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Clinical Depression (Split from Guess Who Died in 2018)

metsmarathon Jun 08 2018 06:12 AM

Kate Spade, also of suicide on june 5, seems to have slipped by unmentioned. mental illness. sheesh. every other disease, when we encounter it, we go guns a-blazing to eradicate it from our bodies. this one, though, we try to deny it, try to hide it, try to disavow it to ourselves and our loved ones. we don't want to admit seeing it in others. and we force ourselves and those we love to not seek out answers, to not seek out solutions. we don't want to admit "there's something wrong with me" but in reality, it's no different than diabetes, or gerd, or arthritis, or high blood pressure, or allergies. a part of our body stops working properly, through a combination of internal and external influences, and needs adjustment. needs treatment. and without treatment, management, and active monitoring, we suffer. but as a society, we're willing to help those with diabetes, gerd, arthritis, high blood pressure, and allergies. but help for mental illness isn't as readily available as it should be. and as pervasive a problem as it is, real help is really expensive. and it shouldn't be. in each of these stories about a famous suicide, it's repeated, if you need help get help. we all need help on this one. i wish we all could truly get more help from those with the power to offer it. but instead we'll say that crazy people shoot up schools, and ignore the twin facts that "crazy people" can't shoot up schools if guns are harder to come by, and that "crazy people" are remarkably less crazy and dangerous and scary when properly treated and cared for, and we do nothing about either. we wring our hands over each celebrity suicide. and do nothing. we mourn the loss, sure, but we still do nothing. not as a collective. not as a society. end rant.

Edgy MD Jun 08 2018 07:37 AM Re: Guess Who died in 2018

And she left a middle school child behind. Her sister said she was afraid that seeking help would become public and damage her brand. It's a horrible tragedy even by the shark tank standards of the New York fashion world. Back in March, my functioning was down to about 25%. I felt like the ever-present reservoir of electric black ink in my head had spilled over and flooded my brain, leaking down in front of my eyes. I hadn't been taking care of myself, I wasn't particularly responsive to the outside world. Even simple tasks seemed Herculean. I would stop in the middle of the stairs and stand there for a few moments before having to give myself a pep talk to continue. Not a fun pep talk, either. Like an abusive drill sergeant type of pep talk. Get in gear, fuckface! My wife was tired of being scared by my thousand-mile stare and dragged me to our doctor. He gave me an examination, had me fill out some paperwork where I tried to honestly describe my mindset, reviewed it along with my physical symptoms ... and then he shocked me by giving me a diagnosis of suffering a major depressive episode. My score was frighteningly high. Like 26 out of 30. I was sure my wife had been ashamed and disgusted by what I had become, but starting with that trip, she shocked me at every turn with her loving support. I began a cycle of anti-depressants, took a two-week FMLA break from work, and began some counseling. I'd love to tell you that my life is rainbows and bunnies and I'm killing it at every turn. But it's not, and even if it was ... the Mets ... plus I've lost my favorite dog and my uncle in the meantime. But I've got something of a mojo back, a healthier mindset, I've got my productivity up to 50% and rising, and I'm finding a meaningful way forward. And I'm funny again. The confidence to be funny is a sucky thing to lose. I'm hoping on making enough progress to wean myself off the anti-depressants by fall, but if that doesn't work, that's fine. It's a path I should have started decades ago so I'm gonna have to be patient. I haven't shared this with more than one or two friends who I knew I'd need to lean on, and one or two co-workers. One of those friends, it turns out, had similar issues unbeknownst to me and had been receiving treatment for a long time. During my two-week hiatus, she kept me going by sending me a card every day. Usually a very CRAPPY kitten card, but they were great and I'll love her forever because of it. So, I've kept the circle small on this. Not even my family knows. But I never thought my heart would break for a handbag designer, and it did. If the secrecy of people like me is keeping anybody else suffering in private, fuck it. I'm Edgy MD and I suffer from clinical depression. If there is a light over the horizon for me, there's surely one out there for you.

Benjamin Grimm Jun 08 2018 07:44 AM Re: Guess Who died in 2018

wow... Stay strong and keep at it! I'm sorry to hear that you've had to fight this battle, but I'm glad that you're taking it on squarely.

41Forever Jun 08 2018 08:25 AM Re: Guess Who died in 2018

You have a lot of friends here and people who care, Edgy. Keeping you in my prayers. We need to end the stigma that is associated with these health challenges.

TransMonk Jun 08 2018 08:43 AM Re: Guess Who died in 2018

41Forever wrote: You have a lot of friends here and people who care, Edgy. Yes, yes, yes! You are amazing and we are here for you.

metsmarathon Jun 08 2018 09:24 AM Re: Guess Who died in 2018

[crossout:2lif2lhl]stay strong edgy[/crossout:2lif2lhl]. there's a reason you're our gay icon. sorry. typed that, and immediately hated it. it might imply that having depression made you weak, and that's not my intent in the least. you mightn't imply it either, but some might, and it would degrade the message. keep at your recovery. have strength to carry it out, and see it through, and be willing to follow up on it even if you cannot fully wean yourself of the medication. have the internal fortitude to recognize that getting help makes you stronger, and that there is no shame in getting help when you need it, no matter what the messaging society in general and at times individually tells you. be well.

Centerfield Jun 08 2018 10:14 AM Re: Guess Who died in 2018

Edgy MD wrote: And she left a middle school child behind. Her sister said she was afraid that seeking help would become public and damage her brand. It's a horrible tragedy even by the shark tank standards of the New York fashion world. Back in March, my functioning was down to about 25%. I felt like the ever-present reservoir of electric black ink in my head had spilled over and flooded my brain, leaking down in front of my eyes. I hadn't been taking care of myself, I wasn't particularly responsive to the outside world. Even simple tasks seemed Herculean. I would stop in the middle of the stairs and stand there for a few moments before having to give myself a pep talk to continue. Not a fun pep talk, either. Like an abusive drill sergeant type of pep talk. Get in gear, fuckface! My wife was tired of being scared by my thousand-mile stare and dragged me to our doctor. He gave me an examination, had me fill out some paperwork where I tried to honestly describe my mindset, reviewed it along with my physical symptoms ... and then he shocked me by giving me a diagnosis of suffering a major depressive episode. My score was frighteningly high. Like 26 out of 30. I was sure my wife had been ashamed and disgusted by what I had become, but starting with that trip, she shocked me at every turn with her loving support. I began a cycle of anti-depressants, took a two-week FMLA break from work, and began some counseling. I'd love to tell you that my life is rainbows and bunnies and I'm killing it at every turn. But it's not, and even if it was ... the Mets ... plus I've lost my favorite dog and my uncle in the meantime. But I've got something of a mojo back, a healthier mindset, I've got my productivity up to 50% and rising, and I'm finding a meaningful way forward. And I'm funny again. The confidence to be funny is a sucky thing to lose. I'm hoping on making enough progress to wean myself off the anti-depressants by fall, but if that doesn't work, that's fine. It's a path I should have started decades ago so I'm gonna have to be patient. I haven't shared this with more than one or two friends who I knew I'd need to lean on, and one or two co-workers. One of those friends, it turns out, had similar issues unbeknownst to me and had been receiving treatment for a long time. During my two-week hiatus, she kept me going by sending me a card every day. Usually a very CRAPPY kitten card, but they were great and I'll love her forever because of it. So, I've kept the circle small on this. Not even my family knows. But I never thought my heart would break for a handbag designer, and it did. If the secrecy of people like me is keeping anybody else suffering in private, fuck it. I'm Edgy MD and I suffer from clinical depression. If there is a light over the horizon for me, there's surely one out there for you. Wow Edgy. You know that saying that you never know what battle people may be fighting. It's taken until now, my 40's to realize that there just isn't any place for negativity and mean-spirited words. Working my hardest to remedy that in my own life. I'm Centerfield, and I am trying from this point on in my life to be a force for positivity and kindness.

cooby Jun 08 2018 10:21 AM Re: Guess Who died in 2018

Edgy your candor is inspiring:) I’ve been depressed on and off all my life. I once kept track in the early 2000s and realized I had cried every day for at least 50 days in a row. I cried at Jacobs field for crying out loud( little jokey there) . Then in 2007 my dad died and I finally got help. Been on Celexa ever since. * Btw I just read that Anthony Bourdain hung himself. *happy to say I have never ever been suicidal

Edgy MD Jun 08 2018 10:28 AM Re: Guess Who died in 2018

I'm sorry to hear the pain you've carried. I had never been suicidal, but this March was the first time I can recall staring at a passing, speeding bus and thinking "Gosh, that looks inviting!" I shocked myself, because through all my worst episodes through the decades, I never went THERE, and I realized I couldn't try to hero my way through this anymore. I imagine I still wouldn't have taken the initiative to seek help without my wife, because initiative is one of things this really drains me of. Thank God for her. And thanks to all of you for your support. Cooby, you have mine. Any time.

cooby Jun 08 2018 10:34 AM Re: Guess Who died in 2018

Thank you Edgy. :) And you certainly have mine

Lefty Specialist Jun 08 2018 11:50 AM Re: Guess Who died in 2018

Wow, Edgy. Congratulations on confronting it head-on. My brother-in-law's family had 8 kids and two shot themselves in their 20's, and my B-I-L was diagnosed himself. Makes rooting for laundry seem pretty insignificant. Be strong, and don't worry, the funny seems to come naturally.

A Boy Named Seo Jun 08 2018 01:19 PM Re: Guess Who died in 2018

Damn, good on you for sharing this, Edgy. I couldn't believe you were sharing all this as I was reading it, but yes, you should. We all should. If more people did... hey, I will, too! Depression has followed me around my whole adult life. It twists through both branches of my family tree, sadly lost an uncle to suicide. I've had thoughts of suicide more days than not since I was in my early 20s! I'm 43 next week! I don't know why, it's just the way my stupid brain fires. I've only told a few people this stuff before. My poor girlfriend who lives with me doesn't even know. Anyway, please don't tell me to keep my chin up or anything, it's all the way up. I'm just saying this cause Edgy kinda make me feel like sharing is good. There very much is a stigma to this but the more people say, "Yah, I'm like that, too" hopefully the stigma will lessen. Sick-brained people, stand up! (or stay sitting, you know, whatever ya like). PS - the Mets really should get their shit together if for no other reason than to help all the sad people. Do the right thing, Mets.

Edgy MD Jun 08 2018 02:41 PM Re: Clinical Depression (Split from Guess Who Died in 2018)

Great googily moogily, best wishes to you. If you have any questions, hit that PM button below my post.

dgwphotography Jun 08 2018 04:18 PM Re: Clinical Depression (Split from Guess Who Died in 2018)

Wow Edgy, all the best to you. The events of this week have hit us particularly hard. This past weekend, my father-in-Law made his second attempt at suicide, in the same manner, and basically succeeded, leaving himself with no brain activity. He was taken off life support yesterday, and we’re now playing the waiting game.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 08 2018 04:20 PM Re: Clinical Depression (Split from Guess Who Died in 2018)

Starting to talk about it feels scary at first. But then, at some point in the midst of recapitulating your "damage" for others, it begins to feel weirdly empowering, sorta. Yeah, I've had my episodes, mostly during winters; I've spent more than one, or two, or three long-ago Christmases in a garage while my family slept, considering suicide logistics. Various pharmaceutical solutions (Zoloft, Celexa, and-- during episodes in the ZIP code of what Edgy just went through-- Depakote) have helped intermittently. Talking and cognitive-therapy techniques have helped more.

Edgy MD Jun 08 2018 06:10 PM Re: Clinical Depression (Split from Guess Who Died in 2018)

I'm terribly sorry, dgw. That's awful for you and your family. Best wishes going forward. Let us know if we can help somehow.

Rockin' Doc Jun 08 2018 08:25 PM Re: Clinical Depression (Split from Guess Who Died in 2018)

Edgy, I admire your courage in starting this discussion. I am glad to hear that you are doing better and wish you all the best going forward. Cooby, Seo, and LWFS thank you for sharing. You all have people who care about you and support you here in our cyber-community. DGW, so sorry to hear about your father-in-law. Each of you, and your families, are in my thoughts and prayers.

Fman99 Jun 08 2018 08:39 PM Re: Clinical Depression (Split from Guess Who Died in 2018)

This is some heavy business. I think those of us who have that reputation as the "funny ones," the jokesters of the world, are often covering up some deeper kind of depression. And not just the "for fuck's sake, a double with a guy on 2nd for once this week" kind of depression, but, rather, the kind that lives in your marrow and seeps out towards the real world. I get depressed, at times. I don't feel like I suffer from depression, though my brother does and is on medication for it (many years now, in fact). I try to temper my regular frustrations with his withdrawal from our family by reminding myself that I do not know what his struggle is like. Any more than I know what Anthony Bourdain or Kate Spade or anyone else dealt with. Personally, as someone with kids aged 13 and 10, like both Spade and Bourdain, I can't ever imagine a scenario so desperate that I would remove myself from the world at such a formative period in my childrens' lives. Again, not that I've ever ventured far down that road in my mind. At the same time, I recognize that I can't judge what any one else may decide to do. The brain is a funny thing, that way. Like LWFS, I get it more as a seasonal antsiness, most so in the dreary late winter/eternally late spring of my adopted hometown. And I medicate, mostly with a Seagrams' branded OTC (in moderation, moreso now than in some years past). It is, like so many things, something I strive to improve. I love all you all. And your suffering, and your aches and pains, and what brings us all together, it's not really even about the Mets so much, especially in 2018, because let's face it, Jay Bruce and Jerry Blevins aren't doing anything to pull any Mets fan off the ledge. It's about family. I can't tell you what might work for you. I'm not you, I'm me. I can tell you that time spent with friends, laughing, is great medication. As is music. Find something new to listen to (try my Youtube channel! SHAMELESS PLUG). Get some exercise! It's a miracle, what endorphins come flying into your bloodstream after 30 minutes of exertion. In the interim, well, here I am. I'm here. Here in Syracuse, here on the CPF, here on Twitter and Instagram (but not FB, because, you know, fuck FB). Those of you I've been lucky enough to spend time with in person, well, you know, my door is open. Come by, have a meal and a cocktail and sit down at the Fman table. Watch the game. Lay it on me. I'll make jokes about Suzyn Waldman's scrotum sac till you beg for mercy.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 09 2018 10:04 AM Re: Clinical Depression (Split from Guess Who Died in 2018)

I hadn't seen that until now, dgw. Cripes. That's awful.

MFS62 Jun 09 2018 05:49 PM Re: Clinical Depression (Split from Guess Who Died in 2018)

One of the guys I work with is doing his part in a walk to support suicide prevention. https://www.theovernight.org/index.cfm? ... ntID=26784 Please help. I have. Later

d'Kong76 Jun 11 2018 11:00 AM Re: Clinical Depression (Split from Guess Who Died in 2018)

I've been thinking about this thread all weekend, how can ya not? Kudos, love, support and especially admiration to Edge and the rest of you joining in and sharing here on our semi-public platform. I go to my primary-care doctor 3-4 times a year for blood work and stuff to make sure all the old-man pills I take aren't causing other problems like liver damage, etc. Some time ago they started asking me to fill out a questionaire about anxiety and depression issues. Both my doctor and nurse practioner take time to talk to me about this stuff and I find it very comforting. They're both women, and I'm generally more comfortable about speaking about personal isssues with women. I guess it helps me just to know help is there if things get worse and having that available in my mind seems to help if I ever need it? I dunno. I don't yet take any medication for my issues (yet) but what I personally have found helps with my anxiety issues is being aware of it and when it hits I do a couple of things. I have an anxiety log where I talk to myself about what's going on and what might have set the episode off. When practical, I shut my mind off for five minutes. I know everyone can't do this but I have developed a mental switch of sorts and it works for me. Then I try to watch something funny on you- tube or listen to an uplifting song. Again, these things aren't always practical but 9 times out of 10 it works for me and gives me relief. Good/better mental health to all!

d'Kong76 Jun 11 2018 11:02 AM Re: Clinical Depression (Split from Guess Who Died in 2018)

Oh, and the questionnaires at the doctor's office are similar to these... 3 Minute Anxiety Test 3 Minute Depression Test

Vic Sage Jun 11 2018 11:31 AM Re: Clinical Depression (Split from Guess Who Died in 2018)

i see your depression and raise you one. I have what is called "double depression". It's a chronic, long-term low-mood disorder called dysthymia that is complicated by periodic episodes of major depression, plus i have a soupçon of OCD, just to add a bit of variety. I've had it since I can remember. I didn't start dealing with it until my 30s, because it was effecting my family. I was newly married and what i took for my normal state of mind seemed to my bride to be depressive behavior. I had it checked out... yup, it was DD. I tried psychotherapy for a while but found it useless. Tried another therapist; same thing. When my kids were toddlers, i found my anger (which has been a primary symptom of my depression) was scaring them (and me), and so i went back into therapy and started trying a wide range of medications, and have taken one drug or another over the last 20+ years. Currently, I'm on Wellbutrin (an NRDI-type anti-depressant) and Zoloft (an SSRI-type) and seem to be stable, chemically speaking, for the time being. I see my prescribing psychiatrist on a quarterly basis, but I still have no patience for the "talk cure..." whether Freudian, Cognitive behavioralism, Group, or otherwise. Hey, but if it works for you, that's great! Stick with it!

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cooby Jun 13 2018 06:33 AM Re: Clinical Depression (Split from Guess Who Died in 2018)

I guess we all have our own ways with dealing with it, and that is great! Looking down through KCs questionnaires and for some I answered ‘yes, pre celexa’. My dosage was cut in half a couple of years ago with the plan being to wean off of it, but then my doctor left town. I guess it’s up to me to bring it up with my new doctor. Never felt the need for therapy except reassuring talks with my doctor. I’ve come a long way since that first visit where I couldn’t stop crying long enough to talk to him.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 13 2018 12:33 PM Re: Clinical Depression (Split from Guess Who Died in 2018)

I begin to wonder whether Mets fandom and depression are more than a little positively correlated.

Edgy MD Jun 13 2018 01:49 PM Re: Clinical Depression (Split from Guess Who Died in 2018)

It's been pretty hard to distinguish them this month. That is decidedly so.

metirish Jun 13 2018 05:56 PM Re: Clinical Depression (Split from Guess Who Died in 2018) Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 13 2018 06:17 PM

This is a very empowering thread , my love to you all. As many of you know over Xmas 2006 I sought help , I was in a tailspin and could not understand why I was so down, crying for no apparent reason, not eating, but drinking like crazy....wanted to end it all but instead walked into my bosses office and opened up, my works crisis team was called , I ended up that night at my jobs ( Medical Center ) Behavioral health center , a lovely Indain Dr helped me along with the staff , after 7 days there I was taken to Phelps for 31 days in a MICA unit...it saved my life ...took meds for several years.... Moving along I took up drinking again, and for years this went on.....glad to say that I have been sober for 2 years and just over one month and I'm done with it ...no meds either , gym etc.... obviously I have a lot to live for ......as do you all

cooby Jun 13 2018 06:04 PM Re: Clinical Depression (Split from Guess Who Died in 2018)

Gosh metirish if you do not already realize it, I love you too :) Icant believe it’s been over ten years for you already. I struggle daily with the ole bully hill but at least I’m at home and not harming anyone else. And honestly I am making progress

MFS62 Jun 13 2018 06:58 PM Re: Clinical Depression (Split from Guess Who Died in 2018)

metirish wrote: obviously I have a lot to live for ......as do you all That must be why you now can see the beauty around you and share it with us with your photographs on facebook. Thank you. Later

d'Kong76 Jun 16 2018 08:18 AM Re: Clinical Depression (Split from Guess Who Died in 2018)

My Mom died twenty-five years ago today. She had a difficult life in my early years often working 3-4 jobs in the 60's getting no support from my birth father who left when I was an infant and never turned to the government for any as- sistance. I'm just crying in my coffee, it's too early to crack a cold one, but there are times like today when I realize I'm like 1/3 the adult that my Mom was in many ways. In the hospital, on a respirator she listened to WFAN even in her last week. If you think the 2018 Mets suck, the 1993 Mets were 20-43 today. You can look it up! Wish I could call her or take her out to lunch. I used to joke that I was sure they have cable in heaven so she can watch baseball but I suppose they've upgraded and she's just streaming this god-awful mess of a season.

41Forever Jun 16 2018 10:45 AM Re: Clinical Depression (Split from Guess Who Died in 2018)

MFS62 wrote: metirish wrote: obviously I have a lot to live for ......as do you all That must be why you now can see the beauty around you and share it with us with your photographs on Facebook. Thank you. Later This! I love your photos! So glad there was help for you, and that you were able to tap your inner strength.

cooby Jun 16 2018 08:18 PM Re: Clinical Depression (Split from Guess Who Died in 2018)

d'Kong76 wrote: My Mom died twenty-five years ago today. She had a difficult life in my early years often working 3-4 jobs in the 60's getting no support from my birth father who left when I was an infant and never turned to the government for any as- sistance. I'm just crying in my coffee, it's too early to crack a cold one, but there are times like today when I realize I'm like 1/3 the adult that my Mom was in many ways. In the hospital, on a respirator she listened to WFAN even in her last week. If you think the 2018 Mets suck, the 1993 Mets were 20-43 today. You can look it up! Wish I could call her or take her out to lunch. I used to joke that I was sure they have cable in heaven so she can watch baseball but I suppose they've upgraded and she's just streaming this god-awful mess of a season. Love you Mrs C. :(

cooby Jun 16 2018 08:21 PM Re: Clinical Depression (Split from Guess Who Died in 2018)

Love you Mrs C and in retrospect did we really base our lives on a Mets record In 1993? Sure we cared, but as KCs Mom shows, it’s just entertainment

Zvon Jun 21 2018 07:17 PM Re: Clinical Depression (Split from Guess Who Died in 2018)

I should chime in here, but I'm not ready to.

Edgy MD Jun 21 2018 08:05 PM Re: Clinical Depression (Split from Guess Who Died in 2018)

Yeah, I understand. Just know that you're not alone. And you do the best Mets artwork out there. We don't deserve you.

41Forever Jun 21 2018 08:31 PM Re: Clinical Depression (Split from Guess Who Died in 2018)

Edgy MD wrote: Yeah, I understand. Just know that you're not alone. And you do the best Mets artwork out there. We don't deserve you. Right there with you, friends.

Zvon Jun 22 2018 03:22 PM Re: Clinical Depression (Split from Guess Who Died in 2018)

Edgy MD wrote: Yeah, I understand. Just know that you're not alone. And you do the best Mets artwork out there. We don't deserve you. Oh my....I don't deserve that. But I'll take it. :) I see a lot of Mets & baseball card graphics out there these days and most of it blows me away.

Zvon Jun 30 2018 08:56 PM Re: Clinical Depression (Split from Guess Who Died in 2018)

The Mets might not be the team to follow if you have depression issues. Too bad I could never quit 'em. Well, not forever, anyway. If they trade deGrom I will take an extended leave. Might be good for me. lol.

d'Kong76 Jul 10 2018 08:23 PM Re: Clinical Depression (Split from Guess Who Died in 2018)

I have a a friend who needs a liver. There are at least a dozen things about this that depress me. Maybe tomorrow.

41Forever Jul 10 2018 09:34 PM Re: Clinical Depression (Split from Guess Who Died in 2018)

d'Kong76 wrote: I have a a friend who needs a liver. There are at least a dozen things about this that depress me. Maybe tomorrow. Be strong. Without knowing the exact nature of your friend’s challenge, I can tell you that I have one former colleague who had a transplant and is now doing very, very well. I have another who needed a replacement and the doctors actually took part of his son’s liver and transplanted it and they are both thriving. There are angels among us who perform these miracles. We just think of them as doctors. Keeping your friend in our prayers, and you, too, my friend.

d'Kong76 Jul 11 2018 07:55 AM Re: Clinical Depression (Split from Guess Who Died in 2018)

I know, and thank you. The way I understand it is they don't swap out livers for people who can't stop drinking/pill popping. There's a whole cluster-fuck of details I can't post about here (it wouldn't be right, I probably shouldn't even have gone here) but it's ripping my heart out. There's a very real possibility we're going to get that call one morning that she didn't wake up.

Edgy MD Aug 09 2018 07:19 PM Re: Clinical Depression (Split from Guess Who Died in 2018)

And holy shit. My name is Josh Lewin. I am, among other things, a radio and TV sportscaster, and (spoiler alert!) I have dealt with anxiety and depression for a good part of my life.

metirish Aug 14 2018 06:24 PM Re: Clinical Depression (Split from Guess Who Died in 2018)

Thank you for sharing Josh's story, pretty cool site too.

d'Kong76 Nov 04 2018 07:51 PM Re: Clinical Depression (Split from Guess Who Died in 2018)

We lost Nora on on 10/24, she was beautifully remembered yesterday.

Fman99 Nov 04 2018 08:10 PM Re: Clinical Depression (Split from Guess Who Died in 2018)

d'Kong76 wrote: We lost Nora on on 10/24, she was beautifully remembered yesterday. Sorry, man, condolences to you.

d'Kong76 Nov 05 2018 07:16 AM Re: Clinical Depression (Split from Guess Who Died in 2018)

Thanks

41Forever Nov 05 2018 07:56 AM Re: Clinical Depression (Split from Guess Who Died in 2018)

d'Kong76 wrote: We lost Nora on on 10/24, she was beautifully remembered yesterday. Very, very sorry to hear this.

Rockin' Doc Nov 05 2018 07:30 PM Re: Clinical Depression (Split from Guess Who Died in 2018)

Very sorry to hear of your friends passing, Kase.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Nov 05 2018 07:36 PM Re: Clinical Depression (Split from Guess Who Died in 2018)

I'm sorry, Kase.

d'Kong76 Nov 06 2018 01:17 PM Re: Clinical Depression (Split from Guess Who Died in 2018)

Thanks again to you all. Most of October was a nightmare for her, family and friends in MICU at Yale University Hospital. I start crying every time I talk about it.

Ashie62 Nov 06 2018 04:33 PM Re: Clinical Depression (Split from Guess Who Died in 2018)

I have been in treatment since 1981, slightly before meds that really work were invented. GLTA

Zvon Nov 13 2018 03:49 PM Re: Clinical Depression (Split from Guess Who Died in 2018)

d'Kong76 wrote: We lost Nora on on 10/24, she was beautifully remembered yesterday. My tardy condolences Kase.