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The Brilliant Springtime of Victor Zambrano

Edgy MD Mar 27 2006 10:31 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Mar 27 2006 10:37 AM

A foretaste of a summer of love, or a cruel and bitter tease?

Willets Point Mar 27 2006 10:34 AM

Or a European film that sweeps at Cannes.

Rotblatt Mar 27 2006 10:44 AM

I'm gonna go with tease, but I have to admit, my hopes are rising.

metirish Mar 27 2006 11:04 AM

Can he keep his concentration up for a whole game though, he seems to get side-traked a lot during games.

Edgy MD Mar 27 2006 11:21 AM

Talk to Paul LoDuca about that. Carlos Delgado, meanwhile, is hitting .588. And all I can think about is a strange discomfort with seeing him in 21. Strange, as he's a far more suitable inheritor of Cleon's digits than Mark Little or Gerald Williams or probably the two of them and all the rest of the 21s put together.

Nymr83 Mar 27 2006 11:59 AM

Springtime for Victor and Willie Metland is happy and gay!

Frayed Knot Mar 27 2006 12:10 PM

Metland is happy and gay! No, we allowed Piazza to sign elsewhere remember.

Vic Sage Mar 27 2006 12:32 PM

This is a chapter of KILL BILL 3. Or, as it will soon come to be known... "KILL WILLie"

Frayed Knot Mar 27 2006 12:54 PM

It's good that Zambrano (and Heilman & Bannister) are having good springs because Trachsel isn't. He's getting smacked around today by the Dodgers. 8 runs in a few innings including a 3R HR from opposing pitcher Brett Tomko

ScarletKnight41 Mar 27 2006 01:26 PM

Nymr83 wrote: Springtime for Victor and Willie Metland is happy and gay! That works - lol

d'Kong76 Mar 27 2006 01:28 PM

Anyone following Kazmir?

Edgy MD Mar 27 2006 01:39 PM

The judge says I'm not allowed to anymore, but the paper says he's having a tough spring. Player W L ERA G GS CG SHO SV SVO IP H R ER HR HBP BB SO Kazmir 1 1 9.72 4 4 0 0 0 0 8.1 11 10 9 4 1 10 6 Trachselian.

Johnny Dickshot Mar 27 2006 01:56 PM

Gammo suggested recently that his struggles this spring have to do with being "rushed to the majors" FWIW.

Rotblatt Mar 27 2006 01:57 PM

Kazmir's slated to be TB's Opening Day starter, although he's gotten knocked around this Spring: 9.72 ERA in 8.1 innings, with a 2.53 WHIP, and a 6/10 K/BB ratio. He's also given up 4 HR. U-G-L-Y.

Vic Sage Mar 27 2006 02:33 PM

if they want to call a "do over" and trade him back for Zambrano, i'd be okay with that.

d'Kong76 Mar 27 2006 04:19 PM

I can't see Zambrano's name on the internet without thinking of Kazmir. JD: >>>Gammo suggested recently that his struggles this spring have to do with being "rushed to the majors" FWIW.<<< Well there is a small comedic value to that fwiw

Bret Sabermetric Mar 28 2006 12:15 AM

It must be difficult for you to watch games where Zambano faces Zambrano, thinking "Kazmir, Kazmir, .Kazmir, Kazmir, Kazmir, Kazmir, .Kazmir, Kazmir, Kazmir, Kazmir, .Kazmir, Kazmir, Kazmir, Kazmir, .Kazmir, Kazmir, Kazmir, Kazmir, .Kazmir, Kazmir, Kazmir, Kazmir, .Kazmir, Kazmir, Kazmir, Kazmir, .Kazmir, Kazmir, Kazmir, Kazmir, .Kazmir, Kazmir" the whole game.

Gwreck Mar 28 2006 02:11 AM

Given that Victor went 8 innings, with 5 hits, 2 walks and one run they only time that's happened, I doubt it was much of a burden.

Nymr83 Mar 28 2006 09:51 AM

ST stats are meaningless. Kazmir is going to have a good year.

d'Kong76 Mar 28 2006 10:46 AM

I agree that for the most part that ST stats are meaningless, but weren't there an awful lot of Mets fans licking their chops at Keppinger's .350 BA not just a day or two ago and wanting him ordained pope?

Elster88 Mar 28 2006 10:58 AM

Probably the same assclowns who were pining for Cairo and then Anderson all last year.

Edgy MD Mar 28 2006 11:09 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Mar 28 2006 11:25 AM

No reason to speculate. The alleged harlequins of the posterior make their cases throughout the "2nd base - 2006" thread.

Bret Sabermetric Mar 28 2006 11:22 AM

KC wrote: I agree that for the most part that ST stats are meaningless, but weren't there an awful lot of Mets fans licking their chops at Keppinger's .350 BA not just a day or two ago and wanting him ordained pope? When ST stats agree with recent season's stats, it makes the most sense to cite them. It's only when they contradict larger recent samples that their meaning comes into question.

Rotblatt Mar 28 2006 11:33 AM

What Bret said. So Bannister having a good spring training further reinforces the idea that he might be ready for the bigs, and Lima having a crappy spring reinforces the idea that he's done. On the other hand, Wagner having a bad Spring doesn't necessarily mean anything.

d'Kong76 Mar 28 2006 01:05 PM

I didn't really mean too much, except that it's easy for people to say the stats don't mean anything when that works for you and easy to say what are you crazy he's tearing the cover off the ball depending on what works for the discussion du jour. Du jour, that's French for "mean tigers should be kept in cages" ;-)

Rockin' Doc Mar 29 2006 05:30 AM

KC - Du jour, that's French for "mean tigers should be kept in cages" No wonder my grades in French sucked in high school. You want to a laugh, imagine badly butchered French being spoken with a heavy southern accent.