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Mets who have been managers

Yancy Street Gang Mar 31 2006 08:36 AM

I just pulled this from the UMDB. If anyone can spot any omissions, please let me know. Thanks! Rogers Hornsby St. Louis Cardinals 1925 - 1926 Rogers Hornsby New York Giants 1927 Rogers Hornsby Boston Braves 1928 Rogers Hornsby Chicago Cubs 1930 - 1932 Rogers Hornsby St. Louis Browns 1933 - 1937 Casey Stengel Brooklyn Dodgers 1934 - 1936 Casey Stengel Boston Braves 1938 - 1943 Casey Stengel New York Yankees 1949 - 1960 Phil Cavarretta Chicago Cubs 1951 - 1953 Rogers Hornsby Cincinnati Reds 1952 - 1953 Rogers Hornsby St. Louis Browns 1952 Casey Stengel New York Mets 1962 - 1965 Gil Hodges Washington Senators 1963 - 1967 Yogi Berra New York Yankees 1964 Dick Sisler Cincinnati Reds 1964 - 1965 Wes Westrum New York Mets 1965 - 1967 Don Heffner Cincinnati Reds 1966 Salty Parker New York Mets 1967 Gil Hodges New York Mets 1968 - 1971 Don Zimmer San Diego Padres 1972 - 1973 Yogi Berra New York Mets 1972 - 1975 Whitey Herzog Texas Rangers 1973 Jim Marshall Chicago Cubs 1974 - 1976 Whitey Herzog California Angels 1974 Roy McMillan New York Mets 1975 Whitey Herzog Kansas City Royals 1975 - 1979 Joe Frazier New York Mets 1976 - 1977 Don Zimmer Boston Red Sox 1976 - 1980 Joe Torre New York Mets 1977 - 1981 Jeff Torborg Cleveland Indians 1977 - 1979 Ken Boyer St. Louis Cardinals 1978 - 1980 George Bamberger Milwaukee Brewers 1978 - 1980 Roger Craig San Diego Padres 1978 - 1979 Jim Fregosi California Angels 1978 - 1981 Jim Marshall Oakland Athletics 1979 Dallas Green Philadelphia Phillies 1979 - 1981 Whitey Herzog St. Louis Cardinals 1980 - 1990 Jim Frey Kansas City Royals 1980 - 1981 Don Zimmer Texas Rangers 1981 - 1982 Frank Howard San Diego Padres 1981 Joe Torre Atlanta Braves 1982 - 1984 George Bamberger New York Mets 1982 - 1983 Frank Howard New York Mets 1983 Jim Frey Chicago Cubs 1984 - 1986 Chuck Cottier Seattle Mariners 1984 - 1986 Yogi Berra New York Yankees 1984 - 1985 Davey Johnson New York Mets 1984 - 1990 Bobby Valentine Texas Rangers 1985 - 1992 George Bamberger Milwaukee Brewers 1985 - 1986 Roger Craig San Francisco Giants 1985 - 1992 Jim Fregosi Chicago White Sox 1986 - 1988 Larry Bowa San Diego Padres 1987 - 1988 Don Zimmer Chicago Cubs 1988 - 1991 Cookie Rojas California Angels 1988 Dallas Green New York Yankees 1989 Jeff Torborg Chicago White Sox 1989 - 1991 Art Howe Houston Astros 1989 - 1993 Bud Harrelson New York Mets 1990 - 1991 Joe Torre St. Louis Cardinals 1990 - 1995 Mike Cubbage New York Mets 1991 Jim Fregosi Philadelphia Phillies 1991 - 1996 Jeff Torborg New York Mets 1992 - 1993 Davey Johnson Cincinnati Reds 1993 - 1995 Don Baylor Colorado Rockies 1993 - 1998 Dallas Green New York Mets 1993 - 1996 Mike Jorgensen St. Louis Cardinals 1995 Bruce Bochy San Diego Padres 1995 - 2006 Joe Torre New York Yankees 1996 - 2006 Art Howe Oakland Athletics 1996 - 2002 Bobby Valentine New York Mets 1996 - 2002 Ray Knight Cincinnati Reds 1996 - 1997 Davey Johnson Baltimore Orioles 1996 - 1997 Davey Johnson Los Angeles Dodgers 1999 - 2000 Jim Fregosi Toronto Blue Jays 1999 - 2000 Don Baylor Chicago Cubs 2000 - 2002 Larry Bowa Philadelphia Phillies 2001 - 2004 Jeff Torborg Montreal Expos 2001 Jeff Torborg Florida Marlins 2002 - 2003 Clint Hurdle Colorado Rockies 2002 - 2006 Ron Gardenhire Minnesota Twins 2002 - 2006 Art Howe New York Mets 2003 - 2004 John Gibbons Toronto Blue Jays 2003 - 2006 Lee Mazzilli Baltimore Orioles 2004 - 2005 Al Pedrique Arizona Diamondbacks 2004 Sam Perlozzo Baltimore Orioles 2005 - 2006 Willie Randolph New York Mets 2005 - 2006

Bret Sabermetric Mar 31 2006 08:43 AM

Of course you know you're citing only one managing job for those who had several. OE: actually, even more confusingly, you're citing SOME of some managers' multiple jobs while not citing others.

Edgy DC Mar 31 2006 09:05 AM

Backman?

Johnny Dickshot Mar 31 2006 09:12 AM

My suspicion is that list compares favorably to any other team since 62.

Yancy Street Gang Mar 31 2006 09:15 AM

Bret Sabermetric wrote: Of course you know you're citing only one managing job for those who had several. OE: actually, even more confusingly, you're citing SOME of some managers' multiple jobs while not citing others. Am I? Who am I missing? I have it sorted chronologically, not by name.

Bret Sabermetric Mar 31 2006 09:22 AM

My bad. I saw Davey Johnson's Baltimore and LA jobs back to back and thought you had omitted his Cincinnati run.

Edgy DC Mar 31 2006 09:30 AM

Manny Acta, Jose Oquendo (I think), and Matt Galante managed in the World Baseball Classic.

Edgy DC Mar 31 2006 09:33 AM

Got a live one: Eddie Yost.

Edgy DC Apr 10 2006 01:33 PM

What came of this?

MFS62 Apr 10 2006 01:48 PM

Ned Yost, Brewers' skipper was a Met minor leaguer. Later

OlerudOwned Apr 10 2006 01:49 PM

Lots of Yost. Are the two related?

Yancy Street Gang Apr 10 2006 01:52 PM

Edgy DC wrote: What came of this? I didn't follow up on the Eddie Yost thing; my Baseball Encyclopedia doesn't show that he was ever a manager, so I'm not sure what the deal is. I know some sources list guys as managers if they're filling in for a guy who was suspended for a few days. That may have been the deal with Eddie Yost. I did double-check the Hornsby/New York Giant thing, and ended up removing that. (Don't know where it came from, but it didn't look right and it turns out that it wasn't.) I also spotted that I was missing a San Francisco managing gig for Wes Westrum, which I've since added.

MFS62 Apr 10 2006 02:10 PM

So, Yancy, are you going to add Ned Yost to your list in the first post, or will this thread become the list? http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/Y/ned-yost.shtml And, OO, IIRC they are not related. Later

Yancy Street Gang Apr 10 2006 02:13 PM

Ned Yost was never a Met, so I'm not interested in him.

Yancy Street Gang Apr 10 2006 02:23 PM

Here's the current list. As I said above, I removed the Rogers Hornsby/N.Y. Giant listing and added Wes Westrum with the Giants. I also added the short stints in Houston and Milwaukee for Salty Parker and Roy McMillan. As best as I can tell, those two were legitimate "interim" gigs in between permanent managers. I don't know about the Eddie Yost thing. I wish there was a better standard regarding who's a manager and who isn't, but it's surprisingly fuzzy. Rogers Hornsby St. Louis Cardinals 1925 - 1926 Rogers Hornsby Boston Braves 1928 Rogers Hornsby Chicago Cubs 1930 - 1932 Rogers Hornsby St. Louis Browns 1933 - 1937 Casey Stengel Brooklyn Dodgers 1934 - 1936 Casey Stengel Boston Braves 1938 - 1943 Casey Stengel New York Yankees 1949 - 1960 Phil Cavarretta Chicago Cubs 1951 - 1953 Rogers Hornsby St. Louis Browns 1952 Rogers Hornsby Cincinnati Reds 1952 - 1953 Casey Stengel New York Mets 1962 - 1965 Gil Hodges Washington Senators 1963 - 1967 Yogi Berra New York Yankees 1964 Dick Sisler Cincinnati Reds 1964 - 1965 Wes Westrum New York Mets 1965 - 1967 Don Heffner Cincinnati Reds 1966 Salty Parker New York Mets 1967 Gil Hodges New York Mets 1968 - 1971 Don Zimmer San Diego Padres 1972 - 1973 Salty Parker Houston Astros 1972 Roy McMillan Milwaukee Brewers 1972 Yogi Berra New York Mets 1972 - 1975 Whitey Herzog Texas Rangers 1973 Whitey Herzog California Angels 1974 Wes Westrum San Francisco Giants 1974 - 1975 Jim Marshall Chicago Cubs 1974 - 1976 Roy McMillan New York Mets 1975 Whitey Herzog Kansas City Royals 1975 - 1979 Don Zimmer Boston Red Sox 1976 - 1980 Joe Frazier New York Mets 1976 - 1977 Joe Torre New York Mets 1977 - 1981 Jeff Torborg Cleveland Indians 1977 - 1979 Ken Boyer St. Louis Cardinals 1978 - 1980 George Bamberger Milwaukee Brewers 1978 - 1980 Roger Craig San Diego Padres 1978 - 1979 Jim Fregosi California Angels 1978 - 1981 Jim Marshall Oakland Athletics 1979 Dallas Green Philadelphia Phillies 1979 - 1981 Whitey Herzog St. Louis Cardinals 1980 - 1990 Jim Frey Kansas City Royals 1980 - 1981 Frank Howard San Diego Padres 1981 Don Zimmer Texas Rangers 1981 - 1982 Joe Torre Atlanta Braves 1982 - 1984 George Bamberger New York Mets 1982 - 1983 Frank Howard New York Mets 1983 Jim Frey Chicago Cubs 1984 - 1986 Chuck Cottier Seattle Mariners 1984 - 1986 Yogi Berra New York Yankees 1984 - 1985 Davey Johnson New York Mets 1984 - 1990 George Bamberger Milwaukee Brewers 1985 - 1986 Bobby Valentine Texas Rangers 1985 - 1992 Roger Craig San Francisco Giants 1985 - 1992 Jim Fregosi Chicago White Sox 1986 - 1988 Larry Bowa San Diego Padres 1987 - 1988 Cookie Rojas California Angels 1988 Don Zimmer Chicago Cubs 1988 - 1991 Jeff Torborg Chicago White Sox 1989 - 1991 Art Howe Houston Astros 1989 - 1993 Dallas Green New York Yankees 1989 Bud Harrelson New York Mets 1990 - 1991 Joe Torre St. Louis Cardinals 1990 - 1995 Mike Cubbage New York Mets 1991 Jim Fregosi Philadelphia Phillies 1991 - 1996 Jeff Torborg New York Mets 1992 - 1993 Davey Johnson Cincinnati Reds 1993 - 1995 Don Baylor Colorado Rockies 1993 - 1998 Dallas Green New York Mets 1993 - 1996 Mike Jorgensen St. Louis Cardinals 1995 Bruce Bochy San Diego Padres 1995 - 2006 Art Howe Oakland Athletics 1996 - 2002 Ray Knight Cincinnati Reds 1996 - 1997 Bobby Valentine New York Mets 1996 - 2002 Davey Johnson Baltimore Orioles 1996 - 1997 Joe Torre New York Yankees 1996 - 2006 Jim Fregosi Toronto Blue Jays 1999 - 2000 Davey Johnson Los Angeles Dodgers 1999 - 2000 Don Baylor Chicago Cubs 2000 - 2002 Larry Bowa Philadelphia Phillies 2001 - 2004 Jeff Torborg Montreal Expos 2001 Clint Hurdle Colorado Rockies 2002 - 2006 Ron Gardenhire Minnesota Twins 2002 - 2006 Jeff Torborg Florida Marlins 2002 - 2003 Art Howe New York Mets 2003 - 2004 John Gibbons Toronto Blue Jays 2003 - 2006 Lee Mazzilli Baltimore Orioles 2004 - 2005 Al Pedrique Arizona Diamondbacks 2004 Willie Randolph New York Mets 2005 - 2006 Sam Perlozzo Baltimore Orioles 2005 - 2006

Yancy Street Gang Apr 10 2006 02:57 PM

Here's an example of what I'm talking about: Bruce Benedict Scroll down to the part where he was the Mets manager in 1999.

Edgy DC Apr 10 2006 03:01 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 10 2006 05:37 PM

I searched Newspaper archives. Eddie was apparently the interim manager in between Mickey Vernon and Gil Hodges. Shirley Povich, already a legend, reported George Wagner fired Barnie on the spot for insubordination." Asked to explain, Wagner said, "I asked Barnie to resign and he said, 'no'." Four good Met snippets in that article: 1) Jimmy Piersall had worn 37 his whole career before being traded to the Mets, where nobody wore 37 unless his name was Stengel, so he switched to 34. 2) "The man on whom Hodges is leaning most heavily for intelligence on the ability and habits of American League players is coach Eddie Yost, who has moved up as the Number One [caps are Shirley's] managerial aide." 3) "Gil Hodges consulted only two persons for advice before taking the proffered job as manager of the Senators, Mrs. Hodges and Buzz Bavais [sic], general manager of the Los Angeles Dodgers. 'Do what you think best,' said Mrs. Hodges. 'Take it,' said Bavasi" 4) "Not all of New York was cheering for astronaut Gordon Cooper in the ticker-tape parade through lower Manhattan. From a sixth-floor window hung a banner that read, 'Let's go, Mets!'"

Yancy Street Gang Apr 10 2006 03:04 PM

Okay, I'm convinced! Thanks for the research!

TheOldMole Apr 10 2006 05:27 PM

There were also an amazing number of early-day Mets who became coaches -- Johnny Lewis, Galen Cisco, Larry Bearnarth, Al Jackson off the top of my head.

Edgy DC Apr 10 2006 05:40 PM

Well, by saying apparently, it was more inferred from the Povich column. Write to Felicia Yost-Carr and get a real confirmation.

mlbaseballtalk Apr 10 2006 08:32 PM

Yancy Street Gang wrote: ="Edgy DC"]What came of this? I did double-check the Hornsby/New York Giant thing, and ended up removing that. (Don't know where it came from, but it didn't look right and it turns out that it wasn't.) Re-double check Hornsby and the 27 Giants. McGraw in the 20's took an awfull lot of time off due to various health concerns. B-R, and various Total Baseballs have this as being so, crediting several different guys, mostly Bill Terry or Frank Frisch, as taking the reigns as "interms" Steve