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Bands not likely to enter into the BLC

Willets Point Mar 30 2006 11:22 AM

...but deserve some notice. Happy Mondays - not much of a catalogue but you have to appreciate a band that includes a guy named Bez who doesn't sing, doesn't play an instrument, he's just Bez. Crosby, Stills & Nash - sure you think you can distinguish the CSN songs from the CSNY songs but then you get nervous knowing that sharpie is waiting to bust your balls if you make a mistake so you decide its better not to take that risk Simon & Garfunkel - Edgy's provision that a minimum of two members play an instrument eliminates S&G since poor Art only plays his vocal chords. Men Without Hats - one-hit wonders, but the educational aspect of the BLC is important so that great parodies such as The Sturdivant aren't overlooked in the future. Others?

metirish Mar 30 2006 11:28 AM

Kinda wish Nick Cave and Tom Waits could match up against each other.

MFS62 Mar 30 2006 11:36 AM

Charlie Daniels Band - although a group of fewer than twelve that requires that twelve cases of beer be brought to their dressing room before any performance must deserve some sort of recognition. (I forget where I read it) Wham - how exactly does Edgy define "play an instrument"? 10,000 Maniacs - we have enough of those here. Chauncy Rittenhouse and the Saloon Salon Four - can't remember any of their songs, but loved the name. Jefferson Airplane/ Jefferson Starship/ Starship - see CSN/ CSNY problem Maybe I'll think of some others. Later

Edgy DC Mar 30 2006 11:46 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 23 2006 10:30 PM

Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds are totally eligible. We can have Blixa vs. Blixa in a Bad Seeds/Einstruzen Neubauten matchup. If I can, I'm going to b.r.e.a.k..t,h,e,,l,a.w and upload full-length versions of the tracks to one of my sites for any band I want to nominate that I suspect the voting body isn't broadly conversant with. The Thin Lizzy hiccup has been unfortunate. Two types that will get bypassed although this post may help change that: second generation bands, featuring a big shots' lesser, but still fine, band started after his greater band broke up, even if they lasted loneger and had a bigger catalog. Sorry, Big Audio Dynamite. Sorry, Sugar. Bands from non-English speaking countries. So far we've got Britian, Ireland, the United States, and now Jamaica represented. No Kraftwerk, no Los Tigres del Norte. I've got on my desk literally dozens of applications from Russian and Japanese bands protesting our insularity. i scanned and uploaded one really angry one below.

sharpie Mar 30 2006 11:54 AM

Other second gernation bands would include 2 for Eric Clapton: Blind Faith and Derek and the Dominoes.

Edgy DC Mar 30 2006 12:02 PM

Wings are nonetheless on my short list. I'm actually hoping lubitul nominates them.

cooby Mar 30 2006 12:25 PM

Three Dog Night would be one with 10 songs easy, but I doubt anyone will choose them

abogdan Mar 30 2006 01:13 PM

NSync

Willets Point Mar 30 2006 01:50 PM

We have an Australian band too. I suspect a Canadian band or two will find their way in, but Edgy's right that it's tough on the bands non-English speaking countries. Or even Swedish bands that sing in English.

cooby Mar 30 2006 01:51 PM

Willets Point wrote: We have an Australian band too. I suspect a Canadian band or two will find their way in, but Edgy's right that it's tough on the bands non-English speaking countries. Or even Swedish bands that sing in English. Canadian-right Mexican- verdad

Willets Point Apr 14 2006 12:48 PM

Buddy Holly & the Crickets. I was trying to work on a list of 10 songs but it was complicated by the fact that in their short recording career they had contracts with two different record companies. According to the terms of the contracts recordings on one label were credited to Buddy Holly and on the other they were credited to the Crickets, even though the same lineup was on pretty much all the recordings and that they toured as Buddy Holly and the Crickets. So it seems there's too much grey area to attribute 10 great songs to the one band. It's a shame that early Rock n' Roll won't be represented in the BLC. This is because many of the early rock stars were solo artists and even when they started in a band the PR folks at the record company liked to promote an individual with his backup band.

Willets Point Apr 19 2006 01:29 AM

<expecting the answer no> Actually can I get a ruling on Buddy Holly & The Crickets? If I can find 10 top-notch recordings by Buddy Holly, Jerry Allison, Joe B. Mauldin and Niki Sullivan (aka The Crickets) should it matter what name they were released under? After all we're not going to let corporate entities and legalese be the soul definition of "band" are we?</expecting the answer no>

Johnny Dickshot Apr 19 2006 07:35 AM

I think it can be done. According to liner notes on my CD here, the guys known as the Crickets (aka Allison and Mauldin, with or w/o Sullivan) played on That'll be the Day Lookin for Someone to Love Words of Love Not Fade Away Everyday Tell Me How Ready Teddy Listen to Me Oh Boy! It's Too Late Peggy Sue I'm Gonna Love You Too Look at Me Little baby You've Gor Love Maybe Baby Rock Me Baby You're so Square Rave On Fool's Paradise Take Your Time Well... All Right Think it Over Whether or not they were "credited" by the record company. This appears to be most of the stuff BH released on the Coral or Brunswick labels and just that group (since there could be others) could provide a pretty devastating BLC punch. As a side note IMO we shouldn't be too technical on the credited band question unless it's a weird case like Prince or whatever. Because...

Edgy DC Apr 19 2006 09:27 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Apr 23 2006 10:32 PM

I thought about the Crickets also. The biopic suggest that the sides billed to Buddy Holly (alone) were done after he and the band parted ways, and the record company wanted him to stick with the name Crickets as a brand, but he had too much respect for his boys to call a new band the Crickets. So the biopic lied, huh? Wouldn't be the first time. I agree that if actual Buddy Holly and the Crickets songs couldn't get a Crickets label for mere legal reasons, I'll trust your judgment on what qualifies. (As far as early rock 'n' roll, largely the province of solo-billed acts, I had Buddy Holly and the Crickets as well as the Coasters on my short list of potential sponsorees. So go for it.) Another band on my short list has the opposite issue. The last Replacements album was actually a Paul Westerberg solo album with the other guys making small appearances among many other session players. The label rejected the record and demanded it be released as a Replacements record to fulfill their contract. The other guys, fed up with the band, dragged themselves in, cut a few more tracks, and did a brief tour opening for Elvis Costello. It wasn't the first time that a band's last album was musically less a coda for the band than a launching of the lead singer's solo career (Avalon, Synchronicity), but it was never so blatant. I liked the record anyhow, but maybe, if I sponsor the Placemats, I won't use any songs from that last album.

cooby Apr 22 2006 10:11 AM

A band I always loved but I don't think could do well is Badfinger. I can think of three very good songs of theirs right off the top of my head, but my siblings and I never invested in them so my knowledge of them is pretty limited. Still, I stop what I'm doing and listen when they come on the radio

TheOldMole Apr 22 2006 05:30 PM

The Monkees.

Edgy DC Apr 23 2006 10:35 PM

Nominate 'em. No problems, here.

TheOldMole Apr 25 2006 03:39 PM

I'm not sure I know the rules well enough.

sharpie Apr 25 2006 03:43 PM

Just jump in. Look at the list of bands. Challenge one. Put up 10 songs. Enjoy the battle.

Centerfield Apr 27 2006 11:13 AM

The Concrete Blonde. They had a surprise hit with "Joey" in the early 90's but are for the most part, a little-known goth band. The album Bloodletting (which features "Joey") has three or four songs worth listening to.

Willets Point May 24 2006 11:03 AM

The Funk Brothers.

Edgy DC May 24 2006 11:39 AM

The Honeydrippers. Hard to win a ten-song challenge with a five-song catalog.

sharpie May 24 2006 11:48 AM

Same with Blind Faith.

Willets Point May 24 2006 12:09 PM

Ooh, I'll take Blind Faith for a side-challenge vs. the Honeydrippers.

Edgy DC May 24 2006 12:22 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 24 2006 12:35 PM

The subsequent releases get Blind Faith well over the ten song minimum. Honeydrippers remains perpetually defined by a five-song EP. The only subsequent addition to their catalog I can think of is a rockin' Christmas standard they did on Saturday Night Live in 1984. I think the lineup had Jeff Beck, Jimmy Page, and Brian Setzer trading guitar licks. OE: Looking it up, they performed "Santa Claus Is Back in Town." I think the source that claimed Page and Beck were in that lineup was wrong. I also learned that Christopher Guest, Michael McKeon, and Harry Shearer performed as The Folksmen on the show back in Novmeber of 1984.

sharpie May 24 2006 12:33 PM

I don't see any subsequent Blind Faith releases that get them over 10 songs. The original album had 6 songs, then in rerelease it got a couple more plus some alternate versions of those same songs plus some "jams."

Edgy DC May 24 2006 12:36 PM

Well subsequent tracks then.