the Night Away" you're close to dead to me.

Ceetar May 23 2018 02:30 PM Re: Two Guys Hear Van Halen for the first time

don't think i know it.

Methead May 23 2018 02:38 PM Re: Two Guys Hear Van Halen for the first time

I know none of you asked for this, but I need to share it anyway. I didn't know this existed until a few days ago. See if you can last a minute before tapping out! [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-VZ2mrpBZs (Apparently after all this time I still have no clue how to embed a youtube link)

41Forever May 23 2018 02:38 PM Re: Two Guys Hear Van Halen for the first time

Ceetar wrote: don't think i know it. [youtube]llfjDUB66Z4[/youtube]

Frayed Knot May 23 2018 06:02 PM Re: Two Guys Hear Van Halen for the first time

Never had a real strong opinion one way or the other of DtNA, but that video just shows everything that folks either loved or hated about Roth (David Lee, not Phillip, just so we don't get our lines crossed here with two simultaneous threads): shirt open; not singing very well; skipping lyrics so he could instead mug for the cameras; overplaying that screech in his voice to no particular effect whatsoever; and just generally saying 'the song is all about me so check me out'. All that makes him either a great front man or an annoying one, your mileage may vary. Come to think of it, the video link Methead posted shows all the same things - minus only a few pounds of hair and plus only a few shirt buttons. [youtube:3kb7sgi0]x-VZ2mrpBZs[/youtube:3kb7sgi0]

Edgy MD May 24 2018 01:14 PM Re: Two Guys Hear Van Halen for the first time

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Sammy's actually pretty funny, a millionaire many times over due to an uncanny ability to keep stepping in dogshit. He got into house-flipping before it was cool and made $$ from that. He invested in a bike store, befriended the bikemaker Gary Fisher, and had a custom bike made (the Red Rocker) that he says was ripped off to become the RockHopper bike that started the whole mountain biking craze. He invested in undeveloped beachfront property in Cabo that eventually became the famous Cabo Wabo resort. He convinced the Van Halen brothers to go in with him initially but when it didn't pay off right away they bailed only to see it eventually take off. He invested in a tequila brand, then sold it for $70 million The Cabo Wabo thing has turned into a chain restaurant that was so succcesful KISS is now trying their own take (Rock'nBrews) He never really became a national solo star but was wildly popular in enough regions (St Louis and Portland, for some reason) to always be able to make $$ as a touring musician He's written 2 books including a cookbook. He's always found a way to latch onto more talented folks who'd take him places even though they lacked the discipline and common sense to sustain themselves (Ronnie Montrose, Eddie Van Halen) All this and he's an utter and complete idiot who believes in UFOs, thinks his career was set in motion by a fortune teller, thinks the Number 9 and the color red have magical powers, and I'm pretty sure voted for Trump and whose music and lyrics for the most part were equally as idiotic as himself Did he ever try his hand as a NASCAR owner?

41Forever May 24 2018 01:21 PM Re: Two Guys Hear Van Halen for the first time

Edgy MD wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Sammy's actually pretty funny, a millionaire many times over due to an uncanny ability to keep stepping in dogshit. He got into house-flipping before it was cool and made $$ from that. He invested in a bike store, befriended the bikemaker Gary Fisher, and had a custom bike made (the Red Rocker) that he says was ripped off to become the RockHopper bike that started the whole mountain biking craze. He invested in undeveloped beachfront property in Cabo that eventually became the famous Cabo Wabo resort. He convinced the Van Halen brothers to go in with him initially but when it didn't pay off right away they bailed only to see it eventually take off. He invested in a tequila brand, then sold it for $70 million The Cabo Wabo thing has turned into a chain restaurant that was so succcesful KISS is now trying their own take (Rock'nBrews) He never really became a national solo star but was wildly popular in enough regions (St Louis and Portland, for some reason) to always be able to make $$ as a touring musician He's written 2 books including a cookbook. He's always found a way to latch onto more talented folks who'd take him places even though they lacked the discipline and common sense to sustain themselves (Ronnie Montrose, Eddie Van Halen) All this and he's an utter and complete idiot who believes in UFOs, thinks his career was set in motion by a fortune teller, thinks the Number 9 and the color red have magical powers, and I'm pretty sure voted for Trump and whose music and lyrics for the most part were equally as idiotic as himself Did he ever try his hand as a NASCAR owner? His inability to drive 55 mph would come in handy there. I like some of Sammy’s solo stuff.

batmagadanleadoff May 24 2018 05:31 PM Re: Two Guys Hear Van Halen for the first time

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: All this and he's an utter and complete idiot who believes in UFOs.... You'd have to pay me to get me to listen to Sammy Hagar, but much, that hurts.

batmagadanleadoff May 24 2018 05:38 PM Re: Two Guys Hear Van Halen for the first time

batmagadanleadoff wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: All this and he's an utter and complete idiot who believes in UFOs.... You'd have to pay me to get me to listen to Sammy Hagar, but much, that hurts. OE -- " ...but ouch that hurts. " (stupid smartphone has a mind of its own)